last time I checked, Cygwin didn't work well on Windows 98
I call FUD.
Last time I checked, bug reports filed on/. were directed to/dev/null. Cygwin works well, on all *released* versions of Windows; if it does not work
for you, please file a bug report instead of spreading FUD.
Of course, the problem here is the choice between a consistent
and predictable distribution, and a consistent
experience between different distributions.
It is easy, and sometimes required by policy, to fix
the distribution, and that's what most do. It is
not easy, and often not possible, to fix
upstream.
I almost agree with your:
Leave where things go ALONE!
but I would like to rephrase it: *any* fix you make
must be (pushed) upstream first.
Well, that depends on your philosophy. Choose from Information is power (Thou shalt never ever entrust any important data to proprietary formats) or Ignorance is bliss (I clicked the Windows music icon, but it did not work).
N-series PCs will cost the same as PCs that ship with Windows, a Dell representative said.
But who gets the money that is saved by not shipping Windows? Is any money saved at all? Previous incarnations of this
sort of deal had the manufacturer pay Microsoft
for a Windows license anyway.
I think it's a big deal whether you are sponsoring DELL for taking on Microsoft, or are actually making some sort of implicit mandatory donation to Microsoft, just to be spared from
the horrors of running Windows.
As a result of all this, I don't consider Linux suitable as a user environment.
yet!
Even you, the experienced os professional are
making this vital mistake. Don't do that again! It may well not be suitable
(for you) yet.
But it will be sooner, if you help.
Too bad you don't want to 'babysit' our baby,
from time to time. I'm sure she would learn
a lot of good things from you (assuming you
are who you say you are).
Let's see, no time to download and look at the
slashcrap code. Hmm. Removing punctuation
and small keypad. Would percentage of junk characters count too? Maybe I will try to
inserst some random text here, and hope that
someone will fix this stuupit lameness filter.
Maybe lowercasing the layout helps?
Ugh. Ok, so here is the maltron layout in ascii art, that I'm not allowed to paste here on/.
It is supposed to be targetting Western European
languages, as opposed to focussing at English only. It also has easy access to characters that is handy for writing code.
In addition, it's a bit split and shaped very well (picture), it has a concave layout to keys easier to
reach (as supposed to some kind of 'natural' keyboards that are convex, which is actually worse than flat).
A language which lets you define a piece of music by defining what note to play at what time with what instrument, but also what sample to play where, and where what lyrics go.
So you didn't even have a look?
This is actually what LilyPond does, except
for the sample to play part.
Audio output is currently basic MIDI, mainly because the core
LilyPond hackers are more interested in notation.
The Linux boxes that Dell Europe sells cost about $70 more than the same box with Microsoft Windows 2000. As that's about the price of the Red Hat Linux Dell installs, this suggests that you're paying for the Windows license anyway, and then extra for Red Hat.
When I asked Dell Europe about this, they said my observation was incorrect, they claimed the difficult production process of installing Linux warrants this extra cost. Installing Linux in the US is much easier than it is in Europe, and the market in the US is bigger, hence the extra cost here. Also, while it's possible to buy a system with Linux as it's advertised on the website, they can't give any guarantee or indication how long the delivery process will take, or how easy it will be because of drivers etc. That's no big surprise, in Europe all systems Dell sells (advertises?) have nVidea graphics cards...
Anyway, I got the advise to buy a Windows 2000 system, because that's cheaper and quicker.
Just about the only vision that has come anywhere close to coming into being is the idea of a PC in [nearly] every home.
But hardly an unimportant vision. Had they
not done everything in their power to enforce
the microsoft tax on every pc, watching their
downfall would probably not be as entertaining.
Hmm, that sounds handy, I'll try it right away.
Hint:
18:52:38 appel ~$ gnuclient
bash: gnuclient: command not found
18:52:40 appel ~$ apt-cache search gnuclient
18:52:46 appel ~$ emacsclient foe
Waiting for Emacs...^C
18:52:50 appel ~$ zgrep gnuclient/root/Contents-powerpc.gz
usr/bin/gnuclient editors/gnuserv
18:52:58 appel ~$ su -c 'apt-get install gnuserv'
This looks fine: why didn't you tell me before? It seems that I won't need vi
for quick stuff anymore! Too bad that (server-start) and (gnuserv-start) bite eachother,
we'll probably have to patch gnuclient also to enjoy our 31337
Point 'n Click.
