Ah....but since we are talking about a car salesman, the car probably was only worth 25$. Still a good deal, I'd take it. Even if it only drives a month:-)
it will e-mail your social security number, credit card numbers(s) and your personal information to Microsoft
And how do you know it doesn't? After all, Windows Update sends stuff to Microsoft. Latest Service Pack for W2k has a completely Automatic Update incorporated (now, I thought service packs shouldn't include new features). I know, in their privacy policy on the web they state they don't send info...but privacy policies on the web represent nothing nowadays and are subject to change any day in the week.
And it will load virusen (note spelling) on your computer so they can h4x0R you!!
Small anecdote: recently I "fixed" the PC of a acquitances of mine (clueless computer user). This family uses only Microsoft products and is clueless about maintenance (their Antivirus was hopelessly out of date). So, I say that this was an unpatched Windows 98, with an unpached Outlook (5, I think) and an unpatched Internet Explorer(5, I think). Now, what did I find on this machine: spyware *en masse*, and besides that at least 5 instances of Klez and *two* programs that Norton Antivirus identified as "Backdoors". Now, what again about haxorring?
Microsoft doesn't give you the blueprints of the software, yes. I'm perfectly okay with that. However knowing that many skilled programmers all over the world tinker daily with the open-source equivalents gives me this warm and comfy feeling that malicious code *will* be detected and *will* be fixed. It's just a feeling, so it's rather subjective... but honestly, do you prefer to be part of a community that might care for you *or* know that a company that is only after money (which is after all the goal of any company) is responsible for your security?
Of course your post was flamebait, and I took the bait.
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It's "Quelle surprise", because "surprise" is female: it is "une surprise" and not "un surprise". Not to bash you, just the friendly advice of your local frenchie. I get bashed for my english all the time here on slashdot.
Ehm... You care how much it will cost to bury/creamate/whatever yourself? Ehm, honestly... when I'm dead *that* will be the least of my worries.
I want to be cremated too, much cleaner than burial. But getting turned into a diamond is not *that* expensive. Heck you don't get much nowadays for 4000$.
Yes, you are right about the fact that most people already are dependant of Windows and couldn't care less. But I'm that is why I convince people to buy a Mac. Really, I have bought one last december and I'm a "switcher". Look, I still have my P-III 800/786Meg (with a nice LCD flatscreen), which is much more powerfull than my iBook G3 600Mhz/384Meg... however, the Mac is just painless. Nice sleek interface, everything I need is there and installing soft wasn't so easy since the DOS days... What to ask more? Point is: it is Unix. So Unix on the desktop is possible for normal users... they won't know it, but they will get the benefit of it.
People whom I consider intelligent enough will get an easy Linux distrib installed by me. At least, when the next worm-of-the-day comes along I have something to fall back on when they are in deep trouble. I hope they will give it a try instead of wasting 1.5Gig of space I usually reserve for Linux on machines that are not mine. More and more people are getting fed up with Microsoft you know, and not only geeks. (The PC I talked about belongs to a good friend of mine who is in *MARKETING*...now try to get that.)
If it must be Windows, I really prefer Windows 2000. (Or NT4, for older machines). Actually, this weekend I installed Lycoris and it worked out of the box. Unlike Windows 2000 or Windows 98 which didn't find drivers for at least 2 devices (3 in 98). (Tri-boot machine).
Just a question: how is this a valid reply to my post? I was talking about putting Unix on the desktop and you talk about a Warez Corporate Version of Windows XP??? That helps nobody: you still help the Microsoft Monopoly by making people dependant on the platform (which is not Unix, one of my points remember?)
My dad has had serveral Dell laptops from work. The first one was okay, the second one had a failing CMOS (now that is very weird) and the third one had a Harddisk that blew. All these three machines were configured in the most *bloated* way I saw.
He now has his own Dell (he absolutely didn't want to switch...and honestly, it's still better than Compaq. But my heart goes to IBM, Toshiba and Apple). It runs rock-solid and nothing bloated on it, but that's only because he bought it, never turned it on, pushed it in my hands and said "reinstall it clean". Now, seems he learned something from having bloated soft on his machine.
So far no hardware failures on that one. I still cross my fingers.
Whenever someone that doesn't know much about computers asks me about buying one, I tell them to check out Dell
And I send them to Apple... Breaching the Microsoft monopoly, bringing Unix to the desktop and actually giving people a hassle-free environment... Now *that* is *helping*.
