So I can either choose to pay for open source software, or I can choose to pay for commercial software. Just like right now I can choose to pay for one vendor's software or I can choose to pay for another.
It may not be nessesary, but the question you need to ask is "are you willing to give it up?"
Are you (and I am refering to you the poster) willing to give up highspeed internet access and go back to 56k? Are you willing to use a no name local ISP (assuming you can find one) to avoid funding the giants? Are you willing to stop watching all TV (not that hard) stop watching movies and stop listening to the radio or buying CDs? Are you willing (assuming you haven't already) to go 100% opensource? That means no commercial software whatsoever. Are you willing to stop buying from corporations period in order to prove your point? Can you?
The problem is not nessesarily that people aren't seeing what they need to protest, it's that they aren't willing to give up what they have. The crisis is not to the point where people feel they are better off without. And untill that point is reached, resistance will be minimal.
Forget for a moment that the two products are un related
If Visa (the CC company) was to dumb in this day and age to not register Visa.com, VisaCreditCard.com e-visa.com evisa.com and any other variations they might use that they don't deserve to have the domain unless they want to pay the owner for it? I mean seriously, it's not like the internet is a new thing and they didn't know about it. If you're to dumb to get your name space, that's too bad.
As a note, the reason that the eMac sales were stopped (AFAIK) is because some time after that, they released their own eMacs with superdrives.
As for OWC, it's been said before, what OWC did was crack and redistribute the software with computers that the software was not designed to be distributed with. Simmilar to if for some god unknown reason you wrote a crack that would get Windows to run on a Sun machine and started selling Suns with cracked versions of windows, M$ would come down on you real fast.
Note that it is still possible to upgrade your old mac with a DVD burner and burn to the DVD, it's called buying Toast. However, if you want Apple's software to work with your burner, you have two choices (at least for now), buy the professional package, or buy a new mac. Apple is not required to make their software work with any other drive than their own, just like any software you get with your CD burner isn't required to work with any burner except that one.
The real problem with voting with your money on the CD / Movie issue is not getting other people to care (it's possible if you take the time to educate them) it's the fact that your very protesting gives them more ammo. For a vote with your money to be effective, people must not only not buy the CDs, but must also not download the music and for added punch, not listen to the radio when they have that option.
If music downloads even simply remain steady, but music sales fall due to protesting, all that will happen is the RIAA will come forward with more numbers that show downloads outwieghing sales and demending more protection.
From the Apple wb page for getting the 2.1 upgrade: Check the minimum system requirements: iDVD 2.0 or later.
Mac OS X, v10.1.3 or later.
Any Power Macintosh G4, G4 iMac, or eMac equipped with a built-in Apple SuperDrive (DVD-R/CD-RW drive).
Minimum of 256MB of RAM installed with 384MB recommended.
From the FAQ: Can I use iDVD 2 with other CD-R or DVD-R drives? No. iDVD 2 is designed to work only with the Apple SuperDrive available on certain configurations of iMac and Power Mac G4 computers.
It's not their fault you didn't read the information clearly presented before you bought it.
The difference is, with the C64, your main consumers were people that used your product to it's fullest extent and actualy cared about the nuts and bolts. THe average CD user couldn't give a shit one way or the other
Dude, it's too bad that your TV is that bad. I think I can acurately say that there is very little that comes close in terms of home entertainment (that's also affordable) than a 42" Sony Vega TV, a high quality Sony DVD player with an Aiwa reciever, built in THX decoder and a 5.1 surround system. I have never come across a set of computer speakers that give the sound that this system gives, nor a computer monitor that has the sort of visual clarity that this setup does (at least from the couch).
Sure it does, do you know how many geeks live in unsanitary conditions with soda and cookies all arround their computers? And since there is no help section for "My Computer is Infested" someone has to report on it.
When it comes to military and government technology, the general rule of thumb that I have heard from most millitary people I talk to is take what the public is being told is hightech, and multiply it by a factor of 10.
That is the reason why adding amendments to bills is unrestricted
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depends on if they're distributing the program or not. IIRC one of the reasons people bitch about some of the corporate opensource licences (like Apple's) was because they made it a requirement that you released the source code. Correct me if I'm wrong here, but that's the impression I got.
This may be a little over the top as a theory, but it's not entirely unlikely. In fact, you may be able to see a similar tactic in use today. Consider, the RIAA or at least the individual record companies are starting to flood the P2P networks with bogus files*. These files are in quite an abundance on the P2P networks. Anyone really think the RIAA takes these files out of the count when giving data about how much P2P is threatening their industry and the number of files being shared?
*If you want proof, try searching for any newly released song (i.e. the Bon Jovi song Everyday) and download a handful of the files there. 90% of them will download in a few moments (depending on your connection speed) and look just like a regular downloaded MP3. Yet when the file is opened it's roughly 13-15 minutes of dead silence with a handful of random pops and blips scattered throughout. A quick check of these files indicates they all come from the same IP block, and all are miraculously on a very very nice connection.
On the laptops it's even easier to use the keyboard to access alternate mouse functions because your hands are right there anyways. It's really not a big issue. Try it for a littel while.
