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Faith Returns to Buffy
duffbeer writes "According to an
article at Yahoo!, Eliza Dushku will be in the upcoming Buffy season
7! Five episodes are scheduled, along with three over on Angel. Now starting the oft-mentioned space-cowboy-thriller Firefly on Fox, I wonder if Joss have enough juice left
over to invent plots for Faith
as entertaining as those in the past?" Since the Slayer line has to continue through Faith, and since Gellar wants to leave the show after season 7, there is much interesting plot potential with Faith's return.
Makes me think one of the editors let his girlfriend have article approval privileges...
-Looking for a job as a materials chemist or multivariat
Look, we *have* to keep watching inane, mindless televison, or else the terrorists have already won!
Please.
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This is also News for Nerds, and Buffy has quite a following in that demographic. Besides, if you don't want news about tv-shows, disable the damn category in your preferences. It's not like it's hard or anything.
always refreshing when taco posts about buffy. good to know I'm not alone in my fanaticism.
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I just wanted to write more or less the same. Thanks.
Completely agreed. I mean, what has slashdot become? A anime-movie-news-site? Fuck it hey! I want tech-news, esp. from the fs/os area!
Taco, aren't you a married man? What if your wife saw you drooling over some young starlet? What if your kids were to pull out this post 10 years from now? Shame on you!
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I thought I had been redirected to tvguide.com or something for a minute.. yes buffy posts are lame, in fact one can regularly read other sites (linuxtoday.com seems to be a major one) and predictably guess which stories will be on slashdot within several hours.. i read that venezuelan gov't post from yesterday the day before on linuxtoday and that is one small example..
buffy sucks, the movie sucked, the WB is the sole reason for the downfall of America
and no I don't care if I burn mod points either, I love how everyone screams about their rights on here but as soon as you're disagreed with people waste no time dropping mod points on you like you were hiroshima
Sorry.. *cough*.. haha.. I just thought I heard someone use the words "Buffy" and "plot" in the same sentance.. followed by the word "interesting". Haha.. oh.. shit.
You're right, but I want to hear stories about Star Trek and Firefly, and any other interesting show that might be on television. Is there any way to disable the "non-geek-uninteresting-tvshow-boring-news" catergory? Of course not. And besides, whether or not I can see the story about buffy, it's still a sign that slashdot's quality is waning.
Its sunday everyone. Like you have anything better to do then bitch about Buffy.
Mikey
I've always been the kinda guy to fall for the girl dressed like an eskimo.
There are some TV show posts I want to see. ones with technical issues, like discussing the tech of CSI or the special effects on other shows.
but i'd still be annoyed if slashdot posted that the secondary character on CSI was leaving or returning.
I come to slash for tech/sci/geek appropriate information. The geek appropriate information is a stretch here.
Yes, I agree! Cowboyneal, start stocking the underground bomb shelter, taco and I need to start chopping firewood for the coming nuclear winter!
Remember, dying early means not having enough time to pray to get into heaven, kids. Have mommy and daddy start buying canned goods and camping equipment today!
buffy sucks
i cannot eject all possible bilious commentary
that would be true. suffice it to say that buffy
sucks, and most buffy fans suck.
buffy
Sucks
Having never seen this Buffy show that you speak of I had to do some research. I discovered that Eliza Dushku is an attractive woman.
Watching Cowboy Bebop in my jammies, eating a bowl of Shreddies.
I've seen her in 3 different movies/TV shows and never understood why she always looked so familiar.. until I checked her name in IMDB. Besides of Faith, She was Schwartz' daughter in True Lies and Missy in JayAndSilentBobStrikeBack (sucky movie, btw.. Clerks and Chasing Amy were much better).
Is she single?
Slashdot community, please notice: I am looking for a girlfriend.
Nave H. Weiss
Signatures are a waste of bandwi (buffering...)
"Another step"? So they're 15miles and 2 feet away, not just 15miles?
fuck.
Well done
...since Gellar wants to leave the show after season 7, there is much interesting plot potential with Faith's return.
Yep! Since Little sis is going to take over the family business. Or something.
Now that would be a reason to watch Buffy again!
With my penis.
Personally, I don't find BTVS at all interesting, or entertaining.
In any case, though, this whole thing is off-topic, as it's not news for nerds, and it is stuff that doesn't matter.
