BG: There's no consideration of that at this point.
"At this point"? Very interesting that he seems to admit they might consider it at all. Or maybe I'm reading too much into a figure of speech.
If he had not qualified that statement, could you imagine the brew-ha-ha that would result when MS Office XB (Extreme Buggering - due 2007) for Linux is released? I think the reason for the qualification is that he doesn't like all of the 640k jokes running around.
The old profile can't be deleted (by the installer) because that profile may contain information important to the user such as email settings, bookmarks, and such.
If you don't need any of that stuff (maybe it's not your primary browser/email client) you can always manually delete the profile directory before or after installation.
Perhaps that should be an option during install, but I could see problems with even that on multi-user systems.
Uh, it was released for just those systems. Although the article did not say one way or the other, a click through to the mozilla download directory would have revealed the following mozilla builds:
MS Outlook *Webmail* does not require anything special. As far as the web browser is concerned, it's just a collection of dynamically generated web pages. Outlook itself is a different matter. Nothing has yet to make the 100% comapatibility mark, not even Outlook webmail.
To be sure, cross-over office can do it, as can vmware, et al, but those all run the actual Outlook client so compatibility there is a non-issue. Evolution connector is close, but still not 100%.
but lindows is one of the last distros i'd set up for my parents. They charge to download software, that's not what i'm looking for in a nice learning package to give to my folks. My mom is able to operate Mandrake (after i had configed it) as easily as she can run windows (which i also configed). Lindows is still a very rude company in my mind, and I won't support them. the above is complete and utter flamebait and should be modded as such.
A computer is a tool. It helps me get things done. I'm naturally going to use the most efficient tool I can find.
That right there is the difference between a geek and a normal computer user, no matter how experienced. To me, a computer is nothing short of the world's greatest puzzle. It's to be toyed and tinkered with. If my tinkering breaks it, that's wonderful because I then have the opportunity to fix it. You can't fix what ain't broke, and where's the fun if it isn't broken in some way?
But I understand that most people are not that way, and that's why Linux is so cool. It can be whatever you want it to be: a super easy desktop, a super powerful desktop, a server, an embedded OS - all in the same kernel, but with dfferent wrappers.
Kudos to Lindows for trying to bring Linux to the inexperienced masses.
They are not simply looking for information. They are mining websites in order to find email addresses to send promotional offers to.
This is analogous to a junk mailer going down to city hall and getting a list of physical addresses to which to send his promotional material.
There are some important differences:
1. City hall generally will not give up the names and addresses of it's citizens to just anybody.
2. It's illegal to send unrequested solicitations for pornography, specious medical programs, and many other types of questionable material through the U.S. mail.
Maybe it should be illegal to engage in that sort of activity no matter what the delivery medium. That would at least drive the spammers offshore, which would be a victory of sorts.
EasyZip 2000 still works well for me. Integrates into the windows context menu (right click) and everything. The site only mentions support for Wind 95/98/NT but it works fine on my Win2k setup here at work. Don't know if it's compatable with XP, but I don't see why not.
That is a valid concern. Ximian is not right for everybody - if you do a lot of tweaking to your system, lots of upgrades and whatnot, then you would probably be better off without it. If you are running IT for a business, Ximian has a lot to offer - simple install, consistant, bundled with many third-party applications. That last point is a big time saver when rolling out numerous new desktops.
As far as distribution support, that's like trying to hit a dozen different moving targets all at the same time. Better to settle on a common target and leave it to the administrator to take care of his/her distro's idiosyncracies.
Currently it is. Microsoft is in the console market to stay though. They are hoping that they can get these boxes to be the multimedia center of choice. Look to see many new features in the xbox in coming years. Built-in email and web access, the ability to play DVDs (it can do that now, right?), MP3s, not to mention new games that take advantage of the internet. Probably a bunch more stuff.
