That doesn't mean you throw common sense out the door. You've got a convicted sex offender who has a laptop with encrypted files on it. Yeah..BIG red flags.
Now I can see the point that they should have been able to get a warrant. Police do it all the time when they pull a car over and and a reasonable suspicion of criminal activity.
No, by your analogy, you would be writing the software just as you would be building the car. Not simply making a copy of it.
Most people don't make Porches because they don't have the mechanical talent or the money to buy the parts. Likewise most people are going to be content to buy a game, not try and recreate it.
Exactly. And that's not counting the pirate signals that broadcast things like major cable news stations that aren't on NetFlix or Hulu.
We also gave up satellite several years back when I was between jobs and having to work a lot of contract. It was an extra $60/month we just couldn't afford. Plus a lot of the channels that caused me to subscribed have been dumbed down to the point of not even being the original programs. Animal planet is running ghost stories. TruTV used to be CourtTV and now it's running more and more repo reality or "Jackass" type shows. And we all know what happened to TechTV.
Don't forget the original reason we were marketed cable is so we could watch commercial-free programming! That didn't last long.
These providers are going to get run down by Netflix, Hulu, et. al. I think if they let you subscribe to the channels you want, without all the 90% noise you don't watch, it could be viable, especially for news/live events. But with the ability to not only watch what you want WHEN you want, they're losing ground fast. The business needs to switch from a push technology to a pull one if they expect to be around in 10 years.
I take it, then, that if I'm hungry I'm free to go to your house and steal the food off your fridge?
Thought so.
I guess I should have quoted the silly line one made about a student choosing between ramen noodles and a DVD. If you're living off ramen noodles, you can't AFFORD a DVD. That doesn't then give you the right download it illegally.
Except if that owner gets paid by the number of copies sold. Then, yes you are depriving the creator of sales.
That's my point, everyone want's to say..."No harm done, I didn't take anything, I just copied it." Well, yeah, but the owner get's paid by the number of copies. And unfortunately, most of the owners when you're talking writers, singers, etc. get paid little enough as it is!
I think the problem is most people see the big corporations which publish the item, not the guy behind the creation.
We're not talking FOOD here people or shelter or even lifesaving drugs. What's being debated is not a need but a want.
Warning..car analogy.... I can't afford a Porsche, but does that mean I have a right to take one?
If people stop buying something because it's too expensive, the maker either figures out how to make it cheaper or they go out of business. I'm not in love with the RIAA or MIAA because they're idiots who wasted time trying to shut down a perfectly good opportunity for years. TV Cable is now doing the same thing: Instead of realizing there is a market to see individual channels without all the crap ones, they're running around trying to shut down pirate signals.
But to turn around and blame the creator or those marketing the creation as being their fault that people are pirating is just BS. I mean lets just call it as it is. People want something for free, they justify it in their minds that it's not really stealing or hurting anyone, or that they deserve it, and they take it. Doesn't matter if you're rich or poor, from a developing nation or the richest one. I suspect a LOT of those practicing this are not the poorest people...after all they have a computer to run it on.
Steal or don't steal, but don't try to clean it up or blame the company you're taking it from.
But is anyone even using these sites. How many of you never even heard of these sites until reading this article? And why do they need several sites--wouldn't one site suffice?
Yes that's funny, but true too. I probably won't get a tablet until:
1) You can print to a wifi printer (I think some apps are starting to get there.) 2) You can attach a keyboard, preferably one that folds or rolls up. I can't see having to answer emails trying to type on that screen. My ColorNook has one of those on-screen keyboards and its the one thing I hate about it. 3) It costs significantly less than a comparable laptop. Other than weight (and the temporary coolness factor) why spend the same amount as you would on a really good (we're talking quad-core) laptop that can already do all the aforementioned? And you don't have to keep wiping the screen free of smudgy fingerprints.
And they were LAST to come out with the kinect after Wii and Sony already had theirs.
Windows = came out of after Apple (which, yes, came out after Xerox). IE Browser = came out after Netscape. Remember they thought the internet was a fad.
But don't worry, they'll just buy out a company with the technology when they find they're behind again. (I don't think they will be able to squash this with the android and other operating systems running phones and other devices.)
I think the problem with netbooks was they all seemed to require a 2 year internet subscription, so while the netbook was cheap, the 2 years worth of G3 fees (or whatever was bundled) added up.
Actually there is a way to predict an increase in your chances of having gall stones.
It's called the five F's
Forty - over forty Fat - overweight Female - your gender Fertility - if you've had children Family - if it runs in your family
The more of these conditions you meet, the more likely you'll get gall stones. With the exception of the weight there's not much you can do.
But where we disagree:
So why should she be financially punished for something there was no way to predict, or prevent?
Yeah and why am I punished for having to shell out $1,400 to have a new hot water heater put in when mine broke? It's called shit happens. Some of us will get one thing, some another. There's almost no one comes out without having some health issue unless you just drop dead.
