Yes, the OSS community should all grow up like MS and spread a bunch of FUD instead. Bogus benchmarks and TCO studies are a much better way then having a funny Bill-Borg image. Then we can get a bunch of patents and fight like children in court over who thought up the multiple clicks "innovation" first.
No, you keep missing the same point. Thousands of applications avaialable to a Linux end-user in binary form. What are these "smaller" applications you talk about? Any application that is half decent is included with the major distros, or avaialable through a third party framework. You keep trying to prove a point that cannot be made. Any Linux app that is worth $1 is available as a binary. I have used Linux for many years, and for the last 4, I have not had to compile ONE application. I have compiled a few because I wanted special options (for example with Apache), but _everything_ I needed was available as a binary.
Your the FUDster mrwonton. I have 3,500+ binary packages available to me with Fedora Core 2. Devian users have somewhere around 8,000+ binary packages! Any major Linux application is available as a binary, end of story.
You're much more likely to have to use the./configure make make install to get software on linux than on OS X.
Stop talking out your @ss. I have run Red Hat, SuSE, Mandrake, Gentoo, Linux From Scratch, Slackware and Fedora. The only time I did./configure was when I built my own Linux systems from Linux From Scratch. I have used Fedora since the first beta version came out and have not compiled any software for years. With Linux I just download and install an RPM and I am done. So take your FUD elsewhere.
as much progress as has occured to make installations easier for Linux, its not "drag to the programs folder" like it is on OS X.
No, you are right. It is "double click the RPM". I gues that it is _much_ harder then "drag to the programs folder" of OS X. I use Synaptic which is a nice GUI to install/unistall apps under Fedora. I double click an application and it is installed (dependencies and all). It has been this way for years. Agian, take your FUD elsewhere.
AMD has been kicking Intel's butt value/speed wise, but not in the corporate world. I have worked at three fortune 500 companies, and _all_ desktops and servers are Intel running Linux or Windows with some Sparc boxes. I did not see _one_ AMD box. It seems Intel has built a killer name in the corporate space and AMD has not made a dent in that. My last three home boxes have been AMD and they have all run great. I wonder why the corporate take-up of AMD has been so slow?
How about just download the new version? Or did you mean how are you supposed to know about it if you are not a geek and read it on/.? Well, go under Tools -> Options -> Advanced, you should see a section called Software Update. Firefox will check periodically for newer version, or you can click the big button labeled Check Now if you want to do it manually. So non-techie Firefox users will get a notice that there is a newer version. Wow, isn't technology great!
The letter doesn't need to go to anyone. Just signed by IBM and made publicly available. I can make a written statement that for the next 10 years I promise not to sue anyone with smelly feet and make it available to all. If I then tried to sue someone with smelly feet during that 10 year period, there would be my signed letter to use against me.
Gartner also found that IBM was number one and the fastest growing in Linux servers with 32.4 percent worldwide revenue share, an increase of 1 point of share and 55 percent growth in the first quarter compared to the same quarter a year earlier.
Sales of Linux servers increased 63 percent from 2001 to 2002, from $1.3 billion to $2 billion, Gartner said. The move mirrors a more dramatic 90 percent growth in the United States in the fourth quarter.
55% growth is nothing to sneeze at. The second numbers are from a few years ago and the $2 billion market has more then doubled. A 90% growth in one quarter is incredible. There are plenty of was for IBM to make big bucks from Linux.
Also, IBM's global services will come in and do anything you want. You want them to build a big LAMP implementation for you? They will do it. They will try and push IBM products first, but they don't care if you want Linux, AIX or MS Windows, they will do it for you for a pretty penny.
IBM is doing a great job with Linux IMO by playing in many different fields of the Linux market. Sure they want WebSphere and DB2 on every Linux server. But if not, they would be glad to sell you the server, support and services.
IBM will have to step up to the plate to defend Linux if Microsoft goes on the patent attack.