But Sony's not going to stand still either. Should be interesting to watch that market develop. Personally, I'm betting on Sony to outpace MS. Especially if they move to a more OS-like solution (linux anyone?).
1) Electronic locks are meant to be a convenience. Every one I've seen so far has been outfitted with a standard type key also. Just in case the electornics fail. Even if this lock doesn't have one, models that make it to production would have to.
2) Locks like this could be designed to open manually from the inside in case of emergency. That's trivial.
3) Firemen, police, and other emergency personnel don't need keys. They have fire axes, and failing that, trucks that can pull a door open or push it in. In an emergency, no one is very concerned about niceties like locks, electronic or otherwise.
No lock is too much of a deterent to someone that wants in bad enough, or someone that wants out for that matter. They are just there to prevent the idle curious from running off with your stuff.
That 600 bucks covers five seats. I just built a nice mid-level machine and it cost me 550 bucks sans monitor. So, for business purposes, add at least $100 for the monitor. All that times five is $3,250.
Let's see... yep, $3,250 is greater than $600.
Looks like you're wrong on this one. Unless you mean software for Windows, in which case you'd be right.
And you may be right about the Mac too. I saw one the other day and was suitably impressed. But for now, I'll stick with x86 because the Mac doesn't offer me enough to switch to an unkown (to me) architecture. And I really like the flexibility of x86 architecture.
The one advantage I see to PHP over Perl is persistant session management. To recreate that in perl is quite a bit of work. Even then, in CGI environments it's not a true session, but one that gets reconstructed from files or a database with every page request. At least, that's been my experience. It's very possible that perl has something for that (there's lots of third party modules), but I haven't found it yet.
For general web stuff, I normally choose PHP because of it's ease of use in most situations. For those that require heavy lifting, like heavy duty parsing of various document types, I use perl.
Perl is an awesome scripting language - I use it every day for a wide variety of things, but for fast and easy webbased DB apps, PHP is hard to beat.
At some point, you have to mix your html with code. Even OOP languages have to resort to this at some point. I mean, if you don't, then you must be sending raw html out to the browser without any processing what-so-ever. That is, serving static pages. If you're doing that, you need content management software, not web application software.
When writing web applications, you should always check for error conditions before writing any HTML to the page. You can do that with any language.
Perl stansds for "Practical Extraction and Reporting Language". Invented in 1987 by Larry Wall, it was originally used for in system maintenance tools for UNIX, mostly parsing logs and foramatting the results for display on the screen.
What is it about being a zealot that interferes with one's ability to form clear, concise sentences free of spelling and grammar mistakes?
And what, by the way, would everything be poised to doom? Society? The planet, maybe? Your cat? My proper digestion? Yeah, that's probably it.
Anyway, I doubt that the morality of our society is in much danger of being corrupted, given that we've never been particularly moral in the first place. Society's morale, on the other hand, may well be in danger. But I think that has more to do with the current political/economic climate than with whether or not we eat meat.
I mean, does the name "Internet Explorer" convey a web browser to you?
No, but then again, I also know the difference between the web and the interenet. Most IE users do not. Therefore, the name "Interenet Explorer" most certainly does describe a web browser to them. Remember, to most people, the web IS the internet.
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1. Gator monitors your web surfing habits and uploads that information to their database. That information is then, presumably, sold. They claim they do not record personally identifiable information, but URLs often contain identity strings which can be cross-referenced.
2. Gator throws annoying advertisements at you, even going to the point of showing you advertisements from certain companies when you view their competitors' websites (eg: seeing FedEx ads when you view the UPS website). They are currently in some hot water over this practice.
It has yet to be determined that #2 is illegal, but it seems unethical at best. Given that Gator engages in at least one unethical action, how are we to believe they would not engage in other unethical or illegal actions, especially as regards to point #1 (above)?
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hell, I bet maybe only one in that twelve realizes that the spam is being blocked in the first place (what spam?).