Dell has become really overpriced since their brand is so well-known.
I never liked X window. It just screams "bloat".
Oh, Mr. William Gates, then never ever try any Windows version after Windows NT4, please. Because, I've seen bloat and Windows XP is extremely bloated and Windows 2000 kinda is okay-but-really-could-have-been-less-bloated.
No wonder people like Visual Studio so much I don't like Visual Studio at all. I was a Borland Guy... I still am a Borland guy, CBuilder was way superior (dunno if it still is, haven't used it since version 3)
I'll be watching your posts....You are funny. btw, can I call you Bill? "Mr Gates "is so formal.
No, it is not complete bullshit. As I said in my post, there has to be a percentage that has to be calculated that represents the legitmate use of CD-R's.
Let's say they want a 10% tax on CD-R's, but statistics show that only 25% of all CD-R's are used for pirating music, they are entitled to a tax of 10% on these 25%. Which is 2,5% tax on all CD-R's. It's a matter of redistribution.
For bussinesses there could be yearly tax-redemptions. You provide that bills for all the CD-R's you bought over the year and you get the "tax" back. How do you think it works with all the extra fee's bussinesses have? Why do you think so many companies are so keen on getting you a laptop, cellphone and company car? They mark them as expenses (and you work more and are dependant) and get tax cuts. My company hates me because I refuse to get a company-laptop, company-cell and company-car.
And if you think bussinesses don't pirate music, go and look in the CD-changer that plays the waiting music for the phone system. I know 100% sure that in ours are only copies of CD's from employee's.
I won't mind paying a small tax to retain the liberty to do whatever I want with my CD-R's. If this includes the Linux ISO's, then it shall be that way. Better *that*, than get copy-protected CD-writers where a downloaded ISO *will not even BURN*.
Yup and nearly all TV sets in Europe support NTSC, PAL and SECAM. At least the good ones. We won't import TV sets from the US, but you can count on it that an American can buy a TV set in Europe. The only thing I see as a barrier is that we have 220V@50Hz and I believe in the US it is 110V@60Hz. (not sure about the Hz)
Sorry to burst your bubble....
And you know what? If they tax the media we can use to "pirate" things, I'm all for it... as long as they allow us to copy the stuff. Taxing -for example- CD-R's, but then introducting copy-protection schemes on Audio-CD's should disappear all together! Same for DVD's: no more CCS, no restrictions.
Just recently my sister bought 2 boxes of CD-R Audio. Which is -of course- completely insane because we only have CD-burners in our computers. She didn't know the difference at all. How many "would be pirates" are already making this "mistake", just because they don't know what the technical difference is between a CD-R Data and a CD-R Audio? I told her that the extra money she paid for these CD-R's, was "to pay free her guilt of piracy", and I still think it is! She payed extra, now she can pirate. Do this on every digital media, and there is no more problem at all. Just calculate the percentage correctly: on a harddisk there is a percentage that is used for data-storage uses, CD-R's are used for burning (legal) data. (Hey, I download Linux ISO's!) This has to be taken into account correctly, because that is the main difference between "data-media" and "music-media" (think '80 style casettes).
Tax okay, but then ditch the copy protection!
I do listen to the radio when driving to work mostly at a normal volume, but I rarely open the windows...but you talked about "longer trips". I have to admit that in the morning it can be quite hard, but then I stay in bed until I feel okay. Yes, I often start at 10am, that is alas the price to pay. That, and I only have a 20 minute drive to work... with nearly no traffic... especially at 10am;-)
But for long trips, I just take a nap. If it's for safety, I prefer to arrive late than not at all.
Motorola is indeed the worst, considering the menu structure, but in no way the reliability. My first mobile phone was a Motorola and I used it 5 years long. I still have it (and it still works!). When it was 5 years old and I replaced it, the new Motorola's were still using the same chipset (well, the menu structure and display was identical). On the other hand, my Motorola was very sturdy...actually it was that heavy I could kill someone with it but at least it never broke.
You may be happy with Nokia...but they really feel like toys to me. Perhaps the high end ones are good, but the ones most people have are really substandard. What I know about Ericons is that they are small...very small...That's about it. They are not really that sturdy: my brother bought two Ericons last month because they didn't survive his rough handling. And two months before that had one fail on him (not due to rough handling) in the first week after purchase (that's what warranty is for, luckily). Just because of knowing this stuff, I wouldn't ever buy a Ericson. Strangely enough my brother still swears by the brand.