OK, slashdot. WE GET IT. Open Source is SO IMPORTANT that we all must stand up and take notice. We all must worship the haphazzardly thown together OS that represents the boredrum of a college student. We get it. Open Source is SO important and SO beyond a normal computer user that only you few nerds are capable of understanding. Right. We bow down before the might of the Penquin. Only the elect nerds of slashdot "Get it". Verily they must bring the gospel of Linux to the world because god help us, the rest of the world JUST DOES NOT UNDERSTAND how IMPORTANT and AWESOME and SIGNIFICANT Open Source really REALLY is.
Sorry AC, we haven't been paying OSS enough attention. The world has not taken notice of your holy apostolic Open Source web sites. We have sinned, verily, and thy wrath is shown to all the world on Slashdot.org. You were right--maybe if you post JUST ONE MORE ARTICLE about how AWESOME and SIGNIFICANT Open Source is, and how we JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND, we'll all change our ways. We great unwashed JUST DON'T GET IT. Applications developed and supported by paid developers == bad, haphazzard, often sub-par software with lousy interfaces and plenty of inconsistancies == god. WE GET IT. Loud and clear, A-OK! A commercial application is JUST NOT GOOD ENOUGH
[Note to Moderators: This is not flamebait, it is merely to illustrate that people have different viewpoints as to what matters to them and what doesn't. If you don't want to read something do read it.]
This may be why, since the 1980s, young people in Japan have increasingly disdained the expression of serious or dramatic emotion as kusai, or corny, and prized the appearance of emotional detachment as kakko-ii, or cool.
Anyone else seem to think this same description fits any adolecent of America and other countries? Let's face at, as a world, drama and love emmotions are generaly regarded as corny. The best hero's, the people we look up to are the ones that are stoic.
Our local highschool ordered one of these things earlier this summer to experiment with it. It's pretty neat stuff, makes for gettting computers and equipment from one area to another very smooth. It's not much in the way of design, basicaly a file cabinet on wheels with doors on either side. IIRC, it has a single plug on the outside for plugging the whole unit into a wall to powwer the laptops and other equipment, and then outlets laid throughout the inside. All in all a very nifty toy.
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So I can either choose to pay for open source software, or I can choose to pay for commercial software. Just like right now I can choose to pay for one vendor's software or I can choose to pay for another.
It may not be nessesary, but the question you need to ask is "are you willing to give it up?"
Are you (and I am refering to you the poster) willing to give up highspeed internet access and go back to 56k? Are you willing to use a no name local ISP (assuming you can find one) to avoid funding the giants? Are you willing to stop watching all TV (not that hard) stop watching movies and stop listening to the radio or buying CDs? Are you willing (assuming you haven't already) to go 100% opensource? That means no commercial software whatsoever. Are you willing to stop buying from corporations period in order to prove your point? Can you?
The problem is not nessesarily that people aren't seeing what they need to protest, it's that they aren't willing to give up what they have. The crisis is not to the point where people feel they are better off without. And untill that point is reached, resistance will be minimal.
Forget for a moment that the two products are un related
If Visa (the CC company) was to dumb in this day and age to not register Visa.com, VisaCreditCard.com e-visa.com evisa.com and any other variations they might use that they don't deserve to have the domain unless they want to pay the owner for it? I mean seriously, it's not like the internet is a new thing and they didn't know about it. If you're to dumb to get your name space, that's too bad.
Well, it doesn't look like apple will have a problem with it. But these guys might if you drop the dash
As a note, the reason that the eMac sales were stopped (AFAIK) is because some time after that, they released their own eMacs with superdrives.
As for OWC, it's been said before, what OWC did was crack and redistribute the software with computers that the software was not designed to be distributed with. Simmilar to if for some god unknown reason you wrote a crack that would get Windows to run on a Sun machine and started selling Suns with cracked versions of windows, M$ would come down on you real fast.
Note that it is still possible to upgrade your old mac with a DVD burner and burn to the DVD, it's called buying Toast. However, if you want Apple's software to work with your burner, you have two choices (at least for now), buy the professional package, or buy a new mac. Apple is not required to make their software work with any other drive than their own, just like any software you get with your CD burner isn't required to work with any burner except that one.
Ironicaly, Apple is the only comapny so far (that I've seen) that is resisting broken DRM schemes.
The real problem with voting with your money on the CD / Movie issue is not getting other people to care (it's possible if you take the time to educate them) it's the fact that your very protesting gives them more ammo. For a vote with your money to be effective, people must not only not buy the CDs, but must also not download the music and for added punch, not listen to the radio when they have that option.
If music downloads even simply remain steady, but music sales fall due to protesting, all that will happen is the RIAA will come forward with more numbers that show downloads outwieghing sales and demending more protection.
From the Apple wb page for getting the 2.1 upgrade:
Check the minimum system requirements:
iDVD 2.0 or later.
Mac OS X, v10.1.3 or later.
Any Power Macintosh G4, G4 iMac, or eMac equipped with a built-in Apple SuperDrive (DVD-R/CD-RW drive).
Minimum of 256MB of RAM installed with 384MB recommended.
