Anyway he does have a case in light of the recent ruling since it only applies to those who promote the trading of illegal material.
Which means if the suit were to proceed in the US he'd be boned cause he was encouraging the violation of copyright.
The MPAA could likely follow him in the UK by either filing there (lack of jurisidction? they're a private entity, not the legal system!) or having their european counterpart do so, but there's no certainty on the outcome because US precedent doesn't exactly apply over there.
They might take it into consideration, the US and UK sometimes share judicial precedents.
One of the characters has a nickname, Hachimaki (IIRC), which means headband, and this is explained (in a footnote) once. I would have thought it would be more appropriate to translate it each time, because that's what a Japanese audience would be hearing.
Calling him "headband" every few seconds would look dumb, since calling him Hachimaki turns it into a proper noun, thus you generally don't translate it (considering a "hachimaki" is more than just a headband.) That and after a while they just start calling him "Hachi" and it's a moot point.
Seriously, everyone gives all the credit to fansubbers who leave crap untranslated cause it's "cool" in their subs, but only the professional releases catch crap despite doing a better job.
You can blame Sunrise and Yoshiyuki Tomino for the subtitling job.
Sunrise handles all DVD production, leaving Bandai Entertainment (the US division) to handle packaging and extras.
So in a sense, the Japanese did us a disservice and the US company did a damn fine job.
To be honest, US Anime DVDs are great for the most part. They aren't insanely fucking expensive like Japanese DVDs and aren't overpriced (paying $30 for a goddamn DVD means you're a fool. I just bought 3 dvds with a $29.99 MSRP for just under $16.)
1) Buying series and waiting to release them is simply a necessity of business.
Fansubbers and those who have not paid for the right to series do NOT play a factor in their plans. You have no valid complaint.
2) The professional translators do a better job 90% of the time compared to idiots who translate for fansubs. Rarely do Japanese assist with fansub translations, and often the translators tend not to speak English as a first language.
Nevermind that licensors get the ACTUAL TYPED SCRIPTS TO THE SHOWS and can make queries back to the companies and the original WRITERS if need be.
though the speedsubbing groups doing Naruto have it pretty much down to a 24-hour turnaround and they're no less accurate than ADV or VIZ.
They're down to 24 hours and do a shit-poor job. I can't stand watching speed subs and seeing the mangling the shows get.
We CANNOT accept that it takes them FIVE FUCKING YEARS before they're ready to release a single DVD with only two episodes on it.
Five years? What fucking bizzaro world do you live in. At worst I've seen two years. Geneon is lightning quick, having turned some series around in 9 months. Often the only thing holding Bandai back is licensing requirements specifying a delay of x months.
As for two episodes per disc, the only show I can think of with that bad a count was Gantz, but it was a crap show to begin with and ADV gave up on that. You might say blue sub 6, but that was Gonzo's call. Or maybe Figure 17, but those episodes were an hour long each.
Here's your challenge, ADV and the rest of the studios: Get it down to a six-month turnaround. Six months after you license the anime, we want to see it on the fucking shelf.
Oh, if they could they would. Often they do. Many times they can't. If they could without flooding the market and pissing off retailers, they would. They're damn well near flooding the market now. If you want to see faster turn around times, then convince people to EAT IT UP cause there's lots of good shows with good releases that people are simply NOT BUYING.
I watch stuff now and ignore fansubs because fansubs often have shitty translations. I also buy lots of series on DVD because I like having a nice pressed disc with better video quality than fansubs, and I like to support the creator (and how the fuck else are you going to do that?)
Never mind dubs, but dubs make the US market, unlike how you would prefer to believe.
A. Would you prefer to spend $50 or more? Or would you prefer to not get it at all, seeing as how that money pays for licenses, which pay for new series?
Shows like Naruto are the fault of the production crew behind the show, who are pushed by the Japanese rights holders (shogakukan) to stretch the show as much as they can.
B. Dragonball Z, suprisingly, has had a complete re-release of the first two seasons with Japanese audio and good subtitles. So if you don't like the dub you can't complain. Same goes for the rest of the series and GT. Not sure about original Dragonball, but I imagine it'll be done the same way if it isn't already there.
C. You're talking about 4Kids here, and no one will defend them.
Well no, TV showings are paid for by advertisers. You also have to deal with the edits and english audio that the TV airings get, which you may or may not be OK with. I personally hate both so I never watch it on TV.
The problem with fansubs is that people who watch fansubs generally (in my experience) use every excuse they can to not buy shows. I've completely stopped watching fansubs because I think the crowd that mills around it falls into that collective "entitlement" attitude. Unsuprisingly, many fansub fans also collect and trade DVD rips. Asking for high quality cover scans is common (so they can have something nice looking without having to put down the money for it.)