You know, one of my friends worked for Siemens and he had -of course- a Siemens company phone. He switched jobs to General Electric (which is a direct competitor of Siemens) and now he has a Nokia...one of the expensive models. Everytime I see him, he curses on his Nokia and swears that nothing can beat a Siemens. A lot of people who I know that have Siemens phone are very happy with it. But perhaps we just value german engineering;-) (I just checked, it really says "made in germany" on the back of my phone).
Not everyone is a native english speaker. So excuse me for not catching the subtilities in your language.
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Multiheaded gaming??
Sounds quite annoying to me to have the border of the screen in the middle of the view. Or in what way is that used anyway?
When I think multihead, I think bussiness applications...mainly brokers and the like that need *a lot* of information at the same time. I don't think of gaming at all.
My Nokia has just gone in for repair following an encounter with the floor.
That is one of the things I mean with "toy". My Siemens S35i has encountered the floor numerous times and it even fell once in a toilet (don't ask). It still works as the first day. Now try that with a Nokia.
The menu system is actually very precise and organised. It has nice categories for each functionality. Things that are important are not deep nested and stuff that your really just need to setup once is way down there in the menu-tree. Sometimes it's better for newbies that they don't meddle with the Network setup of the phone (for example). And I like the fact that I nearly reprogram any button I like.
Besides, ask your Nokia friends to send you an picture to your Siemens phone and see what mess it makes (receiving 3 to 5 SMSes full of junk). See, that is toy stuff...Nobody needs to send images (besides that is why I think that MMS will fail).
Besides, I'm not the kind of guy that buys a new cell each 3 months because now cells have MMS or GPRS or whatever is funky nowadays. I buy a phone and it is supposed to last at least 3 years. My last cellphone lasted 5 years, and I only replaced it because it was impossible to get a replacement battery.
First: Nokia are toy phones. I wouldn't want to be catched with one alive. I'm a Siemens fan, plain (not "uber-cool") phones with a clean interfaces and no fancy-schmancy stuff.
Personally I'd love to have a phone that integrates completely with my PDA (I have a Psion Revo+, and compared to any palmlike machine, the Psion really *is* superior...too bad they don't make PDA's anymore). So imagine a sleek (think TiBook metal looks, or iBook...I love the white), with running a NetBSD-trimmed-down-but-Mac-friendly OS and integrating iPod functionalities...all that within a phone! Hey, I'd pay 500 for such a thing. Good cellphones start at 400 anyway..so why bother? And don't star the crap about: "I get a cellphone for 99 when I take a two year service with a certain provider". I don't care... Cellphones cost a lot of money, you are just subsidised by the phone company. Most people just do not realise that. I prefer to choose the phone I like, instead of taking a crappy Nokia that is "given away" for 99.
Glad to hear that I'm not the only one who think that PCI graphic cards still make sense. And you are right, you don't need a fancy graphics card to do "normal" applications. Heck the PPro I mentioned has an Matrox Mystique as primary graphics adaptor (Voodoo2 is an add-on board), and you know what: I prefer the display quality way over my others machine Geforce. How many times are you useing 3D anyway.
And Halflife still rocks... It's all I need for my 3D fix *grin*.
Um, if you are in the state you need a radio or open windows to stay awake, the *only* sensible thing to do is to find a parking ASAP and take a nap in your car. (lock your doors, okay?)
I have been in the situation myself. It's friggin dangerous to drive when too tired and at least I pulled over at the next parking.
You know, there are other reasons to buy PCI graphic cards than being a sucker who bought an e-machine. (Besides, I haven't seen a new machine without AGP...I was astonished when I heard some e-machines were sold without AGP slots) What about people that like to keep their old machines a long time? I personally have a good old trusty Pentium Pro 200, with 256Meg RAM and all drives in SCSI. 6 years ago this baby has cost me a lot of money, and it still runs like a dream (Yes, W2K is no problem on this config). For games I have a Voodoo2 card and this mean I can play 3 year old games comfortably. So buying a PCI GeForce2 would perhaps be a sensible upgrade. I admit this machine is getting really low end, but one day it will make a great server, but just not yet...just not yet...
Point taken... (I took Db 202 and 303, noone ever told me not to show the primary key to the user: just that they shouldn't manipulate it directly.)
