Re:slashdot vs alterslash.org
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Hemos, buy a clue. Your argument is paper-thin; others have rightly pointed out that it is NOT your responsibility to police the copyright of each comment (indeed you'd need to hire an extra, oh, 100 people if that were so). You are NOT liable, and the idea that someone is going to file suit against Slashdot because their comment posted here also appears on a minimal, crap-free digest site, is patently ridiculous. Methinks you drank a bit too much this afternoon.
The subtext of what you are saying is that Slashdot has exclusive rights to the display of comments posted here. That too is absurd, and if you really believe it, don't mince words. State it plainly. And save your dubious legal expertise for the stories - someone who confuses trademark and copyright should hardly assume themselves to be an expert on the subject.
I suspect that a few years ago you and Taco would have considered alterslash to be a cool hack with the added bonus of relieving a tiny fraction of your bandwidth. Toss around ridiculous hypotheticals all you want - the reason you are so aggravated by a site like alterslash these days has nothing to do with copyright, and everything to do with your desire to have a monopoly on the content which all of US essentially donate to your site, making it what it is. Oh, I know, you and Taco don't give a damn about comments because they're an insignificant blip on the radar going by the numbers blah blah.. but take away the interesting discussion which the -posters- provide, and how many people do you really think would be coming here just to read your brilliant article content?
Somewhat disturbing is the fact that MusicCity didn't even bother to contact the Gnucleus developers about this in advance. They just picked up the code, rebranded it, end of story. No credit beyond the "incorporates Gnucleus technology" in the About dialog. No source code as of yet, and frankly if it is released it will be an embarassement because all you will see if you diff it with the original code is a bunch of advertising crap thrown in, and s/Gnucleus/Morpheus
MC's 'programmers' are of rather dubious merit. The original Morpheus took little or no programming effort on MC's part - they took the same FastTrack skeleton client that the others use and 'skinned' it. The only programming involved here was making the ad window and startup window point to MC's servers. That's it. The rest was all FT's work.
And now, what is it their 'programmers' were 'working hard' to accomplish over the past few weeks? Take a GPL gnutella client and rebrand it.
Wow. All that MusicCity is going to bring to the gnutella network is alot more traffic. I wouldn't expect 'programmers' who only know how to toss in ads and logos to help improve gnutellanet itself, or come up with original ideas about how to use the current infrastructure more effectively.
It's great that MusicCity doesn't use spyware as a revenue stream like the Kazaa/Grokster slimeballs (Kazaa allows you to deselect about five different 'value-added' components on installation, but then goes ahead and silently installs cydoor anyhow. It also offers a nice Bonzi Buddy button in the client itself.. I don't know how much more polluted and ugly a p2p client could get).. but that's about the only good thing you can say about them.
That's hardly the only place where Mr. Raymond has been making an ass of himself these days. He apparently spends more time stirring up flamewars on lkml than he does actually coding his magical kernel configuration machine. He has a tendency to make it sound like his pet project is the most important thing to happen to linux since TCP/IP; the huge threads he spawns would be amusing if he wasn't wasting the time and inciting the anger of the people who actually work on the kernel itself.
Re:Something that isn't pointed out enough
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SuSE 7.3 vs XP
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I completely agree. But I must say, XP is a surprisingly good OS, and it's very stable - until you install the beta-quality drivers that many hardware vendors are currently providing. People shouldn't be so quick to jump on MS for the bluescreens; more often than not they can be traced down to hardware drivers behaving in brain-damaged ways.
But yeah, XP is a memory hog. I have 256 megs of RAM, and while XP is quite usable, I still run into plenty of swapping and stalling when doing serious multitasking. Actually truth be told I'm glad that even when XP slows to a crawl for awhile, it almost always recovers eventually, unlike 9x which would start leaking resources like a sieve before reporting "My MM subsystem is a horribly broken PoS" and exploding. I'm considering jumping up to 512 or even a gig of RAM on my XP box.. because while I do agree that XP demands obscene amounts of RAM relative to Linux, I suspect that if it is provided with that RAM, it would run very nicely. And frankly while I use Linux
for firewalling, ip forwarding, and programming, I can't use it to get serious audio work done. Robust modular dsp frameworks (cough cough DX, VST cough) and good tools that take advantage of them just aren't there.