I wouldn't depend on that, though I too hope it to be the case. The thing is, is that "we" do not know of all the agreements between MS and IBM. They could and probably do have patent deals for X number of years. Basically they agree to share patents and or not sue each other. Similar to what Sun just did with MS. So it could be the case that IBM cannot use their patents to help Linux against MS patent attacks. Though I hope that IBM will be able to do that. If IBM is not in a position to "protect" Linux from patents with patents, then you will see tons of GNU/Linux development moving to other nations. One problem with that is that the majority of the top 20 kernel developers are USA based. I don't see them moving out of the USA.
There is always the option to code around patents. But that gets difficult with the massive amount of patents plus the simple notion that there are only so many ways to skin-a-cat.
Should I go f*@king die just because I want some credit for doing something better than my opposition?
And exactly how do you know that you are doing something better then your opposition? A patent wouldn't allow your opposition to compete. It is all really childish to me. It is like a child saying, "I thought of this 1 minute before you did, so it is mine, mine mine." If what you are doing _is_ really better then your opposition, they when the need for a patent? Why not let your opposition try and out do you? In the end, that competition is what drives the economy that the US is based on. Patents have slowed that way down.
Or should I just let them get all the good ideas and go back to a bullshit IT job?
That comes down to if you think an idea can be "owned". I don't think it can. No one can tell me what I am allowed to think or know in my mind. Patents have slowed down every industry they touch. Drug companies are just big patent holders now. Imagine what medicines we might have had by now if there were no patents on a drug. People go without medicine around the world and in the US because of patents. They allow one company to charge way too much for drugs.
If 50% of all patents are thrown out in courts, that tells me there is something very wrong with patents. They are too easy to get and too broad. The problem with court is most people/compaines cannot take the finanical hit to battle a case in court. Look at MS. They are able to lock out tons of competition, not because of a superior product, but because of patents. MS doesn't have to take anyone to court. The threat of litigation with the massive costs is all that MS needs to stop most competiton against any of their products. The only companies that can give MS competiton are big companies that also have a a big patent portfolio as well.
If your company cannot comepte in the market without patents, then your company deserves to go down in flames.
I alwasy have problems with GStream under Fedora Core 2. It won't play DVD's or othere videos. When I use RythmBox (uses gstream as a backend) to play ogg/mp3 files, my CPU usage stays around 15% - 20%. If I play the same song in XMMS, mpg321, mplayer, etc, the CPU usage is always between 0% - 1%. GStreamer looks promising, but still has some ways to go for day to day usage IMO.
You don't know what Wine is. Read my previous post. Wine does not emulate at all. It is a code rewrite of the Win32 API, so to a program written for Windows, it is Windows. So, Windows programs now become GNU/Linux programs too. Though not all windows apps run under Wine Cross Over Office because Wine has not implemented 100% of the large Win32 API.
VMWare is in a totally different class. VMWare _is_ an emulator/virtual machine and will _emulate_ hardware in software.
Because no matter what, it'll only ever be "as if" it's running on linux.
Um, how is it _not_ running on Linux? Linux has many different API's (just like Windows and Mac OS X do), Wine is just another set of API's you can use to program under Linux. It is a special API because the goal of Wine is to be a 100% clone of the Win32 API that MS wrote.
You need to understand what an API is to understand that Wine is not an emulator. An API is just a set of functions, etc that a program can use to do things. For example, in MS Windows, there is a function in the Win32 API called CreateWindowEx. Your program can call this function to create a new window. Under GTK+ for Linux, there is a similar function called gtk_window_new that your program can call to create a new window. Wine is just another API under Linux and Wine has the same CreateWindowEx function that you would find under Win32.
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emulator running on Linux! So we still have no Linux iTunes. We have only emulator support for Windows version of iTunes on Linux.
Wine is an Open Source implementation of the Windows API on top of X and Unix.
Think of Wine as a Windows compatibility layer. Wine does not require Microsoft Windows, as it is a completely alternative implementation consisting of 100% Microsoft-free code, but it can optionally use native system DLLs if they are available
Then name Wine stands for Wine Is Not an Emulator. Wine does not emulate windows, it is an implementation of the Win 32 API. So iTunes running on Linux is not being emulated at all. It is running natively, though it is not using default Linux API's or traditional Linux GUI tool kits. Instead it is using Windows API's that were ported to Linux. This is no different them me writting a Windows applications using GTK+, QT or wxWindows. All three of them run on Windows, they are not the default Win32 API and they do not emulate. An API is just something you program to, a set of functions, etc that you use to make a program do something. Again, repeat after me, Wine Is Not an Emulator.
