...when I first tried the iPhone for around 45 minutes I was really not impressed [with the keyboard]. 45 minutes? That's the problem. It takes 2-3 days to get used to it. Those 2-3 days make a huge difference, and if you haven't spent that time, you won't know what the iPhone keyboard is capable of...
How does the radar signature of the F-22 compare to the F-117. Very favorably, from what I've seen....
"Aircraft designers generally describe an airplane's radar cross section in terms of "decibel square meters," or dBsm. This is an analogy that compares the plane's radar reflectivity to the radar reflectivity of an aluminum sphere of a certain size. The B-2 reportedly has a radar signature of an aluminum marble. The F-22 Raptor interceptor is roughly the same, and the F-117 is only slightly less stealthy. The newer Joint Strike Fighter has the signature of an aluminum golf ball. The older B-1 bomber, designed during the 1970s and 1980s, is about the size of a three-foot (one-meter)-diameter sphere, whereas the 1950s-era B-52 Stratofortress, a monstrously non-stealthy airplane, has an enormous radar cross section of a 170-foot (52-meter)-diameter sphere. The size of an aircraft has little relationship to its radar cross section, but its shape certainly does."
I love my iPhone, and look forward to seeing lots of cool apps on it. But it's ridiculous to put one's head in the sand and pretend there aren't some significant trade-offs in Apple's current development philosophy. My hope is that Apple can be encouraged to open up the platform by seeing significant public demand for things like 3rd party background processing.
Let's see if Android has as much market share as the iPhone one year after it's release. Then we'll talk. I say, let's talk now- where's the harm in that?
In the long run, the iPhone SDK shortcomings may hurt it in comparison to Android, which allows background processing.
iPhone's lack of (3rd party) background processing will hamstring whole classes of new apps. The best summation of iPhone SDK problems I've seen is here:
Yes, the new iPhone SDK reveals some really critical shortcomins vs. Android.
The lack of background processing in 3rd party iPhone apps will hamstring whole classes of new apps. The best summation of iPhone SDK problems I've seen is here:
"if you are writing with Flex and AIR or HTML/Javascript and AIR you are not writing to Windows, or for that matter Mac OS X. The strategic import of this cannot be understated. Having MS-DOS and then Windows as the world's most important software development platform has been Microsoft's single most significant advantage in its history as a software company. That advantage is gone."
"Adobe's strategy is a death stroke to Windows as a strategic monopolistic platform. And Adobe as a software company with revenues north of three billion dollars has the muscle, the development community, and the momentum to fight this battle. They will not be "Netscaped."
"Windows will be a money maker for years to come as a tool that end users care about. And to be sure, there is still significant strategic value to the platform. But as a "must have" because people need to run Windows compatible apps, as of today we can say that rationale is officially dead."
According to MIT space security expert Geoffrey Forden, "China's debris will be in orbit for thousands of years (and I mean that literally).... [The US shoot-down] would create a debris field but no where near the sort of debris catastrophe that China created last year."
The two shoot-downs are not equivalent, which of course doesn't prevent overheated, agenda-driven comparisons...
The satellite the Chinese shot down was in a much higher orbit, and that debris is likely to stay up for *hundreds* of years... It's worse than that -- according to MIT space security expert Geoffrey Forden, "China's debris will be in orbit for thousands of years (and I mean that literally).... [The US shoot-down] would create a debris field but no where near the sort of debris catastrophe that China created last year."
The two shoot-downs are not equivalent, which of course won't prevent agenda-driven comparisons...
Using slick marketing phrases like 'The iPhone is about...' is drivel. I don't see how you can defend it. Your High School english teacher is frowning.
But Slashdot isn't nearly the nerd hangout it was five years ago. It's filled with slick shills now. So your real problem here is grammar. Geez.
I've been at Slashdot > 5 years, and a lot longer than you, judging from your number. Unfortunately grammar complaints have a long history here.
Aside from the iPhone, what other phone bought in the last few years doesn't have MMS capability?? Umm, have you ever heard of something called a landline?
