I'm not arguing that society benefits from waste, quite the opposite in fact.
I'm only arguing that current measures of wealth (GDP) actually count these things on the plus side. Commuting is known to increase GDP, as is the kind of war the US is engaged in, accidents and indeed broken windows.
I was arguing GDP is a broken measure of wealth, Some agree, but it's unclear if you do!
Just like war, commuting and other essentially completely worthless phenomena, waste of programmer time makes money exchange hands, and therefore increases GNP.
In this case: who would want to be the first to go out on a limb publically and say "I want to decrease the IT sector by 50%"?
Don't blame me, I didn't design that stupid measure.
The post says "The European Parliament wants to monitor your Internet searches". The declaration said "implement Directive 2006/24/EC [Data retention] and extend it to search engines", i.e. force search engines to do data retention.
You're missing that his declaration about registering all internet searches got adopted by the parliament (it got the required 369 signatures, top declaration here). Thus, the declaration is now no longer just his, but the opinion of the European parliament.
I have never bought anything from apple, and I hope I never will. My worry is not about myself, but about the majority of internet users and what these developments will do to the market.
I don't want a world where every startup needs to ask themselves "will ths be accepted by the Apple censors?"
There's a huge difference between relying on potentially illegal modchipping and having an open platform to begin with, that lets the user choose what to install and use.
I don't worry about myself, I worry about the majority of internet users in the future, and where this development will take the market.
Just imagine a world where web pages start to get replaced by apps, controlled by apple. That is not a nice picture, but it's where current developments are taking us.
Well, no? OSX is an open computing platform, where you can compile your own binaries and where you are free to use your harware more or less as you see fit.
Also, Apple has never before been in a situation where it starting to become dominant.
No, think iPad. Do you think a disassembler or virtualisation software will be allowed to enter the App Store? Me neither.
We are already starting to lose the hardware battle to Apple. Apple owns the hardware, not you. RIAA and MPAA owns the content, not you. Then they can make deals without bothering with pesky details such as customers.
The biggest threat to information freedom today is Apple and the iOS.
docsigma2000: jesus christ man docsigma2000: my son is sooooooo dead c8info: Why? docsigma2000: hes been looking at internet web sites in fucking EUROPE docsigma2000: HE IS SURFING LONG DISTANCE docsigma2000: our fucking phone bill is gonna be nuts c8info: Ooh, this is bad. Surfing long distance adds an extra $69.99 to your bill per hour. docsigma2000:...!!!!!! FUCK FUCK FUCK docsigma2000: is there some plan we can sign up for??? docsigma2000: cuz theres some cool stuff in europe, but i dun wanna pauy that much c8info: Sorry, no. There is no plan. you'll have to live with it. docsigma2000: o well, i ccan live without europe intenet sites. docsigma2000: but till i figure out how to block it hes sooooo dead c8info: By the way, I'm from Europe, your chatting long distance. ** docsigma2000 has quit (Connection reset by peer)
So when a news agency reports about irregularities in the next election, and the government forces the story to be clearly marked as speculation and inaccurate, you see no problem with that?
Censorship regimes take many forms. You still have things to learn.
Are everyone on Slashdot failing to see what's new here?
Ubuntu has reached a kind of critical mass never before seen for any distro - they have far more non-technical users, far wider participation in the Forums and a great attitude towards newcomers.
The problem is - so far there has been no place except the forums for non-techies to participate and make their voices heard. I see four main categories of users:
1. Developers. If they see a problem, they can code a patch if necessary. 2. Technical users - these can test alpha and beta releases, and help locate bugs etc. 3. Non-technical but internet-savvy users - if they report an issue, it's often a big, missing feature (like, "I want my webcam to work") 4. Users that won't comment online in any case.
There is currently no place for the third category. Dell realized that, and it's really a shame that the FOSS community took this long to realize that there is a need for structured feedback from category three.
Kudos to Ubuntu, I wish them all luck with this initiative. Dell's ideastorm has been a success because Dell has actually listened to the community there. Let's hope Canonical etc. has the resources to fulfill some of the wishes of the community.
If you use GPL works without adhering to the license, you *are* pirating. That's why the above poster said you could as well pirate any number of other apps.
GPL is not about attribution. GPL is about not being allowed to create derivative works and keep the source hidden. A library choses GPL because it does not want applications like your to exist.
Yes, you are better off writing this code from scratch.
It means that if your ticket reservation site is a derivative of some AGPL code (in the usual GPL sense), you must release your derivative work, even though you never actually distributed it, only allowed access across a network. Nothing else.
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As long as you try to keep it running from your basement as you sort out the bad accounts, sure.
Well, the rules say that you get at least $2 in this case (the max of 20% ($2)of your price ($10) and 70% of the actual selling price ($0)).
Well, actually, I'm not :-)
I'm not arguing that society benefits from waste, quite the opposite in fact.
I'm only arguing that current measures of wealth (GDP) actually count these things on the plus side. Commuting is known to increase GDP, as is the kind of war the US is engaged in, accidents and indeed broken windows.
I was arguing GDP is a broken measure of wealth, Some agree, but it's unclear if you do!
Me too, but sadly "good use" is not a factor in GDP calculations.
Correct, but all my examples do.
