Even the respected NPR will air episodes, without first checking the facts, as long as the storyline makes China/Chinese/Chinese owned companies into Bogeyman
"Using new methods and instruments, we can take geologic measurements much deeper within the Earth than before. Now, down to 500 and 1000 kilometers! Methods in current use, by the oil industry among others, provide information for areas down to between 6 and 10 kilometers," explains Professor Thybo.
If the multi-trillion-dollar oil industry can only make geologic measurements to a depth of 6 to 10 kilometers, what make you think a research program that cost 3 million euro can measure down to 500 or even 100 kilometers?
Just what kind of "new methods" and "instruments" are they going to deploy??
He was subjected to abusive treatment by police and a disruption in his life that included a two-year period during which he was unable to use computers or the internet outside of his job, severely limiting opportunities to advance his employment and education.... Matheson was even told by police transporting him to prison that "if you get raped in here, it doesn't count!"
And to understand that this happened, not in Communist China, North Korea, Sudan, or Iran, but in Canada and the United States !!!
What the fuck happens to the concept of "Liberties" and "Freedom" ???
Back in the 1990's, they have sent me threatening emails and letters - without even haven't proven that I have pirated anything
Back then I attended some CAD/CAM seminars offered by Audodesk - and in those events they handed out forms in which we filled in our names, company names, email address, snailmail address and so on
Before I attended those seminars, I got no threatening email nor letters filled with legalese jargons, threatening to take me to court for "using unauthorized software"
I mean, it's a total fuck
I attended those seminars to learn more about CAD/CAM, it does not mean I own any CAD/CAM software, but of course, BSA doesn't care
They just took the name list from the seminar organizers and mass-mailing the threatening letters
After those encounters, I stopped attending any Autocad seminar and in a few years, those threatening letters also stopped coming
BSA's way of handling their customers, even potential customers, is totally ridiculous
By the way my pay has gone up. It's about 2.3 times larger than in 2001, though it requires moving around the country (no settling-down and raising a family). I'm surprised to hear people say their pay has stagnated
It has stagnated. After about 10 years of experience, a typical engineer's pay is frozen
If your income has stagnated after 10 years of experience, the root cause is that you have stagnated your own career
In Engineering, as well as in Computing (and most other fields of Science) every single day there are new developments, new things, new discoveries
If one works in 2012 but still having the knowledge and skill-set of 2002, please tell us how you expect others to pay you salary increases?
I am not that good in Physics, so I'll post my questions here:
I heard that photons don't collide with other photons, that's why two beams can cross path and still behave as though they were travelling without any hindrance
Will Neutrinos behave like photons? Or will Neutrinos collide with other Neutrinos?
This is bullshit. The companies don't want IT people that trained themselves. They want IT people some other company trained AND have X years of experience.
Frankly I am surprised that you have a 5-digit UID and still utter such crap
Companies don't care where the fuck you get the skill
They just want to hire people with a certain skillset, that's all
You are clearly a square peg trying to fit into a round entitlement-filled/. hole. A response such as this, suggesting people take personal responsibility for their career growth, is clearly never going to fly around here. Don't you realize the company/government OWES you free training?
The issue isn't that companies have some sort of moral obligation to train their employees. They are free to train, outsource, hire, whatever.
The point is that it usually ends up more expensive to not invest in your workforce. It's one of those save a penny today. lose a pound tomorrow.
That's for the corporation (the employer) to decide
In the meanwhile, the workers (the employees) can invest in themselves, by learning new skills
But in the world we live in, there are way too many employees who do NOT want the hassle in self-improvement, rather, they just sit there and whine and bitch and complain, about their "cheap companies"
As you can see for yourself how many of those whiners in this thread
*MANY* of the companies I worked for had some sort of company matching with education
Many of you guys are luckier than those of us old-timers
There weren't too many corporations offering "matching contribution" scheme when I started working
I only knew of about 3 people who ever took advantage of it. That is out of the 500 or so different people I have worked with...
That's my point
You see how many of them whiners on this thread?
They whine and whine and whine, but in actual fact, how many of them actually pick their ass off that lazy-boy and start doing something to make themselves better?
Why should any company meet you on the halfway mark?
