If a company with ten floors of an office building and ten million dollars of print equipment "steals" my work, I would use it to my advantage to self-promote.
Except that they'd slap someone else's name on it, and you'd look like a nut claiming it was yours.
And you'd have no recourse. They'd get all the credit and all the money.
What might be good is if they write a "GPLv3 for Developers" guide.
The GPLv3 text itself would serve as the legal document, and the guide would be a non-legally-binding text that would explain the terms of the GPLv3 in more familiar language.
Half of what makes licenses like the GPL hard to read is all the legalese they have to play with to close holes and leave little room for legal maneuvering. But if they could explain their terms outside the context of a legally binding document, that would probably make life easier.
It's the result of the creators time, effort, and capital.
That you can copy it for free doesn't make giving it to a million random people online moral or ethical, since said creator now has to compete for people against the very thing they made, which they can get for free. They may still have something to pay back, you don't.
Piracy will continue until it becomes the accepted mode of acquisition.
Once an attitude of entitlement becomes common among "fans," they'll wonder why people ever pay for stuff.
Then fewer and fewer people will agree to pay for stuff, being raised on the idea that you can just go and download it.
At which point many who make stuff now will likely stop, because there's no benefit. They'll have to get people willing to put up a lot of money beforehand to create something, or it won't get made. This will pretty much put one hell of a limiter on the rate at which creative works are produced, as few people are willing to buy something they aren't familiar with (hey, isn't that why people pirate music and movies?)
So while it won't stop, it'll come to one hell of a trickle. People who used to be able to make a living at it will force it to part time, then probably give up on it entirely once every other demand in life settles in and takes all of their time. "Creativity" and "Art" will become a hobby for those who have time, instead of being viable on their own for those who wish to attempt.
Some have done that. Bandai did it for Escaflowne and AN Entertainment did it for Risky Safety. However, much of the time it's easier to just re-translate it, since they've got translators on hand and much more in terms of translation resources.
Also, the Japanese often demand a say in how things are translated some times, if they don't do it all themselves (see Zeta Gundam and Love Hina.)
One a show is announced they generally expect sites and fansub groups to delist it. Those that don't get a nice letter saying "stop or else." Those that do stop, don't.
Well do you mean the first Evangelion release? The one from back in 2000? Yeah, that was made from the best analog masters they had at the time, but the Japanese video wasn't much better. Then GAINAX remastered it and ADV released the remastered version here in the US, which is phenominally better than the old release.
Other than that I don't see how you can compare ADV to MS and the RIAA. And everything else in your rant makes no sense, or is completely false.
- amateur voice actors: they've gotten some fairly high profile people, and many people working for them have been doing this thing for years. Of course, if you want a fair discussion of dubs you'll have to do it at animeondvd.com because I don't listen to dubs.
- sitting on series: every company licenses a series then releases it down the line. It's called building a back catalog and is insurance against something happening that stops new series. Also, they can't pick up a bunch of new series then dump them on the market, as that'd damage it. Also, ADV has not announced any new licenses this past year, which is uncommon for them.
- Unlike MS, they have neither a monopoly, nor engaged in anticompetitive practices. Their products are generally good to great in quality, and they listen to the audience.
Oh, and they don't use Macrovision or CSS on --ANY-- of their DVDs. How about that?
Well, the price is largely influenced by licensing cost.
US production costs aren't that high, but little of their costs are offset by advertising. And generally the single largest stream of income they have is DVD sales, which is why the MSRP is $29.99 despite them being available for much less if you buy at the right places online.
It's about paying the licensor. Right, paying them for their time, effort, and the capital they expended in creating the show.
You didn't seriously think they made it for FREE, did you?
Corporations only feel hits to their wallets and that's exactly where we have to hit them if we expect them to treat us with respect.
The only one showing disrespect here is you, since you feel so entitled to their work without ever compensating them for their effort. US companies, however, have made every effort to convince people to buy, trying to secure extras for inclusion with their products that would previously not have been available outside Japan.
They're trying. You're just ignoring them and ranting.
Because they have to recoup the costs of the license?
