One point everyone seems to be forgetting in the "my OS is bigger.. oops, better.. than your OS" debate is that PowerPC Linux has what may be the killer app.. the MacOS itself.
I run it when I need to open that stray Word or PowerPoint document under Linux, and quite frankly, it rocks. Not everything is there yet (like sound support, and multiple serial line support), but what is there is impressive.
(Aside: the Sheepshaver developers were supposed to have a similar app for Power PC Linux, but nothing ever materialized. Pity..)
I'll soon try out additional Web resources for using MacOS Open Transport, MoL, and Linux ethertap support to create a "virtual" firewall. (Almost no configuration except for IP masquerading, no need to buy another box, and I get my MacOS-based VPN client when I need it. Life is good.) -----
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Why would anyone run X over OS X?
To support X-based applications on the local LAN, silly.
My job for example involves using ClearCase. Sometimes I'd like to access it when dialing in from home, including its graphical front-end (from a 56K modem -- yep, I'd have to be pretty desparate). Running an X server will let me do that from OS X.
I hope the Darwin developers will slap in FreeBSD's Linux executable handling capabilities. Then I can have my choice of, say, Microsoft Excel for Mac or the GNOME gnumeric-spreadsheet for PowerPC Linux. Pardon me while I have a seizure during this wave of techno-lust (drool).... -----
...and Rosebud (the episode with Bobo, Mr. Burn's bear)...
I still laugh my ass off when I think of the band Smithers hired to sing "Happy Birthday" to Mister Burns. "Please welcome, ladies and gentlemen, the Ramones..."
Arguably their best piece of guest star casting ever.
Just a message to y'all: you CAN fight the power, so to speak, by expending little effort -- just enough to write your state or federal representatives.
When a similar bill was considered by the Feds, and we were urged to write them, I did just that. An email (not snail mail, curiously enough) to my congressman (Rep. David Price, 4th District, NC) caused a prompt, informed snail-mail reply to appear in my mailbox.
Essentially, Reps. Price and Coble (another NC rep) inserted language into the federal version to permit reverse engineering of software by-products (i.e. data files such as Word documents) that did not constitute the executable product itself, among other things.
Kinda spiffy.
So, for you folks in VA and MD: Write and call your representatives and don't forget to be informative and courteous when doing so. It does make a difference.
For the rest of us: If anyone has a template of such a letter that we can send to our governors and state representatives to keep this shit off our state lawbooks, I'd not only appreciate it, I'd use it. An intelligent, courteous pre-emptive tactical strike would be most appropriate. -----
NeXT had display postscript over 10 years ago. Apple now has display PDF in their upcoming MacOS X.
Correct you are, sir. In fact, during the Rhapsody days, Apple engineers amazed themselves by putting together a Display PostScript interface for their latest effort (soon christened MacOS X Server) in five working days. Yes, the NeXT software development infrastructure was and is that good.
IIRC, the only reason why Apple got rid of Display PostScript was due to PDF's emerging dominance as a graphical layout standard. (Oh well. They had the spare week to code it anyway..)
Anecdotes like this make me hope that OS X Consumer will have some of the development tools available. Drool drool drool... -----
I found it very interesting that, even though only Microsoft employees were polled (hey, it's in the findings, as cited in earlier posts), 37% of them agreed that the company should be somehow punished or compromised. Let me clarify that: It's odd that only 63% of respondents felt that their bread and butter should not be diminished in some way.
If there's any truth to these stats (and I personally don't think there is; it is a blatant push poll after all), I'd be very afraid if I were Bill Gates or Steve Ballmer. A sizeable number of my employees wouldn't object in principle to the compromising of my empire.
Something is escaping me here. I'm not as familiar with digital music as I'd like to be, but I remember the good ol' days of the fight over the DAT recorder.
Isn't this "standard" just the MPAA (RIAA?) way of continuing the fight over digital media? And hasn't the recording industry been trashed in court before over this very issue (copying music), back in the '80s?
As with the Linux/DVD fiasco, I don't see how these folks have a legal leg to stand on, what with all of the precedent out there. Feel free to fill me in.. -----
Here's my Q: Do you plan on supporting other platforms other than the Intel platform? Would you consider these platforms to be a viable market, or fringe players at best? -----
Does anyone here remember the movie 1984? It was Richard Burton's last flick, and was IMHO a very faithful rendering of the novel.
Anyway, the one thing that really stuck in my head was the "newscaster's" voice. The director made the (wise) decision to use the same female voice on all the telescreens whenever any urgent propaganda (i.e. all of it) had to be disseminated.