So I watch everything raw without subs like I did the year I was in Japan, and buy several times what your average fansub watcher does (sometimes sight unseen.)
Never mind the online bootleggers who are a dime a dozen, that they keep trying to smack down but are having trouble. (Oh, and notice that not once has any US anime publisher ever filed suit against a fansub group.)
A large percentage of anime made in the 90s is released in the US now, and well over 50% of the anime (maybe more) of the anime made in the last 5 years is available. At the same time, the fanbase has exploded.
If you go back past the early 90s, then you'll see percentages approaching 90% for never released here, but that tends to be because of painful licensing legalities and simple "it's too old" fears.
The irony of that article is that it completely ignores the international side of things, especially the irrational demands many Japanese licensors make of foreign licensees that cause many series to be passed on, ignored, or licensed in part and not whole (songs missing and the like.)
Now if you want to apply that 99% to something and be more accurate, I'd suggest you look at the manga import business. Several hundred different titles are out in the US and abroad now, and that's barely ANYTHING that's been released in just the past 5 years, never mind the 3 preceding decades.
Well the technology behind Grokster isn't affected, since it exists in a state irrespective of the media.
So if you use the technology for a P2P service that acts with ignorance to the material being transferred (IE you don't actively PROMOTE the trading of material in violation of copyright) then you're probably fine.
Why are people so hell-bent on denying others the right to make money off their works?
These people ARE doing it for the love of it, but they'd like to not be POOR while doing it. And sometimes that requires earning more money than you spend on creating something.
Is it just me, or has Apple killed sales for the next year, until the first x86 machine comes out?
Even with fat binary support, not everyone is going to be so nice as to build/test/distro cross architecture binaries, never mind once the 2007 "threshold" is released and apple considers the transition complete.
Napster was not a success for any other reason than it allowed people to get music for free. Had it cost money, it's unlikely it would have gotten very far.
iTunes survives on a thin number of subscribers compared to the number of people who still warez their music, simply because iTunes costs money.
Don't forget:
For every person with a valid reason why people would use the internet to get at movies, games, tv, and music, there are probably a thousand whose only reason is "I can get it and I don't have to pay anyone" regardless of the content.
It's those people, and the blatant copyright violation, that has the industry up in arms. Otherwise, they could give a shit less about the internet.
Quickly this logic is becoming obsolete, as many series in the past several years have been either funded up front by US firms, or were licensed during production/airing, especially with the increasing presence of shows on TV.
Publishers, both US and Japanese, releasing series worldwide today aren't seeing very good sales of many shows, although this may be because of fansubs, flooding the market, or a finicky market.
Although, I doubt more than a small number of people on those 20K+ torrents will ever buy legitimate DVDs of the show.
Part of the logic (excuse?) of some of the fansubbing teams is that when they licensed Naruto, they licensed a fixed number of early episodes. So, those episodes are out of distribution - but the most recent ones for those of us who have been watching since the beginning are still made available.
Which is patently false, since even if they license a subset they still own the rights to the series.
Make no mistake. Naruto is the next Dragonball. It needs continued fansubbing like we need nails pounded into our heads.
Just because you don't like them doesn't make them an exception.
You're still equally undeserving of free entertainment, especially when the creator (or other legally obligated entity) has determined that it will not be free.
Well, generally the idea will be that no one will be paid for making recordings at all, at least in the prospecting sense (invest with hope for return.)
What we'd more than likely get is what you've had for most of history: Rich people paying artists to create works that they themselves like.
And generally it will be considered worse, as the only people who get a say in what's made are the ones who have lots and lots of money. Even then the ones who could shell out that kind of money will be reluctant to do so if they can't get their money back. Not to mention the sheer plummet in the number of creative works produced.
This will drive a lot of creative people out of various fields. Note that this does not mean the cream of the crop will be left. People who do it for free aren't necessarily good you know.
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Anyway he does have a case in light of the recent ruling since it only applies to those who promote the trading of illegal material.
Which means if the suit were to proceed in the US he'd be boned cause he was encouraging the violation of copyright.
The MPAA could likely follow him in the UK by either filing there (lack of jurisidction? they're a private entity, not the legal system!) or having their european counterpart do so, but there's no certainty on the outcome because US precedent doesn't exactly apply over there.
They might take it into consideration, the US and UK sometimes share judicial precedents.
We've already seen that even somewhat good writers, namely Stephen King, have tried this and failed.
The simple fact is that few will pay and many will share, and the author/artist will likely not see a return on it.
Thus they'll stop, because they have to eat. And you can eat words, but they won't provide nourishment.
One of the characters has a nickname, Hachimaki (IIRC), which means headband, and this is explained (in a footnote) once. I would have thought it would be more appropriate to translate it each time, because that's what a Japanese audience would be hearing.
