oh. and almost forgot. I just HOPE that BGPSEC, in whatever form it takes in the end, is a better idea than DNSSEC or we could just forget that as well.
... the government is hoping that a large-scale implementation by a major buyer will push vendors to properly support DNSSEC. Many vendors don't support DNSSEC at all, or only support part of it; Microsoft, for example, only has minimal DNSSEC support....
and there is good reason why it's a 10 year old technology that is still not widely available.
because the idea is flawed and doomed to failure or will force the big players to invest a lot more in infrastructure than is actually needed for a protocol such as DNS.
whatever idiot came up with the idea of adopting DNSSEC now should be slapped and sent back to school. afterwards we should get on with adopting DNSCURVE and be done with until a more permanent and secure solution is available.
instead of sending your protests send a complete list of everyone you know in SC (including the Senators) with a thank you letter explaining your intention of seeing the listed persons in court before a judge thanks to the new bill and ask if they (the Senator) could help expedite the situation so that no time is lost getting these Felons behind bars.
and also add a list of children you would like to see convicted and ask how to go about that seeing as how ALL children curse and will continue to do so as we all know.
I agree 100% and that is exactly why I started WIPOC (World Internet Providers Organization Counsel) back in the early 90's. had a few ISP's/Hosting Companies interested.
However, a majority of them were like "why? this will all be gone by the beginning of 2000 anyway. They will get it all under control".
Well, hate to say it but "I F*CKIN TOLD YA!"
You CANNOT always push responsibility for your problems onto others. and believe me. it's your networks so it IS your problem.
There is no need to fork Firefox (is shit) as Iceweasel is already the standard solution. If they don't drop Firefox for iceweasel then it's time to fork Ubuntu to keep Ubuntu what it started out to be. Simple as that.
How much do you want to bet that when finished not one politician will own one of these. It would be toooooooo easy to be caught lying, conning and being a politician in general.
so wait a sec here. instead of going to acer or ms to get your vista installed again you went on the net and downloaded some software from a hacker/pirate.
now I know about pirated software but what about pirated customer support. is that illegal as well?
exactly. so the real question is: will there be an actual impact? I mean who actually uses these 2 OS's anyway? certainly not someone serious about security and uptime of services.
non-issue.
An ask slashdot piece I did regarding integrating an existing remote datacenter into and existing datacenter gets rejected and shit like this actually makes it. bout time someone did a/. nock-off.
I've been doing the same for over a year now. that and a netgear wg111v2 in a pringles can works a trick at up to 630 meters (distance from my house to the bar down the street where I help the owner out at times with email and such).
and as an aside. the same netgear dongle works great inserted in a waverider diy para.
It's actually a trivia test. and a poorly contrived trivia test at that. anyone else get the rubiks cube question? there was no correct answer as the bottom face of the cube is yellow (per the second picture in the sequence) and not light blue.
I have to admit that I am in the hosting industry.
However, I try and keep my personnal site seperate from where I work and so I tried ineedhosting.net once. NEVER AGAIN! I was with them a total of 2 weeks and couldn't even get a dump of my DB (they just deleted it) and lost 2 new stories I had been working on. I ended up reg'ing my domain elsewhere and am very happy now.
I can't understand why people can't send an email. What is sooooo difficult about sending a mass mail? You have all the email addresses.
I can understand how things can get out of hand (financially or otherwise) enough to force one to close down services but the least one could do is to warn the people that have placed thier trust in you. Very shallow thinking in my opinion.
Well, muscle atrophy and immune system degeneration are about the only real con's in the whole deal. The pro's would be a bit better.
Without 1 gravity you could expect to live a bit longer than here on earth. Less stress on the heart, less bactiria, cleaner air (as long as it lasts and maintains ca. 13 lbs.) and more time to exercise the brain (what's to do other than repair the station and read).
I say send em to Lunar Authority and let em swap for LA Script 1:1.
Then again Bank of HK has really high interest rates. Mostly due to them shunning Lunar Authority and having lower taxes than Lunar City does (especially air and water tax IIRC).
But if we do send em to Bank of HK then by all means send them to the Lunar City office as they will be required to pay LA taxes on the funds transferred as well as the BHK rates.
This still won't be as good as a 1:1 LA Script exchange but would still enlarge a certain Southern cavity of those transfering the loot.
P.S. The Lunar stories from Rob are really the only ones worth a damn.
>> Not quite. SW was 2.2.19 based when >> we forked, but who cares.
