I think it is important to remember in all this that, much as they have gone about it the wrong way, the IP holders really do have a legitimate beef. Piracy is a crime and *can* damage their business models.
They have no right to their business models, and piracy is only a crime because their predecessors-in-interest made it so. Just because it's a crime doesn't mean it is legitimately so.
That doesn't mean we shouldn't prosecute them, but we have to respect their rights in the process.
Once they've tried (through the political system or otherwise), or are trying, to inflict imprisonment and/or grievous bodily harm on me simply for writing code, they have no rights as far as I'm concerned. They are an active attacker and my right to self-defense applies.
If it's good enough to watch then you're Camera's will recognize copyrighted material from a watermark and won't take the picture. High end copy machines already do this with currency.
Almost as easily defeated as jailbreaking an iPhone.
In a growing number of cases, the making-of documentary, back-story information, deleted scenes, anamorphic transfer, and the like are available only in the purchased DVD, not the cut-down DVD marked "RENTAL" that Netflix and Redbox get.
That only works because the majority of people who rent don't give a shit about the extras. Which are mostly crap anyway. Netflix and Redbox could quit playing ball and rent the regular discs any time they want to; Netflix won't do it because Hollywood would retaliate by taking away streaming, but Hollywood is doing that anyway, so eventually they won't have a reason to comply.
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And I hope for his own sake that he manages to keep anonymous, as the pro-piracy activists play really dirty, possibly worse than the anti-piracy lobby which at least mostly sticks to the legal channels.
Hmm. Pro-piracy activists, worst case: Illegally access your computers and make you look like a fool on the Internet. Anti-piracy lobby: Put you in prison for 5 years, bankrupt you, and leave you unable to make a living once you get out (thanks to that felony conviction -- good luck getting the AIDS drugs for the case you picked up in prison). All legal. Still think the pro-piracy activists are worse?
What part of copyright law do you currently NOT have to hire a lawyer in order to get 'justice?'
The DMCA. You just use robo-takedown.
I really hope the RIAA stops this bill. While it may not be all they want, it increases the reach of copyright law, which is the wrong way to go. Those on the other side who support this side seem to think that such a compromise will either appease the RIAA or otherwise stop their relentless drive towards destroying the Internet, but that simply is not going to work.
Yes, his eyes look like ordinary blue eyes to me. Seems to me his mother really pulled off a fast one on his father. "Ooh, it's a mutation, has nothing to do with my job as a tour guide for Western visitors."
New fully automatic firearms are banned, not merely taxed. You cannot register a new one, by the operation of the gun control act of 1986. This is (IMO) a violation of the Second Amendment, but the Supreme Court until very recently was avoiding the issue completely.
The First Amendment has been somewhat less mistreated by the courts, and while a 1% tax on video games might survive judicial scrutiny, I don't think a 1% tax on video games with violent-but-protected content is likely to do so.
They will, though. The judge will rule, essentially, that you can sell the MP3 you downloaded -- by selling the particular pieces of oxide on your hard drive (or silicon on your flash drive) that the original download was made to. Thus first sale is preserved but practically impossible.
If video game content is protected by the First Amendment (and current law indicates it is), then a 1% tax based on contents is just as impermissible as a 10000% tax or a straight-up ban.
I fail to see how living in poverty implies that sub-human work conditions, which are so appalling that they even force workers to suicide in droves, becomes somehow acceptable and even desireable.
That the working conditions Foxconn is providing are desirable is a simple empirical fact. They are certainly perceived as better than the conditions the applicants are coming from. That doesn't mean they're good by any western standard, it just demonstrates that humans live in extremely poor conditions.
It's people like you who, during the industrial revolution, made it socially acceptable to have small children work themselves to death in a multitude of industrial jobs, including coal mining.
It was, of course, better to have them work themselves to death in the fields.
And I bet you actually believe your defense of sub-human working conditions actually helps people and makes you a better person.
It's not clear that it's possible for a society to get from the bottom -- the bulk of the population engaged in hardscrabble subsistence farming -- to a Western standard without going through what you term "sub-human" working conditions along the way.
This is why we need this to come before the Senate so it can be voted down.
The Senate will probably acceed to it if it comes up to a vote. What we need is for the executive to try to use it in court without Senate approval and get smacked down.
I pretty much have to assume the worst: All their certificates were compromised and all their data was acquired. If they can't demonstrate these things didn't happen, they need to revoke and re-issue all their certificates, and re-sign those of their customers.
The should go to jail, not for the silly point of facilitating copyright infringement, but to publicly make a point. Somewhat like Gandhi, who submitted to beatings by the British on his own will, showing the public the whole blatant injustice of their behavior.
That doesn't work any more. The general attitude of the public is that anyone who is being punished by the state had it coming because they broke the law (even if they're facing life in prison for walking on the grass). And the media will either ignore the prisoner entirely or promote that attitude -- the media being one and the same with the copyright cartel.