That's why I'm with the crowd that thinks that spam filtering is a waste of time. In fact, I think it ultimately does more harm than good - especially when it's done at the server level. If more people actually saw all the spam that was sent to them, there would be a much larger public outcry. As it is, most people regard the problem as somewhat amusing, if annoying, instead of as the costly epidemic it really is.
But then again, I also agreed with the late, great Bill Hicks when he urged all advertisers and marketers to kill themselves. I'm personally offended by all the advertising that I'm subjected to every day. I think that all advertising should be restricted to appropriate forums such as dedicated magazines, TV channels, and websites.
The fact is that people, including myself, do want to view advertisements for products that they are interested in, and will search out that advertising. There is no need to subject people to unwanted, garish marketing -- except that those companies that employ such methods demonstrably sell more products, to the detriment of other companies that try to be more socially responsible. Restrict business to advertising in forums established expressly for the purpose and the world would be a much more peaceful place.
And don't give me any guff about free speech. Businesses are not citizens, and should not have any such rights.
I realize that many media outlets rely on advertising revenue for their business models, and that many would die if they were deprived of it. Just don't expect me to care. Those outlets with the creativity to find better models will survive. More than likely the public would end up being the customer instead of the product, resulting in better media.
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BG: There's no consideration of that at this point.
"At this point"? Very interesting that he seems to admit they might consider it at all. Or maybe I'm reading too much into a figure of speech.
If he had not qualified that statement, could you imagine the brew-ha-ha that would result when MS Office XB (Extreme Buggering - due 2007) for Linux is released? I think the reason for the qualification is that he doesn't like all of the 640k jokes running around.
The old profile can't be deleted (by the installer) because that profile may contain information important to the user such as email settings, bookmarks, and such.
If you don't need any of that stuff (maybe it's not your primary browser/email client) you can always manually delete the profile directory before or after installation.
Perhaps that should be an option during install, but I could see problems with even that on multi-user systems.
Uh, it was released for just those systems. Although the article did not say one way or the other, a click through to the mozilla download directory would have revealed the following mozilla builds:
mozilla-i686-pc-linux-gnu-1.4-installer.tar.gz 30-Jun-2003 12:38 95k
mozilla-i686-pc-linux-gnu-1.4-sea.tar.gz 30-Jun-2003 12:40 13.4M
mozilla-i686-pc-linux-gnu-1.4.tar.gz 24-Jun-2003 11:38 11.9M
mozilla-i686-pc-linux-gnu-egcs112-1.4.tar.gz 30-Jun-2003 17:03 11.8M
mozilla-mac-MachO-1.4.dmg.gz 24-Jun-2003 11:13 15.1M
mozilla-win32-1.4-installer.exe 30-Jun-2003 12:44 11.7M
mozilla-win32-1.4-stub-installer.exe 30-Jun-2003 12:41 222k
mozilla-win32-1.4-talkback.zip 30-Jun-2003 12:45 10.4M
Clearly, no other platforms are yet listed. According to the release notes, however, we can expect builds for other platforms relatively soon.
MS Outlook *Webmail* does not require anything special. As far as the web browser is concerned, it's just a collection of dynamically generated web pages. Outlook itself is a different matter. Nothing has yet to make the 100% comapatibility mark, not even Outlook webmail.
To be sure, cross-over office can do it, as can vmware, et al, but those all run the actual Outlook client so compatibility there is a non-issue. Evolution connector is close, but still not 100%.
Yep, really old trick. The first reference I can find is from 1769.
but lindows is one of the last distros i'd set up for my parents. They charge to download software, that's not what i'm looking for in a nice learning package to give to my folks. My mom is able to operate Mandrake (after i had configed it) as easily as she can run windows (which i also configed). Lindows is still a very rude company in my mind, and I won't support them.
the above is complete and utter flamebait and should be modded as such.
Nice sig. Very accurate.