LOL... when you see +5 insightful on a post like that, you really need a sense of humor on/.
Personally I'll start worrying once your own drivel gets modded Insightful. The 'Aussie' you're replying to makes a very interesting point; you reply with reactionary bluster and zero argument - how dare ein auslander accurately comment on the pathetic shape that democracy and civil liberties are in under the New Roman Empire. Another myopic, self-obsessed American blowing smoke out his ass... you guys are a dime a dozen.
You did. Twice in this thread have you compared software piracy with assaulting and robbing others physically, making the world a shittier place blah blah blah. Which has sweet fuck all to do with software piracy.
This is a troll? Must be some noxious glue you mods are huffing tonight...
Let's face it.. AOL is not going to conjur up the wet dream scenario so many of you are hoping for, whereby Linux gets some massive corporate weight behind it and becomes a serious desktop contender. Not gonna happen. AOL wants Red Hat merely for leverage, as another pawn to play against Microsoft. There is no chance whatsoever that they would take an "AOLinux OS" anywhere beyond the conceptual stage - and they would only take it that far to play mind games with Microsoft and try to get them to yield in domains where they have recently been trying to stamp AOL's influence out.
Yes, they would kill Red Hat, just as they have undeniably killed Netscape.
Except that I don't have to brutalize anybody to get the latest Photoshop ISO. Such weak metaphors make you appear alot less insightful than you imagine yourself to be.
Hi there. I'm CmdrTaco, one of the ruling despots here at slashdot. Earlier today I realized that I've been deeply troubled by recent events here on slashdot, more troubled than I've been willing to admit to myself. The plebs here have been making alot of noise in the last 24 hours, ever since this thread arose on the "Oracle Breakable After All"
story. My attitude was the usual "fuck them all", and I thought the matter undeserving of even a moment of my time. But then a strange thing happened; I was stricken by impotence. I beat and I beat and I beat, and yet even with the aid of the very finest tentacle-rape anime divx selections available, I found myself unable to climax. Even having Hemos choke me with his belt till my face turned blue failed to do the trick. Clearly, something was terribly wrong.
And so, I went soul-searching. I thought back on the other night and the bitchslapping rampage I went on in that thread. I thought of some of the very low UIDs whom I'd smacked down, I thought about the many user moderations that me and the other editors had unjustly overturned with our unlimited mod points. I considered the outcry, the suggestions that we were ignoring the will of our own community, that we were evading a subject that desperately needs discussing, that we were acting autocratically and making hypocrites of ourselves. All these things I pondered, and I pondered long and hard. And this is what I have to say:
Go away.
When me and Hemos began this site so long ago now, we were starry-eyed
small-town lovers; young, naive, and drunk on the possibility that a real revolution of sorts might be on the horizon, and that it might involve small furry animals. And so we opened up our labour of love to the world, never suspecting that it would become even half of what it has become today. Things were good, for a time.
But things change. None of you could ever understand just what it feels like, and what it does to a man, to have such a large userbase grow up under your shoddy perl scripts. Unless it happens to you firsthand, you can never truly know. They say that power corrupts, and I am here to tell you that it is true. Once, I cared. I really did. But you people... you went from being individuals, from people I could care about and chat with on #slashdot, to becoming a giant formless mass.. a formless mass seperated into factions; an army of idiots filling my inbox with crap and my RAID array with drivel. Every thread now, I'm lucky if I can find a single comment that doesn't appear to be stamped down by a dim-witted cookie-cutter of a mind. Endless parrotting, pompous bullshit, and people so one-dimensional that it is frightening. I have a secret for you: I too believe that the absurdist noise and distraction of the 'trolls' is the most worthwhile part of slashdot these days. I don't care about anything anymore, save bukkake vids and the occasional good troll.