Really? That's pretty nice. I always wondered why the U.S. would turn such a blind eye to such treatment in our prisons. Such inaction seems to clearly violate 8th amendment rights. But what do I know.:/
Prison rape is tolerated because it keeps the population in line. A person might be willing to stand on his principles and risk a prison sentence, and the government can't have that. So instead they make the consequences so terrible that people will agree to anything to avoid prison.
I'm not seeing how this is going to protect against terrorists who have followed the lesson of the successful terrorists of years past: Read Tom Clancy. I don't care how much high tech scanning you do of the people who get in, a terrorist with a nuke is still going to be able to get close enough to blow the whole place up.
Fuck it. The day programming is reduced to a discipline, where you can follow some process outlined in a three-ring binder or a management book-of-the-month and turn out product like a bricklayer turns out walls, is the day there's no point in being in it any more. Hell, when it gets to that point, the last programmer can just write some software to automate the process. Keep on hacking.
Well said. Unfortunately, the lot who are busy beating the broken drum of scarcity are making it difficult for the rest of us who are honestly interested in fair laws around IP.
The worthless fucks who have written the laws we have now and the laws planned for the future, the laws intended to censor the internet to protect their cash flow, the laws which would put a programmer in jail for years for writing code which works around their mean-spirited and broken systems -- those are the people that make it difficult for anyone interested in fair laws around IP.
Piracy is out of hand today. As 'geeks', we've provided the public with the ability to break IP protection laws with impunity. It's not acceptable to the creators of such content, and it is not sustainable.
Fine. Then one of us has to go: them, or us and all we've wrought. I know where I stand on that one.
And by "destroy" I mean de-fund the department, fire everyone in any position of authority, and permanently bar them from working in any government position again. The low-level workers can be treated on a case by case basis.
"We choose to go to the moon in this decade and do the other things, not because they are easy, but because they are hard, because that goal will serve to organize and measure the best of our energies and skills"
Kennedy lied. Not about that going to the moon was hard (it was and is), but that that's why we were doing it. We were doing it to beat the Russians.
and the Japanese don't have bullet trains?
They have bullet trains. They don't have electric cars which can recharge in 10 minutes and have the same range as gasoline-powered cars.
- a "space race" for an electric car with the same range as a gas powered car and that can be recharged in under 10 min?
Because compared to those two, a moon base is easy to achieve, for different reasons. There's no right of way issues for a moon base, everyone equally benefits (or not) from a moon base, and we know a moon base can be achieved with current technology.
Just putting it out there...if you're going to call it civil disobedience, then make sure that you're down with the road you're choosing to travel. Civil disobedience means that if they decide to sue you that you plead guilty to the crime, take the sentence they give you, and forego appeals. Civil disobedience means that you believe in your cause enough to take the punishment they dish out in order to make an example as to how harmful the rules are with the hope that your sacrifice will influence positive change.
Gandhi-style civil disobedience is for suckers. Governments have adapted and it is no longer an effective tactic.
I **seriously** doubt that Pilot Corp. would go out of their way to sue someone for buying that model in Japan and selling them, at profit, in America. And even if they did, I seriously doubt they'd win!
Companies DO try blocking grey market imports of physical goods.
However, they usually abuse patent and copyright to do it. They claim that while their copyright or patent is world-wide, "exhaustion" (the idea that once a patent holder or copyright holder has distributed a particular item, they've "exhausted" their distribution right with respect to that item, and cannot control further distribution) is only applicable to a single country. And thus "grey market" importation is a violation of copyright or patent law. The US courts have mostly been unfriendly to this intepretation, but there are exceptions.
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They have no right to their business models, and piracy is only a crime because their predecessors-in-interest made it so. Just because it's a crime doesn't mean it is legitimately so.
Once they've tried (through the political system or otherwise), or are trying, to inflict imprisonment and/or grievous bodily harm on me simply for writing code, they have no rights as far as I'm concerned. They are an active attacker and my right to self-defense applies.
Almost as easily defeated as jailbreaking an iPhone.
That only works because the majority of people who rent don't give a shit about the extras. Which are mostly crap anyway. Netflix and Redbox could quit playing ball and rent the regular discs any time they want to; Netflix won't do it because Hollywood would retaliate by taking away streaming, but Hollywood is doing that anyway, so eventually they won't have a reason to comply.
Hmm. Pro-piracy activists, worst case: Illegally access your computers and make you look like a fool on the Internet. Anti-piracy lobby: Put you in prison for 5 years, bankrupt you, and leave you unable to make a living once you get out (thanks to that felony conviction -- good luck getting the AIDS drugs for the case you picked up in prison). All legal. Still think the pro-piracy activists are worse?
The DMCA. You just use robo-takedown.
