My question is, why do people need cell phones in class. I college I can sort of make the exception in that they aren't always in class through a set amount of hours, but I remember all to well hearing Cell phones go off in my highschool classes as well. My first reaction was always, what an idiot, why did they leave their cellphone on. My second reaction was, why do they even need a cell phone here. But I've also come up with a third question that's even more pressing than the above two: Who the hell is calling? My cell number is given to a slect few people all of whom know my basic schedual and who know when it would not be a good time to call (assuming the cell phone is on during those times anyway), are people truly giving their cell numbers to people that they don't know well so that they can be called at any time by anyone? That's just plain stupidity.
On the other hand, I will never forget my favorite cell phone mishap. I was in my psychology class when another student's phone went off. Realizing his serious mistake, the student quickly turned the cell phone off and apologized to the teacher (students with manners, imagine that). However, the teacher wasn't quite satisfied. He wanted to know the same thing I did, who was calling at a time like that. (keep in mind this was in highschool when durring a certain set of hours every day, you are in school). The teacher asked the student to take the phone out and call the person back. The student did so and then at the teacher's request turned on the speaker phone aspect and pretended to be the student. Much to the amusement of the class, the student and the teacher, the person on the other end was a college friend of the student who was completely drunk and had no idea what he was doing or saying. Needless to say it was an entertaining class.
Aren't you all so lucky, no only do you get to hear my opinion (as if you cared) bu tI get to pull out a related anime quote for extra karma points. Anyways...
While it may not be perfect now, the idea and (if it exists) the current prototype are enough to generate interest and development. To use a computer related example, when Xerox developed the GUI at PARC, it was far from perfect. If the type of cynicism with which we look at things today existed then, the GUI might never have been developed any further. But someone (notably some Apple employees) saw potential and said that it could be developed and improved. And they were right.
Now for my anime quote - from Ghost in the Shell: "If man realizes technology is within reach he achives it, like it's damn near instictive."
But the IR detectors used for locating the individual are using light. Not visable light but they are using light. And as we all know light is a wave, and when waves interect with other waves, they can be distorted. Perhaps it is possible to distort the IR waves enough to remain undetected.
Thanks for providing me a reason to keep trying to educate. It may be pathetic and pitiful, but not everyone can hope to be great
I would be more willing to bet that the reason no one listens to you when you try to educate them is because you come across with an elitist attitude, more so than the Mac Zealots around here do. Perhaps if you tried talking to people instead of down at them, you might get further in your edeavors. I was not being sarcastic when I said if you don't keep trying to educate, you wind up doing nothing at all. It was a simple statement of fact, you can not further a cause without educating those who are unaware of your cause.
What is wrong with that? You can't dismiss arguments by classifying them as propaganda or doctrine. One has to read, understand, and then prove them wrong. Your failure to do that can be interpreted in many ways: reading incompetence, unwillingness to face intellectual challenge are some of them.
propaganda n. 1)The systematic propagation of a doctrine or cause or of information reflecting the views and interests of those advocating such a doctrine or cause. 2)Material disseminated by the advocates or opponents of a doctrine or cause: wartime propaganda.
I was not merely dissmissing the arguments presented, however, I am also not willing to accept only those arguments. Just as you would not trust Apple's claims and studies which show the G4 to be twice as fast as the P4, I would not soley trust arguments presented by the leadership of a movement. What is true for the leader is not nessesarily true for the individuals, therefore, I am more willing to accept arguments from the end users, and less willing to accept them from the philosophers.
Please prove them so.
Fine. Open source software, which relies on the community as it's developers, without any commercial backing, has not proven to be a viable alternative for the users. Despite years of development, Linux still remains unuseable to most of the population. The programs availible require too much user effort just to get running let alone run well. The reason this is so is because the software is being developed in people's spare time and as a hobby. This means, what suffices for the hobyist is good enough. Unfortunately the hobbyist is more familiar with what needs to be done to work the program than the user is. And it will not improve beyond hobbyist styles and structures until there is a reason to improve it. That reason is money. ANd to provide money, you need to restrict information. Money flow is related to scarcity. The more common something is, the less the money flows. Therefore, by restricting code and information, you generate a money flow, thereby inticing people to improve and develop the software beyond "hobbyist levels". This sort of money flow can not be achieved without some sort of restriction on the information, hence the development of a company.
But even outside of IT, haven't you heard about the railroad tycoons, or the military industrial complex, or Enron, or the California energy crisis, or Microsoft?