It drove me buggy. After a while, that voice was irritating as hell. The perfect reaction was acheived as far as I was concerned..
So, today we can have the same voice (only in this version, with a face) droning in the same tones etc. about any and all news? And potentially with censored content thanks to mandatory filters in some locations?
I'm not holding my breath for any high-speed access from home.
In my particular section of the Raleigh NC area, there are two local exchanges which can't be served by DSL yet -- and guess where we live? Essentially, if you have fiber anywhere in your local loop, or if the loop is too long, you lose.. just like we're losing. BellSouth probably won't be adding the necessary peripherals anytime soon, due to their crappy pricing structure. (I wouldn't use HellSouth as an ISP, nor would most people. I guess they figure that they needn't add equipment if I'd only give my money to another ISP (read: competing local exchange carrier)..)
Cable modem? Forget it; Time-Warner owns the cable systems in my burg. Had not A55holes Out Loud not bought them, this might still be a possibility.
And I'd kill for hi-speed access, if only to get decent X11 response from work. -----
the United States of America was, is, and remains, the world's oldest democracy
I could be wrong here, but doesn't the Icelandic parliament pre-date the States by about 700 years? And wouldn't UK's House of Commons count as a body of parliamentary representatives (which sorta kinda implies democratic rule to some extent)?
(What do UK/.'ers think? Does 18th-century England qualify as a democracy in the strictest sense, particularly wrt representation? Any Icelandic/.'ers care to comment? ) -----
You apparently read MacOSRumors, so you should be aware that most sources are reporting that OS X will run on anything [that could handle Rhapsody]..
Yep. But that's just it: MacOSRumors is about, well, rumors. Sure, they're correct most of the time (they're better than the Drudge Report for accuracy, not to mention integrity)..
But I'd like to see genuine support for my not-so-old machine happen. Call me picky, but I really don't want to plunk down hard-earned $$$ for something that might work. (Yes, my standards are higher than those of Windows users, why do you ask? =-) )
So, I'll believe it when I see it (or when someone else takes the risk & reports favorably), and pending that, I'll buy. -----
Apple has really shot themselves in the foot by going BSD instead of Linux
Huh? I thought BSD had/has a compatibility layer for Linux executables anyway. If decent free development tools are out there for OS X Consumer, what diff does it make? License-oriented BS, perhaps? -----
I'd love to have MacOS X Consumer, especially if the BSD command line is available. ( MacOSRumors showed a screen shot of a cmd line window running top; wierd to see it on a Mac, but very cool.)
However, my older 604e/PCI box (upgraded to a G3) will probably NOT see a version of MacOS X ported to its architecture. This is a crying shame, since the box can handle Unix like a champ (it also runs LinuxPPC, and ran MkLinux for a while).
So, if you're an Apple engineer, please read this next paragraph carefully:
Yo! I want to give my money to your company someday! But I won't buy a new box just to run the latest and greatest OS, okay!! Tell your manager about this, 'cuz I sure as hell am not alone on this score!
If OS X is made open source, maybe now we can write new prog's for the mac.
This is not a crazy idea. MacOS X Server will allow you to access a command line (tho' it tries to remove the need for one). I hope the Apple engineers & mgmt. team aren't stoopid enough to remove this from MacOS X Consumer. The minimum tool set you'd need (I think) would be make, gcc/g++, and possibly GNU binutils; some system headers and libs would be nice too. Then you could (in theory) be on your way. (Aside: I *think* a ported GNU suite is provided in the Server release; anyone care to clarify that?)
A big drawback for seamless Unix/Mac integration at the application level, though is the lack of X Widnows support in MacOS. Sure, you could run a freeware X server like MI/X, but it would be nice to compile an X Windows app on MacOS X and have it run on the Mac desktop, or to run MacOS X apps remotely via X Windows.
But all in all, the future is looking more promising for Apple's OS -- hope I get to see a port for my box (was a 604e, now a G3..) -----
This is just too scary. I'm no fan of the NRA -- some of their stances are just too whacked -- but I can see why their membership has certain opinions after reading this.
Perhaps we should not only see the financial rewards of open source being distributed here. Does Slashdot contribute to the EFF or the ACLU (the 2 orgs. that come to mind for combating this bullshit)? If not, should it/we start, even if it means creating a new legal defense fund?
Or maybe we should just take it one step further, and create a cousin to the NRA, say, the National Computing Association..
Just some thoughts, along with this one: No sufficient opposition has ever succeeded without organization. -----
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One point everyone seems to be forgetting in the "my OS is bigger.. oops, better.. than your OS" debate is that PowerPC Linux has what may be the killer app.. the MacOS itself.