>actually, when you forked, SmoothWall was 2.2.20 >based, but let's not let the facts get in the >way of things
Well, the actual ISO wasn't. now if you applied all the fixes, except the nagware (fixes4), then yes it would be 2.2.20 after applying fixes5. However, IPCop forked in November and the 2.2.20 patch (fixes5) came out on the 6th of that month (approximately).
>The GUI is exactly the same when you look at the >nuts and bolts of it. You (the ipcop team) have >changed the colours slightly, removed/replaced >some graphical elements, but otherwise it's VERY >recognisable as SmoothWall. Were you to >radically overhaul the entire look and feel of >ipcop, then I'd grant you "quite a bit" of a >difference.
Well of course. Both GUI's interface with almost the same underlaying software and there is only so much to do. However, the bugs in the original SW code aren't there and it does have a quite different look compared to SW. Honestly, I like the look of SW better but I like the amount and format of the information in IPCop better. Kind of a a toss-up.
>> Do you really want to talk about support?
>Sorry, i was referring to grass-roots support, >i.e. advocacy.
Sorry, but that's not what he was refering to and what you replied to. Next time qualify your answer if you wish to deviate from the topic. As far as advocacy goes, we are not looking for it from anyone other than those that make use of the package. And that we have.
>again, don't let the facts get in the way of >anything else chuck... SmoothWall has tens, if >not hundreds, of thousands of active users, plus >god knows how many ISO downloads...
That I truely doubt. However, let's take it at face value and say you do have that many users. How many will you have next year? I'd say about half, and that's being nice. Once somebody needs help IPCop will get a new user. Those are the facts.
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s/should/shouldn't/p
Well, like my father told me about throwing it against a wall and taking what sticks.
If it sticks it's most likely shit and you should touch it. Instead, pick up what didn't stick as it seems to be rather solidly made.
just my 2 cents.
you can mod him down but he does have a point you know.
just like the legalization and taxation of marijuana would work.
Mod parent +1 insightful. Yes, I took the grandparent's girlfriend. And, when I tried to give the bitch back, She threatened me!!
there. fixed that for you. ;)
oh. and almost forgot. I just HOPE that BGPSEC, in whatever form it takes in the end, is a better idea than DNSSEC or we could just forget that as well.
... the government is hoping that a large-scale implementation by a major buyer will push vendors to properly support DNSSEC. Many vendors don't support DNSSEC at all, or only support part of it; Microsoft, for example, only has minimal DNSSEC support. ...
and there is good reason why it's a 10 year old technology that is still not widely available.
because the idea is flawed and doomed to failure or will force the big players to invest a lot more in infrastructure than is actually needed for a protocol such as DNS.
whatever idiot came up with the idea of adopting DNSSEC now should be slapped and sent back to school. afterwards we should get on with adopting DNSCURVE and be done with until a more permanent and secure solution is available.
The solution is very simple.
instead of sending your protests send a complete list of everyone you know in SC (including the Senators) with a thank you letter explaining your intention of seeing the listed persons in court before a judge thanks to the new bill and ask if they (the Senator) could help expedite the situation so that no time is lost getting these Felons behind bars.
and also add a list of children you would like to see convicted and ask how to go about that seeing as how ALL children curse and will continue to do so as we all know.
just my 2 cents.
what he said.
and one more.
WANDEAG
no wait. I got the ball glove. just give me a sec to get behind him and I'm sure once I hand it to him he will get it.
Bob,
I agree 100% and that is exactly why I started WIPOC (World Internet Providers Organization Counsel) back in the early 90's. had a few ISP's/Hosting Companies interested.
However, a majority of them were like "why? this will all be gone by the beginning of 2000 anyway. They will get it all under control".
Well, hate to say it but "I F*CKIN TOLD YA!"
You CANNOT always push responsibility for your problems onto others. and believe me. it's your networks so it IS your problem.
rant done. nothing left to see here. enjoy. ;)
There is no need to fork Firefox (is shit) as Iceweasel is already the standard solution. If they don't drop Firefox for iceweasel then it's time to fork Ubuntu to keep Ubuntu what it started out to be. Simple as that.
How much do you want to bet that when finished not one politician will own one of these. It would be toooooooo easy to be caught lying, conning and being a politician in general.
and i'll lay money on less anonymous.
so wait a sec here. instead of going to acer or ms to get your vista installed again you went on the net and downloaded some software from a hacker/pirate.
now I know about pirated software but what about pirated customer support. is that illegal as well?
exactly. so the real question is: will there be an actual impact? I mean who actually uses these 2 OS's anyway? certainly not someone serious about security and uptime of services. non-issue.