Believe me, I am no more of a fan of large overberring corporations thanth next person is, however, just because a few corporations are or have been corrupt does not lead to the conclusion that all, or even a majority are corrupt. To advocate the elimination of corporate powers just because of a few corrupt entities would be the equivilent of advocating the end of government simply because a few politicians are corrupt.
It's building a new future, with all the sacrifices that entails.
That's all well and good, but untill that new future is a reality, don't turn away help just because it doesn't conform to your views 100%. When a company releases a program under a semi-free licence, embrace it. Giv eth release a warm welcome and show the company that the users and the OSS movement can be trusted to privde quality and not just spew doctrine.
Yes, and I've given you the reasons: unreasonable forking (because there is such a thing as reasonable forking too) and time wasted reverse engineering file formats, protocols & APIs which should be documented in the first place.
Unfortunately here lies the paradox of OSS. On the one hadn you're fighting for a licensing scheme, and on the other hadn you're fighting to have software which you can licence in the first place. The OSS comunity needs to decide which war they will fight first. Will they develop the software and then come up with a common licence, or will they come up with a common license first. Either way, untill you decide to focus on one battle or the other, neither can be won.
Now spare me the junk. These last phrases in your comment are just that, junk. If you can't do your reading and understand your own time and its signs, even yet don't ever go around calling names and putting words in other people's mouths.
I was simply asking the same I ask of any movement, philosophy or belief. To show me the real world evidence. The end users of whom the philosophy is enriching their lives. Is that truly too much to ask? To see real hard evidence and not just theoretical papers?
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the people must know what's going on so they can make their opinion known, and made good choices about who keeps their jobs and who doesn't.
Look how much having widely availible information did for us before y2k. No matter how many times those of us that knew what we were talking abou tsaid that there was nothing to worry about, people still paniced, and still stocked up. Not a vastly large number of people mind you, but a good majority. And that was just a simple "loss of power and communication" senario. Imagin what the public reaction would be to an "End of the world via nuke" senario. People may be able to make rational decisions on their own, but in groups, people get exponentialy dumber.
As for why Bush is doing what he's doing. Because the public asked him to. Remember after Sept 11, when it was revealed that there was the potential for the government to know about this all before hand (ask me my opinion on that another time)? The press and the public screamed bloddy murder that people weren't warned and no body was made aware of the possibility of a terrorist attack, so Bush is just doing what he was asked to do. If you don't like it, try educating your fellow americans.
Because they were in a park in Texas durring the NexTech Summit (National Summit for Young Technology Leaders), and there just happened to be an electircal outlet near by, and kids brought laptops, network cables, Marathon and a mac emulator.
OK, so what else is new. Web sites and companies are hacked every day. Power goes out all the time. Data get's lost. Have you ever lived through a 2 week black out in the middle of winter? Believe me, bad things happen, but life goes on. The greatest aspect of humanity is our stubbornness. We dont' know when to give up. The world may crash, but we'd come right back and just rebuild.
The thing people fail to realize is that there is no negotiating with people who want you dead. Bin Laden has convinced his people that America is the spawn of Satan. They want us dead. There's no negotiation, no warning, no peace talks, they want us dead. And the only way to stop that, is to eliminate them. Sadly that is the way of life. You have to irradicate those who want you dead, or you have to immobilize them. EIther way, untill America decides that that is our ultimate aim. Bin Laden et al have the upper hand.
Given that we've seen the sort of resources Bin Laden has at his disposal, the fact that our stockmarket hasn't been shut down, the traffic lights haven't all stopped working ans ATMs aren't spewing cash into the streets, I'd say it's pretty safe to say Bin Laden is more concerned with the elimination of his targets rather than the terroising of them.
Help me educate the masses. The internet is not a new world with a new set of rules. The internet is the same world which we live in now, except is a more accurate representation. Regardless, the same rules of life apply on the internet.
1) Don't talk to strangers 2) If it's too good to be true, it is 3) Hide your valubles 4) Get ID 5) Don't be a dumbass 6) Use common sense
People also forget, once you realize someone is taking control over your system, the easiest way to stop them is to disconnect the system, physicaly. Besides, if the remote controls didn't have a manual override, you've got bigger issues than hackers to deal with
Actualy, the fear of the possibility of death is more damaging than actual death. When you leave things up to people's imaginations, they generate worst case senarios that are unreal. Why else do you think most of the violence in a Hitchcok film was never on screen? It plays with your mind.
Terrorism is any act designed to drive fear and terror into the minds of a selected target. Targeting of civilians or military can both be considered terrorism. The point of terrorism, in a stric sense is to fuck with people's heads, not nessesarily inflict dammage.