A computer is a tool. It helps me get things done. I'm naturally going to use the most efficient tool I can find.
That right there is the difference between a geek and a normal computer user, no matter how experienced. To me, a computer is nothing short of the world's greatest puzzle. It's to be toyed and tinkered with. If my tinkering breaks it, that's wonderful because I then have the opportunity to fix it. You can't fix what ain't broke, and where's the fun if it isn't broken in some way?
But I understand that most people are not that way, and that's why Linux is so cool. It can be whatever you want it to be: a super easy desktop, a super powerful desktop, a server, an embedded OS - all in the same kernel, but with dfferent wrappers.
Kudos to Lindows for trying to bring Linux to the inexperienced masses.
Because pong is something you play.
They are not simply looking for information. They are mining websites in order to find email addresses to send promotional offers to.
This is analogous to a junk mailer going down to city hall and getting a list of physical addresses to which to send his promotional material.
There are some important differences:
1. City hall generally will not give up the names and addresses of it's citizens to just anybody.
2. It's illegal to send unrequested solicitations for pornography, specious medical programs, and many other types of questionable material through the U.S. mail.
Maybe it should be illegal to engage in that sort of activity no matter what the delivery medium. That would at least drive the spammers offshore, which would be a victory of sorts.
I think they meant "glory hole". That would make all the differ...
oh wait, this is slashdot. nevermind.
EasyZip 2000 still works well for me. Integrates into the windows context menu (right click) and everything. The site only mentions support for Wind 95/98/NT but it works fine on my Win2k setup here at work. Don't know if it's compatable with XP, but I don't see why not.
PiNG - no it doesn't make sense (There's no 'i' in 'portable'), but it does have a right to it. Kind of like an aluminum baseball bat.
That is a valid concern. Ximian is not right for everybody - if you do a lot of tweaking to your system, lots of upgrades and whatnot, then you would probably be better off without it. If you are running IT for a business, Ximian has a lot to offer - simple install, consistant, bundled with many third-party applications. That last point is a big time saver when rolling out numerous new desktops.
As far as distribution support, that's like trying to hit a dozen different moving targets all at the same time. Better to settle on a common target and leave it to the administrator to take care of his/her distro's idiosyncracies.
Spell checker?
We don't need no stinking spell checker.
Currently it is. Microsoft is in the console market to stay though. They are hoping that they can get these boxes to be the multimedia center of choice. Look to see many new features in the xbox in coming years. Built-in email and web access, the ability to play DVDs (it can do that now, right?), MP3s, not to mention new games that take advantage of the internet. Probably a bunch more stuff.
But Sony's not going to stand still either. Should be interesting to watch that market develop. Personally, I'm betting on Sony to outpace MS. Especially if they move to a more OS-like solution (linux anyone?).
That's easy.
1) Electronic locks are meant to be a convenience. Every one I've seen so far has been outfitted with a standard type key also. Just in case the electornics fail. Even if this lock doesn't have one, models that make it to production would have to.
2) Locks like this could be designed to open manually from the inside in case of emergency. That's trivial.
3) Firemen, police, and other emergency personnel don't need keys. They have fire axes, and failing that, trucks that can pull a door open or push it in. In an emergency, no one is very concerned about niceties like locks, electronic or otherwise.
No lock is too much of a deterent to someone that wants in bad enough, or someone that wants out for that matter. They are just there to prevent the idle curious from running off with your stuff.
It's funny because it's true. - Homer Simpson
That 600 bucks covers five seats. I just built a nice mid-level machine and it cost me 550 bucks sans monitor. So, for business purposes, add at least $100 for the monitor. All that times five is $3,250.
Let's see... yep, $3,250 is greater than $600.
Looks like you're wrong on this one. Unless you mean software for Windows, in which case you'd be right.
And you may be right about the Mac too. I saw one the other day and was suitably impressed. But for now, I'll stick with x86 because the Mac doesn't offer me enough to switch to an unkown (to me) architecture. And I really like the flexibility of x86 architecture.
