Regarding the laws you cited, I don't really have the time to try to guess which one you thought would apply and how. I don't see how any of them apply.
If I'm an ISP, and you're a customer, when you're no longer a customer, should I collect and potentially read your personal Email?
Unless you contractually agreed not to, I don't see why not.
When you're no longer a customer, I should delete your account, and let the SMTP server handle the bonuce-backs..
OK, now what if someone else wanted to use the same account name? Are you under an obligation to not allow them to? What if you decide you want to use the same account name for your own purposes? No, if you didn't contractually agree to continue providing bounce service after account deletion you're under no obligation to do so.
550 5.1.1... User unknown
But the user is known. Besides, I see no reason why RFCs should be enforced by the U.S. government.
freedom of speech? you think holding mail for ransom is an issue of freedom of speech?
No, I think saying "No not until you pay us what you owe" is an issue of freedom of speech.
extortion(sp?) is illeagal in usa afaik.
Extortion is "the act or practice of wresting anything from a person by force, by threats, or by any undue exercise of power." The scenario you present does not involve wresting anything from a person.
also this post isn't real.
You're arguing semantics. I think it's quite obvious what I meant by the "real world".
A place where people can get physically injured and/or die.
The Us Post office used to be a small group of people on Ponys, Im sure the first time someone mentioned any type of "law" to protect these people it was shrugged off.. "Why do they need any more protection then anyone else.
Why do they? IMO people on Ponys who work for the U.S. Govt don't deserve any more protection than anyone else.
TV isnt real life is it? Yet there are laws that govern TV...
They tell you "No not until you pay us what you owe".
This is a FEDERAL OFFENSE, punishable by jail time..
Damn, and I thought we had freedom of speech. I'd like to see the U.S. Code that makes this illegal.
In any case...
Email is becoming so important to our everyday lives that maybe laws should be passed to protect email, just like they where passed to protect normal mail.
No, they shouldn't. The internet is not real life. There shouldn't be any laws whatsoever about what I do over the internet.
If you have done business with the company, it's not illegal
Unless you tell them to stop, at which point it is illegal. I've gotten two calls, one each from two of my credit card companies, and they lasted less than a minute each. Much better than when I had my "land line" and was getting two or three calls a day.
What do you mean "put your cell phone as any phone in a list?" I've had the phone for 2 years now, and I've only gotten two solicitations, which promptly stopped when I informed them I was using a cell phone.
Sort of like all the companies in a certain market mergering or buying other companies until they are the only game in town, then they get to say "Here is how we define the Windows Update EULA"...
No, actually it's nothing like that at all. It's more like a whole bunch of stockholders getting together and letting the PR department choose who to hire and who not to hire.
Unions in general don't have a monopoly on labor, they only have a monopoly on labor within a single company. That isn't a bad thing, since the company also has a monopoly on hiring power within that single company.
It's probably not going to happen. Unions tend to foster lower pay in exchange for job security and steady hours. Tech heads tend to want high pay in exchange for little job security and strange hours.
For example, at the university I graduated from, many of the folks going for a MS in Computer Science had degrees in a wide variety of subjects.
Not to knock Comp Sci majors (I mean hell, I am one), but if you're someone who is good at logic and problem solving you're not going to learn very much at all from getting an undergrad degree in CS. On the other hand, Physics may start out intuitive in Physics I and II, but once you get beyond that it's just not something you're going to be able to fake your way through. Trust me, I've tried.
As for getting into a middle-tier state university for a master's program, I've tried that too, and failed, but maybe it's possible. But if one goes that route they should expect to take 4 or 5 undergrad courses while getting their master's. Which if you're paying grad prices to take undergrad courses is perhaps a bit silly. Most places will let you go non-matriculated for 4 or 5 undergrad courses, so perhaps that's the cheapest route (unless you want to haunt the classes, which would be free if you can find the professors to let you).
except that I have a Comp Sci degree, so maybe I have a little bit more on the math side (and I'd taken Physics I&II). Anyway, one thing you need to do eventually is take the GREs. Last year I took modern physics and mathematical methods for physics at a local college (and got two As:) and then failed the hell out of the Physics GREs. Yeah, you can't fail them, but I was in the bottom 15% or something. So that told me that I was going to need more studying before I could tackle grad school. I'm now taking Quantum Mechanics, and I need to take at least Analytical Mechanics and E&M (which is not Physics II).
