I thought that too. But I don't think that planet had a name. It was just planet #2 of the M-344/G system. (Yes, I'm a nerd)
But in any case, I think by "Tatooine like" he means any planet with 2 or more suns, so Tatooine is just fine. Even tho the first example actually found has three.
You didn't see the clip did you? Jay Leno introduced the "teenager" as Ben Cook, the Countries fastest text messenger. A little googling gives us this:
"King of SMS. In November 2004, a seventeen-year-old from Utah became the world's text messaging champion. Ben Cook typed his way into the Guinness World Book of Records by using his cell phone to type 160 characters in just 57.75 seconds. The message was: "The razor-toothed piranhas of the genera Serrasalmus and Pygocentrus are the most ferocious freshwater fish in the world. In reality they seldom attack a human."
And as others have pointed out that the morse code team were just a couple of hams. Not the fastest in anything.
Also, somehow I doubt that the world reigning champion of text messaging would use a "a cheap cell phone". He would use the best he could get. Most likely the same he used to get into the guiness book of world records.
Yes it was unscientific, but the SMS side had the best that could be offered.
Nope, you were clear. Unfortunately, what is also clear is that MS doesn't have our collective environment at heart.
They tried to get a standard in place that could not be implemented with open source. There's restrictive liscensing and I think a patent as well. This is a move to benefit their Server bussiness to the detriment of Open Source Mail servers everywhere.
Since they wouldn't drop the resreictions against open source, the initiative was refused. So now they are going to use their marketing muscle to force it down our throughts as a defacto standard anyways.
Microsofts gesture could be characterized more as a middle finger than an olive branch.
Yeah, he blew the description by getting all Alex Chiuy on us.
30 second version.
Einstein postulated that the speed of light is the same for all oberservers. With this and the Pythagorean formula you can find the time dialation.
Dude sits in a box that has a device that emits a single photon from the floor towards the top. From his perspective the box is C*Tdude in height. Speed-o-light times the time it took for a single photon to travel from the bottom to the top of the box as mesured by the dudes clock. (consider this to be the verticle part of a right triangle).
Another dude (outside the box) sees this box fly by horizontaly at speed V. He notes the same photon and also notes the horizontal distance traveled by the box during the photons transit from floor to roof. Consider this to be the horizontal (base) of the right triangle. So the length of the base is V*Tobsvr. Where Tobsvr is the time messured by the Observer.
To the outside observer the path taken by the photon is a diagnol. Consider this to be the Hypotenuese (sp?) of our right triangle. Its length is C*Tobsvr. Again Speed-o-light times that time to make the trip as seen by the observer.
This factor is (I think) called the gamma factor and pops up everywhere in relativity.
So there you have it. Velocity slows time. And no trig was used.
When v=0 the paths are the same so the times are the same.
When V is approx C then the gamma factor is approx 0. So no matter how much time passes for the observer, the dude experiences approx no time.
I think it was Carl Sagan who said that if the greeks had only known that the speed of light was constant, that maybe we would have had the theory of relativity over two thousand years ago.
Even with exceptions, the definition of species does cover the core of the issues.
Give me an airtight definition of "Human" or "self aware". How about the basic "Alive".
Just because a virus isn't technically 'alive' by some definitions and 'is alive' by others doesn't mean that we have no concrete definition of 'alive'. Or would you now consider 'alive' to be arbitrary term with no meaning.
Since 'dead' is usually interpreted to mean 'no longer alive'. It to now becomes an arbitrary term with no meaning?
Nit picking aside, 'It's alive' or even 'It's dead, Jim' are both clear in their meaning and intent.
ps. I'm not defending ID, I was just commenting on the term 'species'.
I could answer each point but it wouldn't mean anything. Suffice it to say that you are right in your assessment that I think god is evil and petty.
If you read a story were a human being did all these things, you would think him psychopathic, egomaniacle, etc. BUT because its God, he gets to be interpreted, his actions must have a deeper purpose.
Thats what I think is amusing. It's like a murderers devoted mother on TV. He is such a good boy, you misunderstand. him. He was only trying to help those people. Besides, they probably deserved it, they were only hookers.
