Microsoft is a convicted monopolist. Before I broke free on my PC I was forced to use Windows to enjoy the right everyone else has: entertainment software. With no other manufacturer being better than any other, I bought an Xbox 360 to Free my PC. My PC now is Linux and my entertainment has been shifted to a different monopoly corner of my living room. Being a monopoly - collectively, no console maker now offers Freedom (sorry PS3 Linux) - I am still *forced* to agree to their terms to enjoy what everyone else enjoys: entertainment. Just because I agreed to the contract does not make it enforcable. Being a monopoly for Microsoft or my asserted "virtual" monopoly for console makers as a group, they are held to higher standards: the onus is on them. I may be wrong with all these statements, I just ask that if you disagree in a reply by devils advocate also argue for what I am saying here.
I can use Network File System to connect to my PC and play movies on my HDTV VLC without having to use - through Xbox 360 OS - what I use now which is a UPnP media server. That is kludgy and doesn't always work right, Linux is mature enough that I know it would work right all the time.
Someday there will be a "standard" console. That console, like a car, will be sued to oblivion if you choose to use another manufacturers oil filter instead of the overpriced "official" one and are told you cannot. At this point in the market it is exploration, there shouldn't be a bazillion different brands of consoles - eventually. Holding each manufactuer to the task when it comes to interoperability will hasten the day the mythical standard console gets here. So we should.
The root of the issue is that over the last two decades or so law has been continually pushed towards corporate favor. By the time I reached the age where I could reasonably add my voice to the debate the issue has become mostly moot. They stole it, not with this device but over the history of devices. I want my devices back, I don't expect to get them back but at least I can show you as well why I think it is wrong.
To get Linux on an Xbox 360 right now you have to modify the hardware. If Microsoft recognized that their customers don't have to drink Microsoft Kool-Aid they would provide a "Boot Other OS" option. The other OS does not connect to XBox Live, does not run Xbox 360 games and is purely there are recognition that *I* own the machine. With the proper Freedom bits built into Microsoft's OS software I do not need to bypass their "protections" or modify MY hardware. When I was running Xbox OS my hardware would not be modified and neither would Microsoft's software. Ball's in their court they just choose not to play because no one is making them.
In effect I am being sentenced for the actions of other people. Really. Just because something is in a contract doesn't make it right, and eventually seen: legal.
Microsoft has mixed so many revenue sources into one communal funding pot that the feedback mechanism of voting with your wallet doesn't apply to them anymore. If you want to get justice out of them they need to be taken to court now. Unfortunately the "justice" department doesn't have enough justice to do so nowadays.
They all suck, Xbox is where I started: the issue needs to be worked through across *all* manufacturers. It's not going to be addressed from them so it means that unfortunately it would take government to step in. Thats not going to happen, so the best we can do is reach an understanding that *they* suck. Which is what I'm doing here. It's mine, a console is only the tip of the iceberg: pretty soon you'll have to sign an EULA to flush your toilet.
If controlling the software on the harddrive is the only way to prevent cheating on Live, how does Windows prevent cheating? It may make it easier to prevent but saying it must be without regard to wider issues is a strawman. I am fully willing to abide my Microsoft's rules when connecting to their service. Banning my console when my other operating system is detected but not active is the boogaboo I'd like to burn down Redmond place over.
You have found out exactly why there is no "Boot Other OS" menu option. They think my XBox 360 is theirs. I think it's mine. A bit of dissonance that needs some attention.
I have to modify my Xbox 360 to tinker. If there was a simple "Boot Other OS" menu option, I wouldn't have to modifiy my Xbox 360. The partitions and who can see what never have to meet, I just want to compile my kernel on my Xbox 360 because I'm a tinkerer and it's mine. If I exercise the right *without* a Boot Other OS menu option then there will be the system update someday that takes away my hardware by bricking it.
Tinkering is always swept under the big piracy rug. If tinkering was addressed separately it wouldn't need to be associated with piracy. Until manufacturers specifically address tinkering then whenever piracy comes up then the tinkerers have to speak up too. Because until tinkering tools are available you have to use piracy tools.
Boot other OS. Simple, segregated systems. Allow me to leverage people much smarter than I in creating software which spreads Freedom. When I want to play XBox 360 (yes 360, should have mentioned that) games then boot in XBox OS. The partitions do not need to see each other. By forcing me to share partitions and software and bricking the console on system updates if I make my own Freedom, isn't that tying the issues?
Where I'm coming from is that it's mine, it's sitting in my living room. I actually can live without Live if it came to that but here's where they get me: someday there will be a system update. This proverbial update will brick my hardware because it assumes that I don't own it. All I'm asking for is a menu option: "Boot other OS" It's simple, and if mandated by government - you know Microsoft won't do it - then there is zero percent chance the proverbial system update will take away my hardware.
See: Here. I want to be able to have a menu option that boots Linux, doesn't have anything to do with their service and when I'm done with my tinker, boot back into Xbox and play my live games without getting banned because I obviously don't own my hardware.
I just want to be able to boot into Linux, have all the fun I want compiling my kernal or what-not *THEN* shutdown Linux, boot normally into XBox and join a live game and *NOT* have my console banned because some nefarious unsupported hack was detected.