They have to do something. Since the move to UPN, something has been different. Buffy has gone the way of most sitcoms in that unless you have seen 3 of the 5 most recent episodes, the storyline is lost. Buffy used have stand alone episodes - each was fun, "light", and had both a beginning and an end. Lately, ever since Glorificus, it has been impossible to watch episodes out of order. The Buffy character seems to have been written into a corner, and even the introduction of the 3 arch nemisises (this is the slashdot tie-in) and their subsequent disposal has not been able break the cyclic decline into soap operadom. Maybe, if Faith kills everyone and becomes the dark slayer, we can return to the stand alone episodes of the early days and leave behind political statments and ratings whoring of the lesbian duo. I just wish they would do another musical episode. Once More, With Feeling is my favorite by far. My $.02 - and remember, an opinion is never worth more than you paid for it.
Anything you say will be held against you.
Hey! Don't criticise Anime, I think BTVS is rubbish, but Anime is a lot more entertaining than, "Oooww, I'm so excited, I've just bought a faster CPU, or saying that Microsoft did something wrong. REALLY? Wow, like I couldn't have predicted THAT was going to happen.
Find a show on TV today showing a better role model for the 'nerds' of the generation, even without getting into the whole gay/bisexual nerds can be important also subplot.
Take the quiet kid at school, bit of an outsider, not liked by anyone except an old male friend. In her spare time, she browses the town's computers systems, and has 'Accidentally' broken into pretty much every computer in the town [1]
Then a superhero turns up, saves her life and gives her some direction and a new sense of priorities. She begins spreading further and wider, meets up with another nerd crossing old tech and new tech, picks up on that and forges a valuable weapon in the defense of the world (althout she did accidentally releases a self-multiplying daemon onto the internet, a bit like Robert Morris, Jr did [2]). She even ends up teaching some classes in Highschool to people her own age[3].
She gets offered a job at the worlds largest software manufacturer [4], and pretty much every university in the world [5] but turns it down to fight evil instead. When the highschool is threatened, the athletic and the popular kids turn to her as one of the few people who can help [6].
Arriving in College, still the outsider, she still wanders around before finally discovering that there are other people like her, and when they get together there is practically nothing they cannot do [7] including giving her the power to attack a God [8], take over as the leader of the team that defends Earth from Hell for six months [9], and when her lover is killed she decides to destroy the entire world to save everyone from the pain of living[10]
If that's not a path to base your entire life on, I don't know what is. Also, she's the only person to ever have a iMac laptop upgraded with the telepathic optional kit, making it actually useful.
Personally, I hope that SMG does quit so they can have the Scooby Gang series : Willow, Xander, Giles and Dawn. Other people won't agree with me, but there's more stories to work with if they have to remake the Slayer out of her clone with Faith's Assistance, then by continuing with Buffy
(In case you were keeping count:
[1] Welcome to the Hellmouth
[2] I Robot, You Jane
[3] Passion
[4] What's My Line
[5] Choices
[6] Graduation Day
[7] Hush
[8] Tough Love
[9] Barganing
[10] Grave)
No, and that's why at the end of the season, when Buffy is gone, the show should be, too. How many other good shows have tried to squeak out one last final season after they should've finished, and have resulted in tarnishing the series as a whole. 7 years is a LONG time in TV time. Most shows never even approach that. 7 seasons gives them around 150 episodes, which is a great amount for syndication.
Please, don't make us sit through a season 8 or a lame Dawn spinoff.... Now... a Spike spinoff... that's another story.
Nah - they've already done that, unfortunately. Completely different personality, yeah - but he's still just another vampire with a soul. I'm really hoping he moves over to Angel when all this is done though.
Last post!
> And besides, whether or not I can see the story about buffy, it's still a sign that slashdot's quality is waning.
/. is well known and loved for its "trash" appeal. If you want quality go read bbc.
Funniest post. Ever.
Dude,
That new FireFly show, judging by the preview at least, is a complete rip-off of Outlaw Star. Theplot looks exactly the same.