How is this AC Insightful? You see, the thing with F/OSS is that you have a chioce. If you think Gnome is bloated, use an earlier version such as Gnome 1.4, or KDE, FluxBox, BlackBox, XFCE (pretty nice and fast too), etc, etc. You think the kernel is getting bloated? Um, go and download an older one, like 2.4, 2.2 or even 2.0. Hey, you can go out and grab an old distro like RH 7.x or 6.x or Debian unstable : ). Use what you want. Exactly how is GNU/Linux going to keep up with technology with out adding "bloat". How would the Linux kernel support new hardware without adding "bloat"?
If you have written your own non-bloated kernel, OS tool chain, and desktop, please submit them to the OSS community so we can all enjoy your excellent, non-bloated work.
I guess you didn't read this article? VMWare spanks the pants off of MS Virtual PC for speed. Look at the benchmarks. Also, the latest version from MS has problems with Red Hat 9 and Fedora Core, so it is only a matter of time before MS Virtual PC only runs MS OSes. VMWare also runs on far more platforms and runs _far_ more platforms then MS Virtual PC. The broader OS support and the _far_ superior speed of VMWare makes it a no brain-er on which to pick.
And exactly jungle are you from that users have to buy music online to enjoy their new digital music player? Most of the folks I know with iPods don't buy music online.
I am sure people like you just steal the music of of P2p.
who stop by and laugh at your idiotic rants where you consistently identify yourself as fool and a chump about once a paragraph.
Hmm, I guess I have excellent karma for nothing then?
Ohh, look, I think Steve has his pants down, time to get to work fanboy.
Is the fool that employs you as a "senior Programmer" aware that you can't count? I listed 4 codec's, assuming you choose to count CBR and VNR mp3's as one codec (and lists several others on the website I included a link to).
Hey brainiac, what codec does CBR mp3 use? What codec does VBR mp3 use? Hey, they are both the mp3 codec! Wow, now that wasn't hard was it. Let me know if I am going too fast for you here, and I can slow down to your level. You listed, MP4/AAC, MP3 and WAV. Count them, 1 + 1 + 1 = 3!
the reality is that the vast majority of iPod users will enjoy their devices without ever dealing with Apple again.
And exactly how would an end user do that if they want to buy music online? Their only option with Apple is to use iTMS. The point I made and you missed (I must have used too many big words) is that at least the Real Music Store supports _ALL_ of the top 3 DRM formats including "fair" play. If you want an iPod and and _also_ want to buy music online, then your only option is to use iTMS, not much choice for an end user. Though Apple is not know for offering choice, only trying to take choice away. Though you Apple fanboys will never admit that.
UNIX is the actual operating system (which Linux has made a very powerful and capable clone of). It could be OS X, Solaris, AIX, *BSD or whatever.
The thing is, is that Max OS X and *BSD are not UNIX. If you look at that list, according to the Open Group, the only recent OSes that are _true_ Unix and allowed to be called UNIX are Sun Solaris, IBM AIX and Compaq Tru64. So if you need a true Unix, these are your only choices. However, for me and probably many others, if you need close-to-Unix, then Linux, *BSD and even Mac OS X are very, very close and will do the job very well if not better then the current _true_ UNIX system out there. I don't think that the Unix name will be that important in a few years. Linux, Mac OS X and *BSD have a name already in the IT market. What would getting Linux, Mac OS X or *BSD Unix certified do for them?
I do agree with you though about the GNU software. That is what makes a good Linux/*BSD system.
Microsoft has enough money to buy off the patent holder, either by licensing, cross-licensing, buying up all stock and closing down shop, or otherwise acquring the patent.
Huh? Do you know how much money MS has paid out for patent violations? Just recently MS lost a patent case over IE to Eolas. If MS could or would do what you suggest, why didn't they do that with Eolas? Why didn't they do that for all the other cases instead of paying out millions upon millions?