I personaly would have modded the person down if for no other reason than they used exxesive and unessesary language. At it been toned down abit, or had the language even been appropriate for the context, I would have had no problems with it, but it was over berring.
If slashdot sucks so much, why are you here? Is it because you enjoy sucky things? Perhaps you have nothing better to do with your time than waste it here? Oh well, at least I'm content.
I found that BUffy is quite well writen if you actualy take the time to watch more than one episode. It makes good use of long plots, as well as individual episodical plots. It's combination of one liners and drawn out humor keep a light edge to an otherwise dark series, and more often then not is very accurate in portraying person to person interactions. Yes, Frasier is a good series. I also happen to like Becker, Everybody Loves Raymond (though that's getting old) Seinfeld, M*A*S*H (now that's funny stuff)and a hand ful of other TV shows. I don't find buffy any worse than any of those shows. Is it a show for everyone? No, but that doesn't make it a good show.
The show is actualy a decent show if you sit down and watch it for a bit. It has very nice SFX and well choreographed fight sequences for a TV series, and it's more entertaining than some of the other stuff out there. And besides, it's got some of the best quotes ever. It is a highly quoteable show
What is a Nerd? The typical definition of a Nerd is someone who is passionate about an activity that is not necessarily mainstream. Typically these activities have to do with technology or academia. In addition to the passion, there has always been an aura of being a social outcast associated with the term Nerd.
If nothing else, I think Buffy and other fantasy TV shows qualify as non-mainstream. That being said, this woul dbe news for nerds and is therefore acceptable on slashdot. Just keep scrolling, don't click the link and move on with your sheltered day.
You forget, geeks are rooted in SF&F. To say that a show like Buffy does not qualify as geek or nerd material is elitist, and stupid. And so fine, you ant to read about the other shows, go read about them. No one forced you to read this article.
You don't even have to look that deep into it. Look at the code name. After nearly 5 years of code names like Copland, Rhapsody, Jaguar, Tempest, Wall Street, Nitro, Tsunami, Trident, Cyan, Titan, Allegro, Tempo and the like that Apple would generate a project code named Marklar?
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My question is, why do people need cell phones in class. I college I can sort of make the exception in that they aren't always in class through a set amount of hours, but I remember all to well hearing Cell phones go off in my highschool classes as well. My first reaction was always, what an idiot, why did they leave their cellphone on. My second reaction was, why do they even need a cell phone here. But I've also come up with a third question that's even more pressing than the above two: Who the hell is calling? My cell number is given to a slect few people all of whom know my basic schedual and who know when it would not be a good time to call (assuming the cell phone is on during those times anyway), are people truly giving their cell numbers to people that they don't know well so that they can be called at any time by anyone? That's just plain stupidity.
On the other hand, I will never forget my favorite cell phone mishap. I was in my psychology class when another student's phone went off. Realizing his serious mistake, the student quickly turned the cell phone off and apologized to the teacher (students with manners, imagine that). However, the teacher wasn't quite satisfied. He wanted to know the same thing I did, who was calling at a time like that. (keep in mind this was in highschool when durring a certain set of hours every day, you are in school). The teacher asked the student to take the phone out and call the person back. The student did so and then at the teacher's request turned on the speaker phone aspect and pretended to be the student. Much to the amusement of the class, the student and the teacher, the person on the other end was a college friend of the student who was completely drunk and had no idea what he was doing or saying. Needless to say it was an entertaining class.
Aren't you all so lucky, no only do you get to hear my opinion (as if you cared) bu tI get to pull out a related anime quote for extra karma points. Anyways...
While it may not be perfect now, the idea and (if it exists) the current prototype are enough to generate interest and development. To use a computer related example, when Xerox developed the GUI at PARC, it was far from perfect. If the type of cynicism with which we look at things today existed then, the GUI might never have been developed any further. But someone (notably some Apple employees) saw potential and said that it could be developed and improved. And they were right.
Now for my anime quote - from Ghost in the Shell:
"If man realizes technology is within reach he achives it, like it's damn near instictive."
But the IR detectors used for locating the individual are using light. Not visable light but they are using light. And as we all know light is a wave, and when waves interect with other waves, they can be distorted. Perhaps it is possible to distort the IR waves enough to remain undetected.
By the time they got too close to the sniper, they'd be dead.
Thanks for providing me a reason to keep trying to educate. It may be pathetic and pitiful, but not everyone can hope to be great
I would be more willing to bet that the reason no one listens to you when you try to educate them is because you come across with an elitist attitude, more so than the Mac Zealots around here do. Perhaps if you tried talking to people instead of down at them, you might get further in your edeavors. I was not being sarcastic when I said if you don't keep trying to educate, you wind up doing nothing at all. It was a simple statement of fact, you can not further a cause without educating those who are unaware of your cause.