When you gain the skill, it's yours to keep
When you leave the company you take away those skills with you
I don't know if you do not see the benefit in making yourself better, or if you just do not WANT to see
Making yourself better means you get a better chance of landing a better job, within the SAME company or with other companies
All I see in this thread and many others is that there are just too many whiners in Slashdot - whining about everything while at the same time do nothing to make themselves better
If human of Planet Earth can think of nomad planets being vehicles to cruise the universe, you think sentient aliens from other planets wouldn't think of he same thing?
Even if your numbers were right, the key there is "if the system keeps failing them." It's very rare for someone to have nothing but bad teachers for many years in a row. Pretty much everybody has a great teacher at some point, and many good teachers scattered around
I can only assume that you are from a well-to-do family living in a well-to-do region that has a better-than-average school district that employs many good teachers
For many other people, unfortunately, they are not so lucky
And for the people who do not live in rich countries in Europe / North America (like me), we know what we talk about when we talk about really rotten teachers
Teaching professions in many third/fourth world countries are life-long employment - meaning, the teachers do not have any incentive to teach well, and they will never get fired if they failed their students year after year
If the employees do not want to make themselves better, they can blame anything and everything, including blaming the companies to be cheap
When I started working, as a low rank IT personnel, nobody gave me any help. I had to do everything on my own
In college, they did not teach me a lot more things that I had to learn / relearn when I am out in the working world
For example, in college I was trained in Cobol and Fortran, but in the real world they were using C
I bought/borrowed/stole books; I joined computer clubs; I post questions on echomail (on Fidonet) and also on programming-related newsgroups in Usenet; I took evening/weekend classes.... I did everything to learn the things that I knew I need to climb up the corporate ladder
Did I call my company cheap?
No
Why not?
Because the companies I worked for aren't responsible to train me - their only responsibility is to make as much money to their stake/share holders
It is the responsibility of the workers to train/retrain themselves
Those who call their companies cheap are the one who are too lazy, too incompetent, having no incentive to train/retrain themselves in order to become better
Protip: Artists at the time mixed their own paints.
The more you know!
You do not have to be a "pro" to know that
But that guy's scam is this --- he only tells the world that the "black stuffs" he uncovered from the drilling is "Da Vinci's paint" but there is no proof in what he says
1. Nobody knows whether the "black stuffs" that scam-artist got from the drilling is the same "black stuffs" he sent to lab testing
2. He claimed that he got "black stuffs" from the drilling, but there is no proof that he got any "black stuffs" at all --- it's all what he tells the world, no proof, no nothing
Damn scam-artist has the backing of the mayor - and he is destroying another ancient painting with his hole-drilling exercise
That is complete bullshit. Good students will have a thirst for knowledge no matter how bad their teacher is
Out of 100 students, there might be 2 or 3 students who have the urge (thirst) for knowledge - they are the ones you categorized as "Good Students"
Out of 100 good students, 90% will eventually give up their thirst for knowledge if the system keeps failing them
In other words, out of 300 or so students, there will be ***ONE*** student whose urge for knowledge is so strong that no matter what the system ditches, he or she will keep going against the grains, beating all the odds and eventually triumph them all
Are there other countries that are doing better? If so, what are their approaches?
First, you need to qualify on what "better" mean?
There are countries like Singapore and Japan that produce students who are extremely strong in math and science
At the same time, Japanese and Singaporean students are infamous for their disability of having independent thought --- the Japanese and Singaporean students strive on "hive thinking" mode
If I am not wrong, the one reason we want our children to be educated is to encourage them to think
But... If the only reason in sending a child to school is to enable him to "find a job", then we might as well get rid of all the school and send that kid to work in the factory straight-away !!
Slashdot Mirror
Even the respected NPR will air episodes, without first checking the facts, as long as the storyline makes China/Chinese/Chinese owned companies into Bogeyman
I guess NPR is anti Chinese, after all
http://www.physorg.com/news/2012-03-lifebrowser-personal-microsoft.html
"Searching a person's name made it possible for Horvitz to find the first e-mail that person sent him"
In the article, it is stated that
"Using new methods and instruments, we can take geologic measurements much deeper within the Earth than before. Now, down to 500 and 1000 kilometers! Methods in current use, by the oil industry among others, provide information for areas down to between 6 and 10 kilometers," explains Professor Thybo.
If the multi-trillion-dollar oil industry can only make geologic measurements to a depth of 6 to 10 kilometers, what make you think a research program that cost 3 million euro can measure down to 500 or even 100 kilometers?