I've already taken Calc I and II, and Linear Algebra, which combined with Math Methods for Physics should be enough for undergrad, though it would be nice if I took Calc III (multivariable) and/or Diff EQs (both of which were covered in Math Methods, but we spent about one week on each of them).
In the mean time I passed the Physics (and Chemistry and Physical Science) Praxis exams with flying colors, so once I get my application in and processed I'll have an alternative route certificate to teach high school while getting the extra education I need (and they'll pay for my masters if I decide to do that part time).
Being primarily a phone system transmitted medium, why can't unsolicited junk email be regulated and controlled like junk fax?
It probably could. One reason it shouldn't be is because unlike telephone companies which are common carriers, ISPs can set their own regulations with regard to what content they will allow over their wires.
True they would, just fewer items then they do with a lower tax rate.
So?
Regardless of what type of tax, if they go up spending ability goes down, and tax revenue is reduced since the higher per unit tax does not compensate for the volume reduction..
No. That's not necessarily true. Volume will probably go down, but revenues might still go up.
Ever hear of the 1980's when Regan demonstrated that reducing taxes increased the tax revenue because it increased the VOLUME of spending / investments?
By the way, the Laffer curve is generally only used to describe income tax revenues. The idea is that with a 100% income tax, no one would work. With sales taxes, on the other hand, there could certainly be a 100% sales tax and people would still buy things - they'd just have to pay twice as much.
Slashdot Mirror
I'd like to see a link for how to build my own solar-powered desalination plant. Drinking quality output only, please.
Regarding the laws you cited, I don't really have the time to try to guess which one you thought would apply and how. I don't see how any of them apply.
If I'm an ISP, and you're a customer, when you're no longer a customer, should I collect and potentially read your personal Email?
Unless you contractually agreed not to, I don't see why not.
When you're no longer a customer, I should delete your account, and let the SMTP server handle the bonuce-backs..
OK, now what if someone else wanted to use the same account name? Are you under an obligation to not allow them to? What if you decide you want to use the same account name for your own purposes? No, if you didn't contractually agree to continue providing bounce service after account deletion you're under no obligation to do so.
550 5.1.1 ... User unknown
But the user is known. Besides, I see no reason why RFCs should be enforced by the U.S. government.
If physical injury or death where the only valid reason for a law or lawsuit then legal systems all over the world would have to disagree with you.
So?
It is a Federal Offfense to Assult or otherwise mess with the Mail or a Mail Man.
So?
And no law regarding TV? Sounds to me like the only law you would approve is one that says "Do not harm or kill others, anything else is fair game"
Well, I think laws should be more specific than that, but yeah.
freedom of speech? you think holding mail for ransom is an issue of freedom of speech?
No, I think saying "No not until you pay us what you owe" is an issue of freedom of speech.
extortion(sp?) is illeagal in usa afaik.
Extortion is "the act or practice of wresting anything from a person by force, by threats, or by any undue exercise of power." The scenario you present does not involve wresting anything from a person.
also this post isn't real.
You're arguing semantics. I think it's quite obvious what I meant by the "real world".
What defines "REAL" life?
A place where people can get physically injured and/or die.
The Us Post office used to be a small group of people on Ponys, Im sure the first time someone mentioned any type of "law" to protect these people it was shrugged off.. "Why do they need any more protection then anyone else.
Why do they? IMO people on Ponys who work for the U.S. Govt don't deserve any more protection than anyone else.
TV isnt real life is it? Yet there are laws that govern TV...
Yeah but there shouldn't be.
They tell you "No not until you pay us what you owe".
This is a FEDERAL OFFENSE, punishable by jail time..
Damn, and I thought we had freedom of speech. I'd like to see the U.S. Code that makes this illegal.
In any case...
Email is becoming so important to our everyday lives that maybe laws should be passed to protect email, just like they where passed to protect normal mail.
No, they shouldn't. The internet is not real life. There shouldn't be any laws whatsoever about what I do over the internet.
You should sue them in small claims court.
Well then most people are wrong.
Slashdotters play both sides of the increased government regulation war.
If you have done business with the company, it's not illegal
Unless you tell them to stop, at which point it is illegal. I've gotten two calls, one each from two of my credit card companies, and they lasted less than a minute each. Much better than when I had my "land line" and was getting two or three calls a day.
