Well, in comparison to M$, they've remained relatively benign and tend to produce products of a higher quality. Microsoft has a long history of using underhanded business tactics (e.g. punative lawsuits, abuse of monopoly power) to pursue their ends, while Apple has maintained its edge primarily through innovation.
Well, maybe they are now, but a few years ago they tried suing anybody with a "point and click" interface (one they didn't innovate themselves). Anyone rembeber the PC version of GEM? Sued into non-functionality by Apple. Which, some say, opened the PC market fow Windows.
Ok, I may have over-stated percentages, and later posts are less of the MS is evil variety, but I don't think it's up to 70% yet.
However, I have to wonder, if Slashdot isn't in any way anti-MS, how did some guy's blog entry describing an assinine conjecture based on an unseen packet trace a couple of years ago end up on the front page? Do you think I could get something on the main page under "Why Linux is bad..." if I blogged something unverified about about Linux's threading from a couple of years ago?
700+ comments, 95% of which are: - MS sucks for breaking RFC's - Apache should do something about it - Users of IE are clueless morons.
All of this because some blogger can't read a packet trace correctly. Everyone in the thread who's actually TRIED it (the other 5%) hasn't seen this behavior.
There's no way anything's going to work if IE doesn't send a SYN. Nothing, Nada, Zip. It just won't happen. Firewalls, NAT, transparent proxies would kill it. IIS isn't going to care, the TCP/IP stack won't even let it get there. Same goes for Apache. Get THE book on TCP/IP and find out why.
I think this thread is a prime example of what Slashdot has become. Never mind news for nerds (definition not limited to the Linux crowd) and stuff that matters. We'll post anything as long as it's anti-MS.
As well you should, since no packet trace I've seen from IE to any server (IIS, Apache,...) doesn't send a SYN. (Nor do any of the actual traces posted in the thread).
Not to sound too trollish, but I think many of the non-MS crowd are showing a little too much ignorance and not enough common sense. How do you think your little NAT router is going to work right if a browser isn't setting up a TCP connection properly?
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Well, maybe they are now, but a few years ago they tried suing anybody with a "point and click" interface (one they didn't innovate themselves). Anyone rembeber the PC version of GEM? Sued into non-functionality by Apple. Which, some say, opened the PC market fow Windows.
Maybe they can sue google for taking that away from them too.
Ok, I may have over-stated percentages, and later posts are less of the MS is evil variety, but I don't think it's up to 70% yet.
However, I have to wonder, if Slashdot isn't in any way anti-MS, how did some guy's blog entry describing an assinine conjecture based on an unseen packet trace a couple of years ago end up on the front page? Do you think I could get something on the main page under "Why Linux is bad..." if I blogged something unverified about about Linux's threading from a couple of years ago?
700+ comments, 95% of which are:
- MS sucks for breaking RFC's
- Apache should do something about it
- Users of IE are clueless morons.
All of this because some blogger can't read a packet trace correctly. Everyone in the thread who's actually TRIED it (the other 5%) hasn't seen this behavior.
There's no way anything's going to work if IE doesn't send a SYN. Nothing, Nada, Zip. It just won't happen. Firewalls, NAT, transparent proxies would kill it. IIS isn't going to care, the TCP/IP stack won't even let it get there. Same goes for Apache. Get THE book on TCP/IP and find out why.
I think this thread is a prime example of what Slashdot has become. Never mind news for nerds (definition not limited to the Linux crowd) and stuff that matters. We'll post anything as long as it's anti-MS.
As well you should, since no packet trace I've seen from IE to any server (IIS, Apache, ...) doesn't send a SYN. (Nor do any of the actual traces posted in the thread).
Not to sound too trollish, but I think many of the non-MS crowd are showing a little too much ignorance and not enough common sense. How do you think your little NAT router is going to work right if a browser isn't setting up a TCP connection properly?
Meant FIN, not RST. And I don't know how this got sent as AC. Gotta pay more attention...
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