-- Eric
Season 6 was terrible.... the acting looked terrible, the character interraction was terrible (blaaa lbaaa blaa blaa blaaa, 1 fight scene or 2, blaaa blaaa blaaa blaa blaa)
I mean, it's okay to have character interaction, but over 50% of talking and silence and so on in a show that you were looking at because it had a "season" storyline and lots of action and intrigues to which you didn't want to miss anything. In that season 5 rocked, and when buffy died, she should have stayed dead, after that the show just plain sucked (exept maybe the last episode of season 6).
Look at Angel, season 3 just rocked, they kept the same mood, storyline, action, darkness, heck this is supposed to be the "buffy for girls" show and I am way more on that one than on Buffy.
I always thought a good show ends up at it's peak with a good end of story, and if you want to cash in extra, you create a spinnoff that will rock as much (angel rocks). Waiting till a show suck just enough that it loses all popularity in order to cancel it shouldn't be the way to do things. And there would be trememdous value after to buy the whole episodes on DVD season by season (and ALL of them would actually sell) and be of great entertainment. Of course, we're talking about the TV industry..... so... if they'd be any stronger and have it their way, they'd film a rock for 30 minutes and charge us for it.
--- Metamoderating abusive downgraders since my 300th post.
/.ers watch BUFFY!? Man, I knew you guys were nerds, but I thought there was at least some intelligence going around in this community. Yikes.
All right, who is the dipshit that modded the parent poster DOWN? +3 is NOT overrated. And besides, quit wasting your points modding people down. People like you break the whole /. moderation scheme from something that could work into something that doesn't.
(Mind you, the parent poster could learn how to spell "definitely.")
I've only watched this show a couple of times, and I've rarely been more annoyed than that. I guess I just find the entire concept of the series, the writing, and all of the characters to be completely irritating.
I've also noticed that all of the die-hard fans really loved that musical episode. Musical episodes suck. I don't care if they're trying to parody Broadway or whatever it is that the authors think they're brilliantly trying to do. (IT'S SOOOOOOOO 3DGY AND ORIGINAL TO DO THE FIVE THOUSANDTH MUSICAL PARODY EPISODE! HUR HUR HUR!) Also: Broadway sucks.
So you mean this guy is much more likely than me to get with her under the sheets?
Guess it's time for me to start eating. Eliza, here I come!!
Christ.. don't you have better things to do than fantasizing on Taco's mom? Get a life!!!!!!!! YA!$ Dfoaisjr wepojiaopsdfij
And we care because? This is possibly the dumbest story ever posted to Slashdot. Of course, Slashdot sucks now anyway, so it fits in.
--Stupid Sig Here--
If it's any consolation to you, I don't want to hear anything to do with Star Trek, but I look forward to the rare occasions when Buffy news shows up. We balance out. :)
The movie sucked, and the TV show isn't nearly as good as the movie. Why is it news that some wannabe-actress is returning to the series because she couldn't get a part as an extra anywhere else? Sheesh.
This sure isn't "News for Nerds" and it certainly doesn't qualify as "Stuff that matters." It's more like "Lameness from the lazy. Drivel that wastes bandwidth. But you'll read it 'cause we're Slashdot."
This is such important news. To heck with civil liberties, peace in the Middle East, the declining state of the economy, mass starvation in Africa, etc. We're all so happy that Faith has returned to Buffy.
Click on your preferences. Under topics check Television. Submit Preferences. Stop your whining.
This is the best-written show on TV. I will watch until they stop making them, and I hope that's not anytime soon.
Even if it might be interesting (which it isn't in my completely subjective and personal opinion) - in my opinion it doesn't really have to do anything with tech news.
ok, admitted, slashdot nowhere states it is a tech news site, just this useless "news for nerds. stuff that matters" phrase. But this could be anything.
So I just might have got the wrong site.. probably I should be looking for some alternative.
please.
m3 t00!
IT'S CALLED A SPOILER
Like I give a fuck that AnandTech reviewed ATI's Mobility Radeon 9000? Quit whining; just keep scrolling when you see an article that you don't care about.
And if you actually tried watching it, you might like it. I used to think it was lame, back before I ever saw an episode.
Let Kendra return, this would be good news. She was cool, in fact she the only reason to watch the boring show.
Not alone in the least. For some reason, I'm actually looking forward to seeing if Buffy is on the PTC's bad list. Suddenly, censorship isn't so unAmerican. Sometimes, it can be used to save us from utter stupidity...
It should have stopped right after the lame movie with Pee Wee Herman.