An ask slashdot piece I did regarding integrating an existing remote datacenter into and existing datacenter gets rejected and shit like this actually makes it. bout time someone did a /. nock-off.
I've been doing the same for over a year now. that and a netgear wg111v2 in a pringles can works a trick at up to 630 meters (distance from my house to the bar down the street where I help the owner out at times with email and such). and as an aside. the same netgear dongle works great inserted in a waverider diy para.
It's actually a trivia test. and a poorly contrived trivia test at that. anyone else get the rubiks cube question? there was no correct answer as the bottom face of the cube is yellow (per the second picture in the sequence) and not light blue.
I have to admit that I am in the hosting industry. However, I try and keep my personnal site seperate from where I work and so I tried ineedhosting.net once. NEVER AGAIN! I was with them a total of 2 weeks and couldn't even get a dump of my DB (they just deleted it) and lost 2 new stories I had been working on. I ended up reg'ing my domain elsewhere and am very happy now. I can't understand why people can't send an email. What is sooooo difficult about sending a mass mail? You have all the email addresses. I can understand how things can get out of hand (financially or otherwise) enough to force one to close down services but the least one could do is to warn the people that have placed thier trust in you. Very shallow thinking in my opinion.
Well, muscle atrophy and immune system degeneration are about the only real con's in the whole deal. The pro's would be a bit better. Without 1 gravity you could expect to live a bit longer than here on earth. Less stress on the heart, less bactiria, cleaner air (as long as it lasts and maintains ca. 13 lbs.) and more time to exercise the brain (what's to do other than repair the station and read).
I say send em to Lunar Authority and let em swap for LA Script 1:1.
Then again Bank of HK has really high interest rates. Mostly due to them shunning Lunar Authority and having lower taxes than Lunar City does (especially air and water tax IIRC).
But if we do send em to Bank of HK then by all means send them to the Lunar City office as they will be required to pay LA taxes on the funds transferred as well as the BHK rates.
This still won't be as good as a 1:1 LA Script exchange but would still enlarge a certain Southern cavity of those transfering the loot.
P.S. The Lunar stories from Rob are really the only ones worth a damn.
see the one posted above this one. hehe. forgot to select plain text. oops.
chuck
>> Not quite. SW was 2.2.19 based when
... SmoothWall has tens, if ...
>> we forked, but who cares.
>actually, when you forked, SmoothWall was 2.2.20
>based, but let's not let the facts get in the
>way of things
Well, the actual ISO wasn't. now if you applied all the fixes, except the nagware (fixes4), then yes it would be 2.2.20 after applying fixes5. However, IPCop forked in November and the 2.2.20 patch (fixes5) came out on the 6th of that month (approximately).
>The GUI is exactly the same when you look at the
>nuts and bolts of it. You (the ipcop team) have
>changed the colours slightly, removed/replaced
>some graphical elements, but otherwise it's VERY
>recognisable as SmoothWall. Were you to
>radically overhaul the entire look and feel of
>ipcop, then I'd grant you "quite a bit" of a
>difference.
Well of course. Both GUI's interface with almost the same underlaying software and there is only so much to do. However, the bugs in the original SW code aren't there and it does have a quite different look compared to SW. Honestly, I like the look of SW better but I like the amount and format of the information in IPCop better. Kind of a a toss-up.
>> Do you really want to talk about support?
>Sorry, i was referring to grass-roots support,
>i.e. advocacy.
Sorry, but that's not what he was refering to and what you replied to. Next time qualify your answer if you wish to deviate from the topic. As far as advocacy goes, we are not looking for it from anyone other than those that make use of the package. And that we have.
>again, don't let the facts get in the way of
>anything else chuck
>not hundreds, of thousands of active users, plus
>god knows how many ISO downloads
That I truely doubt. However, let's take it at face value and say you do have that many users. How many will you have next year? I'd say about half, and that's being nice. Once somebody needs help IPCop will get a new user. Those are the facts.
chuck
>> IPCop now is using Ext3. See features of V0.1.1.
:)
>As is SmoothWall Corporate Server
>[smoothwall.co.uk], and as will the next release
>of the free version of SmoothWall.
hmmm. Ext3 under GPL and Ext3 after paying.
>> 2.4 Kernel and IPTables in V0.2
>should be interesting to see just how much
>breaks when you do that Jack
Yes. It should
Charles Williams
PM IPCop Linux