Of course, in Netscape's case, their products were (and STILL are) absolute crap, particularly the browser. It's ironic that the DOJ cited Microsoft giving away the browser, even though Netscape did that for years. Microsoft did screw up their argument, though. They should have argued that a browser is an expected utility in a modern operating system (same as Linux, Be, etc, etc), and they would have won. It was stupid to distract everyone with the "it can't be removed" argument.
Technically, you're wrong. Until Micro$oft forced Nutscrape to make the browser free (IE 3.0, I think), Navigator was/not/ free. You could download a free trial, but if you continued to use it past 30 days, you were legally obligated to shell out to Netscape. That's what forced them to make nav free -- businesses would use IE to avoid paying netscape to make 3000 desktops legal.
OK. This is reading a bit too much into this, I believe. Looks to me like Katz decided it'd be fun to poke at a really bad movie. Nothing more.
Why in the hell does everything have to be so damned complicated for you f**king people? Do you feel the need to find the conspiracy in everything. Yes, the people who post to the front page have opinions. That does not make them bad people, or less worthy of posting.
And if you're wondering why this contest exists? It's because somebody decided it'd be fun. If you don't fuckin' like it, dont fuckin' read and quit your bitching, or go run your own site. We don't own/. Taco does. Get used to it.
Um... have you been smoking? From a purely financial standpoint, that idea is very very bad. It doesn't make any sense to save money on bandwidth just to toss it to the ambulance chasers, and publicists (University of *** Encouraging Piracy! News at 11).
So when are the SMP capable AMD chips going to come out (or did I just miss something)?
AMD Athlons are based on the DEC^H^H^HCompaq Alpha EV6 bus. They are SMP capable. The AMD 750 chipset did not support SMP, however, nor does the VIA KX133 (IIRC). Chipsets and motherboards for SMP are coming -- Tyan has announced one for fall of this year.
To the point where 2X400MHz CPUs is a whole lot faster than 4X200MHz.
Depends on what you're doing, my boy. If you're running 4 different CPU-hungry jobs, a 4X200 may well be faster than a 2X400 -- assuming everything else about the processors is equal.
This is from an internal mailing list at my school (names have been removed to protect the guilty). Basically, my employer/school is using a clause in the Acceptable Use policy that states if it uses too much bandwidth and endangers legit operations, it's done. 30% of multiple T3s and at least one OC3 (Internet2) is a lot of bandwidth, and Networking Services is tight on cash.
Life sucks, get a helmet.
Subject: Policy change: Permanent prohibition of Napster application
The following is a notice of a permanent prohibition of the Napster application, effective immediately.
Date & Time: Effective immediately and indefinitely
Affected systems: This prohibition will effect all University of Minnesota network-connected systems.
Impact: There will be no impact on those not running the Napster applcation. Those with Napster installed on systems under their control should remove the application as soon as possible.
Description: The Napster application, which recently has represented as much as 30% of the total network traffic across the University of Minnesota's border, has been identified as violating the University's Acceptable Use Policy, by "overloading... networks with excessive data." It is therefore prohibited on computer systems connected to University of Minnesota networks. The application must be removed from such systems; any further use of the program, or attempts to circumvent enforcement of the prohibition, may result in disciplinary action.
Here's the problem with that idea. I know approximately how US Worst's DSL is set up.
Basically, the ISP contracts with US Worst for a MegaCentral line -- it's an ATM feed over a DS1/DS3/etc. at a higher price than a regular DS1/DS3/etc. When a customer connects (via a MegaBit subscriber line) to another ISP, we'll take the fine local ISP visi.com as an example, the traffice passes through the DSLAM at the US Worst CO, into US Worst's (oversubscribed) ATM cloud -- don't forget that ATM has quality of service built in, and it wouldn't surprise me personally if USWest.net traffic had a higher QoS -- and through the MegaCentral line to the ISP. All traffic is passing through US Worst's ATM cloud before getting to *any* ISP.
IANATW (I am not a telecom weasel), so don't take this as gospel.
No, he's not putting money anywhere than in his bank account at the moment. If he were putting his money where his mouth is he would be refusing to ship through Amazon.
Wrong. If he decided that O'Reilly (the company) would no longer ship through Amazon, his company loses money. He is not the company, and other people have an interest in that money. Can you say shareholder lawsuit? I thought so.
