I like the idea, and not surprising it's already been researched.
http://citeseer.nj.nec.com/santry99deciding.html
The Elephant file system, which was implemented on top of the FreeBSD VFS, is basically a versioning file system that tries to keep as much history around as possible.
It worked something like this:
cd.yesterday
This would allow you to look at your filesystem as it was yesterday. You could also cd to specific times during a given day. It was designed to be more or less transparent to existing applications.
In testing (which I now run) Mozilla is still 1.0, which is what I was referring to. I'm running 1.5 as well, but I had to compile it myself for testing. I guess 1.5 must have crashed for *someone* or it would be in testing by now.
I've had unstable continually break on me. The worst was the event that recently made me switch to testing. After an update, suddenly ALL my GTK apps just segfaulted. No amount of uninstalling/reinstalling/reconfiguring seemed to fix it. I tracked the problem down to something to do with fontconfig, but just couldn't solve it. Dropping down to testing finally made things work again.
I now suspect it might have been something to do with xtt and fontconfig in XFree but I'm not sure. I had tried both Xfree 4.3 and 4.2 in unstable with no luck.
I've had many similar cases. I don't mind so much when something is held back, but when things really break, a week of downtime is a really really really high price to pay.
And I really really don't want to use only the old applications in stable for everyday desktop use.
i'm sure that Debian is usable as a Desktop OS for 'anyone'
Sure, as long as you don't mind running...oh... gnome 1.4 with mozilla 1.0.0.0.0.0.0.0. And don't even think about going on and on about "unstable" being stable.
These companies are there to make money. The Linux desktop market is not that big and the 3D gaming card market is even smaller. Linux support is probably close to last in priority for a company in this area at this stage.
I agree that the parent post was pretty bad and uninformative. But there is some truth to the Tom's is crap rant.
I don't remember the details, but there was an issue a while back where Tom was accepting money for corporations to bias reviews towards them, including posting misleading results. I think that was the point when most of the other hardware sites lost all respect for Tom's Hardware.
One case of bad reporting I do remember involved the Tom's review of a new Intel chip. It turned out that Tom never even HAD the chip, but instead based the review on an existing chip that was overclocked to the new speed. While this would be fine if the new chip was just a speed bump, it turned out the new chip also had some significant architecture changes (maybe it was the first hyperthreading chip actually). Anyways, after the other sites cried fowel, Tom did put up a small disclaimer on the review in question stateing that it really wasn't the new chip.
Probably Anandtech is the most reliable sites now a days.
Unfortunatly Morrowind nerver did it for me. I loved the concept, but a number of things killed it for me. The worst was probably the level treadmill.
(Going off topic here) While it's a great idea to level up skills based on use, it didn't work in Morrowind because of a loop hole you could use to maximize your skills. Basically, if you didn't engage your character until you had sufficient levels in your desired skills, then you could *always* get +5 in three areas. I became obsessed with this and ignored the world mostly.
Another problem was the *other* characters (maybe this is on topic). It's ok to let your character have no personality, but it would be nice if the NPCs had some personality. Nothing felt alive in that game because the characters (for the most part) were permanently glued to a single spot and had the most dry dialog imaginable. It was like running around talking to robot statues or something.
Now Gothic 2 is a *great* game. Not as big and open ended as Morrowind perhaps, but damn are the characters better. Your main character still has no name nor identity except what you make of it. But each character definatly has a personality, and also the characters move around a lot more. It's still very obviously scripted, but at least chacters go to the bar in the evening, sleep at night, and stop working to chat with one another at times. It adds so much to the game world.
But MP3's are lossless even with respect to CDs, noticably so.
I of course meant to say lossy here, but obviously you'd rather think I'm an idiot that realize the typo.
Wrong. Digital studio recordings need to be downsampled for CDs.
Nope. I'm talking about the distributed data here, not the original masters. When you get a CD at 16bit 44khz you get all the data for that range. With MP3, you don't get all the data, even though the quality is claimed to be similar.
It's a pointless argument anyways. CDs are lossy compared to analog (and compared to the digital master if you are going to be technical), and MP3s are lossy compared to CDs. Let me make this perfectly clear.
YOU ARE NOT GETTING THE SAME AMOUNT OF DATA WITH MP3 AS YOU ARE WITH CDS.
And the price is *not* comparativly lower. I'll stick with CDs thanks.
Yes, CD's are really lossless in the sense that the digital signal is 100% preserved. No, they are not lossless compared to analogue.