What is wrong with that? You can't dismiss arguments by classifying them as propaganda or doctrine. One has to read, understand, and then prove them wrong. Your failure to do that can be interpreted in many ways: reading incompetence, unwillingness to face intellectual challenge are some of them.
propaganda n.
1)The systematic propagation of a doctrine or cause or of information reflecting the views and interests of those advocating such a doctrine or cause.
2)Material disseminated by the advocates or opponents of a doctrine or cause: wartime propaganda.
I was not merely dissmissing the arguments presented, however, I am also not willing to accept only those arguments. Just as you would not trust Apple's claims and studies which show the G4 to be twice as fast as the P4, I would not soley trust arguments presented by the leadership of a movement. What is true for the leader is not nessesarily true for the individuals, therefore, I am more willing to accept arguments from the end users, and less willing to accept them from the philosophers.
Please prove them so.
Fine. Open source software, which relies on the community as it's developers, without any commercial backing, has not proven to be a viable alternative for the users. Despite years of development, Linux still remains unuseable to most of the population. The programs availible require too much user effort just to get running let alone run well. The reason this is so is because the software is being developed in people's spare time and as a hobby. This means, what suffices for the hobyist is good enough. Unfortunately the hobbyist is more familiar with what needs to be done to work the program than the user is. And it will not improve beyond hobbyist styles and structures until there is a reason to improve it. That reason is money. ANd to provide money, you need to restrict information. Money flow is related to scarcity. The more common something is, the less the money flows. Therefore, by restricting code and information, you generate a money flow, thereby inticing people to improve and develop the software beyond "hobbyist levels". This sort of money flow can not be achieved without some sort of restriction on the information, hence the development of a company.
But even outside of IT, haven't you heard about the railroad tycoons, or the military industrial complex, or Enron, or the California energy crisis, or Microsoft?
Believe me, I am no more of a fan of large overberring corporations thanth next person is, however, just because a few corporations are or have been corrupt does not lead to the conclusion that all, or even a majority are corrupt. To advocate the elimination of corporate powers just because of a few corrupt entities would be the equivilent of advocating the end of government simply because a few politicians are corrupt.
It's building a new future, with all the sacrifices that entails.
That's all well and good, but untill that new future is a reality, don't turn away help just because it doesn't conform to your views 100%. When a company releases a program under a semi-free licence, embrace it. Giv eth release a warm welcome and show the company that the users and the OSS movement can be trusted to privde quality and not just spew doctrine.
Yes, and I've given you the reasons: unreasonable forking (because there is such a thing as reasonable forking too) and time wasted reverse engineering file formats, protocols & APIs which should be documented in the first place.
Unfortunately here lies the paradox of OSS. On the one hadn you're fighting for a licensing scheme, and on the other hadn you're fighting to have software which you can licence in the first place. The OSS comunity needs to decide which war they will fight first. Will they develop the software and then come up with a common licence, or will they come up with a common license first. Either way, untill you decide to focus on one battle or the other, neither can be won.
Now spare me the junk. These last phrases in your comment are just that, junk. If you can't do your reading and understand your own time and its signs, even yet don't ever go around calling names and putting words in other people's mouths.
I was simply asking the same I ask of any movement, philosophy or belief. To show me the real world evidence. The end users of whom the philosophy is enriching their lives. Is that truly too much to ask? To see real hard evidence and not just theoretical papers?
the people must know what's going on so they can make their opinion known, and made good choices about who keeps their jobs and who doesn't.
Look how much having widely availible information did for us before y2k. No matter how many times those of us that knew what we were talking abou tsaid that there was nothing to worry about, people still paniced, and still stocked up. Not a vastly large number of people mind you, but a good majority. And that was just a simple "loss of power and communication" senario. Imagin what the public reaction would be to an "End of the world via nuke" senario. People may be able to make rational decisions on their own, but in groups, people get exponentialy dumber.
As for why Bush is doing what he's doing. Because the public asked him to. Remember after Sept 11, when it was revealed that there was the potential for the government to know about this all before hand (ask me my opinion on that another time)? The press and the public screamed bloddy murder that people weren't warned and no body was made aware of the possibility of a terrorist attack, so Bush is just doing what he was asked to do. If you don't like it, try educating your fellow americans.
Because they were in a park in Texas durring the NexTech Summit (National Summit for Young Technology Leaders), and there just happened to be an electircal outlet near by, and kids brought laptops, network cables, Marathon and a mac emulator.