This is correct and this is why Slade must be stopped. It really would not hurt to launch a slashdot style harass his hosting services and discurage people from using his stuff attack.. just to get warmed up for when someone with money tries it. It would also help increase mindshare for the GPL which brings me to your other point:
Not a good idea. Really, do you think that this makes GPL advocates more credible? There are other legit users of the same hosting service, and you'd be subjecting them to a DoS as well (that is what you're talking about). Going down to his level, or worse, a 133t skr1pt k1dd33 level, will not do any good. Just don't download, don't play it, and send him a calm letter telling Slade how you feel about his abuse of the GPL.
Actually, no. It stands for Stanford University Network, since Sun started as a couple of students there who built a machine (the SUN 1) to run BSD Unix.;)
IANAL, but I seem to remember a few discussions at the University of Minnesota (my employer, and in no way are these words the opinion of them, etc.) about Usenet. The department that ran the news servers would not block access to any of the newsgroups on the grounds that the University would no longer be a common carrier, and then would hence be liable for what they *didn't* block.
Does this make any sense to someone with legal training? Does Clemson become responsible for other content that isn't blocked once they are no longer a common carrier? Does that affect sites that block Napster? (I'm not saying that banning MP3s would break this, that's a policy issue. They could even say "Don't do that" and it wouldn't break the status of common carrier in my mind)
Do you help the farmers who grow the food that you eat? Do you contribute in some way to the process that puts food on your table every day? Then, by your arguments, perhaps you should "get lost by all means" and go grow your own food.
No, I don't help the farmers grow the food. I pay them for it. Are you suggesting that those users who want benefit from a system without any hardship to themselves (financial, time spent learning, etc) should have that as a right? Are we a world of gerbils? I mean, is it really that hard to get off your figurative arse and work a little for something?
Will the farmers, and the people who package the food, ship it to the store, run the store and put it in a bag for me give me the food for free? Will they cook it for me if I don't want to learn how to use a stove? If you're not willing to work for something, you don't deserve to have it.
Those people who use Windows? They want someone else to do the work for them, and they pay them (Micro$oft) to do it. The people who use Linux? They're generally grateful for what they've been given, and they work for the rest by learning.
There is no such thing as free (beer) software -- it requires time and effort to learn how to use it.
Well, before you go and give Minnesotans crap about electing Ventura, take a look at the other choices -- we've got an arrogant asshole (Norm Coleman) who's driven the finances of the capital city into the ground (as its mayor), and the other major candidate (Humphrey) came off as spineless and had some odd ideas.
Basically, Jesse can do the least harm, since nobody takes his boneheaded ideas seriously, and -- face it -- he's fun. He's not only the governor, he gives a few talk show hosts filler material and gives Minnesotans something to complain about.
The Newton never used Graffiti, IIRC. Apple had a completely different technology that was called (I think) rosetta.
While Graffiti is similar in execution to unistroke, rosetta was very different. Graffiti forces the user to write a certain way, while Apple's tech would adapt to you. By the end, Apple was getting decent recognition of cursive writing.
Sadly, however, the Newton is dead. Long live the Newton!
Rumors abound that Apple is licensing PalmOS for a new set of handhelds, possibly including the rosetta technology.
OK. That's fine. You want it done right. But Jesus -- that doesn't mean that you have to do it yourself! Can you say micro-management? I thought so.
Ah, dammit, he'll change his mind about it in time to make a DVD release for Xmas shopping next year. Probably the day after thanksgiving it'll be available.
These patches are available, however they are considered (extremely) beta. I would not run them on anything but a test system until more people are beating on them.
Of course, if you're willing to hack a little, load 'em up (especially if you have a variety of OS's and versions on NFS server) and report bugs to the kernel list.
Starbuck, anyone? Download from your favorite mirror. RH 5.9.x -- sounds like a 6.0 prerelease to me.
Its been a while too btw... I hope they arent getting slow because of the corp idealogy red tape crap. Its always the case, the bigger the company the slower they get till they are damn loosers
I don't think that you understand. They don't want another RH 5.0 fiasco. Ya know, rawhide has been improving rapidly for a while. Taking a little bit of time to make sure it works is not a bad thing.
ObFlamebait: At least they're not rushing it like Gnome 1.0... hmm... printing is usually a feature of a 1.0 release...
I'm a republican...but I like libertarians too. If Jesse Ventura ran for Pres, I'd vote for him.:)
You would not feel that way if you live in Minnesota. We didn't elect a governor, we elected a political whore who's just out to make his own life better.
Case in point -- he recently went to Hollywood to try to get filmmakers to do shit in MN. Sounds good, right? Well, he also took his son with him, and his son just happens to be an aspiring filmmaker. Hmmm...