The one advantage I see to PHP over Perl is persistant session management. To recreate that in perl is quite a bit of work. Even then, in CGI environments it's not a true session, but one that gets reconstructed from files or a database with every page request. At least, that's been my experience. It's very possible that perl has something for that (there's lots of third party modules), but I haven't found it yet.
For general web stuff, I normally choose PHP because of it's ease of use in most situations. For those that require heavy lifting, like heavy duty parsing of various document types, I use perl.
Perl is an awesome scripting language - I use it every day for a wide variety of things, but for fast and easy webbased DB apps, PHP is hard to beat.
At some point, you have to mix your html with code. Even OOP languages have to resort to this at some point. I mean, if you don't, then you must be sending raw html out to the browser without any processing what-so-ever. That is, serving static pages. If you're doing that, you need content management software, not web application software.
When writing web applications, you should always check for error conditions before writing any HTML to the page. You can do that with any language.
Perl fast facts
Perl stansds for "Practical Extraction and Reporting Language". Invented in 1987 by Larry Wall, it was originally used for in system maintenance tools for UNIX, mostly parsing logs and foramatting the results for display on the screen.
What is it about being a zealot that interferes with one's ability to form clear, concise sentences free of spelling and grammar mistakes?
And what, by the way, would everything be poised to doom? Society? The planet, maybe? Your cat? My proper digestion? Yeah, that's probably it.
Anyway, I doubt that the morality of our society is in much danger of being corrupted, given that we've never been particularly moral in the first place. Society's morale, on the other hand, may well be in danger. But I think that has more to do with the current political/economic climate than with whether or not we eat meat.
I mean, does the name "Internet Explorer" convey a web browser to you?
No, but then again, I also know the difference between the web and the interenet. Most IE users do not. Therefore, the name "Interenet Explorer" most certainly does describe a web browser to them. Remember, to most people, the web IS the internet.
1. Gator monitors your web surfing habits and uploads that information to their database. That information is then, presumably, sold. They claim they do not record personally identifiable information, but URLs often contain identity strings which can be cross-referenced.
2. Gator throws annoying advertisements at you, even going to the point of showing you advertisements from certain companies when you view their competitors' websites (eg: seeing FedEx ads when you view the UPS website). They are currently in some hot water over this practice.
It has yet to be determined that #2 is illegal, but it seems unethical at best. Given that Gator engages in at least one unethical action, how are we to believe they would not engage in other unethical or illegal actions, especially as regards to point #1 (above)?
hell, I bet maybe only one in that twelve realizes that the spam is being blocked in the first place (what spam?).
That's why I'm with the crowd that thinks that spam filtering is a waste of time. In fact, I think it ultimately does more harm than good - especially when it's done at the server level. If more people actually saw all the spam that was sent to them, there would be a much larger public outcry. As it is, most people regard the problem as somewhat amusing, if annoying, instead of as the costly epidemic it really is.
But then again, I also agreed with the late, great Bill Hicks when he urged all advertisers and marketers to kill themselves. I'm personally offended by all the advertising that I'm subjected to every day. I think that all advertising should be restricted to appropriate forums such as dedicated magazines, TV channels, and websites.
The fact is that people, including myself, do want to view advertisements for products that they are interested in, and will search out that advertising. There is no need to subject people to unwanted, garish marketing -- except that those companies that employ such methods demonstrably sell more products, to the detriment of other companies that try to be more socially responsible. Restrict business to advertising in forums established expressly for the purpose and the world would be a much more peaceful place.
And don't give me any guff about free speech. Businesses are not citizens, and should not have any such rights.
I realize that many media outlets rely on advertising revenue for their business models, and that many would die if they were deprived of it. Just don't expect me to care. Those outlets with the creativity to find better models will survive. More than likely the public would end up being the customer instead of the product, resulting in better media.