Only the State obtains its revenue by coercion. - Murray Rothbard
A show called "Buffy The Vampire Slayer" is, admittedly, very easy to write off without having watched a single episode, especially given its sub-B-movie parentage. Fact is, it's one of the most complex, intelligently written, timely shows on TV.
Having said that, I'd recommend against catching the first episodes of Season 7 without having seen anything beforehand; it'll be incomprehensible. Sorry folks, you've got to start at Season 1 (or 2 or 3, accompanied by a patient Buffy fan) and work your way up.
My lord, some of us don't want to know anything about the upcoming season. It's getting to where you can't read Slashdot anymore....
I ignored Buffy for years because I thought it would be like Beverly Hills 90210 or something. For some reason (I don't even remember why) I started watching the reruns that came on at 7:00 & 8:00 AM on FX. This is (maybe was) one seriously good SciFi show. The whole evil mayor season and the Glory season (I think they were seasons 3 & 4) were interesting, smart, funny, and scary.
The best and most creepy episode is "Hush", where these grinning, silent, evil beings float through town at night and steal everyone's voices and then select a few people each night to cut out their hearts while they CAN'T EVEN SCREAM. About 2/3 of the episode had no dialogue at all, the characters had to communicate in other ways. It was seriously freaky.
I know the past season wasn't as good, but there were still a few stand-out episodes, like the one where Buffy is dreaming (or really IS) in a mental institution and they're telling her that all the slayer stuff is in her mind. And the musical was much better than I thought it would be, it was actually very interesting.
Don't knock it until you try seasons 1 through 4.
First of all, if you don't like TV and don't watch TV, good for you. I do watch TV, and I'm not ashamed of it.
Secondly, the terrorist did win. They made things go boom, people were terrorised. Get over it, they won, and no matter how much more civilians you kill than they, they still won, its not a football game where the score counts.
And since you qualify Buffy as "inane, mindless televison", its clear that your not watching it leads to you not being informed enough to have an opinion that counts. Seriously, its not inane, its smart, and you are a troll...why the hell am I taking the bait from a troll?
Damn hangover...
You can't take the sky from me...
You're right! If I was retarded I WOULD like cheesy musicals! Thanks for putting things in perspective.
Has it ever occurred to Slashdot that perhaps we DON'T like our TV shows' plots announced before they're on! Does CmdrTaco have to join the ranks of ChrisD on my blocked poster list? Bah! Leave me and my sci-fi shows alone! Alone, I say!
I have a really hard time watching TV because of the quality of the content. Unlike most movies (which often have millions of dollars and tens of thousands of man-hours put into them), TV series are made of much less effort, talent, and budget.
People should spend that time reading a book or working on their doctorate or something, instead of watching TV.
Daniel
Sheesh. If you going to post spoilers for the 7th season, you might as well post ACCURATE ones.
Some of us were trying to avoid finding anything out about Buffy's upcoming season. Thanks a whole fucking lot for posting a spoiler right on the front page. God damn, you guys are fucking irresponsible some times. If it hadn't been for the Lone Gunmen thing, I might be willing to forgive it as a mistake, but you idiots should know better. Jesus fucking Christ.
"Destroy science and religion. Science would re-emerge exactly the same; but not religion." - Penn Jillette, paraphrased
Some people NEED to know if Willow is gonna ressurect Tara and live happily every after.
Some people NEED to know if Angel will ever escape from the bottom of that lake.
Some people NEED to know if Xander will ever convince Anya to take him back.
Some people NEED to know if Cordelia will leave Gruselug.
Thank Torvalds I'm not on of them!!!!
You can't judge a book by the way it wears its hair.
That's a great site.. thanks for telling me about it.
Unfortunately, it adopted the "mostly text" approach of IMDB, which can be a big bummer for anyone who wants to see nude chicks now.
Slashdot community, please notice: I am looking for a girlfriend.
Nave H. Weiss
I have seen episodes. hence why i think it's lame.
That's considered newsworthy on \.? And just when I was beginning to think that this site had fully plumbed the depths by being hijacked by Australians...
Remember what happened to Rome ? Mouahahahahaha :]
Go away, Muslims had numbers and maths way before you even knew how to kill the next native american you meet. And you're using those numbers right now to screw the world, big fat-ass US of A ! You're a bunch of morons, as you always were.
