Of course they can be counted as lost revenue. You really telling me that people who can't afford $10 a month are the pirates? The people with no money are a little more worried about their next meal than they are about scanning torrents for the latest episode of some TV show.
Yep. I've got a friend who has a "good" teaching job. She's grading papers at 9pm after teaching and then working on other school activities. Teachers work really, really hard for not much in the way of salary.
Kinda makes sense. They are going to remove movies at some point in time. If you happen to be watching at that point in time, bingo, you are no longer watching, and it isn't available. They could probably be nice and handle that situation more gracefully by removing from search and letting existing streams finish, but also probably doesn't happen all that often.
Funny thing, rural Vermont now gets ECFiber, high speed Internet, far faster than what most city-dwellers get. Maybe it's been a while since you've been in the country?
Yes, IT DOES MATTER. You really can't tell when trump tries to crush the free press and intimidate judges who is worse? When trump appoints oil execs to demolish pollution regulation? I don't care what you thought of Hillary, Trump is clearly worse.
That's subtle. What was that quote "a liberal is someone who reaches into your shower to turn the water down because they say you're using to much hot water."
I think the quote is "a conservative is someone who charges you 10x what hot water costs because you don't deserve hot water"
Hard to believe it's not more durable. The light switches in my house were there 40 years ago. You think a "smart switch" would work 40 years from now?
Finally they decided that it is damn to hard to snoop at work on your employees political correctness conformance trough Linux sec - you need hired people to do it, that's not good - too much public exposure. Switch to Windows - problems solved, lots of visual button level crap sniffing tools making the life and work of the newspeak conformance officer way easier.
How does trolling like this get rated "insightful"?
Right... because visiting all of the planets of our solar system, orbiting some of them, landing rovers on Mars, sending probes into interstellar space... none of that counts if we don't occasionally drop a lander on the moon.
The post I replied to at least implied that *all* of the older workers had refused to keep up and that's why there was age discrimination. I simply don't believe that. There are good and bad devs at all ages. As I said in another post, I've been working on some horrific code that was left behind by a guy a few years out of college. I agree that there's no reason to keep people who don't try to improve, but that occurs at all ages. In fact I'd argue that older workers are more accustomed to having to update skills and keep learning, they've been doing that for decades.
And there are certainly issues that arise from dealing with young workers. Not necessarily related to outdated tech, but usually more an enthusiasm for change for change's sake. Younger devs aren't used to weighing the consequences . Something may look attractive, but may not be sustainable, or may have heavy deployment costs.
I also disagree that "It's always the older people who suggest old fashioned and expensive solutions to problems". A lot of time the younger devs will be seeing a problem for the first time and think that the answer is to write more code. The older devs have seen the problem before and have knowledge about how to solve it without reinventing the wheel.
I went thru a similar situation, where my company had a product that worked great, but it was aging. It was clear that if we were going to stay in business, we needed a more modern look.
By implementing an ODBC driver to the database we were able to rewrite parts of the product gradually as a Windows client / server applications (which at the time was state of the art) while maintaining complete compatibility with the existing product. The database had been well designed so we weren't held back by maintaining this compatibility.
We were able to sell the new applications and eventually did a push and finished off a complete rewrite. It stretched out development over a few years but avoid the "we're rewriting the whole product from scratch" black hole that most companies don't emerge from.
You aren't making any sense. You do work, you get paid. The severance is ON TOP OF your last paycheck. You don't have to sign anything to get your last paycheck, you already signed before you got your first one. My last severance was two month's pay AFTER the last paycheck.
Who are these mythical "older workforce" people that refused to stay current? I know exactly one guy like that. I sure have kept up, and I started in the 70's on batch FORTRAN. And the advantage I have is when everybody raves about some exciting new tech, I can use the good parts and recognize the parts that are either reinventing the wheel, or were discarded decades ago because they were a bad idea.
This myth that older devs are universally hulking dinosaurs is just plain dumb. There are good older developers and bad ones, just like younger devs. And the idea that the younger ones have a leg up because they used the latest tech in college doesn't hold water. Tech is changing continuously. In the last few years I've gone from C++ to Ruby on Rails to.Net MVC to a single page client app in Typescript. The key is being able to learn. No one comes out of college knowing everything.
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Cry me a river.
Really? Proven??? How?
Of course they can be counted as lost revenue. You really telling me that people who can't afford $10 a month are the pirates? The people with no money are a little more worried about their next meal than they are about scanning torrents for the latest episode of some TV show.
Yep. I've got a friend who has a "good" teaching job. She's grading papers at 9pm after teaching and then working on other school activities. Teachers work really, really hard for not much in the way of salary.