Getting a fake name. This really bugs the hell out of me. Don't come on with a thick-as-fuck accent and then claim your name is "Jim" or "Bob" or "Susan." We know you're lying to us and as a customer, once you lie to me and I catch you in it, I'm going to assume you may be lying about anything else you say.
I find it highly ironic that M$ has no problem using countries that commit the highest amount of piracy, i.e., China and India for LABOR, but wants to come back and sue a party NOT actually involved in the piracy of their product. Are they upset that other corporations are getting all the best slave labor?
And could we turn and sue Microsoft on the basis that they computers THEY use were likely manufactured by an Asian company that uses pirated software (of any type)? Because I'll bet 98% of ANYTHING manufactured in China and a large percentage in other Asian countries fits under that umbrella.
The short answer is: Because communism has already been tried and it doesn't work.
In a longer answer: Human beings, more or less, have the drive to get ahead. Call it evolution. Call it basic human laziness. Because sure enough you'll be working your ass off and then turn around and wonder, "Why am I working MY ass of when I'm just going to get the same amount of food and supplies as my neighbor? And my neighbor is a slug who's sits around watching TV all day?" And pretty soon almost no one is producing because there is no incentive to do so and up crop the breadlines and only those in the black market get ahead.
And even if you decide to just drop out and grow your own food or fish for your dinner, the state/federal government wills still want to tax you for whatever they feel you owe. That didn't go away under communism either. Because taxes are the only way the nanny state can keep supporting the slugs watching TV all day.
Hidayat Sudirman, a 25 year old civil servant from Singapore, bought a 14-inch Asus laptop from a stand at his local IT fair on the understanding that it was a brand-new device. When he got it home, however, it appeared not to be the case.
So he didn't buy this at a store or from Dell/HP/whatever. He bought it at an IT fair in Singapore and they LIED and said it was new?
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That doesn't mean you throw common sense out the door. You've got a convicted sex offender who has a laptop with encrypted files on it. Yeah..BIG red flags.
Now I can see the point that they should have been able to get a warrant. Police do it all the time when they pull a car over and and a reasonable suspicion of criminal activity.
Replace 'sex offender' with the word 'jew' and try to repeat your statement without sounding like a Nazi. Go on, I dare you.
Except that there's a big difference in being a convicted criminal vs. an ethic or religious class. Or there should be.
No, by your analogy, you would be writing the software just as you would be building the car. Not simply making a copy of it.
Most people don't make Porches because they don't have the mechanical talent or the money to buy the parts. Likewise most people are going to be content to buy a game, not try and recreate it.
Exactly. And that's not counting the pirate signals that broadcast things like major cable news stations that aren't on NetFlix or Hulu.
We also gave up satellite several years back when I was between jobs and having to work a lot of contract. It was an extra $60/month we just couldn't afford. Plus a lot of the channels that caused me to subscribed have been dumbed down to the point of not even being the original programs. Animal planet is running ghost stories. TruTV used to be CourtTV and now it's running more and more repo reality or "Jackass" type shows. And we all know what happened to TechTV.
Don't forget the original reason we were marketed cable is so we could watch commercial-free programming! That didn't last long.
These providers are going to get run down by Netflix, Hulu, et. al. I think if they let you subscribe to the channels you want, without all the 90% noise you don't watch, it could be viable, especially for news/live events. But with the ability to not only watch what you want WHEN you want, they're losing ground fast. The business needs to switch from a push technology to a pull one if they expect to be around in 10 years.
I take it, then, that if I'm hungry I'm free to go to your house and steal the food off your fridge?
Thought so.
I guess I should have quoted the silly line one made about a student choosing between ramen noodles and a DVD. If you're living off ramen noodles, you can't AFFORD a DVD. That doesn't then give you the right download it illegally.
Actually, no it's not. Neither is it illegal or immoral to take one car and rebuild it, add a new engine, etc.
Except if that owner gets paid by the number of copies sold. Then, yes you are depriving the creator of sales.
That's my point, everyone want's to say..."No harm done, I didn't take anything, I just copied it." Well, yeah, but the owner get's paid by the number of copies. And unfortunately, most of the owners when you're talking writers, singers, etc. get paid little enough as it is!
I think the problem is most people see the big corporations which publish the item, not the guy behind the creation.
We're not talking FOOD here people or shelter or even lifesaving drugs. What's being debated is not a need but a want.
Warning..car analogy....
I can't afford a Porsche, but does that mean I have a right to take one?
If people stop buying something because it's too expensive, the maker either figures out how to make it cheaper or they go out of business. I'm not in love with the RIAA or MIAA because they're idiots who wasted time trying to shut down a perfectly good opportunity for years. TV Cable is now doing the same thing: Instead of realizing there is a market to see individual channels without all the crap ones, they're running around trying to shut down pirate signals.