Just what kind of "new methods" and "instruments" are they going to deploy??
He was subjected to abusive treatment by police and a disruption in his life that included a two-year period during which he was unable to use computers or the internet outside of his job, severely limiting opportunities to advance his employment and education. ... Matheson was even told by police transporting him to prison that "if you get raped in here, it doesn't count!"
And to understand that this happened, not in Communist China, North Korea, Sudan, or Iran, but in Canada and the United States !!!
What the fuck happens to the concept of "Liberties" and "Freedom" ???
Ever since its inception, BSA is nothing but crap
Back in the 1990's, they have sent me threatening emails and letters - without even haven't proven that I have pirated anything
Back then I attended some CAD/CAM seminars offered by Audodesk - and in those events they handed out forms in which we filled in our names, company names, email address, snailmail address and so on
Before I attended those seminars, I got no threatening email nor letters filled with legalese jargons, threatening to take me to court for "using unauthorized software"
I mean, it's a total fuck
I attended those seminars to learn more about CAD/CAM, it does not mean I own any CAD/CAM software, but of course, BSA doesn't care
They just took the name list from the seminar organizers and mass-mailing the threatening letters
After those encounters, I stopped attending any Autocad seminar and in a few years, those threatening letters also stopped coming
BSA's way of handling their customers, even potential customers, is totally ridiculous
That's a fact everybody already knew
I mean, who wants to hit the sack with a drunk?
By the way my pay has gone up. It's about 2.3 times larger than in 2001, though it requires moving around the country (no settling-down and raising a family). I'm surprised to hear people say their pay has stagnated
It has stagnated. After about 10 years of experience, a typical engineer's pay is frozen
If your income has stagnated after 10 years of experience, the root cause is that you have stagnated your own career
In Engineering, as well as in Computing (and most other fields of Science) every single day there are new developments, new things, new discoveries
If one works in 2012 but still having the knowledge and skill-set of 2002, please tell us how you expect others to pay you salary increases?
I am not that good in Physics, so I'll post my questions here:
I heard that photons don't collide with other photons, that's why two beams can cross path and still behave as though they were travelling without any hindrance
Will Neutrinos behave like photons? Or will Neutrinos collide with other Neutrinos?
This is bullshit. The companies don't want IT people that trained themselves. They want IT people some other company trained AND have X years of experience.
Frankly I am surprised that you have a 5-digit UID and still utter such crap
Companies don't care where the fuck you get the skill
They just want to hire people with a certain skillset, that's all
You are clearly a square peg trying to fit into a round entitlement-filled /. hole. A response such as this, suggesting people take personal responsibility for their career growth, is clearly never going to fly around here. Don't you realize the company/government OWES you free training?
LOL !!
Thanks for the reminder
It all boils down to election posturing
Obama accuses China of not selling the rare earth "at fair price" while in California there is a large rare earth mine still remain closed
The issue isn't that companies have some sort of moral obligation to train their employees. They are free to train, outsource, hire, whatever.
The point is that it usually ends up more expensive to not invest in your workforce. It's one of those save a penny today. lose a pound tomorrow.
That's for the corporation (the employer) to decide
In the meanwhile, the workers (the employees) can invest in themselves, by learning new skills
But in the world we live in, there are way too many employees who do NOT want the hassle in self-improvement, rather, they just sit there and whine and bitch and complain, about their "cheap companies"
As you can see for yourself how many of those whiners in this thread
When countries become slaves to MAFIAA, what makes the citizens of those countries?
Slaves of slaves?
*MANY* of the companies I worked for had some sort of company matching with education
Many of you guys are luckier than those of us old-timers
There weren't too many corporations offering "matching contribution" scheme when I started working
I only knew of about 3 people who ever took advantage of it. That is out of the 500 or so different people I have worked with...
That's my point
You see how many of them whiners on this thread?
They whine and whine and whine, but in actual fact, how many of them actually pick their ass off that lazy-boy and start doing something to make themselves better?
Why should any company meet you on the halfway mark?
When you gain the skill, it's yours to keep
When you leave the company you take away those skills with you
I don't know if you do not see the benefit in making yourself better, or if you just do not WANT to see
Making yourself better means you get a better chance of landing a better job, within the SAME company or with other companies
All I see in this thread and many others is that there are just too many whiners in Slashdot - whining about everything while at the same time do nothing to make themselves better
If human of Planet Earth can think of nomad planets being vehicles to cruise the universe, you think sentient aliens from other planets wouldn't think of he same thing?
