I think that any time any property case, intellectual or not, is brought before a judge, it should be required that preceeding that, the prosecuting company has shown due dilligence in trying to deal with the problem out of court before forcing it into court. That should be law. It isn't, but it should be. That is what I state, as it is immoral for a company to waste taxpayer money and court time in a case they cannot be bothered themselves to try to take care of outside of a courtroom.
well, that much is true...guess i misread part of it. But you're absolutely right...i find the people who consider what they learned in college to be right above all, and make damned sure everyone hears about it, are just as bad as jihad-shouting muslim fundementalists and fanatical public-outcry-loving fundamentalist christians.
and your opinion is completely irrelevant. Lawsuits are meant as a last resort action, not a first line defense. That is why this case should be thrown out of court. How's that?
um...I beg to differ. Yes, i agree that athiest zealots are just as obnoxious as the self-righteous forceful christians. However, there is such as thing as a fundamental christian who isn't a social disease.
Also, I am a christian and I wear all black. It does not make me an idiot.
Just figured I ought to share that. offtopic. whatever.
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yeah...i got lucky with Surfin' the Highway...it was out of print when i got it, but I lived in the same town as Steve Purcell, and the comic shop owner was friends with him so her shelves always had it in stock, autographed (no less), at normal cover price. Mine even has max sketched inside the cover...it rocks.
I agree entirely...and even if it wasn't Microsoft's idea, then it was certainly SCO hoping to bait Microsoft into giving them lots of money to fund their litigational temper tantrum. And it worked so far, but I don't see it.
I would like to see IBM buy SCO out and say screw it. However, I think SCO has no case and I have trouble with the idea of letting SCO win when a good precedent can be set in favor of the GPL rather than the trade secret that apparently SCO has already been GPLing for years.
So all in all, until MS and their filthy paws got involved, I rather liked the prospect of IBM destroying SCO in court. Now all I can do is fear, since the boys in Redmond are well known for not playing fair.
no, i'm using SCO as an example of how not to do a civil case. If you haven't reasonably tried to get the defendant to cease and desist without legal action, then IMHO you have no right to try to do so WITH legal action. That's not how the game is played, son.
1: if IBM had the SCO code made known to them that is supposedly in linux, they would be in the process of removing it, like, now. That is, if it is actually a violation, unlike the laughable farce i believe this to be.
2: Many users are not using the code SCO claims was taken. I take for example the SMP scalability issue. Most users don't even know what SMP stands for, much less have more than one processor in their computer. There goes that one...
Now, here's where it gets silly.
3: SCO would have shared this information with someone who could fix the problem if they were serious about getting it removed from Linux. Last time I checked, the courts were not the first place a grieved entity was supposed to go, but rather to the defendant, to try to get things taken care of without wasting our tax dollars in court.
Clearly, SCO is on a petty rampage about nothing. I wouldn't be surprised to see them taking cash from Microsoft to do it, either. It's win-win for SCO...either they get lots of money on the extremely off-chance that they have a case, or they get put out of their misery.
well, perhaps it was simply user error, but every time i try to install debian i get tons of conflicting dependencies that give me hell. Perhaps a minimal install would solve it and building from there. However, while it may not be the same dependency hell of red hat, it's still a different dependency hell. Oh, and good luck getting help in any debian irc or whatever...tried it, got flamed, gave up.
Debian may be fine for you, but I run into all sorts of conflicting dependencies and such whenever I try it, or the install things exit out before I intended to. It may be old hat to you, but it made me want to quit.
Gentoo, on the other hand, while it takes some work, is simple to set up and doesn't have the same complexity to the install interface (because it lacks one).
And to answer your question, emerge upgrades as well. You can simply type emerge [programname] or emerge -u [programname] to upgrade to the latest version, the -u flag also updating every dependency to the latest. No need to remove first.
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I disagree. PCP makes a person rather untameable. Risking their own ass to take down someone artficially enhanced to where they are going to be unsubduable by normal means changes such rules. Ergo, it is the police's job to beat the living shit out of a man on PCP. Let's see you arrest someone on PCP without doing what they did, and then we'll talk about this "not the police's job" business.
well, that may be true. However, I'm not concerned with the humane treatment of people on PCP. I wouldn't care if they had shot him.