We're not talking about crime, we're talking about telemarketing.
What do you mean "put your cell phone as any phone in a list?" I've had the phone for 2 years now, and I've only gotten two solicitations, which promptly stopped when I informed them I was using a cell phone.
Having a cell phone isn't going to stop them at all.
I don't need to stop them all, I just need to stop the ones who call me. And so far, for over two years now, it's worked.
I don't get telemarketers.
Call me crazy, but I'd rather get paid for the quality of my work - not how long I've been the member of a union.
So go into consulting.
Oh, you meant you'd rather get paid for how good your negotiation skills are.
Sort of like all the companies in a certain market mergering or buying other companies until they are the only game in town, then they get to say "Here is how we define the Windows Update EULA"...
No, actually it's nothing like that at all. It's more like a whole bunch of stockholders getting together and letting the PR department choose who to hire and who not to hire.
Unions in general don't have a monopoly on labor, they only have a monopoly on labor within a single company. That isn't a bad thing, since the company also has a monopoly on hiring power within that single company.
The average UAW worker makes $65/hour before overtime.
And they'd probably make even more if they weren't part of a union.
It's probably not going to happen. Unions tend to foster lower pay in exchange for job security and steady hours. Tech heads tend to want high pay in exchange for little job security and strange hours.
For example, at the university I graduated from, many of the folks going for a MS in Computer Science had degrees in a wide variety of subjects.
Not to knock Comp Sci majors (I mean hell, I am one), but if you're someone who is good at logic and problem solving you're not going to learn very much at all from getting an undergrad degree in CS. On the other hand, Physics may start out intuitive in Physics I and II, but once you get beyond that it's just not something you're going to be able to fake your way through. Trust me, I've tried.
As for getting into a middle-tier state university for a master's program, I've tried that too, and failed, but maybe it's possible. But if one goes that route they should expect to take 4 or 5 undergrad courses while getting their master's. Which if you're paying grad prices to take undergrad courses is perhaps a bit silly. Most places will let you go non-matriculated for 4 or 5 undergrad courses, so perhaps that's the cheapest route (unless you want to haunt the classes, which would be free if you can find the professors to let you).
except that I have a Comp Sci degree, so maybe I have a little bit more on the math side (and I'd taken Physics I&II). Anyway, one thing you need to do eventually is take the GREs. Last year I took modern physics and mathematical methods for physics at a local college (and got two As :) and then failed the hell out of the Physics GREs. Yeah, you can't fail them, but I was in the bottom 15% or something. So that told me that I was going to need more studying before I could tackle grad school. I'm now taking Quantum Mechanics, and I need to take at least Analytical Mechanics and E&M (which is not Physics II).
I've already taken Calc I and II, and Linear Algebra, which combined with Math Methods for Physics should be enough for undergrad, though it would be nice if I took Calc III (multivariable) and/or Diff EQs (both of which were covered in Math Methods, but we spent about one week on each of them).
In the mean time I passed the Physics (and Chemistry and Physical Science) Praxis exams with flying colors, so once I get my application in and processed I'll have an alternative route certificate to teach high school while getting the extra education I need (and they'll pay for my masters if I decide to do that part time).
Being primarily a phone system transmitted medium, why can't unsolicited junk email be regulated and controlled like junk fax?
It probably could. One reason it shouldn't be is because unlike telephone companies which are common carriers, ISPs can set their own regulations with regard to what content they will allow over their wires.
Yeah... So are warehouses and factories already taxed...
True they would, just fewer items then they do with a lower tax rate.
So?
Regardless of what type of tax, if they go up spending ability goes down, and tax revenue is reduced since the higher per unit tax does not compensate for the volume reduction..
No. That's not necessarily true. Volume will probably go down, but revenues might still go up.
In good Slashdot Tradition, we've opened up brak.slashdot.org for you to help load test the new cluster.
C'mon, admit it, you just want the extra ad impressions so you can boost Your faltering stock above $1 long enough so you don't get delisted.
Ever hear of the 1980's when Regan demonstrated that reducing taxes increased the tax revenue because it increased the VOLUME of spending / investments?
By the way, the Laffer curve is generally only used to describe income tax revenues. The idea is that with a 100% income tax, no one would work. With sales taxes, on the other hand, there could certainly be a 100% sales tax and people would still buy things - they'd just have to pay twice as much.