Have a nice day.
She did indeed sign for two more seasons....last season. So Season 6 was her first, and 7 will be her second. Of course, unless Joss is a dumbass who can't look a cash-cow in the mouth, he'll beg her to sign for another.
but it sucked so bad the TeeVee turned itself off.
Is it too much to ask that you guys not put spoilers on the front page? This isn't nearly as bad as the Lone Gunmen Incident (LGI), but still... I'm a rather rabid fan of Buffy, and I avoid fan sites and commercials for it like the plague. I want each episode to be a surprise, in the way it was intended. And I know I am far from alone in this.
Perhaps the most unforgivable thing about this and the LGI is that the slashdot editors don't even care enough to fix their mistakes. Minutes after the LGI was posted, there were legions of howling mad West Coasters and Europeans raging about what had happened. To prevent further damage, the story could have been changed to remove any specific references to the plot. Something along the lines of "Something amazingly bad happened in X-Files tonight, click here to discuss". But instead, all they did was add an apology to it. Fecking pathetic.
So now the surprise of Faith's return has been ruined for me and thousands of others. In the next few days, thousands more will check out Slashdot and it will be ruined for them too, because the editors here don't care enough to fix their mistakes.
While I'm in rant mode, could somebody put a fecking "s/definately/definitely/ig;" into Slashcode? Even otherwise intelligent people are constantly mispelling this.
Okay, have you ever actually seen the show?
Now, thanks to the Slashdot spoiler, hopefully less people will watch the series, and hopefully the studios will notice, and hopefully this will be the last ever Buffy The Vampire Slayer series ever made!!!
YES!!!
So, everybody who has moaned about this not being news for nerds, think about it, at least by putting up with this one post, in a few months, we'll never have to read about BTVS ever again!!! Thank you so much Slashdot editors!!! You are brilliantly clever!!!
what IS it with this show? I honestly don't understand the appeal (I mean, now that I'm over 11 years old). I'd sincerely appreciate it if someone could explain the fascination grown men have with this program.
lol
Season 7 is definitely looking like it will be the last. Joss and Co. are making the effort to make Dawn less whiney and more likeable, probably setting her up to have the torch passed. Eliza Dushku has signed on for the last five episodes of season 7 (as well as three episodes of Angel), which fits in with the Dawn-Slayer-Spinoff theory, because Faith will probably die in one of these episodes, passing the Slayer line down to Dawn.
To me, this sounds like a bad idea. Not because I don't think Mutant Enemy can pull it off, but because Joss is an incredibly busy man and the work suffers when he's spread too thin. Look at all the shows he's already got going: Buffy, Angel, Firefly, The Buffy Animated Series, an upcoming Giles spinoff (probably called "Ripper," cool) that has been put on hold, AND he wants to start another new show? We're talking massive burnout potential here. There's some consensus that season six was Buffy's worst (although still okay), and Joss only wrote one ep all season (Once More, With Feeling), less writing than he's done in any other year... this probably isn't a coincidence.
In any case, I'll watch 'em anyways :)
"But the cars are all flashing me, bright lights are passing me, I feel life passing me by" - Stiff Little Fingers
To many sticks, not enough meat... /Rumagent
Oh! Oh! Or even read a book! Or a series of them! Imagine! All kinds of material all strung together in a coherent fasion! Can you believe it? Oooh! Or even paying attention to current events! Imagine! The Continuity! The Drama! The Lies! The Deceptions! The Squirrels on Water Skis!
TV rots your brain, degrades your creativity, and blindsides your imagination leaving you a drooling blob... Which obviously proves I've already watched too much TV.
In mathematics, one does not understand things, one merely gets used to them.
--VonNeumann
We didn't know that another slayer was called the first time until Kendra showed up. There could be another slayer out there from when Buffy died at the end of season 5. It's all up to the creators of the show to decide what is 'law' in their universe.
I stand corrected. I'm definitely not up on my Slayer history. Not being one of those who has an extensive collection of Buffy DVDs to refer to I was relying on my all-too-faulty memory. Having done a little retroactive research, I have discovered that Kendra was apparently Jamaican and showed up in several episodes... ultimately dying in the Becoming 1 episode. There are several web sites devoted to Kendra including kendra-slayer.com where you can find out much more as I should have before posting my original message.