As I said before -- if you actually believe that design, UI, and user experience = marketing drivel, then relax, enjoy your current phone, and stop worrying about iPhone threads...
The Apple '1984' commercial was attacking what IBM had been and was striving to return to being. Not true. Apple was attacking not just the narrow, proprietary lock-in aspect, but the the idea that the unimaginative PC standard(s) would take over the industry. It was about a radical course change. Look to Apple's subsequent (and disastrous) "Lemmings" commercial for further indications.
Please ignore my previous message. Bad button push after a very late night...;-)
If the GUI is the only difference, why is it £269 more expensive than other phones? This goes back to my original post title. It's kind of like Mac vs. DOS in 1984. If you're happy with DOS, don't bother. The N95 has some advantages like a great camera, but when I use it, the interface feels like something Dr. McCoy once described as "bear skins and stone knives."
I'm looking int the high end phone market to see if it meets my needs (maybe I can ditch my PDA & mp3player etc.) If you need a high-capacity (>8GB) MP3 player, or MS Exchange support, RIM-like push email; the iPhone won't do that. Otherwise it should replace MP3 player & PDA quite nicely. The screen is big & beautiful.
From that description (it idn't tell me anything I didn't already know) it seems I was correct MMS can achieve exactly the same effect as Visual voicemail. Not true. As I said to the other poster, with the iPhone, the caller doesn't have to know or do anything about MMS or have an MMS-capable device. Visual voicemail works all the time, with any call, from any phone in the world.
Standard iPhone plans currently don't include "pay as you go" as far as I know, although I've heard there's a way to switch to them if you do it the right way- don't know for sure. I know that, I'm thinking about switching to a high-end phone along with a contract.
For people like me who prefer a monthly plan, price is a non-issue, because (in the US at least), iPhone voice rates are as cheap as anything else, and the unlimited data plan is actually cheaper than most (at $20/month). Here in the UK, there is a price difference; I can get other phones for free on an almost identical monthly plan.
If you don't care about your phone GUI, I'm puzzled why you're even bothering, because that's the point of the iPhone. If the GUI is the only difference, why is it £269 more expensive than other phones? http://shop.o2.co.uk/promo/iphonetariffs http://shop.o2.co.uk/phone/Nokia/N95
And if you need to keep your monthly phone expenditures under £10/month, I don;t think the iPhone is right for you.
I don't need to, I currently choose to; I'm looking int the high end phone market to see if it meets my needs (maybe I can ditch my PDA & mp3player etc.)
If you don't even know what visual voicemail does, then why did you say you could "simulate" it with MMS? VV is explained here:
Then the GP is right. MMS can do exactly the same thing the Apple are touting. Ummm, no.
With the iPhone, the caller doesn't have to know or do anything about MMS or have an MMS-capable device. Visual voicemail works all the time, with any call, from any phone in the world.
The historical context for the Apple '1984' ad was that in that era, most computing was locked up in Mainframe operations. There was a crew with labcoats on who where the only people allowed to touch actual computer hardware. If you needed a printout, you filled out a form and put it in the basket next to the half-door that separated 'users' from the IT staff. False. By 1984, the personal computing revolution was in full swing. Spreadsheets & word processing were big business.
The 'IBM' being decried at that time was not the 'IBM' that Apple marketed against for the decade following 1984. Also false. IBM had been selling PCs for years by the time of the 1984 commercial, and very successfully, too.
Standard iPhone plans currently don't include "pay as you go" as far as I know, although I've heard there's a way to switch to them if you do it the right way- don't know for sure. For people like me who prefer a monthly plan, price is a non-issue, because (in the US at least), iPhone voice rates are as cheap as anything else, and the unlimited data plan is actually cheaper than most (at $20/month). If you don't care about your phone GUI, I'm puzzled why you're even bothering, because that's the point of the iPhone. And if you need to keep your monthly phone expenditures under £10/month, I don;t think the iPhone is right for you.