Calling him "headband" every few seconds would look dumb, since calling him Hachimaki turns it into a proper noun, thus you generally don't translate it (considering a "hachimaki" is more than just a headband.) That and after a while they just start calling him "Hachi" and it's a moot point.
Seriously, everyone gives all the credit to fansubbers who leave crap untranslated cause it's "cool" in their subs, but only the professional releases catch crap despite doing a better job.
You can blame Sunrise and Yoshiyuki Tomino for the subtitling job.
Sunrise handles all DVD production, leaving Bandai Entertainment (the US division) to handle packaging and extras.
So in a sense, the Japanese did us a disservice and the US company did a damn fine job.
To be honest, US Anime DVDs are great for the most part. They aren't insanely fucking expensive like Japanese DVDs and aren't overpriced (paying $30 for a goddamn DVD means you're a fool. I just bought 3 dvds with a $29.99 MSRP for just under $16.)
1) Buying series and waiting to release them is simply a necessity of business.
Fansubbers and those who have not paid for the right to series do NOT play a factor in their plans. You have no valid complaint.
2) The professional translators do a better job 90% of the time compared to idiots who translate for fansubs. Rarely do Japanese assist with fansub translations, and often the translators tend not to speak English as a first language.
Nevermind that licensors get the ACTUAL TYPED SCRIPTS TO THE SHOWS and can make queries back to the companies and the original WRITERS if need be.
though the speedsubbing groups doing Naruto have it pretty much down to a 24-hour turnaround and they're no less accurate than ADV or VIZ.
They're down to 24 hours and do a shit-poor job. I can't stand watching speed subs and seeing the mangling the shows get.
We CANNOT accept that it takes them FIVE FUCKING YEARS before they're ready to release a single DVD with only two episodes on it.
Five years? What fucking bizzaro world do you live in. At worst I've seen two years. Geneon is lightning quick, having turned some series around in 9 months. Often the only thing holding Bandai back is licensing requirements specifying a delay of x months.
As for two episodes per disc, the only show I can think of with that bad a count was Gantz, but it was a crap show to begin with and ADV gave up on that. You might say blue sub 6, but that was Gonzo's call. Or maybe Figure 17, but those episodes were an hour long each.
Here's your challenge, ADV and the rest of the studios: Get it down to a six-month turnaround. Six months after you license the anime, we want to see it on the fucking shelf.
Oh, if they could they would. Often they do. Many times they can't. If they could without flooding the market and pissing off retailers, they would. They're damn well near flooding the market now. If you want to see faster turn around times, then convince people to EAT IT UP cause there's lots of good shows with good releases that people are simply NOT BUYING.
And that slows things down.
I watch stuff now and ignore fansubs because fansubs often have shitty translations. I also buy lots of series on DVD because I like having a nice pressed disc with better video quality than fansubs, and I like to support the creator (and how the fuck else are you going to do that?)
Never mind dubs, but dubs make the US market, unlike how you would prefer to believe.
A. Would you prefer to spend $50 or more? Or would you prefer to not get it at all, seeing as how that money pays for licenses, which pay for new series?
Shows like Naruto are the fault of the production crew behind the show, who are pushed by the Japanese rights holders (shogakukan) to stretch the show as much as they can.
B. Dragonball Z, suprisingly, has had a complete re-release of the first two seasons with Japanese audio and good subtitles. So if you don't like the dub you can't complain. Same goes for the rest of the series and GT. Not sure about original Dragonball, but I imagine it'll be done the same way if it isn't already there.
C. You're talking about 4Kids here, and no one will defend them.
Well no, TV showings are paid for by advertisers. You also have to deal with the edits and english audio that the TV airings get, which you may or may not be OK with. I personally hate both so I never watch it on TV.
The problem with fansubs is that people who watch fansubs generally (in my experience) use every excuse they can to not buy shows. I've completely stopped watching fansubs because I think the crowd that mills around it falls into that collective "entitlement" attitude. Unsuprisingly, many fansub fans also collect and trade DVD rips. Asking for high quality cover scans is common (so they can have something nice looking without having to put down the money for it.)
So I watch everything raw without subs like I did the year I was in Japan, and buy several times what your average fansub watcher does (sometimes sight unseen.)
Never mind the online bootleggers who are a dime a dozen, that they keep trying to smack down but are having trouble. (Oh, and notice that not once has any US anime publisher ever filed suit against a fansub group.)
The 99% figure is off.
A large percentage of anime made in the 90s is released in the US now, and well over 50% of the anime (maybe more) of the anime made in the last 5 years is available. At the same time, the fanbase has exploded.
If you go back past the early 90s, then you'll see percentages approaching 90% for never released here, but that tends to be because of painful licensing legalities and simple "it's too old" fears.