Lots of references to examples of each in the article, if you want them.
Gene duplication, polyploidy, insertions, etc., do not help explain evolution.
No, they only are mechanisms that allow natural selection to take place.
With only one copy of the your genetic code, get a point source mutation in the wrong spot and you die. Progress is slow. With gene duplication nature gets to play around with new things and still keep the old ones funtional. Mix in a couple of billion years and you have what you see around you.
HP is now headed by Mike Hurd. He'll be trying to get HP in better shape after the raping it went through with Fiorina.
Maybe it's coincidence, or maybe not, but by using Europe, Middle East, Africa as a proving ground to get a stable linux version on their laptops, they could use it as a barganing chip against MS to get a better deal for MS OSs.
If MS gives in, the HP-Ubuntu option stays in EMEA, otherwise it goes global. HP giving such legitimacy would be a nightmare to MS.
Even if it wasn't intentional, I bet MS would sweeten it's deal with HP just to limit it's effect in any case.
No. For the example, it wasn't.
The example would still work with an asexual creature that had identicle genetic makeup through out its population. It would just take far longer than normal because it would need true mutations.
Your point does not stand.
This is because of sex and the mixing of genes. Allows for rapid trial of different genetic combinations. Thats why evolution was so slow (and boring) prior to the invention of sex.
The adaption to more extreme environments would happen with asexual reprodution as well, but it would require true mutations. And hence would take much longer.
3. Archaic Interest charged or paid on a loan.
God wants you to load money and charge interest. I thought that was clear.
This is how you "reap what you have not sowed"
What have I missed?
Strange, I've always considered it simple minded to think an omniscent, all powerful god would automatically be a good one.
Or is it truely beyond your ken to imagine a god that perhaps was petty, egotistical, ruthless, and vengeful.
Try it. What would such a god be like. Would he get upset one day and decide to wipe out a city because they weren't listening to him? Would he force a people to wander for 40 years and waste their lives because they did something he didn't like. Or maybe slaughter the males of a city so that the women and children to be sold into slavery for the profit of his "chosen" people? Maybe he would order a father to kill his own child just to see if he would do it, even though he was omnicent and already knew anyways (haha, always a kidder that god). Or maybe he would wipe out every living thing except for a lucky few, just because he didn't like the way things turned out.
Amusingly enough, the bible would seem to support that description.
Just because such a god need not follow our moral tenents does not mean we wouldn't have the words to describe him.
True, killing is not always wrong. God allows for the killing of slaves and children as long as they are your own. So god does seem to have a sense of property. I guess thats a plus.
Do not be too surprised. Left to religion, slavery would still be here today. The bible is inherently pro-slavery because it was written during a time were slavery was as integral to the economy as breathing is to life.
To me, the endoresment of slavery and the debasement of women is the bibles greatest achilies heel. Because according to the the Good Book, slavery is a "good thing" (tm).
Jesus didn't have a problem with slavery. Pretty much his only advice on the matter was "Don't beat on them too hard".