But MP3's are lossless even with respect to CDs, noticably so. That means that an MP3 is *that much* more lossy with respect to analogue audio. Also, burned CDs don't last nearly as long as pressed discs, and don't work in some finicky players like my car player.
I looked into itunes myslef actually. For a full album you are paying only around $5 less than for a pressed disc. For that extra $5 with a real disc you get
A) lossless (digital) music B) cover art and sometimes lyrics (which the RIAA insists cannot be given away for free) C) media, and good media at that D) much more flexability in what you can do with the music. Some music dowload services give you DRM files.
All this for an extra $5? Let's also not forget that the labels have cut out a LOT of middle men with the online stores and have greatly resduced distribution costs. They are probably making more pure profit on digital music than they did on CDs!
Yes, I'll grant you that there are many nice Americans. I've met many, and am freinds with many. But I've also met many very self centered Americans, both in real life and online.
In my travels to different countries in Europe, I've met no self centered individuals, although I'm sure they exist.
You are right that I am being overly harsh, but this is because I'm tired of the many US centric comments seen on this site.
There is no need to refer to third world countries at all with respect to this story. An American could just as easily be paid to do crimes.
Umm. No. Read his response more carefully. He said that someone could have changed the files of any one of the developers with Bitkeeper merge access.
He said this is unlikely because he 'assumed' that all the core developers have firewalls (nothing about drop->ALL) and secure systems. If someone compromised a core developers system then maybe the trojen wouldn't have been caught. And regardless of how secure your system is, some who is determined enough can probably find a way in, even if it involves physically breaking into an office or such.
I thought he started using bitkeeper because he *couldn't* look over all the patches coming in. Bitkeeper helps him let others have access to certain areas. I'm not so sure he'd notice.
Gosh, maybe this Rutan guy knows what the fuck he's doing, huh?
Do you *try* to sound snotty? Or is that just your natural charm? Did you see me say that Rutan was an idiot in my post? No. So quite being condecending.
It makes a tremendous amount of sense, mostly because it is super cheap.
Maybe, but you can't achieve very high speeds with this. Maybe you don't need to have such high speeds, but something about a suborbital flight suggests to me that high speeds are important.
Now the Avro company (who made the unfortunatlly scraped Avro Arrow), launched scaled down models on rockets. Of course, maybe this is harder to monitor than using a truck. On the other hand, you get much higher speeds and it is also super cheap.
I would actually hope is *is* like Outlook. Outlook has a great user interface minus the damn IMAP pausing bug.
Let's hope it's not like evolution though, a poor clone of outlook (that even managed to clone the imap bugs!) but with EXTRA bugs like the todo list simply not working.
Please list this "far broader range of features" that Linux has.
Journaling file system? BSD has an equivalent. ACLs? BSD has em. Sure, some drivers may be missing, but people could port those over to BSD fairly quickly if the so cared.
The only *critical* feature that you'd be missing is enterprise volume managment. Which again, is a feature born from the corporations, and just happens to have been put into Linux by those corporations. ALSA is also pretty good, but again, this could be ported to BSD as kernel modules. There is nothing special about the Linux kernel. It's a plain old monolithic kernel which is only in the near future getting features other monolithic kernels have had for a long time such as a good VM and O(1) scheduling (BSD may not have had O(1) until this year, but corporate UNIXs sure did).
And again. Linux is not the real world. If you ever actually *worked* at any decently large corporation or university, you'd know that the real world involves heterogenous environments. Linux fits in as a destop and small server piece, but is in competition with Windows and Mac mostly, sometimes BSD (especially on the server end). Linux and BSD don't even come close to big iron like Sun and AIX though. Show me hot swapable cpu support or terminal services or IBM type world class support for Linux and *then* you can maybe think about Linux for the Enterprise. And that's assuming that 2.6 is in production, which it isn't. That's the real world. In the real world, Linux is only an option. That's right, the world does *not* revolve around slashdot and open source.
Yes, Linux could disappear tomrrow with no problems. Any one of the BSD kernels could take over the duties performed by the Linux kernel. All those "Linux vendors" would them immediatly be "BSD vendors".
You cannot credit Linux with the open source movements achievments. Sorry, try again.
The only reason the corporations are using Linux is because of the hype. The only reason Linux is the more popular kernel is due to the AT&T lawsuite that existed when both Linux and BSD were new.
Sure, companies make drivers for Linux, credit popularity again, not the kernel. Do you know why there are not *more* drivers for Linux? Because of the crappy ABI. And know what's more? Most of those binary only drivers are specifically for "Red Hat". Again, Linux is the problem here.