You don't seem to realize that the audience for a given anime series is many many times smaller than the audience for any single show on national television in America. So much smaller that they do not have the following:
- Advertising support - Millions of viewers weekly
Which alone guarantees that the show is either paid for entirely by advertising, such as reality TV shows which are cheap to make. That and with millions of viewers you're guaranteed a large audience willing to buy the shows on DVD.
The anime companies in the US have none of that. Advertising doesn't even cover licensing expenses much of the time. They are VERY DEPENDENT on the fanbase supporting them.
And no, they have pointed out the conflict and the possible problems but they have -never- pursued a group nor gotten on anyone's case unless the series had been both licensed AND announced, The only exception was GANTZ and even then people were expecting it to be announced.
I see this and it tells me you only shop at places like Suncoast, which always charge full MSRP for stuff.
Look around online at legit shops like deepdiscountdvd.com or dvdplanet.com (or my fave, dvdplanet.com) and you can find shows for just over half MSRP.
That and ADV is releasing a lot of shows that only came out this year as thinpak complete collections. While they lack extras (which are of variable quality), you can get an entire show for $30-$60 in a nice, small box. And you support the industry as a whole.
The money is from the fact that a lot of morons will pay $24.95 for a DVD with three or four episodes on it. Yeah, because that's near full MSRP. I buy online at dvdpacific.com where I can get them for $16 to $19 per disc. That's the price to pay if you want to support what you enjoy. And it's probably the best price the world over, considering the Japanese pay 5x that for TWO episodes.
Thanks, but I'll take a fansub instead. You may think you're only spitting on the US licensor, but you're also spitting on the creator as well.
It's available earlier You can do that when you ignore both the law and paying the creator for their time and effort.
the translation is rarely better (although rife with typos and other silliness) Fixed that for you.
and I don't have to rip it to avoid the stupid non-skippable intro animations on anime DVDs, especially those from ADV films. What non-skippable intros? I hit the menu button during the FBI logo on all of my DVDs and it jumps right to the menu. Every anime company does that (even ADV.)
I have been one of those morons on occasion There we go. Only morons support that which they like. Everyone else screws them over.
It fails to mention ADV's recent financial troubles, highlighted by the fact that in the past year they've had to give up funding the creation of several new shows and didn't announce any licenses during this year's con season (which is very unusual.)
It also fails to account for the fact that despite how small all of the anime companies are compared to say the music and movie giants in the states, the size of the warez base is MUCH LARGER relatively. There's a prevalent attitude among anime "fans" that paying for it is somehow supporting "the man" despite the fact that international licensors provide the japanese with a non-trivial amount of funding.
Considering the entirety of the anime industry is suffering from reduced sales, why is it that a method that is effectively illegal being promoted while the companies that produced this stuff, and legally license it, get the shaft?
Of course my need for OGM/MKV is super-limited, as anything that might have multiple audio tracks I generally have the DVD for (which MPC handles marvelously.)
To a point. The PS2 has been earning profits on the hardware for a couple years now.
The PSP... who knows. The PS3 will be sold at a loss for some time, but will likely start turning a profit after a while.
The XBOX is the only console to lose money over its entire lifespan. It remains to be seen if MSFT can contract the cost of manufacturing enough to bring unit production cost under sale cost and turn a profit on the XBOX360. Since they own the rights to everything in the system, it's entirely possible.
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Boycotting this Sony won't affect SonyBMG.
They're all different beasts, and slaying one won't kill the other. You have to single out the one you want dead and kill it.
It means it'll skyrocket upwards until it loses all of its initial velocity, then will come plunging to the earth at 9.8m/s^2
It will hit you at the same horizontal speed, however.
So basically it will be hyped and hyped until the hype expires, but all of the venture capital will come a-crashing in when it hits the ground!
They also noted that the red light cameras, due to the deliberately decreased yellow light time, caused MORE accidents.
This of course pisses people off badly, when a "saftey" feature is turned instead to generate revenue and causes more problems at the same time.
I wonder if Nielsen will start monitoring BitTorrent trackers
Nielsen ratings are used primarily to set prices for ad segments.
I'm sure that people go out of their way to strip ads/use dvd rips for torrents. (IE they're screwed on two fronts.)
If a company with ten floors of an office building and ten million dollars of print equipment "steals" my work, I would use it to my advantage to self-promote.
