Conveniently what gets forgotten with "anti-piracy" jackbooting is my right to tinker. I don't give a damn that console makers want to totally lock down "their" systems. It's not "theirs" its mine, I bought it at the store. All this crap preventing me from running Linux on my XBox without screwing up Live (if I wanted it) is bull. Go away, it's mine - you don't like that? In a perfect world it wouldn't be my problem, but hey, we get the best laws money can buy.
You are correct, democracy does not always lead where I, as an individual, want it to go but in this particular instance - right now - I just so happen to be glad overall.
My personal opinion, as a Canadian, is that copyright regulation such as in the USA is insane. With that in mind I am proud of my Government for resisting the tide. There is a balance that needs to be drawn somewhere, I do not believe it is where industry in the USA would like it to be. With this in mind, let the USA go all hysterical: as the pendulum swings around with other parties such as my Government providing some balance the theory, and hope, is that it will eventually settle somewhere sane.
So many people are completely insulated in what they want to believe (i.e. the sites they choose to go to) that the real enemy isn't what is right or wrong in what is happening. The real enemy is getting attention to your cause at the correct time. Anonymous is a major threat to all governments, they have the potential through their own "brand recognition" to bring enough eyeballs to a topic at the exact correct time that enough of them will stick and actually make some, no matter how minor, difference. This is a threat, it must be stopped or corporatism will fail.;)
Spoke too fast, it's not the artists that are corrupt independent or not: it's all the middle men kicking each other back in between. Movies or music and maybe written too.
You are absolutely correct, no matter what the "law" says independent artists right now deserve to be supported because they are not corrupt. With corrupt being relative, I'm sure the RIAA disagree's with my definition of the meaning of "the best laws money can buy." So, now I have to find some independents to support. Know any good sites that of course will have samples of the music to help guide me?
By the way, I refuse to cooperate in the slightest until I get at least one thing: a functioning public domain. Not this pretend one where perhaps after I'm long dead, maybe, just maybe - assuming no more extensions: my grandchildren will get to copy Steamboat Willy. There is no public domain if it doesn't happen in my lifetime: fact. Without my public domain I unilaterally declare the whole of copyright null and void, "they" broke it first so no agreement until "they" come back and deal in good faith. Because apparently politicians do not believe that Citizens need to be consulted for their positions to bargain with at the copyright table. Guess they're just too damn busy stuffing the money into their pockets as fast as possible under the table. It's a Sonny situation. Heh.
Let them continue to shoot themselves in their feet repeatedly. More and more, make it unbearable. I love it when the entertainment moguls are hysterical to the point of nonsense. Because it is only hastening the day when they are completely irrelevent because nobody listens to a stark raving lunatic. So, shout it to the rooftops whenever they are idiots: real people (as in not lawyers and corporates) already know they are full of it. Dig away media, you're almost dead and the hole will be conveniently there for you to keel over into when you're done digging. By the way, do your part: download from your own personal sense of fair-use until an actual rational one is established by a Unicorn in the fairy court. If penaties are ludicrous, join systems such as The Onion Router. make new systems if you can, and lie through your teeth conflating the issues as much as you have to the entire way. It's not my duty to cooperate in the slightest with them.
Thank you, putting it that way is the first step in changing the crappy situation. I *WANT* my artists to get every penny they fricken' deserve. The world unfortunately keeps getting in the way.
We all know and I'll be dancing the day labels are truly history (sadly even the nice ones) and artists can make more money selling directly to their fans who will spend less money getting the music. I think labels are blood-sucking and need to go but I am trying to teach my niece that the artists she loves have to pay their rent (not fill their swimming pools with money like the labels) and they need support. It sucks that its difficult to pull apart the labels and the artists for now.
I know however that in this case it is not *right*. I want to re-download not just for me but for you too because there is no logical reason to be perpetuating this "getting-screwed." We are in the Information Age but industry is still acting like we are in the Industrial Age. It's dumb, times need to be kept up with.
The first step in finding a better bargain is recognizing the true values of things. I think the transition to digital music is being rough because as you say: the industry is being obstinate in dealing with the real values of what they have. I'll have none of that thank you, and I believe that sales indicate that quite a few people intuitively agree - even if the means could be better expressed.
It's a sucky way to learn the lesson. Unfortunately it also in this case does not reinforce the right thing to do. Which was the whole point to begin with.
Heh, Queen Bee. Never thought of it that way. Thank you, now I have a good way to describe the popularity bit towards her that is intuitive to understand!