However think of it as a phone number, not as a primary key. Your phone number is after all a primary key too. Besides, most people don't know their ICQ#. Well I for sure don't and I only have a 7-digit ICQ number.
Is ICQ....I know it is AOl, but it kept it's own identity. The only IM I allow on my home network is ICQ. AOL, MS Messenger and anything else is blocked. I'm sorry, but ICQ has all anyone would ever need, and the ICQ number is way superior to any buddy-based list. Heck, didn't they get Databases 101: you do not use a name as Primary Key! Damnit. ICQ is the way to go, yes, it is AOL, yes it has ads on the Windows version and, yes, most people use AIM. And I love it on my iBook...no ads, just everything I need. Why ask for more?
Since there seem to be two teenage girls missing in the UK, it really is an ideal time to market tracking devices for you children. Never forget: "Think of the children".
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Ah....but since we are talking about a car salesman, the car probably was only worth 25$. Still a good deal, I'd take it. Even if it only drives a month :-)
And how do you know it doesn't? After all, Windows Update sends stuff to Microsoft. Latest Service Pack for W2k has a completely Automatic Update incorporated (now, I thought service packs shouldn't include new features). I know, in their privacy policy on the web they state they don't send info...but privacy policies on the web represent nothing nowadays and are subject to change any day in the week.
And it will load virusen (note spelling) on your computer so they can h4x0R you!!
Small anecdote: recently I "fixed" the PC of a acquitances of mine (clueless computer user). This family uses only Microsoft products and is clueless about maintenance (their Antivirus was hopelessly out of date). So, I say that this was an unpatched Windows 98, with an unpached Outlook (5, I think) and an unpatched Internet Explorer(5, I think). Now, what did I find on this machine: spyware *en masse*, and besides that at least 5 instances of Klez and *two* programs that Norton Antivirus identified as "Backdoors". Now, what again about haxorring?
Microsoft doesn't give you the blueprints of the software, yes. I'm perfectly okay with that. However knowing that many skilled programmers all over the world tinker daily with the open-source equivalents gives me this warm and comfy feeling that malicious code *will* be detected and *will* be fixed. It's just a feeling, so it's rather subjective... but honestly, do you prefer to be part of a community that might care for you *or* know that a company that is only after money (which is after all the goal of any company) is responsible for your security?
Of course your post was flamebait, and I took the bait.
It's "Quelle surprise", because "surprise" is female: it is "une surprise" and not "un surprise".
Not to bash you, just the friendly advice of your local frenchie. I get bashed for my english all the time here on slashdot.
Ehm... You care how much it will cost to bury/creamate/whatever yourself? Ehm, honestly... when I'm dead *that* will be the least of my worries.
I want to be cremated too, much cleaner than burial. But getting turned into a diamond is not *that* expensive. Heck you don't get much nowadays for 4000$.
Yes, you are right about the fact that most people already are dependant of Windows and couldn't care less.
But I'm that is why I convince people to buy a Mac. Really, I have bought one last december and I'm a "switcher". Look, I still have my P-III 800/786Meg (with a nice LCD flatscreen), which is much more powerfull than my iBook G3 600Mhz/384Meg... however, the Mac is just painless. Nice sleek interface, everything I need is there and installing soft wasn't so easy since the DOS days... What to ask more?
Point is: it is Unix. So Unix on the desktop is possible for normal users... they won't know it, but they will get the benefit of it.
People whom I consider intelligent enough will get an easy Linux distrib installed by me. At least, when the next worm-of-the-day comes along I have something to fall back on when they are in deep trouble. I hope they will give it a try instead of wasting 1.5Gig of space I usually reserve for Linux on machines that are not mine. More and more people are getting fed up with Microsoft you know, and not only geeks. (The PC I talked about belongs to a good friend of mine who is in *MARKETING*...now try to get that.)
If it must be Windows, I really prefer Windows 2000. (Or NT4, for older machines). Actually, this weekend I installed Lycoris and it worked out of the box. Unlike Windows 2000 or Windows 98 which didn't find drivers for at least 2 devices (3 in 98). (Tri-boot machine).
Just a question: how is this a valid reply to my post? I was talking about putting Unix on the desktop and you talk about a Warez Corporate Version of Windows XP??? That helps nobody: you still help the Microsoft Monopoly by making people dependant on the platform (which is not Unix, one of my points remember?)
The first one was okay, the second one had a failing CMOS (now that is very weird) and the third one had a Harddisk that blew. All these three machines were configured in the most *bloated* way I saw.