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I agree there's no justification to commit crimes against civilians, but this wasn't a crime. this was an arrest. Subduing a man on PCP is different from cuffing a drunk.
and you, sir, are an idiot. Rodney King was being arrested for good reason, and was on PCP. When a suspect is on PCP, your "hold him down, cuff him, and put him in the cruiser." plan doesn't work. Suspects on PCP have been known to break their handcuffs (and their wrists at the same time) and keep fighting, never even noticing their wrists are broken for being hopped up so much on the PCP. Learn your drugs before you speak about how to deal with those on them.
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You're damned skippy it will. I don't think they were out of line to beat the living shit out of him at all, considering the PCP was making it necessary.
While you are correct, I was simply showing that the "standards" are not always standards because they are a good way of doing things, but rather because they are easier for the people in current positions of leadership than switching to a better method.
Standards exist and are worth protecting because they make everyone's lives easier.
True to a point, but only if those standards are good. I certainly wouldn't want every linux built upon the Linux Standard Base, for example, because it entails usage of RPM, which is fine for many but doesn't suit my preferences. There is a difference between useful standards and standards which are constructed for easy migration from the status quo. (IPV4 vs IPV6, for example.)
However, to clarify, I don't disagree with you. Unix and looking and smelling like unix are different. But Unix and Unix-esque are tough to separate these days in conversation. There isn't a pronunciation for *nix, and nobody is going to say "unix-style operating system* as a general conversation term, especially in conversations utilizing the word/phrase repeatedly.
While that is true to a certain extent, my biggest problem with the current status of colleges is not with the colleges themselves but with the schools leading up to them. I think that they are geared too much towards college preparation and too little towards actual education. I believe that tying high school graduation to age is ridiculous. I believe that elementary schools not only are too slow, but should teach foreign language. I believe that the average american high school is more focused with keeping its students on campus to get state funding for attendance than it is with getting them actually interested in learning. I believe that the result of these changes has made universities have to depend upon standardized testing rather than actual observation of skills to choose their students. I believe that academia is used too often these days as an escape from the responsibilities that come with emerging into the real world. I believe that self education holds little value on paper anymore despite it often having just as much practical value as a degree. I believe that the GI bill filled jobs that did not need college with college graduates, forcing the next holder of the position to have a degree too. I believe there are lots of colleges these days that are not worthy of the title. I believe that there are lots of people holding degrees who should never have been awarded them, as well as many who became sick of the debt and bureaucracy and chose not to go who are even in their current state of knowledge deserve it more.
That is but a fraction of what i was talking about.
actually, i used to work at microsoft and repeatedly brought a linux laptop to work and used linux floppies as tech tools. Needless to say, I don't work there anymore and it wasn't by my choice.
And there is something wrong with grown men who cannot enjoy the simple pleasures in life. If I spent my whole life worrying about the target age group of everything I did, I would have missed out on lots of things, including movies such as Goonies and The Princess Bride, as well as cartoons like Rugrats and Spongebob Squarepants.
Note that this is coming out of a man whose primary preferences as far as movies and television are along the lines of MASH, Shakespeare (which for all you collegiate types who seem to think it is to be read rather than watched, are plays and intended to be watched as such rather than read), and other various shows and films that the average 5 year old who is targeted by these audiences will almost certainly not really understand.
Tying yourself to one target-age will not make you any smarter.
damn. every time one of these wankers posts its an AC post. my foes list would be way bigger.
Anyhow, the reason that music is not a viable industry for goods, is that it is a service or skill. The only reason labels exist is for transportation and marketing, not for actual music production or benefit of musicians. Their iron curtain, so to speak, of the broadcast world is an abomination of the intent of the constutituion's copyright clause, as are the present copyright term lengths.
I agree entirely. When I worked at microsoft, even resizing a partition caused endless problems. However, when I got a new, larger hard drive for my linux-based personal laptop, I had everything copied over and the OS running on the new drive and bootable with no errors in under half an hour. Naturally on my home network I back up stuff to my network, but even so, the time it takes me to get my box replaced on my home network is negligible. In fact, someone needed my duron 900 and without any problems whatsoever I am swapping that drive into a compaq workstation 5100 dual processor pentium 2 as we speak and as soon as it is done installing linux, it will use my foresight-drivern partitions such as/home being a seperate partition to immediately restore my account to exactly how it was. Gotta love an operating system that cares more about function than finance.
college into a trade school? last time I checked, there hasn't been a real college in the US since the mid forties. The GI bill ruined any chance we had at getting an honest-to-god "University" on our blessid soil.