I don't use iTunes. I *assumed* that you could *obviously* download your entire library as often as you like because while there *is* a cost it is so *negligible* it, in a sane world, should not be a consideration. My assumption was a mistake and led to my encouraging my niece to do the "right" thing and buy her music. Now she is a kid, she doesn't know how to check if she can re-download, she doesn't know how to understand the legalese that even lawyers probably don't read, and she doesn't know how to back up files on her system. She doesn't even know which folder they go to. It all started with that little assumption: It *is* so cheap it damn well should be free to re-download from the business logic of customer satisfaction. Why it is not is idiotic when you can read in other posts in this branch about what Steam lets you do. Now I know all about iTunes, I'm still not a customer and the needle definitely hasn't been moved towards becoming one. This isn't about me, this is about attempting to teach my niece to be a better person and participate in our society in positive ways. I got her to try it, she got burned. Damnit, now I have to get into lessons that she shouldn't have had to try to understand for a few more years. And all because the obvious option of re-downloading is idiotically missing. Yes, writing this post is making me very annoyed.
CD's should *not* be replaced for free, they are a physical item and cost money to make new ones. However retransmitting an aac file does not require new wires to be purchased each time just an amazingly small amount of electricity that would have been used for something else anyway if you didn't use it for that. Now, replacing a physical cd, shipping plus costs incurred only I can warm to. By the way, I loved my Commodore 64 too.
What I should do is introduce her to the equivalent of Open Source music. I don't even know what that is like, I haven't tried any. She's at the age where it's all about what her friends are listening to however. Perhaps if I can get her early with some Creative Commons type stuff some of it will stick.
You have satisfied my confirmation bias, go back to the original post: the labels *can* suck it, perhaps they should try treating their customers better. In the meantime I'll still keep looking for ways to give the artists I love my money. That is the lesson I'm trying to impart to my niece. Labels, they can die however: can't come soon enough - confirmed yet again in my mind.
Thank you for the tip! If I *still* haven't received a response in another 3-4 days that will be the next step: request a refund. I don't actually want a refund, I want my niece to have her music and *this* time I will darn well burn the cdr right away. Ironic that here the cdr also contains a tax to pay for pirated music when you burn your legal collection to it...
You do not understand. I left my godlike powers of observation under the cushion. Of course in a perfect world everything would be automatically backed up to a distributed cloud and no one would ever lose anything! But here, at Unsafe at Any Speed, in the real world: companies only do what they are made to do and what they want to do is rarely right, only profitable.
Someone find somebody who knows computers and rewrite Nader in the context of computing, you'll make a mint.
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Conveniently what gets forgotten with "anti-piracy" jackbooting is my right to tinker. I don't give a damn that console makers want to totally lock down "their" systems. It's not "theirs" its mine, I bought it at the store. All this crap preventing me from running Linux on my XBox without screwing up Live (if I wanted it) is bull. Go away, it's mine - you don't like that? In a perfect world it wouldn't be my problem, but hey, we get the best laws money can buy.
Telescreen. Linky for the google-impaired. Also, it's not Big Brother we have to worry about, it's all these "Little Brothers."
Sometimes you're so indignent you don't get it all out the first time: Telescreens, the screen that looks back at you. Orwell'd.
Because the absolute first thing *I* thought when I heard of this atrocity is: "Orwell would be proud."
You are correct, democracy does not always lead where I, as an individual, want it to go but in this particular instance - right now - I just so happen to be glad overall.
My personal opinion, as a Canadian, is that copyright regulation such as in the USA is insane. With that in mind I am proud of my Government for resisting the tide. There is a balance that needs to be drawn somewhere, I do not believe it is where industry in the USA would like it to be. With this in mind, let the USA go all hysterical: as the pendulum swings around with other parties such as my Government providing some balance the theory, and hope, is that it will eventually settle somewhere sane.
Thank you for pointing out the obvious of where I should go.
So many people are completely insulated in what they want to believe (i.e. the sites they choose to go to) that the real enemy isn't what is right or wrong in what is happening. The real enemy is getting attention to your cause at the correct time. Anonymous is a major threat to all governments, they have the potential through their own "brand recognition" to bring enough eyeballs to a topic at the exact correct time that enough of them will stick and actually make some, no matter how minor, difference. This is a threat, it must be stopped or corporatism will fail. ;)
Spoke too fast, it's not the artists that are corrupt independent or not: it's all the middle men kicking each other back in between. Movies or music and maybe written too.
You are absolutely correct, no matter what the "law" says independent artists right now deserve to be supported because they are not corrupt. With corrupt being relative, I'm sure the RIAA disagree's with my definition of the meaning of "the best laws money can buy." So, now I have to find some independents to support. Know any good sites that of course will have samples of the music to help guide me?
By the way, I refuse to cooperate in the slightest until I get at least one thing: a functioning public domain. Not this pretend one where perhaps after I'm long dead, maybe, just maybe - assuming no more extensions: my grandchildren will get to copy Steamboat Willy. There is no public domain if it doesn't happen in my lifetime: fact. Without my public domain I unilaterally declare the whole of copyright null and void, "they" broke it first so no agreement until "they" come back and deal in good faith. Because apparently politicians do not believe that Citizens need to be consulted for their positions to bargain with at the copyright table. Guess they're just too damn busy stuffing the money into their pockets as fast as possible under the table. It's a Sonny situation. Heh.