The irony of that article is that it completely ignores the international side of things, especially the irrational demands many Japanese licensors make of foreign licensees that cause many series to be passed on, ignored, or licensed in part and not whole (songs missing and the like.)
Now if you want to apply that 99% to something and be more accurate, I'd suggest you look at the manga import business. Several hundred different titles are out in the US and abroad now, and that's barely ANYTHING that's been released in just the past 5 years, never mind the 3 preceding decades.
Betamax didn't say you could distribute copies of works to thousands of people you don't know.
Well the technology behind Grokster isn't affected, since it exists in a state irrespective of the media.
So if you use the technology for a P2P service that acts with ignorance to the material being transferred (IE you don't actively PROMOTE the trading of material in violation of copyright) then you're probably fine.
is middle management. Everything else can be outsourced.
Entry level positions aren't necessary. Knowlege of how computer systems behave and are operated isn't necessary. Intelligence isn't necessary.
All you have to know is how to play petty office politics and sell people on useless shit. And run an office (either well or poorly.)
The Cubs win the World Series.
Just you wait...
Why are people so hell-bent on denying others the right to make money off their works?
These people ARE doing it for the love of it, but they'd like to not be POOR while doing it. And sometimes that requires earning more money than you spend on creating something.
I messed with it the other day myself.
Photoshop competitor? Hardly.
Nifty little tool? Sure.
This article? Jumping to conclusions based on a beta showing that doesn't even pretend to be anything more than a test run.
I think the subjects speak for themselves :)
and I think "MSH" (pronounced the obvious way) is a perfectly reasonable name.
:)
Ah, so it's like Hebrew where there are no vowels so you kinda have to insert your own. I get:
MiSH
MaSH
MoSH
Yeah. Nothing divine about this though
Is it just me, or has Apple killed sales for the next year, until the first x86 machine comes out?
Even with fat binary support, not everyone is going to be so nice as to build/test/distro cross architecture binaries, never mind once the 2007 "threshold" is released and apple considers the transition complete.
You give the average person too much credit.
Napster was not a success for any other reason than it allowed people to get music for free. Had it cost money, it's unlikely it would have gotten very far.
iTunes survives on a thin number of subscribers compared to the number of people who still warez their music, simply because iTunes costs money.
Don't forget:
For every person with a valid reason why people would use the internet to get at movies, games, tv, and music, there are probably a thousand whose only reason is "I can get it and I don't have to pay anyone" regardless of the content.
It's those people, and the blatant copyright violation, that has the industry up in arms. Otherwise, they could give a shit less about the internet.
Instead of relying on game reviews and rentals, they're making their own digital duplicates and then deciding if it's worth their money.
No, it's much simpler than that:
It's never worth their money if they can get it free.
Quickly this logic is becoming obsolete, as many series in the past several years have been either funded up front by US firms, or were licensed during production/airing, especially with the increasing presence of shows on TV.
Publishers, both US and Japanese, releasing series worldwide today aren't seeing very good sales of many shows, although this may be because of fansubs, flooding the market, or a finicky market.
Although, I doubt more than a small number of people on those 20K+ torrents will ever buy legitimate DVDs of the show.
Part of the logic (excuse?) of some of the fansubbing teams is that when they licensed Naruto, they licensed a fixed number of early episodes. So, those episodes are out of distribution - but the most recent ones for those of us who have been watching since the beginning are still made available.
Which is patently false, since even if they license a subset they still own the rights to the series.
Make no mistake. Naruto is the next Dragonball. It needs continued fansubbing like we need nails pounded into our heads.
Just because you don't like them doesn't make them an exception.
You're still equally undeserving of free entertainment, especially when the creator (or other legally obligated entity) has determined that it will not be free.
So use EPHPOD.
Hell even when using iTunes to sync I didn't have to surrender control of my music collection to iTunes.
I think slashdotters just like to complain when the gadget doesn't do a billion things, and instead just tries to do one thing well.
Oh so they're not wrong?
I guarantee you that if they start indexing major tracker sites, the majority of what you will see will be exactly that.
Wow, way to point out the obvious Wired News.
Well, generally the idea will be that no one will be paid for making recordings at all, at least in the prospecting sense (invest with hope for return.)
What we'd more than likely get is what you've had for most of history: Rich people paying artists to create works that they themselves like.
And generally it will be considered worse, as the only people who get a say in what's made are the ones who have lots and lots of money. Even then the ones who could shell out that kind of money will be
reluctant to do so if they can't get their money back. Not to mention the sheer plummet in the number of creative works produced.
This will drive a lot of creative people out of various fields. Note that this does not mean the cream of the crop will be left. People who do it for free aren't necessarily good you know.