GNU/Linux was created by hackers, for hackers, mainly. So if you're a hacker, you're bound to like almost anything you encounter. The documentation doesn't assume you're (computer) ignorant. There is source code if you need more detailed, more accurate, or guaranteed up to date documentation. You'll find a GNU/Linux system to be deterministic, much unlike other systems where every other try may produce a different result.
More so, if something seems broken, you find out what it is, and you can fix it once and for all, whatever it may be: you have the source code to everything. What developer would want to use a platform that restricts her freedom to do this? For more information see GNU.
Jan.
PS: What I really don't understand is, if you're a developer, why not simply give Linux a try (or, why haven't you still given it a try, for that matter)?
In A. it is stated that there will be `areas in our archive' (== non-free?):
...that don't conform to the Debian Free Software Guidelines. While we will not distribute such software itself, we have created areas in our archive for packages that help install or otherwise requre this software.
While B. says these areas will be removed:
That the non-free areas be removed from current Debian archives,...
Are these `new areas' to contain only helper-stuff and not the non-free software itself, is that it? Any examples of such `stuff'?
Ok, I'm no bootloader guru either, but on my x86 laptop I've been using GRUB for quite a while (to multiboot into Linux or HURD).
It's still a bit hairy to install, but I beats me why anyone is still using Lilo. With grub, you get an editable list of boot images. If you messed up, the only thing you need is figure-out where a kernel is, and you've got tab-completion to find it. No messing around with boot floppies.
So, can anyone tell me why she's using Lilo for her distribution?
Guess I asked for it, when I decided against using buying hardware (+bundled software package from IBM), but I'd greatly appreciate it if people would not assume Linux == ix86.
My GNU/Linux box is a PowerPC (ppc), and it runs Linux as well as glibc2.1, but why do I think `Package Foo for Linux' won't run over here?
It may be quite a while until the ignorant lot get this, but we could do with a bit more enlightened view from/.
Ok, sorry. I was a bit harsh. But I really feel this was not a really helpful comment; I'm tempted to say it was a rather ignorant comment. Also, I tried to explain why RobGrant was in error. One of the biggest problems with MIDI->notation already starts with the pitch (enharmonic exchanges) and duration.
In a few, exceptional cases, it might be that you can't tell the difference between a quarter an a sixteenth note with rests. But in *most* cases there is a difference. (As a viola player, I can assure you that there is a difference between a whole note pizzicato, and a quarter note.) So why draw focus to the exeptional case where the generally expected possibility MIDI->notation would maybe not be problematic?
Also, you shot yourself in the foot, or at least prove that you've missed the point, when you say:
...might need to be translated from it's standard representation to something shorter, in order to make your midi sound right.
We were discussing the problems of MIDI->notation: `MIDI doesn't contain the information you need', and here you even introduce a new fictional one! For the case when you wouldn't have pizzicato strings (when would that be?), you suggest to introduce yet another inaccuracy to MIDI.
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I wonder, how does one observe the subtle difference between these?
Pulling the plug on bk is probably just
;-), darcs, monotone!
the thing free SCM development was waiting for.
Now you go arch, bazaar-ng, cvs
Last time I checked, bug reports filed on /. were directed to /dev/null. Cygwin works well, on all *released* versions of Windows; if it does not work
for you, please file a bug report instead of spreading FUD.
It is easy, and sometimes required by policy, to fix the distribution, and that's what most do. It is not easy, and often not possible, to fix upstream. I almost agree with your:
but I would like to rephrase it: *any* fix you make must be (pushed) upstream first.
But who gets the money that is saved by not shipping Windows? Is any money saved at all? Previous incarnations of this sort of deal had the manufacturer pay Microsoft for a Windows license anyway.
I think it's a big deal whether you are sponsoring DELL for taking on Microsoft, or are actually making some sort of implicit mandatory donation to Microsoft, just to be spared from the horrors of running Windows.