Just because the term Linux is commonly used to refer to the open source operating system technology doesn't mean you get to credit everything to Linux. Try again bud.
BSD owes Linux nothing. It may owe something to the *companies* promoting open source operating systems which *happen* to use the Linux kernel, but certainly not to the Linux kernel.
Was part of your post missing? I'm not trying to be mean. I just don't understand your post. I didn't say anything about him having a real job. I'm sure he does. But there is never any reason to swear. People who don't swear always come out looking far more intelligent, confident, and mature.
Nasty comments just promote more nasty comments. Not solutions. You can disagree, and say someone is wrong. But 'Go fuck yourself' will *never* ever get any debate, conversation, or argument anywhere good.
Of course the same is true of slashdot posters who like to call people teens or claim that someone doesn't have a job or hasn't graduated. Like the AC who replied to me who I don't even bother replying too.
The X consortium may be a pain in the rear, but I'm sure he could have gotten commit access if he approached it differently.
Of sorry if this offends you. But there really is a LOT of anti-american feelings in the rest of the world. It doesn't take a genious to figure this out. Just watch some non-american news stations, or talk to some non-americans, or better yet, go travel.
The may be off topic, but it is in no way a troll. Neither was my last comment. It's simply the truth. It's times like these when the US centricity of slashdot become painfully apparent.
Rudeness never warrents a "Go fuck yourself" in a professional setting. I know that open source people think that it should be 'fun', but if you want to compete with corporate software, it is going to be 'work' and not always 'fun'.
They were perhaps not that kind to him, but he shouldn't come out looking so unprofessional either.
OH! You were replying to a hidden post. Now it makes sense. I thought you were replaying to the original AC, in which case the post was a most perplexing random list of stuff.:)
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I'm curious, why? Do you need to be able to modify ISOs or something? I think IsoBuster can do that.
Man, what American retard modded you as a troll?
As if the first post is not the REAL troll...
I like the idea, and not surprising it's already been researched.
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http://citeseer.nj.nec.com/santry99deciding.htm
The Elephant file system, which was implemented on top of the FreeBSD VFS, is basically a versioning file system that tries to keep as much history around as possible.
It worked something like this:
cd
This would allow you to look at your filesystem as it was yesterday. You could also cd to specific times during a given day. It was designed to be more or less transparent to existing applications.
In testing (which I now run) Mozilla is still 1.0, which is what I was referring to. I'm running 1.5 as well, but I had to compile it myself for testing. I guess 1.5 must have crashed for *someone* or it would be in testing by now.
I've had unstable continually break on me. The worst was the event that recently made me switch to testing. After an update, suddenly ALL my GTK apps just segfaulted. No amount of uninstalling/reinstalling/reconfiguring seemed to fix it. I tracked the problem down to something to do with fontconfig, but just couldn't solve it. Dropping down to testing finally made things work again.
I now suspect it might have been something to do with xtt and fontconfig in XFree but I'm not sure. I had tried both Xfree 4.3 and 4.2 in unstable with no luck.
I've had many similar cases. I don't mind so much when something is held back, but when things really break, a week of downtime is a really really really high price to pay.
And I really really don't want to use only the old applications in stable for everyday desktop use.
i'm sure that Debian is usable as a Desktop OS for 'anyone'
Sure, as long as you don't mind running...oh... gnome 1.4 with mozilla 1.0.0.0.0.0.0.0. And don't even think about going on and on about "unstable" being stable.
You should rename your guide:
"How to capture 0.001% of the market"
These companies are there to make money. The Linux desktop market is not that big and the 3D gaming card market is even smaller. Linux support is probably close to last in priority for a company in this area at this stage.
I agree that the parent post was pretty bad and uninformative. But there is some truth to the Tom's is crap rant.
I don't remember the details, but there was an issue a while back where Tom was accepting money for corporations to bias reviews towards them, including posting misleading results. I think that was the point when most of the other hardware sites lost all respect for Tom's Hardware.
One case of bad reporting I do remember involved the Tom's review of a new Intel chip. It turned out that Tom never even HAD the chip, but instead based the review on an existing chip that was overclocked to the new speed. While this would be fine if the new chip was just a speed bump, it turned out the new chip also had some significant architecture changes (maybe it was the first hyperthreading chip actually). Anyways, after the other sites cried fowel, Tom did put up a small disclaimer on the review in question stateing that it really wasn't the new chip.