From the FAQ:
Can I use iDVD 2 with other CD-R or DVD-R drives?
No. iDVD 2 is designed to work only with the Apple SuperDrive available on certain configurations of iMac and Power Mac G4 computers.
It's not their fault you didn't read the information clearly presented before you bought it.
They'll be there just as soon as they finish erasing the memories of the people that saw the UFO's last night.
Seriously, if you're that paranoid, use cash, it's not like books are all that fricken expensive.
or KDX, Carracho (or however the heck it's spelled) and all the ones listed here
The difference is, with the C64, your main consumers were people that used your product to it's fullest extent and actualy cared about the nuts and bolts. THe average CD user couldn't give a shit one way or the other
My computer screen is bigger than my TV screen
Dude, it's too bad that your TV is that bad. I think I can acurately say that there is very little that comes close in terms of home entertainment (that's also affordable) than a 42" Sony Vega TV, a high quality Sony DVD player with an Aiwa reciever, built in THX decoder and a 5.1 surround system. I have never come across a set of computer speakers that give the sound that this system gives, nor a computer monitor that has the sort of visual clarity that this setup does (at least from the couch).
Sure it does, do you know how many geeks live in unsanitary conditions with soda and cookies all arround their computers? And since there is no help section for "My Computer is Infested" someone has to report on it.
When it comes to military and government technology, the general rule of thumb that I have heard from most millitary people I talk to is take what the public is being told is hightech, and multiply it by a factor of 10.
That is the reason why adding amendments to bills is unrestricted
depends on if they're distributing the program or not. IIRC one of the reasons people bitch about some of the corporate opensource licences (like Apple's) was because they made it a requirement that you released the source code. Correct me if I'm wrong here, but that's the impression I got.
I'm going to aim for the Redundant mod here (for added irony of course)
It should be the Department of Duplicate Repetative Redundancies Department
This may be a little over the top as a theory, but it's not entirely unlikely. In fact, you may be able to see a similar tactic in use today. Consider, the RIAA or at least the individual record companies are starting to flood the P2P networks with bogus files*. These files are in quite an abundance on the P2P networks. Anyone really think the RIAA takes these files out of the count when giving data about how much P2P is threatening their industry and the number of files being shared?
*If you want proof, try searching for any newly released song (i.e. the Bon Jovi song Everyday) and download a handful of the files there. 90% of them will download in a few moments (depending on your connection speed) and look just like a regular downloaded MP3. Yet when the file is opened it's roughly 13-15 minutes of dead silence with a handful of random pops and blips scattered throughout. A quick check of these files indicates they all come from the same IP block, and all are miraculously on a very very nice connection.
For the same reason the RIAA wants the DMCA
On the laptops it's even easier to use the keyboard to access alternate mouse functions because your hands are right there anyways. It's really not a big issue. Try it for a littel while.
But you can't claim ownership to an idea. Information wants to be free!
[Note to the dense: I'm not serious, but I don't care about a plagurized post either]
OK, slashdot. WE GET IT. Open Source is SO IMPORTANT that we all must stand up and take notice. We all must worship the haphazzardly thown together OS that represents the boredrum of a college student. We get it. Open Source is SO important and SO beyond a normal computer user that only you few nerds are capable of understanding. Right. We bow down before the might of the Penquin. Only the elect nerds of slashdot "Get it". Verily they must bring the gospel of Linux to the world because god help us, the rest of the world JUST DOES NOT UNDERSTAND how IMPORTANT and AWESOME and SIGNIFICANT Open Source really REALLY is.
Sorry AC, we haven't been paying OSS enough attention. The world has not taken notice of your holy apostolic Open Source web sites. We have sinned, verily, and thy wrath is shown to all the world on Slashdot.org. You were right--maybe if you post JUST ONE MORE ARTICLE about how AWESOME and SIGNIFICANT Open Source is, and how we JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND, we'll all change our ways. We great unwashed JUST DON'T GET IT. Applications developed and supported by paid developers == bad, haphazzard, often sub-par software with lousy interfaces and plenty of inconsistancies == god. WE GET IT. Loud and clear, A-OK! A commercial application is JUST NOT GOOD ENOUGH
[Note to Moderators: This is not flamebait, it is merely to illustrate that people have different viewpoints as to what matters to them and what doesn't. If you don't want to read something do read it.]
From the article:
This may be why, since the 1980s, young people in Japan have increasingly disdained the expression of serious or dramatic emotion as kusai, or corny, and prized the appearance of emotional detachment as kakko-ii, or cool.
Anyone else seem to think this same description fits any adolecent of America and other countries? Let's face at, as a world, drama and love emmotions are generaly regarded as corny. The best hero's, the people we look up to are the ones that are stoic.
Our local highschool ordered one of these things earlier this summer to experiment with it. It's pretty neat stuff, makes for gettting computers and equipment from one area to another very smooth. It's not much in the way of design, basicaly a file cabinet on wheels with doors on either side. IIRC, it has a single plug on the outside for plugging the whole unit into a wall to powwer the laptops and other equipment, and then outlets laid throughout the inside. All in all a very nifty toy.