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I think that any time any property case, intellectual or not, is brought before a judge, it should be required that preceeding that, the prosecuting company has shown due dilligence in trying to deal with the problem out of court before forcing it into court. That should be law. It isn't, but it should be. That is what I state, as it is immoral for a company to waste taxpayer money and court time in a case they cannot be bothered themselves to try to take care of outside of a courtroom.
well, that much is true...guess i misread part of it. But you're absolutely right...i find the people who consider what they learned in college to be right above all, and make damned sure everyone hears about it, are just as bad as jihad-shouting muslim fundementalists and fanatical public-outcry-loving fundamentalist christians.
and your opinion is completely irrelevant. Lawsuits are meant as a last resort action, not a first line defense. That is why this case should be thrown out of court. How's that?
um...I beg to differ. Yes, i agree that athiest zealots are just as obnoxious as the self-righteous forceful christians. However, there is such as thing as a fundamental christian who isn't a social disease.
Also, I am a christian and I wear all black. It does not make me an idiot.
Just figured I ought to share that. offtopic. whatever.
yeah...i got lucky with Surfin' the Highway...it was out of print when i got it, but I lived in the same town as Steve Purcell, and the comic shop owner was friends with him so her shelves always had it in stock, autographed (no less), at normal cover price. Mine even has max sketched inside the cover...it rocks.
I agree entirely...and even if it wasn't Microsoft's idea, then it was certainly SCO hoping to bait Microsoft into giving them lots of money to fund their litigational temper tantrum. And it worked so far, but I don't see it.
I would like to see IBM buy SCO out and say screw it. However, I think SCO has no case and I have trouble with the idea of letting SCO win when a good precedent can be set in favor of the GPL rather than the trade secret that apparently SCO has already been GPLing for years.
So all in all, until MS and their filthy paws got involved, I rather liked the prospect of IBM destroying SCO in court. Now all I can do is fear, since the boys in Redmond are well known for not playing fair.
no, i'm using SCO as an example of how not to do a civil case. If you haven't reasonably tried to get the defendant to cease and desist without legal action, then IMHO you have no right to try to do so WITH legal action. That's not how the game is played, son.
1: if IBM had the SCO code made known to them that is supposedly in linux, they would be in the process of removing it, like, now. That is, if it is actually a violation, unlike the laughable farce i believe this to be.
2: Many users are not using the code SCO claims was taken. I take for example the SMP scalability issue. Most users don't even know what SMP stands for, much less have more than one processor in their computer. There goes that one...
Now, here's where it gets silly.
3: SCO would have shared this information with someone who could fix the problem if they were serious about getting it removed from Linux. Last time I checked, the courts were not the first place a grieved entity was supposed to go, but rather to the defendant, to try to get things taken care of without wasting our tax dollars in court.
Clearly, SCO is on a petty rampage about nothing. I wouldn't be surprised to see them taking cash from Microsoft to do it, either. It's win-win for SCO...either they get lots of money on the extremely off-chance that they have a case, or they get put out of their misery.
well, perhaps it was simply user error, but every time i try to install debian i get tons of conflicting dependencies that give me hell. Perhaps a minimal install would solve it and building from there. However, while it may not be the same dependency hell of red hat, it's still a different dependency hell. Oh, and good luck getting help in any debian irc or whatever...tried it, got flamed, gave up.
Debian may be fine for you, but I run into all sorts of conflicting dependencies and such whenever I try it, or the install things exit out before I intended to. It may be old hat to you, but it made me want to quit.
Gentoo, on the other hand, while it takes some work, is simple to set up and doesn't have the same complexity to the install interface (because it lacks one).
And to answer your question, emerge upgrades as well. You can simply type emerge [programname] or emerge -u [programname] to upgrade to the latest version, the -u flag also updating every dependency to the latest. No need to remove first.
I disagree. PCP makes a person rather untameable. Risking their own ass to take down someone artficially enhanced to where they are going to be unsubduable by normal means changes such rules. Ergo, it is the police's job to beat the living shit out of a man on PCP. Let's see you arrest someone on PCP without doing what they did, and then we'll talk about this "not the police's job" business.
well, that may be true. However, I'm not concerned with the humane treatment of people on PCP. I wouldn't care if they had shot him.
I agree there's no justification to commit crimes against civilians, but this wasn't a crime. this was an arrest. Subduing a man on PCP is different from cuffing a drunk.
and you, sir, are an idiot. Rodney King was being arrested for good reason, and was on PCP. When a suspect is on PCP, your "hold him down, cuff him, and put him in the cruiser." plan doesn't work. Suspects on PCP have been known to break their handcuffs (and their wrists at the same time) and keep fighting, never even noticing their wrists are broken for being hopped up so much on the PCP. Learn your drugs before you speak about how to deal with those on them.
