My buddies who live in the big cities like San Fran, even mediums like Portland, use Craig's List all the time to co-ordinate sales and loans of everything from cd's to cars to bikes and computers etc...
Your Dutch online advertising site sounds like it works the same way Craig's List does... and on a primarily local basis...
I wonder if EBay has ever done any studies looking into Craig's List (and the like) and whether or not that sort of site has impacted eaby.
I know that I would (much) rather hit up Craig's List than Ebay... If I happen to be in a large city that has such a list...
I wonder what definition of "real" (which you have so conveniently bolded for us) you are working off of. If a person's choice of software is what defines him as a "real" "artist"... hmm...
The Apple computer platform has been marketed in recent years with the "you are not an artist unless you own a mac" tagline for a number of years.
That is why they can charge a premium for their sub-standard-hardware-and-super-slick-os package. Your "real" artists use macs because they have been told too.
There's a lot of phoniness tied up there.
I don't know why i bothered to response to your tripe.
Just out of curiosity, which websites did you "troll" -- or was it just this one?!
(1) Graphic output is in many ways subjective -- if you don't like what I do, fine. That's, like, your opinion, man.
(2) The most you probably hit up was three of my websites... Mostly personal ones, mostly not done for money, mostly not designed to be "professional."
(3) What the hell does someone's personal artistical output have to do with software analysis in the first place?
I've concluded that your conclusions are weak.
I've also concluded that Slashdot's glory days are long, long over...
Funny, but 9 times out of ten I can get my stuff done in TheGIMP before photoshop even loads.
And this is on a windows box, where TheGIMP loads real slowly, compared to a native GTK environment.
Now, of course this is for web work, logos, small graphics, not for big posters or print work, but the point stands I belive.
The fact of the matter is that most "graphic designers" who do not really have computing background have spent a long time with lots of classes or books or what have you in order to learn PS in the first place.
This seems to me to be exactly the way people have dealt with the PHP/ASP rivalry.
I have run across NUMEROUS functions that are wrappers for ASP code within a PHP program. Functions that mimic exactly ASP procedures.
This is code bloat and poor programming at its absolute WORST. Take a beautiful language, and trash it by accomadating the USERS of a poor programming language SIMPLY because they [the users] are familiar with the other language. Atrocious!
Any program/language should be designed in the simplest, most efficent, most user-friendly way possible.
If any program/language makes an advance, FORCE users [for their own good] to LEARN SOMETHING NEW.
The advocates of PS by-and-large rail against TheGIMP's UI. Understanding the UI is by-and-large a personal problem, and certain UI's appeal to certain personalities naturally. But I suspect that the vast majority of the critics, as per human nature, simply do not wish to change their current UI. Even for one that is inherently better.
UI design is an advanced concept, and it seems that even many professional software designers do not understand the concepts. The vast majority of website designers clearly do not understand the concepts. How can we expect the end users to either?
The challenge here is to
(1) admit that the current interface you use is not perfect
(2) learn an entirely new interface, deploy it professionaly, and compare it with the old one
If you are too stubborn to actually learn a new UI, of course your criticism of the program will be "it has a poor UI." Which of course means, "I couldn't/wasn't willing to figure it out."
"From the review, "UNIX has this wonderful habit of trying to protect users from their own stupidity without recognising its own.""
SECURITY! SECURITY! HELLO!!
Simply stated: you are not used to an OS with some level of internal security. This does not constitute a valid reason to bash that OS. Please do not criticize things you do not even pretend to understand.
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Wow, that sounds a lot like craig's list...
My buddies who live in the big cities like San Fran, even mediums like Portland, use Craig's List all the time to co-ordinate sales and loans of everything from cd's to cars to bikes and computers etc...
Your Dutch online advertising site sounds like it works the same way Craig's List does... and on a primarily local basis...
I wonder if EBay has ever done any studies looking into Craig's List (and the like) and whether or not that sort of site has impacted eaby.
I know that I would (much) rather hit up Craig's List than Ebay... If I happen to be in a large city that has such a list...
I wonder what definition of "real" (which you have so conveniently bolded for us) you are working off of. If a person's choice of software is what defines him as a "real" "artist"... hmm...
The Apple computer platform has been marketed in recent years with the "you are not an artist unless you own a mac" tagline for a number of years.
That is why they can charge a premium for their sub-standard-hardware-and-super-slick-os package. Your "real" artists use macs because they have been told too.
There's a lot of phoniness tied up there.
I don't know why i bothered to response to your tripe.
Just out of curiosity, which websites did you "troll" -- or was it just this one?!
(1) Graphic output is in many ways subjective -- if you don't like what I do, fine. That's, like, your opinion, man.
(2) The most you probably hit up was three of my websites... Mostly personal ones, mostly not done for money, mostly not designed to be "professional."
(3) What the hell does someone's personal artistical output have to do with software analysis in the first place?
I've concluded that your conclusions are weak.
I've also concluded that Slashdot's glory days are long, long over...
Funny, but 9 times out of ten I can get my stuff done in TheGIMP before photoshop even loads.
And this is on a windows box, where TheGIMP loads real slowly, compared to a native GTK environment.
Now, of course this is for web work, logos, small graphics, not for big posters or print work, but the point stands I belive.
The fact of the matter is that most "graphic designers" who do not really have computing background have spent a long time with lots of classes or books or what have you in order to learn PS in the first place.
This seems to me to be exactly the way people have dealt with the PHP/ASP rivalry.
I have run across NUMEROUS functions that are wrappers for ASP code within a PHP program. Functions that mimic exactly ASP procedures.
This is code bloat and poor programming at its absolute WORST. Take a beautiful language, and trash it by accomadating the USERS of a poor programming language SIMPLY because they [the users] are familiar with the other language. Atrocious!
Any program/language should be designed in the simplest, most efficent, most user-friendly way possible.
If any program/language makes an advance, FORCE users [for their own good] to LEARN SOMETHING NEW.
This is way of progress.
The advocates of PS by-and-large rail against TheGIMP's UI. Understanding the UI is by-and-large a personal problem, and certain UI's appeal to certain personalities naturally. But I suspect that the vast majority of the critics, as per human nature, simply do not wish to change their current UI. Even for one that is inherently better.
UI design is an advanced concept, and it seems that even many professional software designers do not understand the concepts. The vast majority of website designers clearly do not understand the concepts. How can we expect the end users to either?
The challenge here is to
(1) admit that the current interface you use is not perfect
(2) learn an entirely new interface, deploy it professionaly, and compare it with the old one
If you are too stubborn to actually learn a new UI, of course your criticism of the program will be "it has a poor UI." Which of course means, "I couldn't/wasn't willing to figure it out."
So why bother posting about it here?
"From the review, "UNIX has this wonderful habit of trying to protect users from their own stupidity without recognising its own."" SECURITY! SECURITY! HELLO!! Simply stated: you are not used to an OS with some level of internal security. This does not constitute a valid reason to bash that OS. Please do not criticize things you do not even pretend to understand.
Think capacitors.
If taser's can do it, rfid-friers can too.