Apple wants to own the high end, and they do that by ensuring their products are high quality and stable
Apple's prices are high end, but their products are not even close high end.
The iPod supports MP4/AAC, MP3(cBR & VBR), WAV, and now even has a lossless codec. How much more do you need?
Wow, three whole codecs! Oh, and exactly what music stores do they support? Just one, their own. What great choice they are giving to end users for where they can purchase music. At least the Real Music Store now supports over 70 devices including the iPod from "fair" play DRM to Windows Media DRM or Real DRM. I personally do not purchase music on line since I wont' buy music with DRM. But at least Real gives users a real (no pun intended) choice over typical Apple who wants _everything_ to go through them.
This functionality _should_ be at a higher level then the filesystem. A filesystem should be mean-n-lean and focus on being a filesystem. However, with the new version of RieserFS coming out, it supports plugins. This would be the perfect function of a ReiserFS plugin. Maintain a history for delete/rename/undo, etc. Again, the core filesystem should never have to worry about undo type actions. It should always be at least one layer up. However, do note that the new ReiserFS coming out is an atomic filesystem. Which means that an operation either entirely occurs or is entirely does not.
it is a proprietary standard that Apple reserves the right to license to others and I see no basis for the legal system to NOT uphold this right.
Do you have any proof that Apple owns "Fair" Play? Last I read, they got it from some other company, so they may not have those rights. If Apple does have the rigth to license "Fair" play, then you are correct that they can choose who to license to. However, one is also allowed by law to reverse engineer, which Apple has no say over no matter how much they stomp their feet and cry.
Second, there is nothing illegal about reverse engineering for compatibility. Do you know what Apple uses in Mac OS X to talk to MS Windows shares? That is right, Samba, which is a reverse engineering of Microsoft's SMB protocol. Now, I am sure MS is not thrilled about Sambe or Apple using it. But they can't do anything since nothing illegal has been done. And this is no different with this case. Real, as far as I can tell, has done nothing illegal and Apple can either compete or stomp their feet and cry. I hope for Apple users they do the former.
Call, write or fax your representative and let them know how you feel about the issues. You may be surprised at the result.
Yes, once the representatives are done counting how much money big business has bribed them with (they call these "donations"), I am sure your opinion will have much weight. We can just look at the last 15 years or so and see how bad bribes from big business have bee screwing up the USA and how little these "representitives" have been representing citizens in favor of corporations and their corporat bribes.
To me the only way to fix the USA is to bring down the government and rebuild on the original constitution, or may birbes (campagin contributions) illegal from corporations and limited to the election year and limited to maybe $25,000 or so. Right now, our "representitives" are getting hundreds of millions a year in bribes
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Yes, the OSS community should all grow up like MS and spread a bunch of FUD instead. Bogus benchmarks and TCO studies are a much better way then having a funny Bill-Borg image. Then we can get a bunch of patents and fight like children in court over who thought up the multiple clicks "innovation" first.
No, you keep missing the same point. Thousands of applications avaialable to a Linux end-user in binary form. What are these "smaller" applications you talk about? Any application that is half decent is included with the major distros, or avaialable through a third party framework. You keep trying to prove a point that cannot be made. Any Linux app that is worth $1 is available as a binary. I have used Linux for many years, and for the last 4, I have not had to compile ONE application. I have compiled a few because I wanted special options (for example with Apache), but _everything_ I needed was available as a binary.
Your the FUDster mrwonton. I have 3,500+ binary packages available to me with Fedora Core 2. Devian users have somewhere around 8,000+ binary packages! Any major Linux application is available as a binary, end of story.
AMD has been kicking Intel's butt value/speed wise, but not in the corporate world. I have worked at three fortune 500 companies, and _all_ desktops and servers are Intel running Linux or Windows with some Sparc boxes. I did not see _one_ AMD box. It seems Intel has built a killer name in the corporate space and AMD has not made a dent in that. My last three home boxes have been AMD and they have all run great. I wonder why the corporate take-up of AMD has been so slow?