So then, why do me and my editors censor with an iron fist? Why do we stamp every bit of humour and joy left in this place out and try to make it more and more soullessly grey with each passing day? Because I don't want to have a dialogue with you fucking plebs about the deterioration of this site, I don't want to save it; I want this failed experiment to implode upon the weight of its users' own hypocrisy and hyperbole.
You say this site should be a microcosm for the free and open society of the future? Don't you see that it already is? And you wonder why it stinks of shit...
It will continue as it has. The majority of you will come regardless of what we do. I could piss on your mothers and assfuck your fathers and you'd still come to stroke your egos and share your reactionary politics with the world and to waste countless more hours of your miserable days away. The arms-race will continue. You think a bit of mass -1 Offtopics is bad? Brotha you ain't seen nothin yet. The editors will continue to be my hand-picked squad of the biggest fucking assholes I can manage to dredge up. We will continue to ignore your whinging about censorship, indeed we will ramp it up, because we don't fucking care. There will be countless more stories about the latest lame yuppie toys, the latest minor kernel revision, "look what I found in subsection 123.23.1c of this license!", and all manner of other predictable crap for you to hurl your canned responses at and exercise your dogmas on. Katz will continue to offer you his unique brand of insight until the end of time. And we, as always, could care less what you think or want. Droids and trolls alike; you will all lap it up.
You were expecting some great revelation or commitment to reform to become of this? hohohoho... as if I give a damn about the silly dramas you fools generate out of bit-patterns slapping into my DB. I was troubled, but only because I cloaked my true opinions in silence and continued to play the role of naive otaku-boy and open-source ass-puppet. Because I wasn't being honest with myself or with all of you. Now I can speak the truth, and my soul is unburdened. You may now
go back to wallowing in the shit; I'm off to blow my load in Hemos' pretty pink face.
Slashdot Mirror
Hemos, buy a clue. Your argument is paper-thin; others have rightly pointed out that it is NOT your responsibility to police the copyright of each comment (indeed you'd need to hire an extra, oh, 100 people if that were so). You are NOT liable, and the idea that someone is going to file suit against Slashdot because their comment posted here also appears on a minimal, crap-free digest site, is patently ridiculous. Methinks you drank a bit too much this afternoon.
The subtext of what you are saying is that Slashdot has exclusive rights to the display of comments posted here. That too is absurd, and if you really believe it, don't mince words. State it plainly. And save your dubious legal expertise for the stories - someone who confuses trademark and copyright should hardly assume themselves to be an expert on the subject.
I suspect that a few years ago you and Taco would have considered alterslash to be a cool hack with the added bonus of relieving a tiny fraction of your bandwidth. Toss around ridiculous hypotheticals all you want - the reason you are so aggravated by a site like alterslash these days has nothing to do with copyright, and everything to do with your desire to have a monopoly on the content which all of US essentially donate to your site, making it what it is. Oh, I know, you and Taco don't give a damn about comments because they're an insignificant blip on the radar going by the numbers blah blah.. but take away the interesting discussion which the -posters- provide, and how many people do you really think would be coming here just to read your brilliant article content?
Mod me down, karma be damned.
Somewhat disturbing is the fact that MusicCity didn't even bother to contact the Gnucleus developers about this in advance. They just picked up the code, rebranded it, end of story. No credit beyond the "incorporates Gnucleus technology" in the About dialog. No source code as of yet, and frankly if it is released it will be an embarassement because all you will see if you diff it with the original code is a bunch of advertising crap thrown in, and s/Gnucleus/Morpheus
.. but that's about the only good thing you can say about them.
MC's 'programmers' are of rather dubious merit. The original Morpheus took little or no programming effort on MC's part - they took the same FastTrack skeleton client that the others use and 'skinned' it. The only programming involved here was making the ad window and startup window point to MC's servers. That's it. The rest was all FT's work.
And now, what is it their 'programmers' were 'working hard' to accomplish over the past few weeks? Take a GPL gnutella client and rebrand it. Wow. All that MusicCity is going to bring to the gnutella network is alot more traffic. I wouldn't expect 'programmers' who only know how to toss in ads and logos to help improve gnutellanet itself, or come up with original ideas about how to use the current infrastructure more effectively.