He now has his own Dell (he absolutely didn't want to switch...and honestly, it's still better than Compaq. But my heart goes to IBM, Toshiba and Apple). It runs rock-solid and nothing bloated on it, but that's only because he bought it, never turned it on, pushed it in my hands and said "reinstall it clean". Now, seems he learned something from having bloated soft on his machine.
So far no hardware failures on that one. I still cross my fingers.
And I send them to Apple... Breaching the Microsoft monopoly, bringing Unix to the desktop and actually giving people a hassle-free environment... Now *that* is *helping*.
Dell has become really overpriced since their brand is so well-known.
Oh, Mr. William Gates, then never ever try any Windows version after Windows NT4, please. Because, I've seen bloat and Windows XP is extremely bloated and Windows 2000 kinda is okay-but-really-could-have-been-less-bloated.
No wonder people like Visual Studio so much
I don't like Visual Studio at all. I was a Borland Guy... I still am a Borland guy, CBuilder was way superior (dunno if it still is, haven't used it since version 3)
I'll be watching your posts....You are funny. btw, can I call you Bill? "Mr Gates "is so formal.
Let's say they want a 10% tax on CD-R's, but statistics show that only 25% of all CD-R's are used for pirating music, they are entitled to a tax of 10% on these 25%. Which is 2,5% tax on all CD-R's. It's a matter of redistribution.
For bussinesses there could be yearly tax-redemptions. You provide that bills for all the CD-R's you bought over the year and you get the "tax" back. How do you think it works with all the extra fee's bussinesses have? Why do you think so many companies are so keen on getting you a laptop, cellphone and company car? They mark them as expenses (and you work more and are dependant) and get tax cuts. My company hates me because I refuse to get a company-laptop, company-cell and company-car.
And if you think bussinesses don't pirate music, go and look in the CD-changer that plays the waiting music for the phone system. I know 100% sure that in ours are only copies of CD's from employee's.
I won't mind paying a small tax to retain the liberty to do whatever I want with my CD-R's. If this includes the Linux ISO's, then it shall be that way. Better *that*, than get copy-protected CD-writers where a downloaded ISO *will not even BURN*.
Yup and nearly all TV sets in Europe support NTSC, PAL and SECAM. At least the good ones. We won't import TV sets from the US, but you can count on it that an American can buy a TV set in Europe. The only thing I see as a barrier is that we have 220V@50Hz and I believe in the US it is 110V@60Hz. (not sure about the Hz)
Sorry to burst your bubble....
Just recently my sister bought 2 boxes of CD-R Audio. Which is -of course- completely insane because we only have CD-burners in our computers. She didn't know the difference at all. How many "would be pirates" are already making this "mistake", just because they don't know what the technical difference is between a CD-R Data and a CD-R Audio?
I told her that the extra money she paid for these CD-R's, was "to pay free her guilt of piracy", and I still think it is! She payed extra, now she can pirate. Do this on every digital media, and there is no more problem at all. Just calculate the percentage correctly: on a harddisk there is a percentage that is used for data-storage uses, CD-R's are used for burning (legal) data. (Hey, I download Linux ISO's!) This has to be taken into account correctly, because that is the main difference between "data-media" and "music-media" (think '80 style casettes).
Tax okay, but then ditch the copy protection!
But for long trips, I just take a nap. If it's for safety, I prefer to arrive late than not at all.
You may be happy with Nokia...but they really feel like toys to me. Perhaps the high end ones are good, but the ones most people have are really substandard. ;-) (I just checked, it really says "made in germany" on the back of my phone).
What I know about Ericons is that they are small...very small...That's about it. They are not really that sturdy: my brother bought two Ericons last month because they didn't survive his rough handling. And two months before that had one fail on him (not due to rough handling) in the first week after purchase (that's what warranty is for, luckily). Just because of knowing this stuff, I wouldn't ever buy a Ericson. Strangely enough my brother still swears by the brand.
You know, one of my friends worked for Siemens and he had -of course- a Siemens company phone. He switched jobs to General Electric (which is a direct competitor of Siemens) and now he has a Nokia...one of the expensive models. Everytime I see him, he curses on his Nokia and swears that nothing can beat a Siemens. A lot of people who I know that have Siemens phone are very happy with it. But perhaps we just value german engineering
Not everyone is a native english speaker. So excuse me for not catching the subtilities in your language.
