It's true. MS's most profitable division is the Office business unit, and their highest margin product is Office v.X, from the Mac business unit, which is a subset of the Office Business unit these days. Tehre's things to be said for code reuse.
They've got their own OS, with their own browser, and their own office Suite lying around (AppleWorks, hasn't been updated in a while, but they could).
Oh, and they sell more Unix Workstations than Sun does.
Started with Logo, and then HyperTalk. Then I leard Commodore Basic and GW-Basic. By the time QuickBasic (QBasic is just QuickBasic with no compiler) came around, I was already using Borland C.
First off, you do understand that we have a fairly distributed backbone topology now. I'm not relying on 2 OC48 links in the same condutit, I'm relying on a dozen or more, going out to 5 different cities, all of which are meshed. Redundancy is a design requirement for backbone providers now. And the problem with traffic to the other side of the street going via San Jose (As much traffic between @Home and the world used to) simply comes down to a provider being cheap. So, don't deal witha provider that doesn't have reasonably near interconnections with the major backbones.
As to caching, that is reliant on the idea that a significant number of geographically-close people are all viewing the same static pages. It simply doesn't work with dynamic pages, or web forums, or email. You can't cache what isn't static, and the net isn't static. Hell it wouldn't even work for slashdot.
Also, how are you going to track who has what cached and where they're located? Something like a P2P app, which requires tracking servers or only makes portions of the network available to individual users.
It also means that everybody's going to have to buy somewhat bigger drives and more ram, as caching will become much more important to network performance.
Oh, it also kills the ability I have with RDC or VNC to easily log into a geographically diverse set of servers to manage them. Because the bandwidth and latency ain't there.
In other words, your network offers me exactly nothing. No speed improvements, no additional content, and it removes the usability of most of the internet's killer apps, especially email and dynamic web content like slashdot. IM will still mostly work, except accessing the login servers wiull be problematic. And many of us would lose our jobs(You know how much of Slashdot's readership works for ISP's and Telco's? A significant fraction. But I'll save $30/month. Nah, I'll just pay for my bandwidth and get performance and availability, hell it's only a case of beer or two a month.
First off, BGP and IS-IS are the standard routing protocols for the backbones. A network with ad-hoc peer-to-peer routing is simply a nightmare to route on a large scale. The current Internet topology evolved to the present state greatly due to the problems with ad-hoc routing. Remember Bang Paths? That's what we would be back to. Otherwise we'd be looking at ridiculous sized routing tables or a situation close to the current one would eventually evolve, with one or more 'backbone' providers providing intersity links and routing.
As to MAN's and Wireless, I was stating that a MAN was about the largest size network that an ad-hoc wireless solution could scale to, not that current MAN's weren't significantly faster.
I still consider the ideal form factor for a laptop to be the Pismo G3, even the 15" is a wee bit larger than I'd like in 2 dimensions. The 17" is great on a desk, but I can't see lugging around that massive screen.
Well, since the 17" is really a niche product, like the Cube, it's no biggy. I suspect the current 15" model is significantly outselling the 17", despite being an inferior performer.
Are you aware that the PPC970 is a more efficient design than the PPC7455?
It runs cooler and draws slightly less power (19W for a 1.2GHz 970 vs 22W for a 1.25GHz 7455) and is significantly faster. A 1.2GHz 15" Powerbook G5 is quite believable, especially since the 15" is way overdue for an update.
And 17"'ers have been shipping since April or so. they're just not selling terrible well (It's too damned big.)
Actually, Apple would have little trouble getting it certified.
The userland is pretty much a cross between FreeBSD and NeXTStep, both of which are genetic Unix's (And I mean derived from their codebases, not just emulated)
And it performs just like Unix, and uses little GNU code apart from the compiler, and a few utilities not available from NeXTStep or BSD development. The major difference from most (but not all) Unixes is the use of Aqua instead of X, and that's not even unique (both NeXTStep and SunOS shipped with Non-X windowing systems)
Nissan is a subsidiary of Renault, which is certainly French. I would, like most people, call Nissan a Japanese company. I was just demonstrating the silliness of calling major multinationals a 'country' company.