Check out The Mac on Linux Page for more info.
I run it when I need to open that stray Word or PowerPoint document under Linux, and quite frankly, it rocks. Not everything is there yet (like sound support, and multiple serial line support), but what is there is impressive.
(Aside: the Sheepshaver developers were supposed to have a similar app for Power PC Linux, but nothing ever materialized. Pity..)
I'll soon try out additional Web resources for using MacOS Open Transport, MoL, and Linux ethertap support to create a "virtual" firewall. (Almost no configuration except for IP masquerading, no need to buy another box, and I get my MacOS-based VPN client when I need it. Life is good.)
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I thought it meant that Jamie couldn't get a gun in polynomial time.
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To support X-based applications on the local LAN, silly.
My job for example involves using ClearCase. Sometimes I'd like to access it when dialing in from home, including its graphical front-end (from a 56K modem -- yep, I'd have to be pretty desparate). Running an X server will let me do that from OS X.
I hope the Darwin developers will slap in FreeBSD's Linux executable handling capabilities. Then I can have my choice of, say, Microsoft Excel for Mac or the GNOME gnumeric-spreadsheet for PowerPC Linux. Pardon me while I have a seizure during this wave of techno-lust (drool)....
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I still laugh my ass off when I think of the band Smithers hired to sing "Happy Birthday" to Mister Burns.
"Please welcome, ladies and gentlemen, the Ramones..."
Arguably their best piece of guest star casting ever.
Joey Ramone: "I think they liked us.."
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"A lot of people say I look like Dan Ackroyd"
-- Homer Simpson
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Just a message to y'all: you CAN fight the power, so to speak, by expending little effort -- just enough to write your state or federal representatives.
When a similar bill was considered by the Feds, and we were urged to write them, I did just that. An email (not snail mail, curiously enough) to my congressman (Rep. David Price, 4th District, NC) caused a prompt, informed snail-mail reply to appear in my mailbox.
Essentially, Reps. Price and Coble (another NC rep) inserted language into the federal version to permit reverse engineering of software by-products (i.e. data files such as Word documents) that did not constitute the executable product itself, among other things.
Kinda spiffy.
So, for you folks in VA and MD: Write and call your representatives and don't forget to be informative and courteous when doing so. It does make a difference.
For the rest of us: If anyone has a template of such a letter that we can send to our governors and state representatives to keep this shit off our state lawbooks, I'd not only appreciate it, I'd use it. An intelligent, courteous pre-emptive tactical strike would be most appropriate.
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Apple now has display PDF in their upcoming MacOS X.
Correct you are, sir. In fact, during the Rhapsody days, Apple engineers amazed themselves by putting together a Display PostScript interface for their latest effort (soon christened MacOS X Server) in five working days. Yes, the NeXT software development infrastructure was and is that good.
IIRC, the only reason why Apple got rid of Display PostScript was due to PDF's emerging dominance as a graphical layout standard. (Oh well. They had the spare week to code it anyway..)
Anecdotes like this make me hope that OS X Consumer will have some of the development tools available. Drool drool drool...
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Somebody moderate this post up, even for just this one line.
Ciao,
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I found it very interesting that, even though only Microsoft employees were polled (hey, it's in the findings, as cited in earlier posts), 37% of them agreed that the company should be somehow punished or compromised. Let me clarify that: It's odd that only 63% of respondents felt that their bread and butter should not be diminished in some way.
If there's any truth to these stats (and I personally don't think there is; it is a blatant push poll after all), I'd be very afraid if I were Bill Gates or Steve Ballmer. A sizeable number of my employees wouldn't object in principle to the compromising of my empire.
Any thoughts?
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Something is escaping me here. I'm not as familiar with digital music as I'd like to be, but I remember the good ol' days of the fight over the DAT recorder.
Isn't this "standard" just the MPAA (RIAA?) way of continuing the fight over digital media? And hasn't the recording industry been trashed in court before over this very issue (copying music), back in the '80s?
As with the Linux/DVD fiasco, I don't see how these folks have a legal leg to stand on, what with all of the precedent out there. Feel free to fill me in..
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Here's my Q:
Do you plan on supporting other platforms other than the Intel platform? Would you consider these platforms to be a viable market, or fringe players at best?
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Does anyone here remember the movie 1984? It was Richard Burton's last flick, and was IMHO a very faithful rendering of the novel.
Anyway, the one thing that really stuck in my head was the "newscaster's" voice. The director made the (wise) decision to use the same female voice on all the telescreens whenever any urgent propaganda (i.e. all of it) had to be disseminated.
It drove me buggy. After a while, that voice was irritating as hell. The perfect reaction was acheived as far as I was concerned..
