In our shop we have made major changes to some existing projects (one of the photographed JBoss devs comes from our dev team). But we don't do that all the time, because sometimes there is a competitive advantage in what we do, so we can't be using an existing package and improve it.
Yeah that was what I meant. The thing that makes it so damned powerful is ActiveX though.
Really, you can test it out in a webpage too if you're happy to click through the warning box. In one line you can create a new word document. You can do stuff to it, then print it bob's your uncle. (new ActiveXObject( "MSWord.Document" );// if I remember right.
Also, I can list all my emails in my inbox. You can connect via ODBC to outlook, and treat it like a (slow) database. That's just a few examples. Most people flame away at Windows without having a clue that it can do half the shit they complain it cant.
The really neat part comes in my mind two ways:
It's OO (well, sorta)
Any language baby! You know you can package up JSScript as an ActiveX object and then use it from the command line, C++, whatever?
OCAddiction.com has their GF FX 5900 Ultra vs. ATi Radeon 9800 Pro article online detailing which card is more powerful. Running a plethora of benchmarks we were anxious to see which card outperformed the other. Quite simple really. We take nVidia's top offering and pair it up against the current top offering from ATi and let them duke it out till the bitter end
You do know that windows does do piping, right? It's had that for ages.
However if you really want a command line windows isn't for you. But Windows does have more powerful scripting than unix, you just need to learn a bit about it.
Yeah, and as the development manager of a product that needs a database, I'm one of the people you ranted about. We supported many databases, including MySQL. That database has caused me more phone calls, more times scouring useless help pages than any other database. In fact, more than *all other databases combined*.
examples:
A customer had configured to do a backup of the MySQL directory. No problem, you would think. Only they tell me that MySQL has randomly quit. So I restarted it, and set the service to restart on failure. 2 weeks later, it has crashed about 6 times in that period. Of course the MySQL error log doesn't say anything about this, it just crashed *poof* no message.
Turns out it was crashing at the same time as the database backup. OK, no problem, we can fix.
Customer complains that certain pages are running very slowly. A few hundred thousand rows in the database, nothing huge. Oh.. a couple of joins... yeah, not so good. So we check the speed of the database. MySQL takes 25 minutes to return from the same query that SQL Server takes *8 seconds*. In addition if you limit to top 1000 rows, SQLServer is sub-second, and MySQL is 25 minutes. Database re-order required to fix.
We get occasional random failures of data integrity against MySQL, but not against anything else. Only happens under load. Turns out the mm mysql jdbc driver isn't threadsafe, it swaps parameters around on concurrently executing transactions. Good for it! all other drivers are OK.
Occasional total lockups reported. Reproducably we can lock up MySQL 3 under load. No "deadlocked transaction", or anything, but broken database no answer query anymore.
Some queries fail completely on MySQL. We tried them from the command line, and we got an error message rather like "Got code 28 from table handler". Screw that for a joke.
We tried to do an upgrade of MySQL, but (probably due to our own fault) the service hadnt stopped, so the binaries weren't updated. Only the my.ini file was. And we added a new option that was only supported in the new version. But this went unnoticed for months until customer restarts computer (since mysql had stayed running) and *boom* mysql won't start. Nothing to the error log, nothing if you try to start it up not as a service. It just goes start->stop. Haha, turns out if you add parameters on it doesn't understand to my.ini it doesn't have the grace to tell you it just goes *poof* I'm outta here.
That, and all the shit that MySQL doesn't support (check out the website, views are scheduled for version 6!) mean that if you have any skin in the game stay the heck away from MySQL. I've dropped support for MySQL, and asked the Sales VP to tell his sales guys not to sell it as a supported database. That's why.
If you work where I do, they do a backflip. They're breathing down your neck something chronic for new features, get it shipped, now now now now now. Then you get an inbox full of "urgent" emails complaining about quality and how could the incompetent developers possibly let anything out that isn't 100% perfect.
In one of my finer acts of restraint, I merely deleted the emails.
No it doesn't beg the question. Begging the question has got nothing to do with suggesting a follow up question, statement or thought. Read up on what it means, you won't look silly if you use it in conversation that way.
Heh, Windows XP on VMWare.... you don't even see the scrolling status bar, it starts up that quickly. Seriously, about 2-3 seconds from start to login screen.
Of course, or VM server was a dual 2.4GHz Xeon.....
Heh, well I suppose that's the difference between someone designing for intranets (me) and someone that has to be able to support the public internet and whatever there is out there.