But God is very hip when it comes to slavery. He even gives a loop hole so that you can murder a slave. (#20-21) and gives extra rules for you to follow when you sell your daughters into slavery. #7
1
1 "These are the rules you shall lay before them. 2
When you purchase a Hebrew slave, he is to serve you for six years, but in the seventh year he shall be given his freedom without cost. 3
If he comes into service alone, he shall leave alone; if he comes with a wife, his wife shall leave with him. 4
But if his master gives him a wife and she bears him sons or daughters, the woman and her children shall remain the master's property and the man shall leave alone. 5
If, however, the slave declares, 'I am devoted to my master and my wife and children; I will not go free,' 6
2 his master shall bring him to God and there, at the door or doorpost, he shall pierce his ear with an awl, thus keeping him as his slave forever. 7
"When a man sells his daughter as a slave, she shall not go free as male slaves do. 8
3 But if her master, who had destined her for himself, dislikes her, he shall let her be redeemed. He has no right to sell her to a foreigner, since he has broken faith with her. 9
If he destines her for his son, he shall treat her like a daughter. 10
If he takes another wife, he shall not withhold her food, her clothing, or her conjugal rights. 11
If he does not grant her these three things, she shall be given her freedom absolutely, without cost to her. 12
"Whoever strikes a man a mortal blow must be put to death. 13
He, however, who did not hunt a man down, but caused his death by an act of God, may flee to a place which I will set apart for this purpose. 14
But when a man kills another after maliciously scheming to do so, you must take him even from my altar and put him to death. 15
Whoever strikes his father or mother shall be put to death. 16
"A kidnaper, whether he sells his victim or still has him when caught, shall be put to death. 17
"Whoever curses his father or mother shall be put to death. 18
"When men quarrel and one strikes the other with a stone or with his fist, not mortally, but enough to put him in bed, 19
the one who struck the blow shall be acquitted, provided the other can get up and walk around with the help of his staff. Still, he must compensate him for his enforced idleness and provide for his complete cure. 20
"When a man strikes his male or female slave with a rod so hard that the slave dies under his hand, he shall be punished. 21
If, however, the slave survives for a day or two, he is not to be punished, since the slave is his own property. 22
"When men have a fight and hurt a pregnant woman, so that she suffers a miscarriage, but no further injury, the guilty one shall be fined as much as the woman's husband demands of him, and he shall pay in the presence of the judges. 23
4 But if injury ensues, you shall give life for life, 24
eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot, 25
burn for burn, wound for wound, stripe for stripe. 26
"When a
We'll, I agree about the phylum, genus thingy. But species is verifiable.
Species. Biology
a. A fundamental category of taxonomic classification, ranking below a genus or subgenus and consisting of related organisms capable of interbreeding
ie. One can screw a sheep, but one can't get it pregnant. This is because humans and sheep are different "species".
"Natural selection is an ELIMINATOR. In other words, if there are two variations of a creature, the theory goes that natural selection chooses the "fittest" or "best", and allows the "unfittest" or "weakest" to become extinct."
In which case, there must be a large number of varieties to select from. Which is where mutations come in. Up to here, we should be in agreement. If not, tell me where I'm off base.
You're off-base.
Imagine the entire planet is populated with a single variety of grass. This grass only grows in certain climates. The grass speads as grass will do and the grass keeps dying at the boundries of it's prefered climate. Mutations come and go and one day a hardier grass manages to get a foot hold upon a mountain. The weather is colder and the soil rockier but after 10's of thousands of generations a beneficial mutation allows this mutant grass to spread upon the previously inhospitable areas.
Near a dry plain a different mutation eventually allows the grass to spread upon a drier hotter climate. In time these grasses, seperated by distance and climate, become different species. Each specialized for its own particular environment.
That is natural selection in action. And note, it is from a single species.
Natural selection is not a species ELIMINATOR. It is rather a bad-mutation filter.
The argument used by that website only works with a naive and limited view of natural selection.
"27Thou oughtest therefore to have put my money to the exchangers, and then at my coming I should have received mine own with usury"
You cant get clearer than that. It isn't praising skills or intelligence. It is teaching that hording money is "wicked" and "slothful". and that the proper thing to do is give it to the "exchangers" and get some "usury".
usury Pronunciation (yzh-r) n. pl. usuries 1. The practice of lending money and charging the borrower interest, especially at an exorbitant or illegally high rate. 2. An excessive or illegally high rate of interest charged on borrowed money. 3. Archaic Interest charged or paid on a loan.
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I thought that too. But I don't think that planet had a name. It was just planet #2 of the M-344/G system. (Yes, I'm a nerd)
But in any case, I think by "Tatooine like" he means any planet with 2 or more suns, so Tatooine is just fine. Even tho the first example actually found has three.
Ahh, My mistake. Thank you.
There are more people alive right now than have ever lived in the entire history of man kind. We are the ultimate renewable resource.
Thus, there is a net O2 gain in the atmosphere.
No, Burning wood consumes O2. Lots of it. As far as the atmosphere is concerned its a total loss.