Signatures are a waste of bandwi (buffering...)
How are we using numbers to screw the world? Heck, how are we screwing the world? The world screws itself. Aside from that, the muslim's math capabilities had nothing to do with their religion, which their terrorism does.
You forget, geeks are rooted in SF&F. To say that a show like Buffy does not qualify as geek or nerd material is elitist, and stupid. And so fine, you ant to read about the other shows, go read about them. No one forced you to read this article.
T Money
World Domination with a plastic spoon since 1984
Slashdot: News for NERDS , stuff that matters.
From NerdWorld.com
What is a Nerd? The typical definition of a Nerd is someone who is passionate about an activity that is not necessarily mainstream. Typically these activities have to do with technology or academia. In addition to the passion, there has always been an aura of being a social outcast associated with the term Nerd.
If nothing else, I think Buffy and other fantasy TV shows qualify as non-mainstream. That being said, this woul dbe news for nerds and is therefore acceptable on slashdot. Just keep scrolling, don't click the link and move on with your sheltered day.
T Money
World Domination with a plastic spoon since 1984
If we're all so thoroughly into the Whedonverse, let's concentrate on the important stuff -- like the absence of space noise from Firefly.
Hahahaha I love it.
"Worst terrorist attack", "Holy War against Islam"
"Israel and Palestinians teetering on the brink of Genoci^H^H^H^H^ War?"
You know the apparent "reason" (besides oil and power) the United States is intervening everywhere and pissing everyone off? Its so that the general population can watch buffy/surf the internet etc etc...
I think I devote enough time and money caring about the world. Why aren't people allowed to have a few luxuries in life, as long as those luxuries don't come at the expense of others? So unless anime starts employing sweatshop artists, i can still watch anime, thank you very much.
I admire your troll, however, and wish to subscribe to your newsletter.
And for the record. I really don't care about the Sept11 attacks. Sure its not nice for 3000 people to die, and i feel sorry for their families. But a lot greater injustices and deaths happen in the world every day, and you can't afford to get lost in self-pity. So skip the S11 rhetoric.
Think nothing is impossible? Try slamming a revolving door.
You're too fucking serious dude. Its called scroll down the page, and it works wonders for whiny fucks like you.
If slashdot's quality is waning, why not go somewhere else?.
Actions speak louder than words.
Think nothing is impossible? Try slamming a revolving door.
"I want tech-news, esp. from the fs/os area!"
Like martyn s, you also have the power!
Think nothing is impossible? Try slamming a revolving door.
That being said, I really think that Season 6 was almost great. Unfortunately, when you're doing this kind of creative risk-taking "almost great" usually is equivalent to "bad".
When you say, "They should have let her stay dead", you're forgetting that they chose to kill her off in the first place. In fact, the death and ressurrection had been planned more than a season before. A big gamble -- especially when you've just made a big point that Bringing Back the Dead is a big no-no.
Such an ambitious story twist required soom really good follow-up. And that's where they blew it. Af first they seemed to be leading into a really good arc, which involved a long-standing "good" character getting seduced by her own power and going over to the dark side. But then they seemed to lose track of what they were doing, going off in every which direction. Some of these directions were sort of good (the Evil Nerds had their moments) but most of it was recycled corniness that was better suited to an After School Special. (Magic as addiction? Barf!) Worst of all, none of it did anything to advance the main story arc.
Plus they put some of the characters though changes totally at odds with their past history. And then finally they picked up the original arc very clumsily, killing off a popular character in the process, but not making any real connection with the ideas raised at the beginning of the season. The final eps were very well done -- but I couldn't enjoy them, having been so frustrated by the way they were set up.
Despite his protestations to the contrary, I've come to think that Joss Whedon has spread himself too thin. He claims he delegated Buffy to people who know his mind, but the sad truth is that Season 6 foundered on gimmicks that he never allowed when he ran the show directly. He needs either to do a better job of delegating, or scale his work back.
Faith was easily, for me anyway, the most touching character I've seen on television in a long while. It's uncommon in television to see a character grow so much through a series. Think about all the phases she went through, including all the frustration, heart-break, broken efforts and masks worn, all the way to a final redemption. Underneath everything, there was a good kid after all. So many people in the real world go through similar trials, and never manage to jump the final hurdles. It was very satisfying to see her survive the journey. A very touching character.