Unfortunately my design process is more like
Write HTML that MSDN tells me I can
Write the CSS that MSDN tells me I can
Work around a few oddities, test in the different IEs that we support, and away you go.
Of course, more CSS support wouldn't go astray. That and the PNG support are my peeves.
See, that's because you only see IE from the user point of view. Microsoft aren't targetting their users with newer version of IE, they're targetting web developers.
IE 5.5, and IE6 have fantastic new functionality for web designers, if they only want to run in IE. In terms of features, nothing comes close to IE. You really should check out XML data islands and behaviors as a method of constructing web applications.
ft's browser is in the dark ages. I'm not sure they care anymore. When the internet (aka.com) bubble burst, M$ moved on
Nahhh... Microsoft just know who to target. You would think that users are the correct target for a browser, but they aren't. Microsoft have spent their effort targetting developers.
Have an MSDN subscription? lots of cheap MS software. Install the MSDN, get the best HTML, DHTML and JavaScript documentation that I have seen in any form. Internet explorer has a massive array of functionality to woo developers. We're using some highly IE specific functionality to provide a very rich client... rather than installing a thick client, we can require users to have IE and we can use data binding, DHTML and ActiveX to provide a very smooth user experience. A lot of this functionality arrived in IE 5.0, got a lot better in 5.5 and refined in 6.0. Who says IE is standing still?
Am I the only person that *only* cares about my personal files and not about the system? That thinks the computer is here to do stuff for me, not for me to protect the stupid computer?
Corruption of personal files is *catastrophic*. Imagine your house burns down, what do you want to save most? Do you say "Oh, we saved the house, but all your personal stuff is gone". That's just completely backwards. If the OS can't save me from a virus mucking with the personal files, then I don't give a damn about the system files, they can be fixed.
From someone who with their first deployment of MySQL into a live environment went completely pear shaped, MySQL crashing several times per day. The damned thing doesn't report ANYTHING to the error log, except "I'm starting up again, and oohhh look at all that corrupt data, I hope I can do something about that!". I would never touch the database again, not with a 10 foot bargepole.
We're dropping that pile of crap faster than you can click the hyperlink on the MySQL website which says it may take up to two weeks to get any kind of support even in the case of an emergency.
We're now using MSDE for low powered embedded installations that the MySQL crowd had pushed prior to this. Who would have thought, use the Microsoft solution because the open source one doesn't cut it.
Sorry, it's been a long week of conference calls and VPNs in the middle of the night because MySQL decided to crash once again.
That's what I do, except use an InternalError instead. Then you *really* get to know about it;-)
I've never understood why if you have an exception that cannot happen anyone would ever want to ignore if it did. It makes no sense! You would want to know if it happened in the noisiest, loudest way! Some plonker will come along and change your code and the exception will then be able to occur.
But it only runs win9x, last I checked. It's next to useless.
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Rest of the quote is that he, the director of the patent office, was requesting more funding, and that
"Anyone that would deny my must think that everything that can be invented has been invented"
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In our shop we have made major changes to some existing projects (one of the photographed JBoss devs comes from our dev team). But we don't do that all the time, because sometimes there is a competitive advantage in what we do, so we can't be using an existing package and improve it.
Really, you can test it out in a webpage too if you're happy to click through the warning box. In one line you can create a new word document. You can do stuff to it, then print it bob's your uncle. (new ActiveXObject( "MSWord.Document" ); // if I remember right.
Also, I can list all my emails in my inbox. You can connect via ODBC to outlook, and treat it like a (slow) database. That's just a few examples. Most people flame away at Windows without having a clue that it can do half the shit they complain it cant.
The really neat part comes in my mind two ways:
Right-oh.
However if you really want a command line windows isn't for you. But Windows does have more powerful scripting than unix, you just need to learn a bit about it.
examples:
A customer had configured to do a backup of the MySQL directory. No problem, you would think. Only they tell me that MySQL has randomly quit. So I restarted it, and set the service to restart on failure. 2 weeks later, it has crashed about 6 times in that period. Of course the MySQL error log doesn't say anything about this, it just crashed *poof* no message.
Turns out it was crashing at the same time as the database backup. OK, no problem, we can fix.
Customer complains that certain pages are running very slowly. A few hundred thousand rows in the database, nothing huge. Oh.. a couple of joins... yeah, not so good. So we check the speed of the database. MySQL takes 25 minutes to return from the same query that SQL Server takes *8 seconds*. In addition if you limit to top 1000 rows, SQLServer is sub-second, and MySQL is 25 minutes. Database re-order required to fix.