So, today we can have the same voice (only in this version, with a face) droning in the same tones etc. about any and all news? And potentially with censored content thanks to mandatory filters in some locations?
Am I the only one who sees a parallel here?
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You do know, of course, that in the Czech Republic, you can watch the Nude Weather Forecast..
Who needs art imitating life when life abounds..
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Subj. line sez all...
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Yep. Renewed for a minimum of 13 episodes, maybe as many as 21. It was in the Entertainment section of Yahoo!'s daily news..
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I'm not holding my breath for any high-speed access from home.
In my particular section of the Raleigh NC area, there are two local exchanges which can't be served by DSL yet -- and guess where we live? Essentially, if you have fiber anywhere in your local loop, or if the loop is too long, you lose.. just like we're losing. BellSouth probably won't be adding the necessary peripherals anytime soon, due to their crappy pricing structure. (I wouldn't use HellSouth as an ISP, nor would most people. I guess they figure that they needn't add equipment if I'd only give my money to another ISP (read: competing local exchange carrier)..)
Cable modem? Forget it; Time-Warner owns the cable systems in my burg. Had not A55holes Out Loud not bought them, this might still be a possibility.
And I'd kill for hi-speed access, if only to get decent X11 response from work.
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I could be wrong here, but doesn't the Icelandic parliament pre-date the States by about 700 years? And wouldn't UK's House of Commons count as a body of parliamentary representatives (which sorta kinda implies democratic rule to some extent)?
(What do UK /.'ers think? Does 18th-century England qualify as a democracy in the strictest sense, particularly wrt representation? Any Icelandic /.'ers care to comment? )
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McCain needs SC
But how to beat George Dubya?
Citadel alums!
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Alan Keyes for Prez?
Insufficient charisma!
Sounds like Elmer Fudd.
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Yep. But that's just it: MacOSRumors is about, well, rumors. Sure, they're correct most of the time (they're better than the Drudge Report for accuracy, not to mention integrity)..
But I'd like to see genuine support for my not-so-old machine happen. Call me picky, but I really don't want to plunk down hard-earned $$$ for something that might work.
(Yes, my standards are higher than those of Windows users, why do you ask? =-) )
So, I'll believe it when I see it (or when someone else takes the risk & reports favorably), and pending that, I'll buy.
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Huh? I thought BSD had/has a compatibility layer for Linux executables anyway. If decent free development tools are out there for OS X Consumer, what diff does it make? License-oriented BS, perhaps?
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I'd love to have MacOS X Consumer, especially if the BSD command line is available. ( MacOSRumors showed a screen shot of a cmd line window running top; wierd to see it on a Mac, but very cool.)
However, my older 604e/PCI box (upgraded to a G3) will probably NOT see a version of MacOS X ported to its architecture. This is a crying shame, since the box can handle Unix like a champ (it also runs LinuxPPC, and ran MkLinux for a while).
So, if you're an Apple engineer, please read this next paragraph carefully:
Yo! I want to give my money to your company someday! But I won't buy a new box just to run the latest and greatest OS, okay!! Tell your manager about this, 'cuz I sure as hell am not alone on this score!
Thank you. I feel better now..
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This is not a crazy idea. MacOS X Server will allow you to access a command line (tho' it tries to remove the need for one). I hope the Apple engineers & mgmt. team aren't stoopid enough to remove this from MacOS X Consumer. The minimum tool set you'd need (I think) would be make, gcc/g++, and possibly GNU binutils; some system headers and libs would be nice too. Then you could (in theory) be on your way. (Aside: I *think* a ported GNU suite is provided in the Server release; anyone care to clarify that?)
A big drawback for seamless Unix/Mac integration at the application level, though is the lack of X Widnows support in MacOS. Sure, you could run a freeware X server like MI/X, but it would be nice to compile an X Windows app on MacOS X and have it run on the Mac desktop, or to run MacOS X apps remotely via X Windows.
But all in all, the future is looking more promising for Apple's OS -- hope I get to see a port for my box (was a 604e, now a G3..)
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This is just too scary. I'm no fan of the NRA -- some of their stances are just too whacked -- but I can see why their membership has certain opinions after reading this.
Perhaps we should not only see the financial rewards of open source being distributed here. Does Slashdot contribute to the EFF or the ACLU (the 2 orgs. that come to mind for combating this bullshit)? If not, should it/we start, even if it means creating a new legal defense fund?
Or maybe we should just take it one step further, and create a cousin to the NRA, say, the National Computing Association..
Just some thoughts, along with this one: No sufficient opposition has ever succeeded without organization.
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