If you don't even know what visual voicemail does, then why did you say you could "simulate" it with MMS? VV is explained here:
In the end I got him to admit that the only thing [the iPhone] had over my phone was the GUI, and that my phone could replicate anything else it did with a bit of help... That's sort of like having a conversation with a salesperson in the late 1980's who "admits" that the only thing the Macintosh has over DOS is the GUI. And the idea of "simulating" visual voicemail with MMS? What this has to do with anything in the real cell phone world is certainly beyond me.
Unfortunately for DJs, Serato Scratch Live still does not support AAC. Native Instruments' Traktor and Traktor Scratch DJ software supports (non-DRM) AAC with no problem. Serato has become more popular than Final Scratch or the newer Traktor Scratch, but the Traktor line has a number of advantages.
There's something disturbing about someone who thinks that just because *they* would feel "ripped off," everyone else should feel the same way.
$10/week extra for all the utility & fun I got from having the iPhone in the first 10 weeks was well worth it -- *to me*. But this tends to upset the Internet scolds who are invested in the "early iPhone buyers got ripped off" meme.
I get $100 back, so the cost for buying early is $100. In return, I got 10 weeks additional use of my iPhone. That's about one coffee per day. Using the iPhone has been worth at least that to me over that time period. Eg all the times I've been able to amuse myself surfing, when I needed to wait... Watching "Meet the Press" free while on the Stairmaster... Google maps that have saved me from getting lost several times... Plus the amusement of having the most famous gadget in the world.
[MS uses] a screen larger than a postage stamp (as opposed to the iPhone, for example).
Apple is using multitouch as a gimmick to create buzz. It doesn't actually do anything useful. Nothing like some facile Apple-bashing. Watch the Apple demos to see how useful multitouch is for a cell phone. And Apple's "postage stamp"-size screen will be something I can own myself & use every day, as opposed to the MS display, which costs $5k-$10k.
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...when I first tried the iPhone for around 45 minutes I was really not impressed [with the keyboard]. 45 minutes? That's the problem. It takes 2-3 days to get used to it. Those 2-3 days make a huge difference, and if you haven't spent that time, you won't know what the iPhone keyboard is capable of..."Aircraft designers generally describe an airplane's radar cross section in terms of "decibel square meters," or dBsm. This is an analogy that compares the plane's radar reflectivity to the radar reflectivity of an aluminum sphere of a certain size. The B-2 reportedly has a radar signature of an aluminum marble. The F-22 Raptor interceptor is roughly the same, and the F-117 is only slightly less stealthy. The newer Joint Strike Fighter has the signature of an aluminum golf ball. The older B-1 bomber, designed during the 1970s and 1980s, is about the size of a three-foot (one-meter)-diameter sphere, whereas the 1950s-era B-52 Stratofortress, a monstrously non-stealthy airplane, has an enormous radar cross section of a 170-foot (52-meter)-diameter sphere. The size of an aircraft has little relationship to its radar cross section, but its shape certainly does."
Yes, that was ironic. I think this is a case of fundamentalist atheists...
I love my iPhone, and look forward to seeing lots of cool apps on it. But it's ridiculous to put one's head in the sand and pretend there aren't some significant trade-offs in Apple's current development philosophy. My hope is that Apple can be encouraged to open up the platform by seeing significant public demand for things like 3rd party background processing.
Let's see if Android has as much market share as the iPhone one year after it's release. Then we'll talk. I say, let's talk now- where's the harm in that?iPhone's lack of (3rd party) background processing will hamstring whole classes of new apps. The best summation of iPhone SDK problems I've seen is here:
Apple's iPhone SDK Prohibits Real Mobile Innovation
The lack of background processing in 3rd party iPhone apps will hamstring whole classes of new apps. The best summation of iPhone SDK problems I've seen is here:
Apple's iPhone SDK Prohibits Real Mobile Innovation
"if you are writing with Flex and AIR or HTML/Javascript and AIR you are not writing to Windows, or for that matter Mac OS X. The strategic import of this cannot be understated. Having MS-DOS and then Windows as the world's most important software development platform has been Microsoft's single most significant advantage in its history as a software company. That advantage is gone."