This guys formula says it all:
12CO2 + 6H20 = 2C6O6H6 + 9O2
"King of SMS. In November 2004, a seventeen-year-old from Utah became the world's text messaging champion. Ben Cook typed his way into the Guinness World Book of Records by using his cell phone to type 160 characters in just 57.75 seconds. The message was: "The razor-toothed piranhas of the genera Serrasalmus and Pygocentrus are the most ferocious freshwater fish in the world. In reality they seldom attack a human."
And as others have pointed out that the morse code team were just a couple of hams. Not the fastest in anything.
Also, somehow I doubt that the world reigning champion of text messaging would use a "a cheap cell phone". He would use the best he could get. Most likely the same he used to get into the guiness book of world records.
Yes it was unscientific, but the SMS side had the best that could be offered.
It does look like 790!
http://www.20bvert.com/media/TBAfter1.jpg
Whats the status of the upgrade? Logs look dead.
//Why migrate? Leave em both in.
import java.applet.Applet;
import java.awt.Graphics;
public class ItsBoth extends Applet {
String message = "";
public void paint(Graphics g) {
g.drawString(message, 50, 25);
}
public init() {
message="It's a floor wax!";
}
public static void main(String[] args) {
System.out.println("It's a Dessert Topping!");
}
}
The AC is either trollong or just doesn't understand the difference between server side and client side java.
Absolutely Beautiful! You have my vote.
Nope, you were clear. Unfortunately, what is also clear is that MS doesn't have our collective environment at heart.
They tried to get a standard in place that could not be implemented with open source. There's restrictive liscensing and I think a patent as well. This is a move to benefit their Server bussiness to the detriment of Open Source Mail servers everywhere.
Since they wouldn't drop the resreictions against open source, the initiative was refused. So now they are going to use their marketing muscle to force it down our throughts as a defacto standard anyways.
Microsofts gesture could be characterized more as a middle finger than an olive branch.
Yeah, he blew the description by getting all Alex Chiuy on us.
30 second version.
Einstein postulated that the speed of light is the same for all oberservers. With this and the Pythagorean formula you can find the time dialation.
Dude sits in a box that has a device that emits a single photon from the floor towards the top. From his perspective the box is C*Tdude in height. Speed-o-light times the time it took for a single photon to travel from the bottom to the top of the box as mesured by the dudes clock. (consider this to be the verticle part of a right triangle).
Another dude (outside the box) sees this box fly by horizontaly at speed V. He notes the same photon and also notes the horizontal distance traveled by the box during the photons transit from floor to roof. Consider this to be the horizontal (base) of the right triangle. So the length of the base is V*Tobsvr. Where Tobsvr is the time messured by the Observer.
To the outside observer the path taken by the photon is a diagnol. Consider this to be the Hypotenuese (sp?) of our right triangle. Its length is C*Tobsvr. Again Speed-o-light times that time to make the trip as seen by the observer.
Pythagorean Theorm:
(C*Tdude)^2 + (V*Tobsvr)^2 = (C*Tobsvr)^2
Solve for Tdude:
Tdude = sqrt(1-v^2/c^2)*Tobsvr
This factor is (I think) called the gamma factor and pops up everywhere in relativity.
So there you have it. Velocity slows time. And no trig was used.
When v=0 the paths are the same so the times are the same.
When V is approx C then the gamma factor is approx 0. So no matter how much time passes for the observer, the dude experiences approx no time.
I think it was Carl Sagan who said that if the greeks had only known that the speed of light was constant, that maybe we would have had the theory of relativity over two thousand years ago.
Neat thought.
Give me an airtight definition of "Human" or "self aware". How about the basic "Alive".
Just because a virus isn't technically 'alive' by some definitions and 'is alive' by others doesn't mean that we have no concrete definition of 'alive'. Or would you now consider 'alive' to be arbitrary term with no meaning.
Since 'dead' is usually interpreted to mean 'no longer alive'. It to now becomes an arbitrary term with no meaning?
Nit picking aside, 'It's alive' or even 'It's dead, Jim' are both clear in their meaning and intent.
ps. I'm not defending ID, I was just commenting on the term 'species'.