Just like war, commuting and other essentially completely worthless phenomena, waste of programmer time makes money exchange hands, and therefore increases GNP.
In this case: who would want to be the first to go out on a limb publically and say "I want to decrease the IT sector by 50%"?
Don't blame me, I didn't design that stupid measure.
No, as more than 5/6 of parliament surely would override your immunity in this case.
In the TPB case, the illegality of the site is itself under question, and I don't believe 5/6 of parliament would want to override the immunity.
The post says "The European Parliament wants to monitor your Internet searches". The declaration said "implement Directive 2006/24/EC [Data retention] and extend it
to search engines", i.e. force search engines to do data retention.
I don't see what's wrong with the post.
You're missing that his declaration about registering all internet searches got adopted by the parliament (it got the required 369 signatures, top declaration here). Thus, the declaration is now no longer just his, but the opinion of the European parliament.
Porn might, ironically, be a key driver in securing a free and open internet. I agree.
I have never bought anything from apple, and I hope I never will. My worry is not about myself, but about the majority of internet users and what these developments will do to the market.
I don't want a world where every startup needs to ask themselves "will ths be accepted by the Apple censors?"
There's a huge difference between relying on potentially illegal modchipping and having an open platform to begin with, that lets the user choose what to install and use.
I don't worry about myself, I worry about the majority of internet users in the future, and where this development will take the market.
Just imagine a world where web pages start to get replaced by apps, controlled by apple. That is not a nice picture, but it's where current developments are taking us.
Well, no? OSX is an open computing platform, where you can compile your own binaries and where you are free to use your harware more or less as you see fit.
Also, Apple has never before been in a situation where it starting to become dominant.
Dominance + hardware lockdown is my issue here.
Console?
No, think iPad. Do you think a disassembler or virtualisation software will be allowed to enter the App Store? Me neither.
We are already starting to lose the hardware battle to Apple. Apple owns the hardware, not you. RIAA and MPAA owns the content, not you. Then they can make deals without bothering with pesky details such as customers.
The biggest threat to information freedom today is Apple and the iOS.
So, this bashism is no longer that funny?
...!!!!!! FUCK FUCK FUCK
http://bash.org/?142934
docsigma2000: jesus christ man
docsigma2000: my son is sooooooo dead
c8info: Why?
docsigma2000: hes been looking at internet web sites in fucking EUROPE
docsigma2000: HE IS SURFING LONG DISTANCE
docsigma2000: our fucking phone bill is gonna be nuts
c8info: Ooh, this is bad. Surfing long distance adds an extra $69.99 to your bill per hour.
docsigma2000:
docsigma2000: is there some plan we can sign up for???
docsigma2000: cuz theres some cool stuff in europe, but i dun wanna pauy that much
c8info: Sorry, no. There is no plan. you'll have to live with it.
docsigma2000: o well, i ccan live without europe intenet sites.
docsigma2000: but till i figure out how to block it hes sooooo dead
c8info: By the way, I'm from Europe, your chatting long distance.
** docsigma2000 has quit (Connection reset by peer)
The definition is - any packet that crosses the border. The fact that it will later make a reentry only means it gets recorded twice.
Are you kidding?
So when a news agency reports about irregularities in the next election, and the government forces the story to be clearly marked as speculation and inaccurate, you see no problem with that?
Censorship regimes take many forms. You still have things to learn.
Are everyone on Slashdot failing to see what's new here?
Ubuntu has reached a kind of critical mass never before seen for any distro - they have far more non-technical users, far wider participation in the Forums and a great attitude towards newcomers.
The problem is - so far there has been no place except the forums for non-techies to participate and make their voices heard. I see four main categories of users:
1. Developers. If they see a problem, they can code a patch if necessary.
2. Technical users - these can test alpha and beta releases, and help locate bugs etc.
3. Non-technical but internet-savvy users - if they report an issue, it's often a big, missing feature (like, "I want my webcam to work")
4. Users that won't comment online in any case.
There is currently no place for the third category. Dell realized that, and it's really a shame that the FOSS community took this long to realize that there is a need for structured feedback from category three.
Kudos to Ubuntu, I wish them all luck with this initiative. Dell's ideastorm has been a success because Dell has actually listened to the community there. Let's hope Canonical etc. has the resources to fulfill some of the wishes of the community.
Oh man, they removed it!
Must really be ashamed now.
In the light of Intel's actions, it's really no fun reading
http://www.intel.com/intel/worldahead/olpc.htm
Hmm....
Are we seeing the start of "128kbps are just previews, 256kpbs is what you are prepared to pay for"?
Note that robots.txt, favicon.ico and /w3c/p3p have been raised as issues for the W3C Technical Architecture Group:
http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/issues/36
See Tim B-L's original mail here:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2003Feb/0093
One can only hope that any new efforts keep this issue in mind (hint: stop polluting *everyone's* namespace!).
If you use GPL works without adhering to the license, you *are* pirating. That's why the above poster said you could as well pirate any number of other apps.
GPL is not about attribution. GPL is about not being allowed to create derivative works and keep the source hidden. A library choses GPL because it does not want applications like your to exist.
Yes, you are better off writing this code from scratch.
It means that if your ticket reservation site is a derivative of some AGPL code (in the usual GPL sense), you must release your derivative work, even though you never actually distributed it, only allowed access across a network. Nothing else.