Probably Anandtech is the most reliable sites now a days.
Unfortunatly Morrowind nerver did it for me. I loved the concept, but a number of things killed it for me. The worst was probably the level treadmill.
(Going off topic here) While it's a great idea to level up skills based on use, it didn't work in Morrowind because of a loop hole you could use to maximize your skills. Basically, if you didn't engage your character until you had sufficient levels in your desired skills, then you could *always* get +5 in three areas. I became obsessed with this and ignored the world mostly.
Another problem was the *other* characters (maybe this is on topic). It's ok to let your character have no personality, but it would be nice if the NPCs had some personality. Nothing felt alive in that game because the characters (for the most part) were permanently glued to a single spot and had the most dry dialog imaginable. It was like running around talking to robot statues or something.
Now Gothic 2 is a *great* game. Not as big and open ended as Morrowind perhaps, but damn are the characters better. Your main character still has no name nor identity except what you make of it. But each character definatly has a personality, and also the characters move around a lot more. It's still very obviously scripted, but at least chacters go to the bar in the evening, sleep at night, and stop working to chat with one another at times. It adds so much to the game world.
Umm... ok, I'll stop ranting now, must go work.
But MP3's are lossless even with respect to CDs, noticably so.
I of course meant to say lossy here, but obviously you'd rather think I'm an idiot that realize the typo.
Wrong. Digital studio recordings need to be downsampled for CDs.
Nope. I'm talking about the distributed data here, not the original masters. When you get a CD at 16bit 44khz you get all the data for that range. With MP3, you don't get all the data, even though the quality is claimed to be similar.
It's a pointless argument anyways. CDs are lossy compared to analog (and compared to the digital master if you are going to be technical), and MP3s are lossy compared to CDs. Let me make this perfectly clear.
YOU ARE NOT GETTING THE SAME AMOUNT OF DATA WITH MP3 AS YOU ARE WITH CDS.
And the price is *not* comparativly lower. I'll stick with CDs thanks.
Yes, CD's are really lossless in the sense that the digital signal is 100% preserved. No, they are not lossless compared to analogue.
But MP3's are lossless even with respect to CDs, noticably so. That means that an MP3 is *that much* more lossy with respect to analogue audio. Also, burned CDs don't last nearly as long as pressed discs, and don't work in some finicky players like my car player.
I looked into itunes myslef actually. For a full album you are paying only around $5 less than for a pressed disc. For that extra $5 with a real disc you get
A) lossless (digital) music
B) cover art and sometimes lyrics (which the RIAA insists cannot be given away for free)
C) media, and good media at that
D) much more flexability in what you can do with the music. Some music dowload services give you DRM files.
All this for an extra $5? Let's also not forget that the labels have cut out a LOT of middle men with the online stores and have greatly resduced distribution costs. They are probably making more pure profit on digital music than they did on CDs!
Yes, I'll grant you that there are many nice Americans. I've met many, and am freinds with many. But I've also met many very self centered Americans, both in real life and online.
In my travels to different countries in Europe, I've met no self centered individuals, although I'm sure they exist.
You are right that I am being overly harsh, but this is because I'm tired of the many US centric comments seen on this site.
There is no need to refer to third world countries at all with respect to this story. An American could just as easily be paid to do crimes.
Umm. No. Read his response more carefully. He said that someone could have changed the files of any one of the developers with Bitkeeper merge access.
He said this is unlikely because he 'assumed' that all the core developers have firewalls (nothing about drop->ALL) and secure systems. If someone compromised a core developers system then maybe the trojen wouldn't have been caught. And regardless of how secure your system is, some who is determined enough can probably find a way in, even if it involves physically breaking into an office or such.
Please don't make things up next time.
No, I'm suggesting Americans are self centered and think poorly of the rest of the world. And why do Americans think being Liberal is bad?
I sure hope your not suggesting Russia is a third world country. You must be American eh?
I thought he started using bitkeeper because he *couldn't* look over all the patches coming in. Bitkeeper helps him let others have access to certain areas. I'm not so sure he'd notice.
Gosh, maybe this Rutan guy knows what the fuck he's doing, huh?
Do you *try* to sound snotty? Or is that just your natural charm? Did you see me say that Rutan was an idiot in my post? No. So quite being condecending.
It makes a tremendous amount of sense, mostly because it is super cheap.
Maybe, but you can't achieve very high speeds with this. Maybe you don't need to have such high speeds, but something about a suborbital flight suggests to me that high speeds are important.