We get occasional random failures of data integrity against MySQL, but not against anything else. Only happens under load. Turns out the mm mysql jdbc driver isn't threadsafe, it swaps parameters around on concurrently executing transactions. Good for it! all other drivers are OK.
Occasional total lockups reported. Reproducably we can lock up MySQL 3 under load. No "deadlocked transaction", or anything, but broken database no answer query anymore.
Some queries fail completely on MySQL. We tried them from the command line, and we got an error message rather like "Got code 28 from table handler". Screw that for a joke.
We tried to do an upgrade of MySQL, but (probably due to our own fault) the service hadnt stopped, so the binaries weren't updated. Only the my.ini file was. And we added a new option that was only supported in the new version. But this went unnoticed for months until customer restarts computer (since mysql had stayed running) and *boom* mysql won't start. Nothing to the error log, nothing if you try to start it up not as a service. It just goes start->stop. Haha, turns out if you add parameters on it doesn't understand to my.ini it doesn't have the grace to tell you it just goes *poof* I'm outta here.
That, and all the shit that MySQL doesn't support (check out the website, views are scheduled for version 6!) mean that if you have any skin in the game stay the heck away from MySQL. I've dropped support for MySQL, and asked the Sales VP to tell his sales guys not to sell it as a supported database. That's why.
In one of my finer acts of restraint, I merely deleted the emails.
Twit.
No it doesn't beg the question. Begging the question has got nothing to do with suggesting a follow up question, statement or thought. Read up on what it means, you won't look silly if you use it in conversation that way.
Of course, or VM server was a dual 2.4GHz Xeon.....
Please don't use a phrase you don't understand. It grates.
Unfortunately my design process is more like
Work around a few oddities, test in the different IEs that we support, and away you go.
Of course, more CSS support wouldn't go astray. That and the PNG support are my peeves.
IE 5.5, and IE6 have fantastic new functionality for web designers, if they only want to run in IE. In terms of features, nothing comes close to IE. You really should check out XML data islands and behaviors as a method of constructing web applications.
Gone are the heady days when IE only had 95%!
Or you could use a labelled break.
Huzzah!! It's a holiday in the commonwealth on monday!
Nahhh... Microsoft just know who to target. You would think that users are the correct target for a browser, but they aren't. Microsoft have spent their effort targetting developers.
Have an MSDN subscription? lots of cheap MS software. Install the MSDN, get the best HTML, DHTML and JavaScript documentation that I have seen in any form. Internet explorer has a massive array of functionality to woo developers. We're using some highly IE specific functionality to provide a very rich client... rather than installing a thick client, we can require users to have IE and we can use data binding, DHTML and ActiveX to provide a very smooth user experience. A lot of this functionality arrived in IE 5.0, got a lot better in 5.5 and refined in 6.0. Who says IE is standing still?
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And it only works against some vendors. We're a vendor that sign an escrow agreement with customers so they do get the code should we fold.
Corruption of personal files is *catastrophic*. Imagine your house burns down, what do you want to save most? Do you say "Oh, we saved the house, but all your personal stuff is gone". That's just completely backwards. If the OS can't save me from a virus mucking with the personal files, then I don't give a damn about the system files, they can be fixed.
From someone who with their first deployment of MySQL into a live environment went completely pear shaped, MySQL crashing several times per day. The damned thing doesn't report ANYTHING to the error log, except "I'm starting up again, and oohhh look at all that corrupt data, I hope I can do something about that!". I would never touch the database again, not with a 10 foot bargepole.
We're dropping that pile of crap faster than you can click the hyperlink on the MySQL website which says it may take up to two weeks to get any kind of support even in the case of an emergency.
We're now using MSDE for low powered embedded installations that the MySQL crowd had pushed prior to this. Who would have thought, use the Microsoft solution because the open source one doesn't cut it.
Sorry, it's been a long week of conference calls and VPNs in the middle of the night because MySQL decided to crash once again.
I've never understood why if you have an exception that cannot happen anyone would ever want to ignore if it did. It makes no sense! You would want to know if it happened in the noisiest, loudest way! Some plonker will come along and change your code and the exception will then be able to occur.
I once heard that Windows users liked windows because it wasn't 20 years old, and Unix users like Unix because it is 20 years old.
But it only runs win9x, last I checked. It's next to useless.
Rest of the quote is that he, the director of the patent office, was requesting more funding, and that
"Anyone that would deny my must think that everything that can be invented has been invented"
Hey! Slashbot!
It's selling them that's illegal, not using them!
Yes.