Mercedes benz, like Chrysler, Jeep, Dodge and the late lamented Plymouth and Eagle are all Nameplates (This is a technical term from the Auto industry, for Brands that are different from the name of the company that actually builds the cars).
Considering that DaimlerChrysler is the result of the merger between Daimler Benz and Chrysler, and much of the board is american, as well as most of their manufacturing presence, one can call them an American company as much as a German one. Determining the actual providence of a multinational is difficult.
forex: Nissan is actually a French company (independant subsidiary of Renault)
DaimlerChrysler (Mercedes Benz is a nameplate, not a company) is most assuredly a US company, it's also a German company.
And I'd suspect that they got the/8 via Chrysler (Which was heavily involved with DARPA at the time IP was being rolled out, primarily for the M1 Abrams program).
But unlike many of the IT companies, they have a reduced need for IP space. BBNPlanet, AT&T, PSINet are all providers, and IBM and HP (As well as Compaq) both maintain huge semi-private networks.
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You are not obligated to provide a forum for their speech.
Freedom of speech doen't mean that you need to let them speak at your cost, merely that you can't stop them from speaking.
But of course, there's no freedom of Speech in Europe, just freedom for correct speech.
It's true. MS's most profitable division is the Office business unit, and their highest margin product is Office v.X, from the Mac business unit, which is a subset of the Office Business unit these days. Tehre's things to be said for code reuse.
It would really lead to AppleWorks 7 being announced a couple fo days later.
And MS's most profitable business unit is the Mac Office unit.
Umm, ever heard of Apple?
They've got their own OS, with their own browser, and their own office Suite lying around (AppleWorks, hasn't been updated in a while, but they could).
Oh, and they sell more Unix Workstations than Sun does.
yeah, my C is a little rusty. been a while, i just use Python or Bourne Shell for my programming requirements today.
try:
printf(a+b);
Gawd no,
Started with Logo, and then HyperTalk. Then I leard Commodore Basic and GW-Basic. By the time QuickBasic (QBasic is just QuickBasic with no compiler) came around, I was already using Borland C.
Nah, it's probably not going to show up in Mac's before Jan 2005.
It's not weight, it's size. And I've seen the things. It's too long and too wide.
Frankly, if it wasn't for my aversion to 12" screens, I wouldn't even be looking at 14" or 15" notebooks.
Umm, no.
First off, you do understand that we have a fairly distributed backbone topology now. I'm not relying on 2 OC48 links in the same condutit, I'm relying on a dozen or more, going out to 5 different cities, all of which are meshed. Redundancy is a design requirement for backbone providers now. And the problem with traffic to the other side of the street going via San Jose (As much traffic between @Home and the world used to) simply comes down to a provider being cheap. So, don't deal witha provider that doesn't have reasonably near interconnections with the major backbones.
As to caching, that is reliant on the idea that a significant number of geographically-close people are all viewing the same static pages. It simply doesn't work with dynamic pages, or web forums, or email. You can't cache what isn't static, and the net isn't static. Hell it wouldn't even work for slashdot.
Also, how are you going to track who has what cached and where they're located? Something like a P2P app, which requires tracking servers or only makes portions of the network available to individual users.
It also means that everybody's going to have to buy somewhat bigger drives and more ram, as caching will become much more important to network performance.
Oh, it also kills the ability I have with RDC or VNC to easily log into a geographically diverse set of servers to manage them. Because the bandwidth and latency ain't there.
In other words, your network offers me exactly nothing. No speed improvements, no additional content, and it removes the usability of most of the internet's killer apps, especially email and dynamic web content like slashdot. IM will still mostly work, except accessing the login servers wiull be problematic. And many of us would lose our jobs(You know how much of Slashdot's readership works for ISP's and Telco's? A significant fraction. But I'll save $30/month. Nah, I'll just pay for my bandwidth and get performance and availability, hell it's only a case of beer or two a month.