One of his first actions a governor was to propose eliminating a tax on personal watercraft (he just happens to own three himself). He said something like "I don't see why we should all have to pay extra so the cops can come around and bust us." (the tax was to pay for additional law enforcement to protect public safety, since people tend to be assholes on personal watercraft).
This doesn't seem like that portable of a solution. How about this:
Remember the old, original, amber screen Compaq luggables? About the same size (maybe a little more power consumption;), better keyboard IMHO.
There's already a Linux/86 port that should run. You'll need to manually port the MMU-less version to the Mac Plus. (Have fun getting (cr)apple to give you those)
Don't get me wrong -- I like Macs, but this isn't a good linux machine. Now, it might work as a serial console...
Slashdot Mirror
Of course, in Netscape's case, their products were (and STILL are) absolute crap, particularly the browser. It's ironic that the DOJ cited Microsoft giving away the browser, even though Netscape did that for years. Microsoft did screw up their argument, though. They should have argued that a browser is an expected utility in a modern operating system (same as Linux, Be, etc, etc), and they would have won. It was stupid to distract everyone with the "it can't be removed" argument.
Technically, you're wrong. Until Micro$oft forced Nutscrape to make the browser free (IE 3.0, I think), Navigator was /not/ free. You could download a free trial, but if you continued to use it past 30 days, you were legally obligated to shell out to Netscape. That's what forced them to make nav free -- businesses would use IE to avoid paying netscape to make 3000 desktops legal.
The Slashdot Sig Virus
Hey, baby, infect me!
Why in the hell does everything have to be so damned complicated for you f**king people? Do you feel the need to find the conspiracy in everything. Yes, the people who post to the front page have opinions. That does not make them bad people, or less worthy of posting.
And if you're wondering why this contest exists? It's because somebody decided it'd be fun. If you don't fuckin' like it, dont fuckin' read and quit your bitching, or go run your own site. We don't own /. Taco does. Get used to it.
Calm down, have some dip.
The Slashdot Sig Virus
Hey, baby, infect me!
They own a trademark for a lifelike rubber doll called "Barbie".
I know this is offtopic, but ... damn , what are you smoking? LIFELIKE? Sure.
The Slashdot Sig Virus
Hey, baby, infect me!
The Slashdot Sig Virus
Hey, baby, infect me!
So when are the SMP capable AMD chips going to come out (or did I just miss something)?
AMD Athlons are based on the DEC^H^H^HCompaq Alpha EV6 bus. They are SMP capable. The AMD 750 chipset did not support SMP, however, nor does the VIA KX133 (IIRC). Chipsets and motherboards for SMP are coming -- Tyan has announced one for fall of this year.
The Slashdot Sig Virus
Hey, baby, infect me!
Depends on what you're doing, my boy. If you're running 4 different CPU-hungry jobs, a 4X200 may well be faster than a 2X400 -- assuming everything else about the processors is equal.
Life sucks, get a helmet.
Subject: Policy change: Permanent prohibition of Napster application
The following is a notice of a permanent prohibition of the Napster application, effective immediately.
Date & Time: Effective immediately and indefinitely
Affected systems: This prohibition will effect all University of Minnesota network-connected systems.
Impact: There will be no impact on those not running the Napster applcation. Those with Napster installed on systems under their control should remove the application as soon as possible.
Description: The Napster application, which recently has represented as much as 30% of the total network traffic across the University of Minnesota's border, has been identified as violating the University's Acceptable Use Policy, by "overloading ... networks with excessive data." It is therefore prohibited on computer systems connected to University of Minnesota networks. The application must be removed from such systems; any further use of the program, or attempts to circumvent enforcement of the prohibition, may result in disciplinary action.
Basically, the ISP contracts with US Worst for a MegaCentral line -- it's an ATM feed over a DS1/DS3/etc. at a higher price than a regular DS1/DS3/etc. When a customer connects (via a MegaBit subscriber line) to another ISP, we'll take the fine local ISP visi.com as an example, the traffice passes through the DSLAM at the US Worst CO, into US Worst's (oversubscribed) ATM cloud -- don't forget that ATM has quality of service built in, and it wouldn't surprise me personally if USWest.net traffic had a higher QoS -- and through the MegaCentral line to the ISP. All traffic is passing through US Worst's ATM cloud before getting to *any* ISP.
IANATW (I am not a telecom weasel), so don't take this as gospel.
No, he's not putting money anywhere than in his bank account at the moment. If he were putting his money where his mouth is he would be refusing to ship through Amazon.
Wrong. If he decided that O'Reilly (the company) would no longer ship through Amazon, his company loses money. He is not the company, and other people have an interest in that money. Can you say shareholder lawsuit? I thought so.