Faith is easily one of my favorite television characters to have graced the screen in a long while. --I found Jeri Ryan's (Sp?) charcter 7of9 on Voyager to be similarly evocative, (which was one of the bigger surprises of the last decade of television considering the initial impetus for the character; -Window dressing for a dying series!
Though. . . Since Joss withdrew from directly working on Buffy, the show has turned into exactly the kind of high-gloss 90210 teen-shine crud it originally launched in sharp contrast with. --You know? With wisdom, compassion and actual human insight rather than a 'Pretty Kids' club house full of 'Oh So Meaningful' self-centered drama. Stopped watching about two episodes in last season, right around the time I decided to Never Watch Television Again. (An abstaintion I find myself unable to keep with absolute faith every week, but hey. Balance in all things, right?)
Basically, the problem is that Joss was each of the characters, and knew how to write them instinctively; no formulas or mechanical thinking required. --And perhaps more importantly, he could look over a script from one of the staff writers, and fix in a flash the rough guestimates at dialogue the other writers could only ever try to capture through observation. Like some guy trying to do Kermit's voice post Henson. When such a level of understanding and humanity is achieved, no matter how hard the second in command may try, nobody can ever be Kermit again. Like-wise with Buffy & crew.
Hopefully Joss will be working on the new Faith material. If not, then I'll be damned sure to avoid the living hell out of it. I wouldn't want to see an almost flawless story tainted by new and bullshit writers attempting to work with Faith's character.
Though, this Firefly thing. . . Frankly, Joss is one of the few creative geniuses of our time who has made his mark in television drama. I'll give anything he works on a try.
I just hope that, unlike poor Lucas, he can avoid the thought-police and keep his brain from being sucked out through a tube for being too likely to have a positive impact on culture! Cuz, you know, we gotta go perpetrate our greed and evil upon the world and it would be disadvantagous to have people in the West influenced by wise and humane thinking!
Heavens, No!
-Fantastic Lad
Yes, I have to agree, this is the lamest story I've seen in a while, and while some mod-troll tried to mod you down for being off-topic, this story is off topic. So yeah, my stories about planet formation and Palm m130's suits get rejected, this shit gets in. What the fuck?
Q: Why are you here?
A: It's fun.
Unfortunately, this ep loses some of its best moments in the FX version. It's a decent job of editing, but a lot of my favorite visual jokes are gone. I may have to buy the DVD. Oh wait, I don't even own a player...
People who aren't already hooked are not going to have the patience to sit through the the first season or the the first half of the second. If you can live with not knowing all the backstory (and you're sort of in trouble there anyway -- part of the premise is only documented properly in an out-of-print comic book), a good place to start is midway through Season 2, with "Suprise", which is the 13th ep in Season 2. This ep begins the first really great story arc, and trots out a whole slew of really well-acted bad guys.I actually rather like season 5. The first ep was awful, but it's my personal favorite story arc -- my favorite villain, and a new character is introduced in a truely originaly way.
Although I'm a fan of the show, I have to wonder why this story is here. A front page posting? Is a result of some kind of coherent editorial policy or just a symptom of sloppy editing? I mean, okay, Buffy has a certain geek affinity, and so I understand why it would squeeze in for anthropological interest. But stories about relatively insignificant casting rumblings?
There are already good sources of show and cast minutiae (e.g. Slayage) and spoilers (e.g. The Spoiler Slayer) for those in need. Editors: If you really feel the need to feed us, say, casting baubles, or angsty rumblings about the future of the show, make a category for them. If not, save it. Thanks.
-aT
In my opinion, the show is running out of dramatic territory to cover, and it would be nice if it was allowed to die gracefully while we're still watching instead of die a miserable near-ignored death like so many fine shows.
Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from a rigged demo
--Andy Finkel (J. Klass?)
They handed the reigns over to some brits and aussies and now we have to wade through the boomarang and wombat stories to find anything worth reading. Think its time to go elsewhere. :(
When in the HEL did /. have any "quality" to begin with? Give us all a break and quit whining.
It was.
5
http://tv.zap2it.com/news/tvnewsdaily.html?2773
They call it the least family friendly show on television.