Except that they'd slap someone else's name on it, and you'd look like a nut claiming it was yours.
And you'd have no recourse. They'd get all the credit and all the money.
What might be good is if they write a "GPLv3 for Developers" guide.
The GPLv3 text itself would serve as the legal document, and the guide would be a non-legally-binding text that would explain the terms of the GPLv3 in more familiar language.
Half of what makes licenses like the GPL hard to read is all the legalese they have to play with to close holes and leave little room for legal maneuvering. But if they could explain their terms outside the context of a legally binding document, that would probably make life easier.
But it's not just bits.
It's the result of the creators time, effort, and capital.
That you can copy it for free doesn't make giving it to a million random people online moral or ethical, since said creator now has to compete for people against the very thing they made, which they can get for free. They may still have something to pay back, you don't.
Piracy will continue until it becomes the accepted mode of acquisition.
Once an attitude of entitlement becomes common among "fans," they'll wonder why people ever pay for stuff.
Then fewer and fewer people will agree to pay for stuff, being raised on the idea that you can just go and download it.
At which point many who make stuff now will likely stop, because there's no benefit. They'll have to get people willing to put up a lot of money beforehand to create something, or it won't get made. This will pretty much put one hell of a limiter on the rate at which creative works are produced, as few people are willing to buy something they aren't familiar with (hey, isn't that why people pirate music and movies?)
So while it won't stop, it'll come to one hell of a trickle. People who used to be able to make a living at it will force it to part time, then probably give up on it entirely once every other demand in life settles in and takes all of their time. "Creativity" and "Art" will become a hobby for those who have time, instead of being viable on their own for those who wish to attempt.
There is no wealth creation on eDonkey/eMule.
It's mostly just sharing the works of others, without asking them if they wanted to share it that way first.
Well it's not their call.
The Japanese would throw a fit if they arbitrarily went and did it.
I blame the "fans" that don't spend money, and brag about it. There are more "fans" like that following anime than any other medium.
Some have done that. Bandai did it for Escaflowne and AN Entertainment did it for Risky Safety. However, much of the time it's easier to just re-translate it, since they've got translators on hand and much more in terms of translation resources.
Also, the Japanese often demand a say in how things are translated some times, if they don't do it all themselves (see Zeta Gundam and Love Hina.)
They don't support it.
They tolerate it, and only to a point.
One a show is announced they generally expect sites and fansub groups to delist it. Those that don't get a nice letter saying "stop or else." Those that do stop, don't.
Rentals contribute more than Fansubs.
Not hard when fansubs contribute $0.
Well do you mean the first Evangelion release? The one from back in 2000? Yeah, that was made from the best analog masters they had at the time, but the Japanese video wasn't much better. Then GAINAX remastered it and ADV released the remastered version here in the US, which is phenominally better than the old release.
Other than that I don't see how you can compare ADV to MS and the RIAA. And everything else in your rant makes no sense, or is completely false.
- amateur voice actors: they've gotten some fairly high profile people, and many people working for them have been doing this thing for years. Of course, if you want a fair discussion of dubs you'll have to do it at animeondvd.com because I don't listen to dubs.
- sitting on series: every company licenses a series then releases it down the line. It's called building a back catalog and is insurance against something happening that stops new series. Also, they can't pick up a bunch of new series then dump them on the market, as that'd damage it. Also, ADV has not announced any new licenses this past year, which is uncommon for them.
- Unlike MS, they have neither a monopoly, nor engaged in anticompetitive practices. Their products are generally good to great in quality, and they listen to the audience.
Oh, and they don't use Macrovision or CSS on --ANY-- of their DVDs. How about that?
Well, the price is largely influenced by licensing cost.
US production costs aren't that high, but little of their costs are offset by advertising. And generally the single largest stream of income they have is DVD sales, which is why the MSRP is $29.99 despite them being available for much less if you buy at the right places online.
It's about paying the licensor.
Right, paying them for their time, effort, and the capital they expended in creating the show.
You didn't seriously think they made it for FREE, did you?
Corporations only feel hits to their wallets and that's exactly where we have to hit them if we expect them to treat us with respect.