I really hope the RIAA stops this bill. While it may not be all they want, it increases the reach of copyright law, which is the wrong way to go. Those on the other side who support this side seem to think that such a compromise will either appease the RIAA or otherwise stop their relentless drive towards destroying the Internet, but that simply is not going to work.
Yes, his eyes look like ordinary blue eyes to me. Seems to me his mother really pulled off a fast one on his father. "Ooh, it's a mutation, has nothing to do with my job as a tour guide for Western visitors."
Roosevelt forced them to accept the New Deal through court packing, and it's all precedent from there.
New fully automatic firearms are banned, not merely taxed. You cannot register a new one, by the operation of the gun control act of 1986. This is (IMO) a violation of the Second Amendment, but the Supreme Court until very recently was avoiding the issue completely.
The First Amendment has been somewhat less mistreated by the courts, and while a 1% tax on video games might survive judicial scrutiny, I don't think a 1% tax on video games with violent-but-protected content is likely to do so.
They will, though. The judge will rule, essentially, that you can sell the MP3 you downloaded -- by selling the particular pieces of oxide on your hard drive (or silicon on your flash drive) that the original download was made to. Thus first sale is preserved but practically impossible.
If video game content is protected by the First Amendment (and current law indicates it is), then a 1% tax based on contents is just as impermissible as a 10000% tax or a straight-up ban.
That the working conditions Foxconn is providing are desirable is a simple empirical fact. They are certainly perceived as better than the conditions the applicants are coming from. That doesn't mean they're good by any western standard, it just demonstrates that humans live in extremely poor conditions.
It was, of course, better to have them work themselves to death in the fields.
It's not clear that it's possible for a society to get from the bottom -- the bulk of the population engaged in hardscrabble subsistence farming -- to a Western standard without going through what you term "sub-human" working conditions along the way.
Privacy advocates are charter members of that club. Photographers were relative latecomers.
(Remember the Clipper chip?)
The Senate will probably acceed to it if it comes up to a vote. What we need is for the executive to try to use it in court without Senate approval and get smacked down.
I pretty much have to assume the worst: All their certificates were compromised and all their data was acquired. If they can't demonstrate these things didn't happen, they need to revoke and re-issue all their certificates, and re-sign those of their customers.
That doesn't work any more. The general attitude of the public is that anyone who is being punished by the state had it coming because they broke the law (even if they're facing life in prison for walking on the grass). And the media will either ignore the prisoner entirely or promote that attitude -- the media being one and the same with the copyright cartel.
Prison rape is tolerated because it keeps the population in line. A person might be willing to stand on his principles and risk a prison sentence, and the government can't have that. So instead they make the consequences so terrible that people will agree to anything to avoid prison.
I'm not seeing how this is going to protect against terrorists who have followed the lesson of the successful terrorists of years past: Read Tom Clancy. I don't care how much high tech scanning you do of the people who get in, a terrorist with a nuke is still going to be able to get close enough to blow the whole place up.
Sounds interesting, but how do you get the grizzly to put on the loincloth?
Fuck it. The day programming is reduced to a discipline, where you can follow some process outlined in a three-ring binder or a management book-of-the-month and turn out product like a bricklayer turns out walls, is the day there's no point in being in it any more. Hell, when it gets to that point, the last programmer can just write some software to automate the process. Keep on hacking.
The worthless fucks who have written the laws we have now and the laws planned for the future, the laws intended to censor the internet to protect their cash flow, the laws which would put a programmer in jail for years for writing code which works around their mean-spirited and broken systems -- those are the people that make it difficult for anyone interested in fair laws around IP.
Fine. Then one of us has to go: them, or us and all we've wrought. I know where I stand on that one.
And by "destroy" I mean de-fund the department, fire everyone in any position of authority, and permanently bar them from working in any government position again. The low-level workers can be treated on a case by case basis.
Kennedy lied. Not about that going to the moon was hard (it was and is), but that that's why we were doing it. We were doing it to beat the Russians.
They have bullet trains. They don't have electric cars which can recharge in 10 minutes and have the same range as gasoline-powered cars.
Because compared to those two, a moon base is easy to achieve, for different reasons. There's no right of way issues for a moon base, everyone equally benefits (or not) from a moon base, and we know a moon base can be achieved with current technology.
Gandhi-style civil disobedience is for suckers. Governments have adapted and it is no longer an effective tactic.
Companies DO try blocking grey market imports of physical goods.
However, they usually abuse patent and copyright to do it. They claim that while their copyright or patent is world-wide, "exhaustion" (the idea that once a patent holder or copyright holder has distributed a particular item, they've "exhausted" their distribution right with respect to that item, and cannot control further distribution) is only applicable to a single country. And thus "grey market" importation is a violation of copyright or patent law. The US courts have mostly been unfriendly to this intepretation, but there are exceptions.