This isn't a spoiler
This is:
Episode 1:
Herc reports that Drew Greenberg indicates that the returning Big Bads will all appear in the final scene of the first episode. My understanding is that this involves some sort of shapeshifting being that appears in the presence of Spike. It shifts into the shapes of several of the Big Bads, from one into the other, perhaps backwards through time. Is it real or is Spike hallucinating?
Episode 2:
The Oracle reports that Buffy is having Slayer dreams. Interestingly, Spike repeats to Buffy something she heard in one of her dreams. Are the writers showing some sort of mystical connection between Spike and Buffy?
Episode 3:
This episode does not pick up where episode 2 ended. We find out later that after Spike's confession about the soul, Buffy ran away, not able to deal with it. However, she, Xander and Dawn come to him for help when they are trying to find out what's behind a dead body Xander found.
Episode 3 and 4:
Spike is still helping Buffy and the Scoobies in episodes 3 and 4, but his sanity is still an issue.
Episode 5:
Anya confronts her past, present and future; Hallie and D'Hoffryn appear; Xander tells Anya he still loves her, but Anya may not be ready to resume a relationship; Buffy gives advice to Spike.
Damn hangover...
Congratulations! You tried alcohol, and you're so proud you have to tell everyone!
Something I've said to my roommates (who constantly filled my TiVo with Buffy all last year):
Buffy would be so much better without Buffy. The show is very entertaining, all the characters are interesting and amusing in their own respect. Except Gellar. She is way too annoying to be amusing. Her one-liners seem to sink the show to an unwatchable level of stupidity. Her character is unrealisticly goody-two-shoed, even when she had the "fling" with Spike. If Buffy leaves, I might be inclined to actively watch the show (instead of watching it because my roommates were, and there was nothing else to do). Besides that, Faith could make killing vampires actually look interesting again.
Similarly, Dawson's Creek would be an excellent show, without Dawson...
Ok, I'll skip right by the fact that Buffy just isn't news. At all. And it's taking me all my willpower to do just that. It was a 'B' movie to begin-- But I digress. I did want to mention something about Firefly, however. Without knowing much about it, it strikes me as unusually similar to Cowboy Beeboy and Outlaw Star... Again, it's just a passing glance, but it's got that deja'vu thing happening all over it.
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... when Buffy the Vampire Layer makes the front page. I mean really, as previously stated, is this actually news that matters? I think not. Someone needs to do a major overhaul on the filtering system (also known as CmdrTaco)... I've lost all respect for him.
>> Jesus fucking Christ.
Lemme guess...
You want to cut into the front of the line going to hell.
You think Buffy is not mainstream? HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!
In a day where the world is discussing sustainable development in South Africa, Buffy gets the headlines in /.
I don't care if some people watch that rubish, but I believe discussions about such non issues should be kept in the appropriate fora (idiotic TV and gossip magazines) and not in a place where "Stuff that matters" is used as a motto.
IANAL but write like a drunk one.
"If that's not a path to base your entire life on, I don't know what is."
:-)
Hmm... perhaps reality?
${YEAR+1} is going to be the year of Linux on the desktop!
"iMac laptop": It's "iBook" moron ;)
Not all systems scale badly!
Nice work, Cmdr Fuckface. And to think.. I barely read /. anymore, but the one day I'm bored and look at the front page.. big old Buffy spoiler. And you're right, it's not even the first time. Didn't CmdrTaco even post something like, "I never would've posted the Lone Gunman spoiler?" And now he goes and posts this.
Ok heres what I see in my crystal ball 1.Spike becomes a winny little toad and buffy stakes him. 2.Faith come to sunnydale and hooks up with willow (prison will do things to people :) )
3.Faith then gets hit by lighting and dies (for about 1 min see bellow)
4.Dawn gets trigered as the next slayer (she dose have slayer blood you know)
5.Not to lose 2 lovers in 1 year willow heals Faith before she crosses over.
6. The 3 slayers with magic backup from Willow and onya (how ever you spell that) kick but.
7. Zander almost never leaves the magic box just stays there doing research.
This guy, Enclaved, sucks as a writer and needs to get a life. Stop by Walmart on the way home and pick one up. Why does Slashdot publish the moronic ramblings of a cretin that's wanted for mail fraud on Ebay?