If you read a story were a human being did all these things, you would think him psychopathic, egomaniacle, etc. BUT because its God, he gets to be interpreted, his actions must have a deeper purpose.
Thats what I think is amusing. It's like a murderers devoted mother on TV. He is such a good boy, you misunderstand. him. He was only trying to help those people. Besides, they probably deserved it, they were only hookers.
right..
Yes there is. Lots of it. Enough so that they've catalogued the three types of genetic alteration that can confer resistance.
point source, mosaic, and transposon
Read up on it here. http://info.bio.cmu.edu/Courses/03441/TermPapers/2 000TermPapers/group2/evol-mech.html#fig4ref
Lots of references to examples of each in the article, if you want them.
Gene duplication, polyploidy, insertions, etc., do not help explain evolution.
No, they only are mechanisms that allow natural selection to take place.
With only one copy of the your genetic code, get a point source mutation in the wrong spot and you die. Progress is slow. With gene duplication nature gets to play around with new things and still keep the old ones funtional. Mix in a couple of billion years and you have what you see around you.
HP is now headed by Mike Hurd. He'll be trying to get HP in better shape after the raping it went through with Fiorina.
Maybe it's coincidence, or maybe not, but by using Europe, Middle East, Africa as a proving ground to get a stable linux version on their laptops, they could use it as a barganing chip against MS to get a better deal for MS OSs.
If MS gives in, the HP-Ubuntu option stays in EMEA, otherwise it goes global. HP giving such legitimacy would be a nightmare to MS.
Even if it wasn't intentional, I bet MS would sweeten it's deal with HP just to limit it's effect in any case.
Sounds like you've got a bigger beef with Carly Fiorina, rather than this guy.
No. For the example, it wasn't. The example would still work with an asexual creature that had identicle genetic makeup through out its population. It would just take far longer than normal because it would need true mutations. Your point does not stand.
This is because of sex and the mixing of genes. Allows for rapid trial of different genetic combinations. Thats why evolution was so slow (and boring) prior to the invention of sex.
The adaption to more extreme environments would happen with asexual reprodution as well, but it would require true mutations. And hence would take much longer.
3. Archaic Interest charged or paid on a loan. God wants you to load money and charge interest. I thought that was clear. This is how you "reap what you have not sowed" What have I missed?
Strange, I've always considered it simple minded to think an omniscent, all powerful god would automatically be a good one.
Or is it truely beyond your ken to imagine a god that perhaps was petty, egotistical, ruthless, and vengeful.
Try it. What would such a god be like. Would he get upset one day and decide to wipe out a city because they weren't listening to him? Would he force a people to wander for 40 years and waste their lives because they did something he didn't like. Or maybe slaughter the males of a city so that the women and children to be sold into slavery for the profit of his "chosen" people? Maybe he would order a father to kill his own child just to see if he would do it, even though he was omnicent and already knew anyways (haha, always a kidder that god). Or maybe he would wipe out every living thing except for a lucky few, just because he didn't like the way things turned out.
Amusingly enough, the bible would seem to support that description.
Just because such a god need not follow our moral tenents does not mean we wouldn't have the words to describe him.
True, killing is not always wrong. God allows for the killing of slaves and children as long as they are your own. So god does seem to have a sense of property. I guess thats a plus.
Do not be too surprised. Left to religion, slavery would still be here today. The bible is inherently pro-slavery because it was written during a time were slavery was as integral to the economy as breathing is to life.
To me, the endoresment of slavery and the debasement of women is the bibles greatest achilies heel. Because according to the the Good Book, slavery is a "good thing" (tm).
Jesus didn't have a problem with slavery. Pretty much his only advice on the matter was "Don't beat on them too hard".
But God is very hip when it comes to slavery. He even gives a loop hole so that you can murder a slave. (#20-21) and gives extra rules for you to follow when you sell your daughters into slavery. #7
A good treatise which gives a greater coverage of the bibles/Gods endorsement of slavery is here:
http://home.inu.net/skeptic/slavery.html
Here's Exodus 21:
1
1 "These are the rules you shall lay before them.
2
When you purchase a Hebrew slave, he is to serve you for six years, but in the seventh year he shall be given his freedom without cost.