So another can take his place? That's like fighting cancer by killing off the first cancer cell. IT doesn't get rid of the rest.
OK, so what else is new. Web sites and companies are hacked every day. Power goes out all the time. Data get's lost. Have you ever lived through a 2 week black out in the middle of winter? Believe me, bad things happen, but life goes on. The greatest aspect of humanity is our stubbornness. We dont' know when to give up. The world may crash, but we'd come right back and just rebuild.
The thing people fail to realize is that there is no negotiating with people who want you dead. Bin Laden has convinced his people that America is the spawn of Satan. They want us dead. There's no negotiation, no warning, no peace talks, they want us dead. And the only way to stop that, is to eliminate them. Sadly that is the way of life. You have to irradicate those who want you dead, or you have to immobilize them. EIther way, untill America decides that that is our ultimate aim. Bin Laden et al have the upper hand.
Given that we've seen the sort of resources Bin Laden has at his disposal, the fact that our stockmarket hasn't been shut down, the traffic lights haven't all stopped working ans ATMs aren't spewing cash into the streets, I'd say it's pretty safe to say Bin Laden is more concerned with the elimination of his targets rather than the terroising of them.
Help me educate the masses. The internet is not a new world with a new set of rules. The internet is the same world which we live in now, except is a more accurate representation. Regardless, the same rules of life apply on the internet.
1) Don't talk to strangers
2) If it's too good to be true, it is
3) Hide your valubles
4) Get ID
5) Don't be a dumbass
6) Use common sense
People also forget, once you realize someone is taking control over your system, the easiest way to stop them is to disconnect the system, physicaly. Besides, if the remote controls didn't have a manual override, you've got bigger issues than hackers to deal with
Actualy, the fear of the possibility of death is more damaging than actual death. When you leave things up to people's imaginations, they generate worst case senarios that are unreal. Why else do you think most of the violence in a Hitchcok film was never on screen? It plays with your mind.
Terrorism is any act designed to drive fear and terror into the minds of a selected target. Targeting of civilians or military can both be considered terrorism. The point of terrorism, in a stric sense is to fuck with people's heads, not nessesarily inflict dammage.
I personaly would have modded the person down if for no other reason than they used exxesive and unessesary language. At it been toned down abit, or had the language even been appropriate for the context, I would have had no problems with it, but it was over berring.
If slashdot sucks so much, why are you here? Is it because you enjoy sucky things? Perhaps you have nothing better to do with your time than waste it here? Oh well, at least I'm content.
So, maybe JW liked some of the ideas from OLS and decided to make them into a TV series, if it's good, more power too him.
I found that BUffy is quite well writen if you actualy take the time to watch more than one episode. It makes good use of long plots, as well as individual episodical plots. It's combination of one liners and drawn out humor keep a light edge to an otherwise dark series, and more often then not is very accurate in portraying person to person interactions. Yes, Frasier is a good series. I also happen to like Becker, Everybody Loves Raymond (though that's getting old) Seinfeld, M*A*S*H (now that's funny stuff)and a hand ful of other TV shows. I don't find buffy any worse than any of those shows. Is it a show for everyone? No, but that doesn't make it a good show.
I dare you to go watch any Andrew Lloyd Webber production and walk away from it going "That was Cheezy" Espesialy Jesus Christ Superstar
The show is actualy a decent show if you sit down and watch it for a bit. It has very nice SFX and well choreographed fight sequences for a TV series, and it's more entertaining than some of the other stuff out there. And besides, it's got some of the best quotes ever. It is a highly quoteable show
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What is a Nerd? The typical definition of a Nerd is someone who is passionate about an activity that is not necessarily mainstream. Typically these activities have to do with technology or academia. In addition to the passion, there has always been an aura of being a social outcast associated with the term Nerd.
If nothing else, I think Buffy and other fantasy TV shows qualify as non-mainstream. That being said, this woul dbe news for nerds and is therefore acceptable on slashdot. Just keep scrolling, don't click the link and move on with your sheltered day.
You forget, geeks are rooted in SF&F. To say that a show like Buffy does not qualify as geek or nerd material is elitist, and stupid. And so fine, you ant to read about the other shows, go read about them. No one forced you to read this article.
When you are developing the software though, that would constitute R&D which under the APSL is not required to release the source.
You don't even have to look that deep into it. Look at the code name. After nearly 5 years of code names like Copland, Rhapsody, Jaguar, Tempest, Wall Street, Nitro, Tsunami, Trident, Cyan, Titan, Allegro, Tempo and the like that Apple would generate a project code named Marklar?