Let them continue to shoot themselves in their feet repeatedly. More and more, make it unbearable. I love it when the entertainment moguls are hysterical to the point of nonsense. Because it is only hastening the day when they are completely irrelevent because nobody listens to a stark raving lunatic. So, shout it to the rooftops whenever they are idiots: real people (as in not lawyers and corporates) already know they are full of it. Dig away media, you're almost dead and the hole will be conveniently there for you to keel over into when you're done digging. By the way, do your part: download from your own personal sense of fair-use until an actual rational one is established by a Unicorn in the fairy court. If penaties are ludicrous, join systems such as The Onion Router. make new systems if you can, and lie through your teeth conflating the issues as much as you have to the entire way. It's not my duty to cooperate in the slightest with them.
Thank you, putting it that way is the first step in changing the crappy situation. I *WANT* my artists to get every penny they fricken' deserve. The world unfortunately keeps getting in the way.
We all know and I'll be dancing the day labels are truly history (sadly even the nice ones) and artists can make more money selling directly to their fans who will spend less money getting the music. I think labels are blood-sucking and need to go but I am trying to teach my niece that the artists she loves have to pay their rent (not fill their swimming pools with money like the labels) and they need support. It sucks that its difficult to pull apart the labels and the artists for now.
I know however that in this case it is not *right*. I want to re-download not just for me but for you too because there is no logical reason to be perpetuating this "getting-screwed." We are in the Information Age but industry is still acting like we are in the Industrial Age. It's dumb, times need to be kept up with.
The first step in finding a better bargain is recognizing the true values of things. I think the transition to digital music is being rough because as you say: the industry is being obstinate in dealing with the real values of what they have. I'll have none of that thank you, and I believe that sales indicate that quite a few people intuitively agree - even if the means could be better expressed.
Hee hee, you just made my day a little better. Thank you ;) You said "I'm right!" and I said: "NO! You're right!" Yeah, moving on ;) =D
It's a sucky way to learn the lesson. Unfortunately it also in this case does not reinforce the right thing to do. Which was the whole point to begin with.
Heh, Queen Bee. Never thought of it that way. Thank you, now I have a good way to describe the popularity bit towards her that is intuitive to understand!
I don't use iTunes. I *assumed* that you could *obviously* download your entire library as often as you like because while there *is* a cost it is so *negligible* it, in a sane world, should not be a consideration. My assumption was a mistake and led to my encouraging my niece to do the "right" thing and buy her music. Now she is a kid, she doesn't know how to check if she can re-download, she doesn't know how to understand the legalese that even lawyers probably don't read, and she doesn't know how to back up files on her system. She doesn't even know which folder they go to. It all started with that little assumption: It *is* so cheap it damn well should be free to re-download from the business logic of customer satisfaction. Why it is not is idiotic when you can read in other posts in this branch about what Steam lets you do. Now I know all about iTunes, I'm still not a customer and the needle definitely hasn't been moved towards becoming one. This isn't about me, this is about attempting to teach my niece to be a better person and participate in our society in positive ways. I got her to try it, she got burned. Damnit, now I have to get into lessons that she shouldn't have had to try to understand for a few more years. And all because the obvious option of re-downloading is idiotically missing. Yes, writing this post is making me very annoyed.
CD's should *not* be replaced for free, they are a physical item and cost money to make new ones. However retransmitting an aac file does not require new wires to be purchased each time just an amazingly small amount of electricity that would have been used for something else anyway if you didn't use it for that. Now, replacing a physical cd, shipping plus costs incurred only I can warm to. By the way, I loved my Commodore 64 too.
What I should do is introduce her to the equivalent of Open Source music. I don't even know what that is like, I haven't tried any. She's at the age where it's all about what her friends are listening to however. Perhaps if I can get her early with some Creative Commons type stuff some of it will stick.
You have satisfied my confirmation bias, go back to the original post: the labels *can* suck it, perhaps they should try treating their customers better. In the meantime I'll still keep looking for ways to give the artists I love my money. That is the lesson I'm trying to impart to my niece. Labels, they can die however: can't come soon enough - confirmed yet again in my mind.
Thank you for the tip! If I *still* haven't received a response in another 3-4 days that will be the next step: request a refund. I don't actually want a refund, I want my niece to have her music and *this* time I will darn well burn the cdr right away. Ironic that here the cdr also contains a tax to pay for pirated music when you burn your legal collection to it...
You do not understand. I left my godlike powers of observation under the cushion. Of course in a perfect world everything would be automatically backed up to a distributed cloud and no one would ever lose anything! But here, at Unsafe at Any Speed, in the real world: companies only do what they are made to do and what they want to do is rarely right, only profitable.
Someone find somebody who knows computers and rewrite Nader in the context of computing, you'll make a mint.