First off, BGP and IS-IS are the standard routing protocols for the backbones. A network with ad-hoc peer-to-peer routing is simply a nightmare to route on a large scale. The current Internet topology evolved to the present state greatly due to the problems with ad-hoc routing. Remember Bang Paths? That's what we would be back to. Otherwise we'd be looking at ridiculous sized routing tables or a situation close to the current one would eventually evolve, with one or more 'backbone' providers providing intersity links and routing.
As to MAN's and Wireless, I was stating that a MAN was about the largest size network that an ad-hoc wireless solution could scale to, not that current MAN's weren't significantly faster.
I still consider the ideal form factor for a laptop to be the Pismo G3, even the 15" is a wee bit larger than I'd like in 2 dimensions. The 17" is great on a desk, but I can't see lugging around that massive screen.
So, you want everybody to be restricted by the low-bandwith links common for last-mile today, no fast websites, and non-robust routing?
I don't think you understand the value of redundant OC48 backbones, BGP4 and IS-IS routing, and colocated servers on gigE links.
Your ad-hoc networks would be OK for MAN's (Metropolitan Area Networks), but are simply unusable for anykind of backbone.
Note that Apple uses the same CPU's in it's desktop and laptop units. Apple currently uses 2 CPU's, the PPC7455 (Any G4) and the PPC750FX (iBook).
It's a hard call though. I'm about 60% in favour of the PB G5 though.
Well, since the 17" is really a niche product, like the Cube, it's no biggy. I suspect the current 15" model is significantly outselling the 17", despite being an inferior performer.
It's actually called the PPC980, and is due next year.
Yes, the PPC980 is in the IBM roadmap, it's to the Power5 as the 970 is to the Power4.
Are you aware that the PPC970 is a more efficient design than the PPC7455?
It runs cooler and draws slightly less power (19W for a 1.2GHz 970 vs 22W for a 1.25GHz 7455) and is significantly faster. A 1.2GHz 15" Powerbook G5 is quite believable, especially since the 15" is way overdue for an update.
And 17"'ers have been shipping since April or so. they're just not selling terrible well (It's too damned big.)
Actually, Apple would have little trouble getting it certified.
The userland is pretty much a cross between FreeBSD and NeXTStep, both of which are genetic Unix's (And I mean derived from their codebases, not just emulated)
And it performs just like Unix, and uses little GNU code apart from the compiler, and a few utilities not available from NeXTStep or BSD development. The major difference from most (but not all) Unixes is the use of Aqua instead of X, and that's not even unique (both NeXTStep and SunOS shipped with Non-X windowing systems)
Apple also never claimed it was UNIX Certified.
In fact Phillips has been making noises about suing peoople for selling Copy-protected CD's with the Rebook Audio logo (CD Digital Audio)
No You don't.
Kawaii=cute
Along with Sugoi (Great/Incredible), it's one of the two generic exclamations in anime.
I'm no Yankee. That's for you southerners.
One Canucklehead here.
It is Pop.
Soda is what comes in the box with the cow on it(Baking Soda).
Nissan is a subsidiary of Renault, which is certainly French. I would, like most people, call Nissan a Japanese company. I was just demonstrating the silliness of calling major multinationals a 'country' company.
Mercedes benz, like Chrysler, Jeep, Dodge and the late lamented Plymouth and Eagle are all Nameplates (This is a technical term from the Auto industry, for Brands that are different from the name of the company that actually builds the cars).
Considering that DaimlerChrysler is the result of the merger between Daimler Benz and Chrysler, and much of the board is american, as well as most of their manufacturing presence, one can call them an American company as much as a German one. Determining the actual providence of a multinational is difficult.
forex: Nissan is actually a French company (independant subsidiary of Renault)
Get your facts straight.
DaimlerChrysler (Mercedes Benz is a nameplate, not a company) is most assuredly a US company, it's also a German company.
/8 via Chrysler (Which was heavily involved with DARPA at the time IP was being rolled out, primarily for the M1 Abrams program).
And I'd suspect that they got the
But unlike many of the IT companies, they have a reduced need for IP space. BBNPlanet, AT&T, PSINet are all providers, and IBM and HP (As well as Compaq) both maintain huge semi-private networks.