Knowing the reputation of various UK administrations, it will be put to use to spy on people and fine them for small misdemeanors.
That's absolutely certain. How could anyone trust any council that uses anti-terrorism laws to monitor things that are between minor civil crimes and nothing at all?
Do yourself a favor and buy a ruggedized outdoor phone. They last forever, have long battery life and unlike most smartphones are actually usable for making phone calls.
What model do you suggest?
I love my smartphone because it can do almost anything but I'll admit that a low end Nokia dumb phone is actually better for making and receiving phone calls.
So open another account, drop say $200 into it and use that card.
Banks like to tell people that you can't get overdrawn by spending too much on a debt card because it will refuse payments that you can't cover. The banksters get too much out of unauthorized overdraft fees for that to be true.
Your plan would only work if you never went into debt on the $200 account.
If I, a cash customer, can stop paying your fees, I'll happily shop at the retailer you boycott.
I wholeheartedly agree. Putting the cost on the card users is the right way.
Oh, really? Perhaps you guys are conveniently forgetting how you keep one of the nations biggest crimes intact: armed robberies. Without cash paying customers, stores would not need to have cash at hand. No cash means no risk for armed robberies. Which means less cost for insurances etc, etc, etc.
Debt cards don't have the same fees as credit cards. They should also have the 'cash' discount with the added advantage that the retailer doesn't have to handle the actual cash.
Developers are the best sysadmins you can have, since they're actually somewhat competent. It's just that they've got better things to do and are paid more.
Developers are normally careless sysadmins. Sysadmins are usually inept programmers. Someone that really can do both well is a great asset.
Good sysadmins get paid about the same as good developers. At least that's my experience.
No. This is actually completely absurd. A developer that cannot grasp the concept that private keys have to be kept private, cannot be trusted to do anything but screw up the most basic security provisions when writing code.
They grasp the concept just fine. It isn't that they don't understand, it's that they don't see it as their problem.
With unemployment so high in the US as it is....they'd better sign off that EVERY US citizen potential employee is hired first....then start letting outsiders in.
That's just silly. You are saying you would not import one single programmer until every single American who has no aptitude at programming has a programming job.
He forgot to mention it should also be cheaper, maybe $50 or $100 unsubsidized.
Is that sarcasm? Do you seriously believe that company that is up against it should just give up and die? Because I don't. It doesn't look good for Nokia but they are not dead yet. As unlikely as it is they could still come up with something cool that would dig them out of the hole they are in.
Apple came up with the iphone without any prior phone knowledge. Nokia has lots and could still do good things if only it started moving in the right direction.
I'm suggesting they try to make something that people will like. The R&D budget is the last thing they should cut when they need a cool new product to sell.
If they try they may fail. If they don't try they will fail. You appear to be suggesting that they should just curl up in a corner and die quietly.
The n900 running maemo has SIP built in, no extra client needed. Skype too. You can pick a phone number and be given a choice of using the mobile network, skype out, or SIP.
Plus skype video calls work without any extra software.
I have never got SIP to work over 3G data though. I assumed the phone networks blocked this to protect their profits.
Android loses money for everyone except Samsung. Anyway you go, Nokia was fucked.
Anyway, these threads are always funny with the clueless Symbian fanboys and the usual M$ hater-extremes circle-jerking each other.
How about Nokia stop trying to implode and build a better phone instead? Take the n900, make it thiner and lighter, with longer battery life, a faster processor, and a better screen. Upgrade the camera too but keep the nice keyboard. How about they offer that phone with a choice of Windows or Maemo?
I'd stay clear of Windows phones personally but it should be possible to build hardware that all OS's can run on, unless the terms of the MS suicide pill forbid using anything else that is.
Hey! I never said Sony would die of embarrassment or that this fine would cause them massive additional loss of face.
I only said the damage done by the bad press must be greater than the rather small fine. A few people would have noticed, a few people who might otherwise buy Sony products might just go buy something else.
That's just bizarre. Regulatory agencies don't want to run companies, they want the companies to run themselves in a responsible way. They are not in the investing game and should never be put in a position where they have an incentive to favor one company over another.
Cash should be used for fines, ideally that cash should not go to the organization that imposed the fine.
So many of these security stories sound like they had a co-op student do it in an afternoon with no consideration for anything other than getting it done quickly.
From what I've seen most companies get a qualified, experienced, and smart person who really wants to do a great job to secure these things. Then they demand it's done in a week. Then they demand that for each day in that week that person must attend 6 hours of meetings. Then they make it very clear that security must never affect functionality.
Not that I'm saying it's just security people that get squeezed into doing a bad job when they really want to do a good one. It happens a lot.
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Knowing the reputation of various UK administrations, it will be put to use to spy on people and fine them for small misdemeanors.
That's absolutely certain. How could anyone trust any council that uses anti-terrorism laws to monitor things that are between minor civil crimes and nothing at all?
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2012/08/21/local-councils-abusing-anti-terrorism-powers_n_1819715.html
http://casualsunited.wordpress.com/2012/08/22/councils-abusing-their-power-and-using-anti-terror-laws-to-harass-the-public-edl-abuseofpower/
They still believe electric lights are the devils work
They like electric lights, they can rip them off and sell them for smack.
I can't believe a government sponspored array of sensors is going to do anyone any good.
Phone shops want to sell shiny things not practical things.
You can find low end phones that just work in most airports. Business travelers often break their phones and need to buy a new one in a hurry.
Do yourself a favor and buy a ruggedized outdoor phone. They last forever, have long battery life and unlike most smartphones are actually usable for making phone calls.
What model do you suggest?