It's great that MusicCity doesn't use spyware as a revenue stream like the Kazaa/Grokster slimeballs (Kazaa allows you to deselect about five different 'value-added' components on installation, but then goes ahead and silently installs cydoor anyhow. It also offers a nice Bonzi Buddy button in the client itself.. I don't know how much more polluted and ugly a p2p client could get)
That's hardly the only place where Mr. Raymond has been making an ass of himself these days. He apparently spends more time stirring up flamewars on lkml than he does actually coding his magical kernel configuration machine. He has a tendency to make it sound like his pet project is the most important thing to happen to linux since TCP/IP; the huge threads he spawns would be amusing if he wasn't wasting the time and inciting the anger of the people who actually work on the kernel itself.
I completely agree. But I must say, XP is a surprisingly good OS, and it's very stable - until you install the beta-quality drivers that many hardware vendors are currently providing. People shouldn't be so quick to jump on MS for the bluescreens; more often than not they can be traced down to hardware drivers behaving in brain-damaged ways.
But yeah, XP is a memory hog. I have 256 megs of RAM, and while XP is quite usable, I still run into plenty of swapping and stalling when doing serious multitasking. Actually truth be told I'm glad that even when XP slows to a crawl for awhile, it almost always recovers eventually, unlike 9x which would start leaking resources like a sieve before reporting "My MM subsystem is a horribly broken PoS" and exploding. I'm considering jumping up to 512 or even a gig of RAM on my XP box.. because while I do agree that XP demands obscene amounts of RAM relative to Linux, I suspect that if it is provided with that RAM, it would run very nicely. And frankly while I use Linux for firewalling, ip forwarding, and programming, I can't use it to get serious audio work done. Robust modular dsp frameworks (cough cough DX, VST cough) and good tools that take advantage of them just aren't there.
Yes, that'd be a laugh riot if the man got imprisoned or executed by the state because of your little joke. Serves a spammer right!
Look at Mikey mod that shit, lightening-quick! I think he's sweet on you.
LOL... when you see +5 insightful on a post like that, you really need a sense of humor on /.
Personally I'll start worrying once your own drivel gets modded Insightful. The 'Aussie' you're replying to makes a very interesting point; you reply with reactionary bluster and zero argument - how dare ein auslander accurately comment on the pathetic shape that democracy and civil liberties are in under the New Roman Empire. Another myopic, self-obsessed American blowing smoke out his ass... you guys are a dime a dozen.
If you love your country.. fix it.
At least they make the effort to learn another language, Mr. Cultural Imperialist.
~Despising those who fight tenaciously to protect everyone's right to be stupid assholes.
Oh the irony.
Thank you for your lucid commentary.
You have to deal with a single file in Java? What are you working on, implementing cat?
You did. Twice in this thread have you compared software piracy with assaulting and robbing others physically, making the world a shittier place blah blah blah. Which has sweet fuck all to do with software piracy.
This is a troll? Must be some noxious glue you mods are huffing tonight...
Let's face it.. AOL is not going to conjur up the wet dream scenario so many of you are hoping for, whereby Linux gets some massive corporate weight behind it and becomes a serious desktop contender. Not gonna happen. AOL wants Red Hat merely for leverage, as another pawn to play against Microsoft. There is no chance whatsoever that they would take an "AOLinux OS" anywhere beyond the conceptual stage - and they would only take it that far to play mind games with Microsoft and try to get them to yield in domains where they have recently been trying to stamp AOL's influence out.
Yes, they would kill Red Hat, just as they have undeniably killed Netscape.
Except that I don't have to brutalize anybody to get the latest Photoshop ISO. Such weak metaphors make you appear alot less insightful than you imagine yourself to be.