As the grandparent said, if you've watched a ship sail away you can verify the curvature of the earth at sea level.
Kinda makes sense. They are going to remove movies at some point in time. If you happen to be watching at that point in time, bingo, you are no longer watching, and it isn't available. They could probably be nice and handle that situation more gracefully by removing from search and letting existing streams finish, but also probably doesn't happen all that often.
Funny thing, rural Vermont now gets ECFiber, high speed Internet, far faster than what most city-dwellers get. Maybe it's been a while since you've been in the country?
Yes, IT DOES MATTER. You really can't tell when trump tries to crush the free press and intimidate judges who is worse? When trump appoints oil execs to demolish pollution regulation? I don't care what you thought of Hillary, Trump is clearly worse.
Maybe you should relax and find something else to focus on?
Why would I want to see two apps at once on my phone? That works fine on the desktop, not so good on the small form factor.
That's subtle.
What was that quote "a liberal is someone who reaches into your shower to turn the water down because they say you're using to much hot water."
I think the quote is "a conservative is someone who charges you 10x what hot water costs because you don't deserve hot water"
Hard to believe it's not more durable. The light switches in my house were there 40 years ago. You think a "smart switch" would work 40 years from now?
I'll make it easy for you: When people self-identify as "white nationalists" they are racists. By definition.
Wrong.
Or maybe we simply won't pretend that it's ok when people who want to commit mass murder preach their hatred openly?
Finally they decided that it is damn to hard to snoop at work on your employees political correctness conformance trough Linux sec - you need hired people to do it, that's not good - too much public exposure. Switch to Windows - problems solved, lots of visual button level crap sniffing tools making the life and work of the newspeak conformance officer way easier.
How does trolling like this get rated "insightful"?
Oh yeah, slashthink.
Well, reality denial is working really well for the US government right now, I guess I can't blame you for applying it to computer O/S's
Right... because visiting all of the planets of our solar system, orbiting some of them, landing rovers on Mars, sending probes into interstellar space... none of that counts if we don't occasionally drop a lander on the moon.
The post I replied to at least implied that *all* of the older workers had refused to keep up and that's why there was age discrimination. I simply don't believe that. There are good and bad devs at all ages. As I said in another post, I've been working on some horrific code that was left behind by a guy a few years out of college. I agree that there's no reason to keep people who don't try to improve, but that occurs at all ages. In fact I'd argue that older workers are more accustomed to having to update skills and keep learning, they've been doing that for decades.
And there are certainly issues that arise from dealing with young workers. Not necessarily related to outdated tech, but usually more an enthusiasm for change for change's sake. Younger devs aren't used to weighing the consequences . Something may look attractive, but may not be sustainable, or may have heavy deployment costs.
I also disagree that "It's always the older people who suggest old fashioned and expensive solutions to problems". A lot of time the younger devs will be seeing a problem for the first time and think that the answer is to write more code. The older devs have seen the problem before and have knowledge about how to solve it without reinventing the wheel.
I went thru a similar situation, where my company had a product that worked great, but it was aging. It was clear that if we were going to stay in business, we needed a more modern look.
By implementing an ODBC driver to the database we were able to rewrite parts of the product gradually as a Windows client / server applications (which at the time was state of the art) while maintaining complete compatibility with the existing product. The database had been well designed so we weren't held back by maintaining this compatibility.
We were able to sell the new applications and eventually did a push and finished off a complete rewrite. It stretched out development over a few years but avoid the "we're rewriting the whole product from scratch" black hole that most companies don't emerge from.
Yeah I had the same situation, including the stats on who was laid off. I think that may even be a legal requirement in the USA now.
You aren't making any sense. You do work, you get paid. The severance is ON TOP OF your last paycheck. You don't have to sign anything to get your last paycheck, you already signed before you got your first one. My last severance was two month's pay AFTER the last paycheck.
And you know what? I recently worked on the worst code I've ever seen, and it was written by a kid a couple of years out of college.
Sure. Some devs are good, some are bad. But it's not correlated with age.
Who are these mythical "older workforce" people that refused to stay current? I know exactly one guy like that. I sure have kept up, and I started in the 70's on batch FORTRAN. And the advantage I have is when everybody raves about some exciting new tech, I can use the good parts and recognize the parts that are either reinventing the wheel, or were discarded decades ago because they were a bad idea.
This myth that older devs are universally hulking dinosaurs is just plain dumb. There are good older developers and bad ones, just like younger devs. And the idea that the younger ones have a leg up because they used the latest tech in college doesn't hold water. Tech is changing continuously. In the last few years I've gone from C++ to Ruby on Rails to .Net MVC to a single page client app in Typescript. The key is being able to learn. No one comes out of college knowing everything.