Sounds quite annoying to me to have the border of the screen in the middle of the view. Or in what way is that used anyway?
When I think multihead, I think bussiness applications...mainly brokers and the like that need *a lot* of information at the same time. I don't think of gaming at all.
That is one of the things I mean with "toy". My Siemens S35i has encountered the floor numerous times and it even fell once in a toilet (don't ask). It still works as the first day. Now try that with a Nokia.
The menu system is actually very precise and organised. It has nice categories for each functionality. Things that are important are not deep nested and stuff that your really just need to setup once is way down there in the menu-tree. Sometimes it's better for newbies that they don't meddle with the Network setup of the phone (for example). And I like the fact that I nearly reprogram any button I like.
Besides, ask your Nokia friends to send you an picture to your Siemens phone and see what mess it makes (receiving 3 to 5 SMSes full of junk). See, that is toy stuff...Nobody needs to send images (besides that is why I think that MMS will fail).
Besides, I'm not the kind of guy that buys a new cell each 3 months because now cells have MMS or GPRS or whatever is funky nowadays. I buy a phone and it is supposed to last at least 3 years. My last cellphone lasted 5 years, and I only replaced it because it was impossible to get a replacement battery.
Personally I'd love to have a phone that integrates completely with my PDA (I have a Psion Revo+, and compared to any palmlike machine, the Psion really *is* superior...too bad they don't make PDA's anymore). So imagine a sleek (think TiBook metal looks, or iBook...I love the white), with running a NetBSD-trimmed-down-but-Mac-friendly OS and integrating iPod functionalities...all that within a phone! Hey, I'd pay 500 for such a thing. Good cellphones start at 400 anyway..so why bother?
And don't star the crap about: "I get a cellphone for 99 when I take a two year service with a certain provider". I don't care... Cellphones cost a lot of money, you are just subsidised by the phone company. Most people just do not realise that. I prefer to choose the phone I like, instead of taking a crappy Nokia that is "given away" for 99.
Glad to hear that I'm not the only one who think that PCI graphic cards still make sense. And you are right, you don't need a fancy graphics card to do "normal" applications. Heck the PPro I mentioned has an Matrox Mystique as primary graphics adaptor (Voodoo2 is an add-on board), and you know what: I prefer the display quality way over my others machine Geforce. How many times are you useing 3D anyway.
And Halflife still rocks... It's all I need for my 3D fix *grin*.
Um, if you are in the state you need a radio or open windows to stay awake, the *only* sensible thing to do is to find a parking ASAP and take a nap in your car. (lock your doors, okay?)
I have been in the situation myself. It's friggin dangerous to drive when too tired and at least I pulled over at the next parking.
You know, there are other reasons to buy PCI graphic cards than being a sucker who bought an e-machine. (Besides, I haven't seen a new machine without AGP...I was astonished when I heard some e-machines were sold without AGP slots)
What about people that like to keep their old machines a long time? I personally have a good old trusty Pentium Pro 200, with 256Meg RAM and all drives in SCSI. 6 years ago this baby has cost me a lot of money, and it still runs like a dream (Yes, W2K is no problem on this config). For games I have a Voodoo2 card and this mean I can play 3 year old games comfortably. So buying a PCI GeForce2 would perhaps be a sensible upgrade. I admit this machine is getting really low end, but one day it will make a great server, but just not yet...just not yet...
Point taken... (I took Db 202 and 303, noone ever told me not to show the primary key to the user: just that they shouldn't manipulate it directly.)
However think of it as a phone number, not as a primary key. Your phone number is after all a primary key too. Besides, most people don't know their ICQ#. Well I for sure don't and I only have a 7-digit ICQ number.
Is ICQ....I know it is AOl, but it kept it's own identity. The only IM I allow on my home network is ICQ. AOL, MS Messenger and anything else is blocked. I'm sorry, but ICQ has all anyone would ever need, and the ICQ number is way superior to any buddy-based list. Heck, didn't they get Databases 101: you do not use a name as Primary Key! Damnit. ICQ is the way to go, yes, it is AOL, yes it has ads on the Windows version and, yes, most people use AIM. And I love it on my iBook...no ads, just everything I need. Why ask for more?
Since there seem to be two teenage girls missing in the UK, it really is an ideal time to market tracking devices for you children. Never forget: "Think of the children".
Isn't that a certain period in the month where your girlfriend whines about abdominal pains. And you *like* that? Freak!