Perhaps they already are doing that
Even if your numbers were right, the key there is "if the system keeps failing them." It's very rare for someone to have nothing but bad teachers for many years in a row. Pretty much everybody has a great teacher at some point, and many good teachers scattered around
I can only assume that you are from a well-to-do family living in a well-to-do region that has a better-than-average school district that employs many good teachers
For many other people, unfortunately, they are not so lucky
And for the people who do not live in rich countries in Europe / North America (like me), we know what we talk about when we talk about really rotten teachers
Teaching professions in many third/fourth world countries are life-long employment - meaning, the teachers do not have any incentive to teach well, and they will never get fired if they failed their students year after year
If the employees do not want to make themselves better, they can blame anything and everything, including blaming the companies to be cheap
When I started working, as a low rank IT personnel, nobody gave me any help. I had to do everything on my own
In college, they did not teach me a lot more things that I had to learn / relearn when I am out in the working world
For example, in college I was trained in Cobol and Fortran, but in the real world they were using C
I bought/borrowed/stole books; I joined computer clubs; I post questions on echomail (on Fidonet) and also on programming-related newsgroups in Usenet; I took evening/weekend classes.... I did everything to learn the things that I knew I need to climb up the corporate ladder
Did I call my company cheap?
No
Why not?
Because the companies I worked for aren't responsible to train me - their only responsibility is to make as much money to their stake/share holders
It is the responsibility of the workers to train/retrain themselves
Those who call their companies cheap are the one who are too lazy, too incompetent, having no incentive to train/retrain themselves in order to become better
Protip: Artists at the time mixed their own paints.
The more you know!
You do not have to be a "pro" to know that
But that guy's scam is this --- he only tells the world that the "black stuffs" he uncovered from the drilling is "Da Vinci's paint" but there is no proof in what he says
1. Nobody knows whether the "black stuffs" that scam-artist got from the drilling is the same "black stuffs" he sent to lab testing
2. He claimed that he got "black stuffs" from the drilling, but there is no proof that he got any "black stuffs" at all --- it's all what he tells the world, no proof, no nothing
Damn scam-artist has the backing of the mayor - and he is destroying another ancient painting with his hole-drilling exercise
Drilling holes in the wall, extract some "black stuffs", and then proclaim that those "black stuffs" are "paint that was only used by Da Vinci"
Please !!
That is complete bullshit. Good students will have a thirst for knowledge no matter how bad their teacher is
Out of 100 students, there might be 2 or 3 students who have the urge (thirst) for knowledge - they are the ones you categorized as "Good Students"
Out of 100 good students, 90% will eventually give up their thirst for knowledge if the system keeps failing them
In other words, out of 300 or so students, there will be ***ONE*** student whose urge for knowledge is so strong that no matter what the system ditches, he or she will keep going against the grains, beating all the odds and eventually triumph them all
The number does not look so good, does it?
Are there other countries that are doing better?
If so, what are their approaches?
First, you need to qualify on what "better" mean?
There are countries like Singapore and Japan that produce students who are extremely strong in math and science
At the same time, Japanese and Singaporean students are infamous for their disability of having independent thought --- the Japanese and Singaporean students strive on "hive thinking" mode
I used to teach undergraduates when I was doing my PhD and this is what I saw, from both being a student, and being an instructor
The whole thing about education has failed miserably
In many schools (from Primary School to High School to University), the curriculum was essentially "copied" from each others
Essentially, everybody has been copying curriculum from everybody else
Like in math --- Why in hell they make calculus a mandatory subject for students who are interested in mathematics ?
Students would surely benefit more from learning statistics than they would from calculus
Look around if you don't believe me --- how many universities put more emphasis on statistics than on calculus ?
I work in public education and on a daily basis see parents who have no interest in their children's education
May I change your sentence above to:
"I work in public education and on a daily basis see educators and parents who have no interest in the children's education"
If I am not wrong, the one reason we want our children to be educated is to encourage them to think
But ... If the only reason in sending a child to school is to enable him to "find a job", then we might as well get rid of all the school and send that kid to work in the factory straight-away !!