You're damned skippy it will. I don't think they were out of line to beat the living shit out of him at all, considering the PCP was making it necessary.
While you are correct, I was simply showing that the "standards" are not always standards because they are a good way of doing things, but rather because they are easier for the people in current positions of leadership than switching to a better method.
Standards exist and are worth protecting because they make everyone's lives easier.
True to a point, but only if those standards are good. I certainly wouldn't want every linux built upon the Linux Standard Base, for example, because it entails usage of RPM, which is fine for many but doesn't suit my preferences. There is a difference between useful standards and standards which are constructed for easy migration from the status quo. (IPV4 vs IPV6, for example.)
However, to clarify, I don't disagree with you. Unix and looking and smelling like unix are different. But Unix and Unix-esque are tough to separate these days in conversation. There isn't a pronunciation for *nix, and nobody is going to say "unix-style operating system* as a general conversation term, especially in conversations utilizing the word/phrase repeatedly.
I'm not totally sure, but it sure as hell isn't what we have here in the US, and I think it requires a better schooling system to lead up to it too.
While that is true to a certain extent, my biggest problem with the current status of colleges is not with the colleges themselves but with the schools leading up to them. I think that they are geared too much towards college preparation and too little towards actual education. I believe that tying high school graduation to age is ridiculous. I believe that elementary schools not only are too slow, but should teach foreign language. I believe that the average american high school is more focused with keeping its students on campus to get state funding for attendance than it is with getting them actually interested in learning. I believe that the result of these changes has made universities have to depend upon standardized testing rather than actual observation of skills to choose their students. I believe that academia is used too often these days as an escape from the responsibilities that come with emerging into the real world. I believe that self education holds little value on paper anymore despite it often having just as much practical value as a degree. I believe that the GI bill filled jobs that did not need college with college graduates, forcing the next holder of the position to have a degree too. I believe there are lots of colleges these days that are not worthy of the title. I believe that there are lots of people holding degrees who should never have been awarded them, as well as many who became sick of the debt and bureaucracy and chose not to go who are even in their current state of knowledge deserve it more.
That is but a fraction of what i was talking about.
actually, i used to work at microsoft and repeatedly brought a linux laptop to work and used linux floppies as tech tools. Needless to say, I don't work there anymore and it wasn't by my choice.
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an amateur group in montreal, but they're not doing half bad...
And there is something wrong with grown men who cannot enjoy the simple pleasures in life. If I spent my whole life worrying about the target age group of everything I did, I would have missed out on lots of things, including movies such as Goonies and The Princess Bride, as well as cartoons like Rugrats and Spongebob Squarepants.
Note that this is coming out of a man whose primary preferences as far as movies and television are along the lines of MASH, Shakespeare (which for all you collegiate types who seem to think it is to be read rather than watched, are plays and intended to be watched as such rather than read), and other various shows and films that the average 5 year old who is targeted by these audiences will almost certainly not really understand.
Tying yourself to one target-age will not make you any smarter.
damn. every time one of these wankers posts its an AC post. my foes list would be way bigger.
Anyhow, the reason that music is not a viable industry for goods, is that it is a service or skill. The only reason labels exist is for transportation and marketing, not for actual music production or benefit of musicians. Their iron curtain, so to speak, of the broadcast world is an abomination of the intent of the constutituion's copyright clause, as are the present copyright term lengths.
I agree entirely. When I worked at microsoft, even resizing a partition caused endless problems. However, when I got a new, larger hard drive for my linux-based personal laptop, I had everything copied over and the OS running on the new drive and bootable with no errors in under half an hour. Naturally on my home network I back up stuff to my network, but even so, the time it takes me to get my box replaced on my home network is negligible. In fact, someone needed my duron 900 and without any problems whatsoever I am swapping that drive into a compaq workstation 5100 dual processor pentium 2 as we speak and as soon as it is done installing linux, it will use my foresight-drivern partitions such as /home being a seperate partition to immediately restore my account to exactly how it was. Gotta love an operating system that cares more about function than finance.
college into a trade school? last time I checked, there hasn't been a real college in the US since the mid forties. The GI bill ruined any chance we had at getting an honest-to-god "University" on our blessid soil.