either that, or part of my job consists of maintaining other people's code that never bothered to take that class.
It's not a matter of if us "fucktard assholes" know perl and/or use perl.. It's a matter of not wanting to spend 90% of our time chasing retarded bugs because people can't be bothered to write clean code.
It's a matter of better use of time. Not skill. Try working in a dev shop bigger than your mom's basement sometime.
I do a substantial amount of ASP.Net coding and they seemed to just give a weak gloss over the actual technology they were comparing here.
First, IIS & Win32 are *not* the only places where you can run ASP.Net. The mono project is getting better and better fairly quickly. This is mentioned briefly in their "security" section.. which is also a load of crap.
Price: PHP has a habit of becoming very perl-esque over time because of the language. Maybe 5 changes this, but I doubt it's enforced. So an IDE that's going to clean your code vs. cost in man-hours spent debugging some "super efficient php code" (read: "looks like perl") bleh.. I'll take the IDE
The database code samples *Don't do the same thing*.. but they DO show the people who wrote the article don't know ASP.Net, because they're using the old and insecure form of database connections as opposed to parameterized queries.
Nice to know that both sides of the fence are as equally capable of FUD.
Is "Today I had Cheetos and talked to Sara" or "I think Imma gonna brush mah teef now" really something worth stealing? C'mon.. most things worth stealing have at least _some_ value..
Current Mood: Thefty
Java (and subsequently.Net) bytecode made a reverse engineer's life a bit easier on a whole, because of the way it could be decompiled into source that was extremely similar to the original.
All this seems like it would do, is remove that benefit and cause the reverse engineer to approach it the same old way one would approach a compiled C program (as you described, with a debugger and hooks on syscalls). Or bust out a new type of disassembler to emulate traces, and dump that to an assembly listing.
But you're right, it's not really that mind blowing if the reverse engineer has worked on non-java/non-.net binaries before.
She misuses the term functional programming. I'm assuming she meant imperative languages.
A lot of the problems could be solved with true functional languages (Haskell, OCaml, etc) but the learning curve is too high. Especially when you can get a team of second rate VB coders for the price of one haskell coder (if you can find one)
But really, do you want working code now? Or perfect code in 10 years? That's where the problem is. Time.
But how many people here actually bought one of these (own money, not corporate hand-me-down).. and of those people.. WTF were you thinking? Why would you do that to yourself? Both companies pre-merger were notorious for not making the best of systems, just "commodity systems".. so it stands to reason this wouldn't change post-merger.. and you call yourselves nerds..buying HP computers bah!
fwiw, the server didn't melt, but the net admins disabled external network access. This probably doesn't matter to most slashdot readers, but for students frantically trying to get exam notes they can access the necessary material by going into the school labs, or connecting to another server w/ remote access (then running a browser from there).
I would have posted this earlier, but my cable modem choked this morning too..
Karma on Slashdot: Positive
Karma in life: Negative
Adam, the server didn't melt.. the admins blocked all external access. Either come into school, or ssh into another server (maybe one that starts with an m) and you can access it that way (either tunnel your x connection or use lynx).. I've accessed the 4F03 notes the same way already today.
if people are going to start pushing for this with built in deodorants and perfumes to hide the fact that it will be worn over and over by people with poor hygiene, why would we care that it is [a] dry-cleanable or [b] machine washable?
C'mon, think of the target audience in the writeup!
Jon Johansen is indicted in Norway for his role in creating and posting the DeCSS code...
FreeBSD development moves to the FreeBSD Mall (announcement). As expected, Wind River drops FreeBSD, which it acquired with BSDi in 2001...
Microsoft decides that security is important, and leaks memos to prove it...
Ok, that's just from the first page alone.. They did the same thing last year.. when will they just change the name, it's like they didn't even try to get linux centric news items...
Ok, I read the entire timeline.. yes I have far too much time on my hands.. but, why is Dmitry Sklyarov's arrest at Defcon last year included? This has absolutely nothing to do with Linux, and is completely separate geek news. They don't even pretend to try to tie it into Linux.
As far as I can tell, the E-Book software in question only runs in windows anyways..
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either that, or part of my job consists of maintaining other people's code that never bothered to take that class.
It's not a matter of if us "fucktard assholes" know perl and/or use perl.. It's a matter of not wanting to spend 90% of our time chasing retarded bugs because people can't be bothered to write clean code.
It's a matter of better use of time. Not skill. Try working in a dev shop bigger than your mom's basement sometime.