Hi there. I'm CmdrTaco, one of the ruling despots here at slashdot. Earlier today I realized that I've been deeply troubled by recent events here on slashdot, more troubled than I've been willing to admit to myself. The plebs here have been making alot of noise in the last 24 hours, ever since this thread arose on the "Oracle Breakable After All" story. My attitude was the usual "fuck them all", and I thought the matter undeserving of even a moment of my time. But then a strange thing happened; I was stricken by impotence. I beat and I beat and I beat, and yet even with the aid of the very finest tentacle-rape anime divx selections available, I found myself unable to climax. Even having Hemos choke me with his belt till my face turned blue failed to do the trick. Clearly, something was terribly wrong.
And so, I went soul-searching. I thought back on the other night and the bitchslapping rampage I went on in that thread. I thought of some of the very low UIDs whom I'd smacked down, I thought about the many user moderations that me and the other editors had unjustly overturned with our unlimited mod points. I considered the outcry, the suggestions that we were ignoring the will of our own community, that we were evading a subject that desperately needs discussing, that we were acting autocratically and making hypocrites of ourselves. All these things I pondered, and I pondered long and hard. And this is what I have to say:
Go away.
When me and Hemos began this site so long ago now, we were starry-eyed small-town lovers; young, naive, and drunk on the possibility that a real revolution of sorts might be on the horizon, and that it might involve small furry animals. And so we opened up our labour of love to the world, never suspecting that it would become even half of what it has become today. Things were good, for a time.
But things change. None of you could ever understand just what it feels like, and what it does to a man, to have such a large userbase grow up under your shoddy perl scripts. Unless it happens to you firsthand, you can never truly know. They say that power corrupts, and I am here to tell you that it is true. Once, I cared. I really did. But you people... you went from being individuals, from people I could care about and chat with on #slashdot, to becoming a giant formless mass.. a formless mass seperated into factions; an army of idiots filling my inbox with crap and my RAID array with drivel. Every thread now, I'm lucky if I can find a single comment that doesn't appear to be stamped down by a dim-witted cookie-cutter of a mind. Endless parrotting, pompous bullshit, and people so one-dimensional that it is frightening. I have a secret for you: I too believe that the absurdist noise and distraction of the 'trolls' is the most worthwhile part of slashdot these days. I don't care about anything anymore, save bukkake vids and the occasional good troll.
So then, why do me and my editors censor with an iron fist? Why do we stamp every bit of humour and joy left in this place out and try to make it more and more soullessly grey with each passing day? Because I don't want to have a dialogue with you fucking plebs about the deterioration of this site, I don't want to save it; I want this failed experiment to implode upon the weight of its users' own hypocrisy and hyperbole. You say this site should be a microcosm for the free and open society of the future? Don't you see that it already is? And you wonder why it stinks of shit...
It will continue as it has. The majority of you will come regardless of what we do. I could piss on your mothers and assfuck your fathers and you'd still come to stroke your egos and share your reactionary politics with the world and to waste countless more hours of your miserable days away. The arms-race will continue. You think a bit of mass -1 Offtopics is bad? Brotha you ain't seen nothin yet. The editors will continue to be my hand-picked squad of the biggest fucking assholes I can manage to dredge up. We will continue to ignore your whinging about censorship, indeed we will ramp it up, because we don't fucking care. There will be countless more stories about the latest lame yuppie toys, the latest minor kernel revision, "look what I found in subsection 123.23.1c of this license!", and all manner of other predictable crap for you to hurl your canned responses at and exercise your dogmas on. Katz will continue to offer you his unique brand of insight until the end of time. And we, as always, could care less what you think or want. Droids and trolls alike; you will all lap it up.
You were expecting some great revelation or commitment to reform to become of this? hohohoho... as if I give a damn about the silly dramas you fools generate out of bit-patterns slapping into my DB. I was troubled, but only because I cloaked my true opinions in silence and continued to play the role of naive otaku-boy and open-source ass-puppet. Because I wasn't being honest with myself or with all of you. Now I can speak the truth, and my soul is unburdened. You may now go back to wallowing in the shit; I'm off to blow my load in Hemos' pretty pink face.
Remember this: we are only a mirror.
Thank you.