Even you, the experienced os professional are making this vital mistake. Don't do that again! It may well not be suitable (for you) yet.
But it will be sooner, if you help.
Too bad you don't want to 'babysit' our baby, from time to time. I'm sure she would learn a lot of good things from you (assuming you are who you say you are).
Audio output is currently basic MIDI, mainly because the core LilyPond hackers are more interested in notation.
The Linux boxes that Dell Europe sells cost about $70 more than the
same box with Microsoft Windows 2000. As that's about the price of
the Red Hat Linux Dell installs, this suggests that you're paying for
the Windows license anyway, and then extra for Red Hat.
When I asked Dell Europe about this, they said my observation was
incorrect, they claimed the difficult production process of installing
Linux warrants this extra cost. Installing Linux in the US is much
easier than it is in Europe, and the market in the US is bigger, hence
the extra cost here. Also, while it's possible to buy a system with
Linux as it's advertised on the website, they can't give any guarantee
or indication how long the delivery process will take, or how easy it
will be because of drivers etc. That's no big surprise, in Europe all
systems Dell sells (advertises?) have nVidea graphics cards...
Anyway, I got the advise to buy a Windows 2000 system, because that's
cheaper and quicker.
Dismissing something on a belief-me basis qualifies as FUD in my book.
And how should spreading FUD be of any help? Btw, what (once in a while) version of LilyPond did you use?Wired is just trolling. They s/could have awarded ``most overrun schedule'' awards.
Sure, Windows is a fine OS if you are using MS' definition. Bush won the elections, if you don't count the votes. Oh, wait...
Why didn't you try before, or why didn't it convince her before?
If I run your script, I get roughly your results, but if I run:
I get
about what netcraft reports.
Jan
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Jan Nieuwenhuizen | GNU LilyPond - The music typesetter
www.xs4all.nl/~jantien | www.lilypond.org
More so, if something seems broken, you find out what it is, and you can fix it once and for all, whatever it may be: you have the source code to everything. What developer would want to use a platform that restricts her freedom to do this? For more information see GNU.
Jan.
PS: What I really don't understand is, if you're a developer, why not simply give Linux a try (or, why haven't you still given it a try, for that matter)?
In A. it is stated that there will be `areas in our archive' (== non-free?):
While B. says these areas will be removed:
Are these `new areas' to contain only helper-stuff and not the non-free software itself, is that it? Any examples of such `stuff'?
Jan
It's still a bit hairy to install, but I beats me why anyone is still using Lilo. With grub, you get an editable list of boot images. If you messed up, the only thing you need is figure-out where a kernel is, and you've got tab-completion to find it. No messing around with boot floppies.
So, can anyone tell me why she's using Lilo for her distribution?
Jan
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Jan Nieuwenhuizen | GNU LilyPond - The music typesetter
www.xs4all.nl/~jantien | www.lilypond.org
My GNU/Linux box is a PowerPC (ppc), and it runs Linux as well as glibc2.1, but why do I think `Package Foo for Linux' won't run over here?
It may be quite a while until the ignorant lot get this, but we could do with a bit more enlightened view from /.
Jan
--
Jan Nieuwenhuizen | GNU LilyPond - The music typesetter
www.xs4all.nl/~jantien | www.lilypond.org
In a few, exceptional cases, it might be that you can't tell the difference between a quarter an a sixteenth note with rests. But in *most* cases there is a difference. (As a viola player, I can assure you that there is a difference between a whole note pizzicato, and a quarter note.) So why draw focus to the exeptional case where the generally expected possibility MIDI->notation would maybe not be problematic?
Also, you shot yourself in the foot, or at least prove that you've missed the point, when you say:
We were discussing the problems of MIDI->notation: `MIDI doesn't contain the information you need', and here you even introduce a new fictional one! For the case when you wouldn't have pizzicato strings (when would that be?), you suggest to introduce yet another inaccuracy to MIDI.Moderators, what am I missing here?
Jan
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Jan Nieuwenhuizen | GNU LilyPond - The music typesetter
www.xs4all.nl/~jantien | www.lilypond.org