How about just download the new version? Or did you mean how are you supposed to know about it if you are not a geek and read it on /.? Well, go under Tools -> Options -> Advanced, you should see a section called Software Update. Firefox will check periodically for newer version, or you can click the big button labeled Check Now if you want to do it manually. So non-techie Firefox users will get a notice that there is a newer version. Wow, isn't technology great!
The letter doesn't need to go to anyone. Just signed by IBM and made publicly available. I can make a written statement that for the next 10 years I promise not to sue anyone with smelly feet and make it available to all. If I then tried to sue someone with smelly feet during that 10 year period, there would be my signed letter to use against me.
Also, IBM's global services will come in and do anything you want. You want them to build a big LAMP implementation for you? They will do it. They will try and push IBM products first, but they don't care if you want Linux, AIX or MS Windows, they will do it for you for a pretty penny.
IBM is doing a great job with Linux IMO by playing in many different fields of the Linux market. Sure they want WebSphere and DB2 on every Linux server. But if not, they would be glad to sell you the server, support and services.
There is always the option to code around patents. But that gets difficult with the massive amount of patents plus the simple notion that there are only so many ways to skin-a-cat.
If your company cannot comepte in the market without patents, then your company deserves to go down in flames.
I alwasy have problems with GStream under Fedora Core 2. It won't play DVD's or othere videos. When I use RythmBox (uses gstream as a backend) to play ogg/mp3 files, my CPU usage stays around 15% - 20%. If I play the same song in XMMS, mpg321, mplayer, etc, the CPU usage is always between 0% - 1%. GStreamer looks promising, but still has some ways to go for day to day usage IMO.
VMWare is in a totally different class. VMWare _is_ an emulator/virtual machine and will _emulate_ hardware in software.
Um, how is it _not_ running on Linux? Linux has many different API's (just like Windows and Mac OS X do), Wine is just another set of API's you can use to program under Linux. It is a special API because the goal of Wine is to be a 100% clone of the Win32 API that MS wrote.You need to understand what an API is to understand that Wine is not an emulator. An API is just a set of functions, etc that a program can use to do things. For example, in MS Windows, there is a function in the Win32 API called CreateWindowEx. Your program can call this function to create a new window. Under GTK+ for Linux, there is a similar function called gtk_window_new that your program can call to create a new window. Wine is just another API under Linux and Wine has the same CreateWindowEx function that you would find under Win32.
If you have written your own non-bloated kernel, OS tool chain, and desktop, please submit them to the OSS community so we can all enjoy your excellent, non-bloated work.
I guess you didn't read this article? VMWare spanks the pants off of MS Virtual PC for speed. Look at the benchmarks. Also, the latest version from MS has problems with Red Hat 9 and Fedora Core, so it is only a matter of time before MS Virtual PC only runs MS OSes. VMWare also runs on far more platforms and runs _far_ more platforms then MS Virtual PC. The broader OS support and the _far_ superior speed of VMWare makes it a no brain-er on which to pick.
I do agree with you though about the GNU software. That is what makes a good Linux/*BSD system.
This functionality _should_ be at a higher level then the filesystem. A filesystem should be mean-n-lean and focus on being a filesystem. However, with the new version of RieserFS coming out, it supports plugins. This would be the perfect function of a ReiserFS plugin. Maintain a history for delete/rename/undo, etc. Again, the core filesystem should never have to worry about undo type actions. It should always be at least one layer up. However, do note that the new ReiserFS coming out is an atomic filesystem. Which means that an operation either entirely occurs or is entirely does not.
Second, there is nothing illegal about reverse engineering for compatibility. Do you know what Apple uses in Mac OS X to talk to MS Windows shares? That is right, Samba, which is a reverse engineering of Microsoft's SMB protocol. Now, I am sure MS is not thrilled about Sambe or Apple using it. But they can't do anything since nothing illegal has been done. And this is no different with this case. Real, as far as I can tell, has done nothing illegal and Apple can either compete or stomp their feet and cry. I hope for Apple users they do the former.
To me the only way to fix the USA is to bring down the government and rebuild on the original constitution, or may birbes (campagin contributions) illegal from corporations and limited to the election year and limited to maybe $25,000 or so. Right now, our "representitives" are getting hundreds of millions a year in bribes