The only one showing disrespect here is you, since you feel so entitled to their work without ever compensating them for their effort. US companies, however, have made every effort to convince people to buy, trying to secure extras for inclusion with their products that would previously not have been available outside Japan.
They're trying. You're just ignoring them and ranting.
Because they have to recoup the costs of the license?
You don't seem to realize that the audience for a given anime series is many many times smaller than the audience for any single show on national television in America. So much smaller that they do not have the following:
- Advertising support
- Millions of viewers weekly
Which alone guarantees that the show is either paid for entirely by advertising, such as reality TV shows which are cheap to make. That and with millions of viewers you're guaranteed a large audience willing to buy the shows on DVD.
The anime companies in the US have none of that. Advertising doesn't even cover licensing expenses much of the time. They are VERY DEPENDENT on the fanbase supporting them.
And no, they have pointed out the conflict and the possible problems but they have -never- pursued a group nor gotten on anyone's case unless the series had been both licensed AND announced, The only exception was GANTZ and even then people were expecting it to be announced.
I see this and it tells me you only shop at places like Suncoast, which always charge full MSRP for stuff.
Look around online at legit shops like deepdiscountdvd.com or dvdplanet.com (or my fave, dvdplanet.com) and you can find shows for just over half MSRP.
That and ADV is releasing a lot of shows that only came out this year as thinpak complete collections. While they lack extras (which are of variable quality), you can get an entire show for $30-$60 in a nice, small box. And you support the industry as a whole.
I like to call you the anti-fan.
The money is from the fact that a lot of morons will pay $24.95 for a DVD with three or four episodes on it.
Yeah, because that's near full MSRP. I buy online at dvdpacific.com where I can get them for $16 to $19 per disc. That's the price to pay if you want to support what you enjoy. And it's probably the best price the world over, considering the Japanese pay 5x that for TWO episodes.
Thanks, but I'll take a fansub instead.
You may think you're only spitting on the US licensor, but you're also spitting on the creator as well.
It's available earlier
You can do that when you ignore both the law and paying the creator for their time and effort.
the translation is rarely better (although rife with typos and other silliness)
Fixed that for you.
and I don't have to rip it to avoid the stupid non-skippable intro animations on anime DVDs, especially those from ADV films.
What non-skippable intros? I hit the menu button during the FBI logo on all of my DVDs and it jumps right to the menu. Every anime company does that (even ADV.)
I have been one of those morons on occasion
There we go. Only morons support that which they like. Everyone else screws them over.
It fails to mention ADV's recent financial troubles, highlighted by the fact that in the past year they've had to give up funding the creation of several new shows and didn't announce any licenses during this year's con season (which is very unusual.)
It also fails to account for the fact that despite how small all of the anime companies are compared to say the music and movie giants in the states, the size of the warez base is MUCH LARGER relatively. There's a prevalent attitude among anime "fans" that paying for it is somehow supporting "the man" despite the fact that international licensors provide the japanese with a non-trivial amount of funding.
Scramble? To contain the crisis?
They almost never admitted what they had done, and continually denied the dangers posed by this rootkit.
They only started the recall after people pointed out repeatedly that their "uninstaller" didn't, and recieved criticism from the government.
"as quickly as they could" my ass.
Of course, they could have been smarter and never released it to begin with.
Considering the entirety of the anime industry is suffering from reduced sales, why is it that a method that is effectively illegal being promoted while the companies that produced this stuff, and legally license it, get the shaft?
Can anyone come up with a valid, sensical reason?
I use Media Player Classic.
Of course my need for OGM/MKV is super-limited, as anything that might have multiple audio tracks I generally have the DVD for (which MPC handles marvelously.)
To a point. The PS2 has been earning profits on the hardware for a couple years now.
The PSP... who knows. The PS3 will be sold at a loss for some time, but will likely start turning a profit after a while.
The XBOX is the only console to lose money over its entire lifespan. It remains to be seen if MSFT can contract the cost of manufacturing enough to bring unit production cost under sale cost and turn a profit on the XBOX360. Since they own the rights to everything in the system, it's entirely possible.
Yep, it's turning information based "products" into a negative sum game. But only for the creators.
Everyone else gets to run off with the results of their work for free.