"Adobe's strategy is a death stroke to Windows as a strategic monopolistic platform. And Adobe as a software company with revenues north of three billion dollars has the muscle, the development community, and the momentum to fight this battle. They will not be "Netscaped."
"Windows will be a money maker for years to come as a tool that end users care about. And to be sure, there is still significant strategic value to the platform. But as a "must have" because people need to run Windows compatible apps, as of today we can say that rationale is officially dead."
...China doing the EXACT same thing... Nonsense.According to MIT space security expert Geoffrey Forden, "China's debris will be in orbit for thousands of years (and I mean that literally). ... [The US shoot-down] would create a debris field but no where near the sort of debris catastrophe that China created last year."
The two shoot-downs are not equivalent, which of course doesn't prevent overheated, agenda-driven comparisons...
The two shoot-downs are not equivalent, which of course won't prevent agenda-driven comparisons...
But Slashdot isn't nearly the nerd hangout it was five years ago. It's filled with slick shills now.
So your real problem here is grammar. Geez.
I've been at Slashdot > 5 years, and a lot longer than you, judging from your number. Unfortunately grammar complaints have a long history here.
As I said before -- if you actually believe that design, UI, and user experience = marketing drivel, then relax, enjoy your current phone, and stop worrying about iPhone threads...
http://shop.o2.co.uk/promo/iphonetariffs
http://shop.o2.co.uk/phone/Nokia/N95 And if you need to keep your monthly phone expenditures under £10/month, I don;t think the iPhone is right for you.
I don't need to, I currently choose to; I'm looking int the high end phone market to see if it meets my needs (maybe I can ditch my PDA & mp3player etc.)
If you don't even know what visual voicemail does, then why did you say you could "simulate" it with MMS? VV is explained here:
http://www.apple.com/iphone/features/index.html#voicemail
From that description (it idn't tell me anything I didn't already know) it seems I was correct MMS can achieve exactly the same effect as Visual voicemail.
With the iPhone, the caller doesn't have to know or do anything about MMS or have an MMS-capable device. Visual voicemail works all the time, with any call, from any phone in the world.
>> The iPhone is about the design and the user interface and the experience.
> It's about the usual marketing drivel from Apple, you say??
You actually believe that design, UI, and user experience = marketing drivel?
I'd suggest you just relax, enjoy your current phone, and stop worrying about iPhone threads...
Standard iPhone plans currently don't include "pay as you go" as far as I know, although I've heard there's a way to switch to them if you do it the right way- don't know for sure. For people like me who prefer a monthly plan, price is a non-issue, because (in the US at least), iPhone voice rates are as cheap as anything else, and the unlimited data plan is actually cheaper than most (at $20/month). If you don't care about your phone GUI, I'm puzzled why you're even bothering, because that's the point of the iPhone. And if you need to keep your monthly phone expenditures under £10/month, I don;t think the iPhone is right for you.
If you don't even know what visual voicemail does, then why did you say you could "simulate" it with MMS? VV is explained here:
http://www.apple.com/iphone/features/index.html#voicemail
$10/week extra for all the utility & fun I got from having the iPhone in the first 10 weeks was well worth it -- *to me*. But this tends to upset the Internet scolds who are invested in the "early iPhone buyers got ripped off" meme.
I get $100 back, so the cost for buying early is $100. In return, I got 10 weeks additional use of my iPhone. That's about one coffee per day. Using the iPhone has been worth at least that to me over that time period. Eg all the times I've been able to amuse myself surfing, when I needed to wait... Watching "Meet the Press" free while on the Stairmaster... Google maps that have saved me from getting lost several times... Plus the amusement of having the most famous gadget in the world.
It was well worth it, and I'd buy it again...
In Soviet Russia... Teddy Bear carries YOU.
Apple is using multitouch as a gimmick to create buzz. It doesn't actually do anything useful. Nothing like some facile Apple-bashing. Watch the Apple demos to see how useful multitouch is for a cell phone. And Apple's "postage stamp"-size screen will be something I can own myself & use every day, as opposed to the MS display, which costs $5k-$10k.