3
If he comes into service alone, he shall leave alone; if he comes with a wife, his wife shall leave with him.
4
But if his master gives him a wife and she bears him sons or daughters, the woman and her children shall remain the master's property and the man shall leave alone.
5
If, however, the slave declares, 'I am devoted to my master and my wife and children; I will not go free,'
6
2 his master shall bring him to God and there, at the door or doorpost, he shall pierce his ear with an awl, thus keeping him as his slave forever.
7
"When a man sells his daughter as a slave, she shall not go free as male slaves do.
8
3 But if her master, who had destined her for himself, dislikes her, he shall let her be redeemed. He has no right to sell her to a foreigner, since he has broken faith with her.
9
If he destines her for his son, he shall treat her like a daughter.
10
If he takes another wife, he shall not withhold her food, her clothing, or her conjugal rights.
11
If he does not grant her these three things, she shall be given her freedom absolutely, without cost to her.
12
"Whoever strikes a man a mortal blow must be put to death.
13
He, however, who did not hunt a man down, but caused his death by an act of God, may flee to a place which I will set apart for this purpose.
14
But when a man kills another after maliciously scheming to do so, you must take him even from my altar and put him to death.
15
Whoever strikes his father or mother shall be put to death.
16
"A kidnaper, whether he sells his victim or still has him when caught, shall be put to death.
17
"Whoever curses his father or mother shall be put to death.
18
"When men quarrel and one strikes the other with a stone or with his fist, not mortally, but enough to put him in bed,
19
the one who struck the blow shall be acquitted, provided the other can get up and walk around with the help of his staff. Still, he must compensate him for his enforced idleness and provide for his complete cure.
20
"When a man strikes his male or female slave with a rod so hard that the slave dies under his hand, he shall be punished.
21
If, however, the slave survives for a day or two, he is not to be punished, since the slave is his own property.
22
"When men have a fight and hurt a pregnant woman, so that she suffers a miscarriage, but no further injury, the guilty one shall be fined as much as the woman's husband demands of him, and he shall pay in the presence of the judges.
23
4 But if injury ensues, you shall give life for life,
24
eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot,
25
burn for burn, wound for wound, stripe for stripe.
26
"When a
Species. Biology a. A fundamental category of taxonomic classification, ranking below a genus or subgenus and consisting of related organisms capable of interbreeding
ie. One can screw a sheep, but one can't get it pregnant. This is because humans and sheep are different "species".
In which case, there must be a large number of varieties to select from. Which is where mutations come in. Up to here, we should be in agreement. If not, tell me where I'm off base.
You're off-base.
Imagine the entire planet is populated with a single variety of grass. This grass only grows in certain climates. The grass speads as grass will do and the grass keeps dying at the boundries of it's prefered climate. Mutations come and go and one day a hardier grass manages to get a foot hold upon a mountain. The weather is colder and the soil rockier but after 10's of thousands of generations a beneficial mutation allows this mutant grass to spread upon the previously inhospitable areas.
Near a dry plain a different mutation eventually allows the grass to spread upon a drier hotter climate. In time these grasses, seperated by distance and climate, become different species. Each specialized for its own particular environment.
That is natural selection in action. And note, it is from a single species.
Natural selection is not a species ELIMINATOR. It is rather a bad-mutation filter.
The argument used by that website only works with a naive and limited view of natural selection.
From Mathew 25:
"27Thou oughtest therefore to have put my money to the exchangers, and then at my coming I should have received mine own with usury"
You cant get clearer than that. It isn't praising skills or intelligence. It is teaching that hording money is "wicked" and "slothful". and that the proper thing to do is give it to the "exchangers" and get some "usury".
usury Pronunciation (yzh-r)
n. pl. usuries
1. The practice of lending money and charging the borrower interest, especially at an exorbitant or illegally high rate.
2. An excessive or illegally high rate of interest charged on borrowed money.
3. Archaic Interest charged or paid on a loan.
No, because defiance is justified when subservience will result in something morally wrong.
A god that would order me to kill a loved one is not a god that deserves loyalty.