But to turn around and blame the creator or those marketing the creation as being their fault that people are pirating is just BS. I mean lets just call it as it is. People want something for free, they justify it in their minds that it's not really stealing or hurting anyone, or that they deserve it, and they take it. Doesn't matter if you're rich or poor, from a developing nation or the richest one. I suspect a LOT of those practicing this are not the poorest people...after all they have a computer to run it on.
Steal or don't steal, but don't try to clean it up or blame the company you're taking it from.
The bad news it makes your dick shrink.
But is anyone even using these sites. How many of you never even heard of these sites until reading this article? And why do they need several sites--wouldn't one site suffice?
Actually BT would be fine. I meant "attach" as in connect, not in that it needs to be a physical vs. wireless connection.
Yes that's funny, but true too. I probably won't get a tablet until:
1) You can print to a wifi printer (I think some apps are starting to get there.)
2) You can attach a keyboard, preferably one that folds or rolls up. I can't see having to answer emails trying to type on that screen. My ColorNook has one of those on-screen keyboards and its the one thing I hate about it.
3) It costs significantly less than a comparable laptop. Other than weight (and the temporary coolness factor) why spend the same amount as you would on a really good (we're talking quad-core) laptop that can already do all the aforementioned? And you don't have to keep wiping the screen free of smudgy fingerprints.
And they were LAST to come out with the kinect after Wii and Sony already had theirs.
Windows = came out of after Apple (which, yes, came out after Xerox).
IE Browser = came out after Netscape. Remember they thought the internet was a fad.
But don't worry, they'll just buy out a company with the technology when they find they're behind again. (I don't think they will be able to squash this with the android and other operating systems running phones and other devices.)
No innovation going on in Redmond.
I think the problem with netbooks was they all seemed to require a 2 year internet subscription, so while the netbook was cheap, the 2 years worth of G3 fees (or whatever was bundled) added up.
Actually there is a way to predict an increase in your chances of having gall stones.
It's called the five F's
Forty - over forty
Fat - overweight
Female - your gender
Fertility - if you've had children
Family - if it runs in your family
The more of these conditions you meet, the more likely you'll get gall stones. With the exception of the weight there's not much you can do.
But where we disagree:
So why should she be financially punished for something there was no way to predict, or prevent?
Yeah and why am I punished for having to shell out $1,400 to have a new hot water heater put in when mine broke? It's called shit happens. Some of us will get one thing, some another. There's almost no one comes out without having some health issue unless you just drop dead.
Getting a fake name. This really bugs the hell out of me. Don't come on with a thick-as-fuck accent and then claim your name is "Jim" or "Bob" or "Susan." We know you're lying to us and as a customer, once you lie to me and I catch you in it, I'm going to assume you may be lying about anything else you say.
Obligatory: My name is Peggy... ;-)
I find it highly ironic that M$ has no problem using countries that commit the highest amount of piracy, i.e., China and India for LABOR, but wants to come back and sue a party NOT actually involved in the piracy of their product. Are they upset that other corporations are getting all the best slave labor?
And could we turn and sue Microsoft on the basis that they computers THEY use were likely manufactured by an Asian company that uses pirated software (of any type)? Because I'll bet 98% of ANYTHING manufactured in China and a large percentage in other Asian countries fits under that umbrella.
Well...being that we've given up on the space program we might as well go to hell....
Maybe it's just because MUSIC SUCKS these days. You can't give it away.
And get off my lawn!
The pilgrims coming to America certainly were religious. They also tried communism but it failed miserably.
The short answer is: Because communism has already been tried and it doesn't work.
In a longer answer: Human beings, more or less, have the drive to get ahead. Call it evolution. Call it basic human laziness. Because sure enough you'll be working your ass off and then turn around and wonder, "Why am I working MY ass of when I'm just going to get the same amount of food and supplies as my neighbor? And my neighbor is a slug who's sits around watching TV all day?" And pretty soon almost no one is producing because there is no incentive to do so and up crop the breadlines and only those in the black market get ahead.
And even if you decide to just drop out and grow your own food or fish for your dinner, the state/federal government wills still want to tax you for whatever they feel you owe. That didn't go away under communism either. Because taxes are the only way the nanny state can keep supporting the slugs watching TV all day.
"As a resident of Utah I can't help but notice that national news always seems to revolve around polygamists and bass-ackwards politics. Woo Utah!"
After reading comments following this...
"As a resident of Utah I can't help but notice that Slashdot news always seems to revolve around polygamists and bass-ackwards politics. Woo Utah!"
Fixed THAT for ya!
Hidayat Sudirman, a 25 year old civil servant from Singapore, bought a 14-inch Asus laptop from a stand at his local IT fair on the understanding that it was a brand-new device. When he got it home, however, it appeared not to be the case.
So he didn't buy this at a store or from Dell/HP/whatever. He bought it at an IT fair in Singapore and they LIED and said it was new?
This is news?
And just wondering why the "censorship icon" is missing from this story. Yes, it may be disgusting, but it's not illegal. It IS however, censorship.
But Vulcan's live longer...he's actually 120, depending on the time space continuum....