Now the Avro company (who made the unfortunatlly scraped Avro Arrow), launched scaled down models on rockets. Of course, maybe this is harder to monitor than using a truck. On the other hand, you get much higher speeds and it is also super cheap.
I would actually hope is *is* like Outlook. Outlook has a great user interface minus the damn IMAP pausing bug.
Let's hope it's not like evolution though, a poor clone of outlook (that even managed to clone the imap bugs!) but with EXTRA bugs like the todo list simply not working.
A working outlook would be nice.
Please list this "far broader range of features" that Linux has.
Journaling file system? BSD has an equivalent. ACLs? BSD has em. Sure, some drivers may be missing, but people could port those over to BSD fairly quickly if the so cared.
The only *critical* feature that you'd be missing is enterprise volume managment. Which again, is a feature born from the corporations, and just happens to have been put into Linux by those corporations. ALSA is also pretty good, but again, this could be ported to BSD as kernel modules. There is nothing special about the Linux kernel. It's a plain old monolithic kernel which is only in the near future getting features other monolithic kernels have had for a long time such as a good VM and O(1) scheduling (BSD may not have had O(1) until this year, but corporate UNIXs sure did).
And again. Linux is not the real world. If you ever actually *worked* at any decently large corporation or university, you'd know that the real world involves heterogenous environments. Linux fits in as a destop and small server piece, but is in competition with Windows and Mac mostly, sometimes BSD (especially on the server end). Linux and BSD don't even come close to big iron like Sun and AIX though. Show me hot swapable cpu support or terminal services or IBM type world class support for Linux and *then* you can maybe think about Linux for the Enterprise. And that's assuming that 2.6 is in production, which it isn't. That's the real world. In the real world, Linux is only an option. That's right, the world does *not* revolve around slashdot and open source.
Yes, Linux could disappear tomrrow with no problems. Any one of the BSD kernels could take over the duties performed by the Linux kernel. All those "Linux vendors" would them immediatly be "BSD vendors".
You cannot credit Linux with the open source movements achievments. Sorry, try again.
The only reason the corporations are using Linux is because of the hype. The only reason Linux is the more popular kernel is due to the AT&T lawsuite that existed when both Linux and BSD were new.
Sure, companies make drivers for Linux, credit popularity again, not the kernel. Do you know why there are not *more* drivers for Linux? Because of the crappy ABI. And know what's more? Most of those binary only drivers are specifically for "Red Hat". Again, Linux is the problem here.
Just because the term Linux is commonly used to refer to the open source operating system technology doesn't mean you get to credit everything to Linux. Try again bud.
BSD owes Linux nothing. It may owe something to the *companies* promoting open source operating systems which *happen* to use the Linux kernel, but certainly not to the Linux kernel.
HUH?
Was part of your post missing? I'm not trying to be mean. I just don't understand your post. I didn't say anything about him having a real job. I'm sure he does. But there is never any reason to swear. People who don't swear always come out looking far more intelligent, confident, and mature.
Nasty comments just promote more nasty comments. Not solutions. You can disagree, and say someone is wrong. But 'Go fuck yourself' will *never* ever get any debate, conversation, or argument anywhere good.
Of course the same is true of slashdot posters who like to call people teens or claim that someone doesn't have a job or hasn't graduated. Like the AC who replied to me who I don't even bother replying too.
The X consortium may be a pain in the rear, but I'm sure he could have gotten commit access if he approached it differently.
Of sorry if this offends you. But there really is a LOT of anti-american feelings in the rest of the world. It doesn't take a genious to figure this out. Just watch some non-american news stations, or talk to some non-americans, or better yet, go travel.
The may be off topic, but it is in no way a troll. Neither was my last comment. It's simply the truth. It's times like these when the US centricity of slashdot become painfully apparent.
Rudeness never warrents a "Go fuck yourself" in a professional setting. I know that open source people think that it should be 'fun', but if you want to compete with corporate software, it is going to be 'work' and not always 'fun'.
They were perhaps not that kind to him, but he shouldn't come out looking so unprofessional either.
Wow, the amount of snotty ego in your post just *screams* "I AM AMERICAN". Do you ever wonder why the rest of the world hates Americans?
Here, educate yourself. And don't worry, it's your own academics presenting this material so it's cosher.
http://www.projectcensored.org/
Yes, this is Univeristy sponsored, and accurate.
OH! You were replying to a hidden post. Now it makes sense. I thought you were replaying to the original AC, in which case the post was a most perplexing random list of stuff. :)