I do a substantial amount of ASP.Net coding and they seemed to just give a weak gloss over the actual technology they were comparing here. First, IIS & Win32 are *not* the only places where you can run ASP.Net. The mono project is getting better and better fairly quickly. This is mentioned briefly in their "security" section.. which is also a load of crap. Price: PHP has a habit of becoming very perl-esque over time because of the language. Maybe 5 changes this, but I doubt it's enforced. So an IDE that's going to clean your code vs. cost in man-hours spent debugging some "super efficient php code" (read: "looks like perl") bleh.. I'll take the IDE The database code samples *Don't do the same thing* .. but they DO show the people who wrote the article don't know ASP.Net, because they're using the old and insecure form of database connections as opposed to parameterized queries.
Nice to know that both sides of the fence are as equally capable of FUD.
My laptop isn't considered "tiny" or anything.. it's a regular toshiba laptop.. but ya know.. the thing is.. it's not 4 feet long..
MY LAPTOP IS NOT FOUR FEET LONG!
Does this mean it's too small?
ps.. not OT.. rtfa
Is "Today I had Cheetos and talked to Sara" or "I think Imma gonna brush mah teef now" really something worth stealing? C'mon.. most things worth stealing have at least _some_ value.. Current Mood: Thefty
Don't forget the pesky aibo
That screams safe and secure to me. Then, maybe we could set it up with BIND.. and the computer would be safe..
until you plug it in..
(Flamebait to induce conversation.. calm down)
I, for one, welcome our new lobotomized and clean shaven overlords.
Java (and subsequently .Net) bytecode made a reverse engineer's life a bit easier on a whole, because of the way it could be decompiled into source that was extremely similar to the original.
All this seems like it would do, is remove that benefit and cause the reverse engineer to approach it the same old way one would approach a compiled C program (as you described, with a debugger and hooks on syscalls). Or bust out a new type of disassembler to emulate traces, and dump that to an assembly listing.
But you're right, it's not really that mind blowing if the reverse engineer has worked on non-java/non-.net binaries before.
I can see it now.. "I only use 93 or higher octane in my ride".. "Oh yeah? I prefer a nice Colt 45"
A 40 of bacardi still costs more than the amount of gas to fill a geo..
She misuses the term functional programming. I'm assuming she meant imperative languages. A lot of the problems could be solved with true functional languages (Haskell, OCaml, etc) but the learning curve is too high. Especially when you can get a team of second rate VB coders for the price of one haskell coder (if you can find one) But really, do you want working code now? Or perfect code in 10 years? That's where the problem is. Time.
I, for one, welcome our new roman time overlords
But how many people here actually bought one of these (own money, not corporate hand-me-down).. and of those people.. WTF were you thinking? Why would you do that to yourself? Both companies pre-merger were notorious for not making the best of systems, just "commodity systems" .. so it stands to reason this wouldn't change post-merger.. and you call yourselves nerds..buying HP computers bah!
fwiw, the server didn't melt, but the net admins disabled external network access. This probably doesn't matter to most slashdot readers, but for students frantically trying to get exam notes they can access the necessary material by going into the school labs, or connecting to another server w/ remote access (then running a browser from there). I would have posted this earlier, but my cable modem choked this morning too.. Karma on Slashdot: Positive Karma in life: Negative
Adam, the server didn't melt.. the admins blocked all external access. Either come into school, or ssh into another server (maybe one that starts with an m) and you can access it that way (either tunnel your x connection or use lynx) .. I've accessed the 4F03 notes the same way already today.
if people are going to start pushing for this with built in deodorants and perfumes to hide the fact that it will be worn over and over by people with poor hygiene, why would we care that it is [a] dry-cleanable or [b] machine washable? C'mon, think of the target audience in the writeup!
Jon Johansen is indicted in Norway for his role in creating and posting the DeCSS code... FreeBSD development moves to the FreeBSD Mall (announcement). As expected, Wind River drops FreeBSD, which it acquired with BSDi in 2001... Microsoft decides that security is important, and leaks memos to prove it... Ok, that's just from the first page alone.. They did the same thing last year.. when will they just change the name, it's like they didn't even try to get linux centric news items...
Ok, I read the entire timeline.. yes I have far too much time on my hands.. but, why is Dmitry Sklyarov's arrest at Defcon last year included? This has absolutely nothing to do with Linux, and is completely separate geek news. They don't even pretend to try to tie it into Linux. As far as I can tell, the E-Book software in question only runs in windows anyways..