This is correct and this is why Slade must be stopped. It really would not hurt to launch a slashdot style harass his hosting services and discurage people from using his stuff attack.. just to get warmed up for when someone with money tries it. It would also help increase mindshare for the GPL which brings me to your other point:
Not a good idea. Really, do you think that this makes GPL advocates more credible? There are other legit users of the same hosting service, and you'd be subjecting them to a DoS as well (that is what you're talking about). Going down to his level, or worse, a 133t skr1pt k1dd33 level, will not do any good. Just don't download, don't play it, and send him a calm letter telling Slade how you feel about his abuse of the GPL.
Actually, no. It stands for Stanford University Network, since Sun started as a couple of students there who built a machine (the SUN 1) to run BSD Unix. ;)
Disclaimer: my memory is often faulty.
Does this make any sense to someone with legal training? Does Clemson become responsible for other content that isn't blocked once they are no longer a common carrier? Does that affect sites that block Napster? (I'm not saying that banning MP3s would break this, that's a policy issue. They could even say "Don't do that" and it wouldn't break the status of common carrier in my mind)
Do you help the farmers who grow the food that you eat? Do you contribute in some way to the process that puts food on your table every day? Then, by your arguments, perhaps you should "get lost by all means" and go grow your own food.
No, I don't help the farmers grow the food. I pay them for it. Are you suggesting that those users who want benefit from a system without any hardship to themselves (financial, time spent learning, etc) should have that as a right? Are we a world of gerbils? I mean, is it really that hard to get off your figurative arse and work a little for something?
Will the farmers, and the people who package the food, ship it to the store, run the store and put it in a bag for me give me the food for free? Will they cook it for me if I don't want to learn how to use a stove? If you're not willing to work for something, you don't deserve to have it.
Those people who use Windows? They want someone else to do the work for them, and they pay them (Micro$oft) to do it. The people who use Linux? They're generally grateful for what they've been given, and they work for the rest by learning.
There is no such thing as free (beer) software -- it requires time and effort to learn how to use it.
Well, before you go and give Minnesotans crap about electing Ventura, take a look at the other choices -- we've got an arrogant asshole (Norm Coleman) who's driven the finances of the capital city into the ground (as its mayor), and the other major candidate (Humphrey) came off as spineless and had some odd ideas.
Basically, Jesse can do the least harm, since nobody takes his boneheaded ideas seriously, and -- face it -- he's fun. He's not only the governor, he gives a few talk show hosts filler material and gives Minnesotans something to complain about.
The Newton never used Graffiti, IIRC. Apple had a completely different technology that was called (I think) rosetta.
While Graffiti is similar in execution to unistroke, rosetta was very different. Graffiti forces the user to write a certain way, while Apple's tech would adapt to you. By the end, Apple was getting decent recognition of cursive writing.
Sadly, however, the Newton is dead. Long live the Newton!
Rumors abound that Apple is licensing PalmOS for a new set of handhelds, possibly including the rosetta technology.OK. That's fine. You want it done right. But Jesus -- that doesn't mean that you have to do it yourself! Can you say micro-management? I thought so.
Ah, dammit, he'll change his mind about it in time to make a DVD release for Xmas shopping next year. Probably the day after thanksgiving it'll be available.
Greedy weasel.
These patches are available, however they are considered (extremely) beta. I would not run them on anything but a test system until more people are beating on them.
Of course, if you're willing to hack a little, load 'em up (especially if you have a variety of OS's and versions on NFS server) and report bugs to the kernel list.
ObFlamebait:
At least they're not rushing it like Gnome 1.0... hmm... printing is usually a feature of a 1.0 release...
You would not feel that way if you live in Minnesota. We didn't elect a governor, we elected a political whore who's just out to make his own life better.
Case in point -- he recently went to Hollywood to try to get filmmakers to do shit in MN. Sounds good, right? Well, he also took his son with him, and his son just happens to be an aspiring filmmaker. Hmmm...
One of his first actions a governor was to propose eliminating a tax on personal watercraft (he just happens to own three himself). He said something like "I don't see why we should all have to pay extra so the cops can come around and bust us." (the tax was to pay for additional law enforcement to protect public safety, since people tend to be assholes on personal watercraft).
This doesn't seem like that portable of a solution. How about this:
Remember the old, original, amber screen Compaq luggables? About the same size (maybe a little more power consumption
There's already a Linux/86 port that should run. You'll need to manually port the MMU-less version to the Mac Plus. (Have fun getting (cr)apple to give you those)
Don't get me wrong -- I like Macs, but this isn't a good linux machine. Now, it might work as a serial console...