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Microsoft is a convicted monopolist. Before I broke free on my PC I was forced to use Windows to enjoy the right everyone else has: entertainment software. With no other manufacturer being better than any other, I bought an Xbox 360 to Free my PC. My PC now is Linux and my entertainment has been shifted to a different monopoly corner of my living room. Being a monopoly - collectively, no console maker now offers Freedom (sorry PS3 Linux) - I am still *forced* to agree to their terms to enjoy what everyone else enjoys: entertainment. Just because I agreed to the contract does not make it enforcable. Being a monopoly for Microsoft or my asserted "virtual" monopoly for console makers as a group, they are held to higher standards: the onus is on them. I may be wrong with all these statements, I just ask that if you disagree in a reply by devils advocate also argue for what I am saying here.
Mod chips exist to add the feature, try buying one legally - or in your rights - in the USA.
Sorry, using VLC...
I can use Network File System to connect to my PC and play movies on my HDTV VLC without having to use - through Xbox 360 OS - what I use now which is a UPnP media server. That is kludgy and doesn't always work right, Linux is mature enough that I know it would work right all the time.
Well. I reject their reality and substitute my own. ;)
Convergence isn't coming fast enough for me.
Someday there will be a "standard" console. That console, like a car, will be sued to oblivion if you choose to use another manufacturers oil filter instead of the overpriced "official" one and are told you cannot. At this point in the market it is exploration, there shouldn't be a bazillion different brands of consoles - eventually. Holding each manufactuer to the task when it comes to interoperability will hasten the day the mythical standard console gets here. So we should.
I want a programmable device to be re-programmable. I don't expect support if I do so I also do not want to be singled out for punishment if I do so.
;) I can add feature X but I somewhere lost the right to do so.
P.s. my sig is the ideal, not the actual.
The root of the issue is that over the last two decades or so law has been continually pushed towards corporate favor. By the time I reached the age where I could reasonably add my voice to the debate the issue has become mostly moot. They stole it, not with this device but over the history of devices. I want my devices back, I don't expect to get them back but at least I can show you as well why I think it is wrong.
To get Linux on an Xbox 360 right now you have to modify the hardware. If Microsoft recognized that their customers don't have to drink Microsoft Kool-Aid they would provide a "Boot Other OS" option. The other OS does not connect to XBox Live, does not run Xbox 360 games and is purely there are recognition that *I* own the machine. With the proper Freedom bits built into Microsoft's OS software I do not need to bypass their "protections" or modify MY hardware. When I was running Xbox OS my hardware would not be modified and neither would Microsoft's software. Ball's in their court they just choose not to play because no one is making them.
XNA doesn't run on Linux which is what I run. I want to get my Open OS onto my Xbox not further buy into closed systems. And buy too.
In effect I am being sentenced for the actions of other people. Really. Just because something is in a contract doesn't make it right, and eventually seen: legal.
Microsoft has mixed so many revenue sources into one communal funding pot that the feedback mechanism of voting with your wallet doesn't apply to them anymore. If you want to get justice out of them they need to be taken to court now. Unfortunately the "justice" department doesn't have enough justice to do so nowadays.
They all suck, Xbox is where I started: the issue needs to be worked through across *all* manufacturers. It's not going to be addressed from them so it means that unfortunately it would take government to step in. Thats not going to happen, so the best we can do is reach an understanding that *they* suck. Which is what I'm doing here. It's mine, a console is only the tip of the iceberg: pretty soon you'll have to sign an EULA to flush your toilet.
If controlling the software on the harddrive is the only way to prevent cheating on Live, how does Windows prevent cheating? It may make it easier to prevent but saying it must be without regard to wider issues is a strawman. I am fully willing to abide my Microsoft's rules when connecting to their service. Banning my console when my other operating system is detected but not active is the boogaboo I'd like to burn down Redmond place over.
Eventually people who understand technology - truly - will be old enough to be judges.
You have found out exactly why there is no "Boot Other OS" menu option. They think my XBox 360 is theirs. I think it's mine. A bit of dissonance that needs some attention.
I have to modify my Xbox 360 to tinker. If there was a simple "Boot Other OS" menu option, I wouldn't have to modifiy my Xbox 360. The partitions and who can see what never have to meet, I just want to compile my kernel on my Xbox 360 because I'm a tinkerer and it's mine. If I exercise the right *without* a Boot Other OS menu option then there will be the system update someday that takes away my hardware by bricking it.
Tinkering is always swept under the big piracy rug. If tinkering was addressed separately it wouldn't need to be associated with piracy. Until manufacturers specifically address tinkering then whenever piracy comes up then the tinkerers have to speak up too. Because until tinkering tools are available you have to use piracy tools.
Then I don't have the right to tinker *checks out back* Yup, misplaced my chip foundry.
Boot other OS. Simple, segregated systems. Allow me to leverage people much smarter than I in creating software which spreads Freedom. When I want to play XBox 360 (yes 360, should have mentioned that) games then boot in XBox OS. The partitions do not need to see each other. By forcing me to share partitions and software and bricking the console on system updates if I make my own Freedom, isn't that tying the issues?
Where I'm coming from is that it's mine, it's sitting in my living room. I actually can live without Live if it came to that but here's where they get me: someday there will be a system update. This proverbial update will brick my hardware because it assumes that I don't own it. All I'm asking for is a menu option: "Boot other OS" It's simple, and if mandated by government - you know Microsoft won't do it - then there is zero percent chance the proverbial system update will take away my hardware.
See: Here. I want to be able to have a menu option that boots Linux, doesn't have anything to do with their service and when I'm done with my tinker, boot back into Xbox and play my live games without getting banned because I obviously don't own my hardware.
I just want to be able to boot into Linux, have all the fun I want compiling my kernal or what-not *THEN* shutdown Linux, boot normally into XBox and join a live game and *NOT* have my console banned because some nefarious unsupported hack was detected.