I love my smartphone because it can do almost anything but I'll admit that a low end Nokia dumb phone is actually better for making and receiving phone calls.
So open another account, drop say $200 into it and use that card.
Banks like to tell people that you can't get overdrawn by spending too much on a debt card because it will refuse payments that you can't cover. The banksters get too much out of unauthorized overdraft fees for that to be true.
Your plan would only work if you never went into debt on the $200 account.
If I, a cash customer, can stop paying your fees, I'll happily shop at the retailer you boycott.
I wholeheartedly agree. Putting the cost on the card users is the right way.
Oh, really? Perhaps you guys are conveniently forgetting how you keep one of the nations biggest crimes intact: armed robberies. Without cash paying customers, stores would not need to have cash at hand. No cash means no risk for armed robberies. Which means less cost for insurances etc, etc, etc.
Debt cards don't have the same fees as credit cards. They should also have the 'cash' discount with the added advantage that the retailer doesn't have to handle the actual cash.
I wouldn't think twice about having the clerk go, "there's a surcharge for credit", to which I'd respond, "OK, thanks anyway." and leave.
What if he goes "There is a discount for cash or debt cards"?
I'm pretty sure that Linux Distros' Package Management Systems are the best "App Stores" for FOSS developers, or is that just me?
You are right. I'd add Gentoo's portage and FreeBSD's ports to the list too.
..Have the Best App Store For Open Source Developers?
No, due to Betteridge's law of headlines.
Developers are the best sysadmins you can have, since they're actually somewhat competent.
It's just that they've got better things to do and are paid more.
Developers are normally careless sysadmins. Sysadmins are usually inept programmers. Someone that really can do both well is a great asset.
Good sysadmins get paid about the same as good developers. At least that's my experience.
No. This is actually completely absurd. A developer that cannot grasp the concept that private keys have to be kept private, cannot be trusted to do anything but screw up the most basic security provisions when writing code.
They grasp the concept just fine. It isn't that they don't understand, it's that they don't see it as their problem.
I have a BS from SUNY in computer science, Cum Laude. graduated 2009, career is stillborn due to my drug felony conviction.
And US companies actually check your criminal record?
Work in a different country or work for yourself.
With unemployment so high in the US as it is....they'd better sign off that EVERY US citizen potential employee is hired first....then start letting outsiders in.
That's just silly. You are saying you would not import one single programmer until every single American who has no aptitude at programming has a programming job.
He forgot to mention it should also be cheaper, maybe $50 or $100 unsubsidized.
Is that sarcasm? Do you seriously believe that company that is up against it should just give up and die? Because I don't. It doesn't look good for Nokia but they are not dead yet. As unlikely as it is they could still come up with something cool that would dig them out of the hole they are in.
Apple came up with the iphone without any prior phone knowledge. Nokia has lots and could still do good things if only it started moving in the right direction.
I'm suggesting they try to make something that people will like. The R&D budget is the last thing they should cut when they need a cool new product to sell.
If they try they may fail. If they don't try they will fail. You appear to be suggesting that they should just curl up in a corner and die quietly.
The n900 running maemo has SIP built in, no extra client needed. Skype too. You can pick a phone number and be given a choice of using the mobile network, skype out, or SIP.
Plus skype video calls work without any extra software.
I have never got SIP to work over 3G data though. I assumed the phone networks blocked this to protect their profits.
Android loses money for everyone except Samsung. Anyway you go, Nokia was fucked.
Anyway, these threads are always funny with the clueless Symbian fanboys and the usual M$ hater-extremes circle-jerking each other.
How about Nokia stop trying to implode and build a better phone instead? Take the n900, make it thiner and lighter, with longer battery life, a faster processor, and a better screen. Upgrade the camera too but keep the nice keyboard. How about they offer that phone with a choice of Windows or Maemo?
I'd stay clear of Windows phones personally but it should be possible to build hardware that all OS's can run on, unless the terms of the MS suicide pill forbid using anything else that is.
I didn't like it when the Symbians kidnapped Patty Hearst, but their phones were OK for a while.
Maybe the Symbionese Liberation Army will reform at this news and go on a round of kidnapping Nokia execs.
Hey! I never said Sony would die of embarrassment or that this fine would cause them massive additional loss of face.
I only said the damage done by the bad press must be greater than the rather small fine. A few people would have noticed, a few people who might otherwise buy Sony products might just go buy something else.
That's just bizarre. Regulatory agencies don't want to run companies, they want the companies to run themselves in a responsible way. They are not in the investing game and should never be put in a position where they have an incentive to favor one company over another.
Cash should be used for fines, ideally that cash should not go to the organization that imposed the fine.
So many of these security stories sound like they had a co-op student do it in an afternoon with no consideration for anything other than getting it done quickly.
From what I've seen most companies get a qualified, experienced, and smart person who really wants to do a great job to secure these things. Then they demand it's done in a week. Then they demand that for each day in that week that person must attend 6 hours of meetings. Then they make it very clear that security must never affect functionality.
Not that I'm saying it's just security people that get squeezed into doing a bad job when they really want to do a good one. It happens a lot.
The money might mean nothing to Sony but the embarrassment must.
But if your point is that it's silly to fine a massive company so little then I totally agree.
To answer my own question the company is rum & co. http://www.rumundco.de/
> sheeple
I'm so tired of this word....
I too wish we lived in a world that didn't need that word. Sadly we don't.
the eBay/PayPal behemoth of faceless people in gray suits?
Just as a side note - having visited the eBay PayPal campus, it's actually a very colorful location full of cheerful people.
You might be cheerful too if you figured out how to steal money legally.