...at 3 times the cost of buying the same spec from any other supplier. Apple hardware doesn't make sense without the apple software that comes with it.
The first "rivals" hotlink didn't even mention Apple. And the "downshift" link mentioned only the iPad. But I'm guessing, Apple might get a bigger piece of the pie too.
Apple have limited themselves to selling hardware that runs their software. When they start making servers and pc's that natively run linux and windows then they can have a bigger piece of the pie.
That is really sad, I was eager to get a ProBook. Business grade hardware from HP was almost always really good, I'm sad to see it go.
HP make great high end workstations and great servers. Their laptops are not so good. The build quality on any probook I've seen are not up to lenovo's standards although I'll admit HP laptops look prettier.
The events started as a peaceful protest that was ignored then they escalated with the destruction of 2 police cars. The police shot someone dead and made it look like an execution. This was after they killed 2 other innocent people. Protests were entirely justified but looting wasn't.
The thing is peacueful protests are ignored, the government don't even acknowledge them. So what's left for the people who are really angry about police and government abuses? Some form of civil disabedience is the only option and when that happens looters and bad types turn on.
It's hardly the same thing. India has multiple issues that don't exist in the US or Australia.
Just so it's clear I'm talking about corruption, bribes, poor infrastructure, theft, and the additional costs of selling something that only appeals to a tiny percentage of the population.
Refuse sale and seize all their products under government jurisdiction until they answer. I'm sure that would get their attention.
That might work under a fascist state or even a communist one but last I heard Australia was still capitalist and AFAIK Apple hasn't actually broke any laws doing this.
Certainly not TFA. My beef is with the iTunes store - to buy an album here costs AU$17.00 (US$17.63), a huge hike over the $10 price the US enjoys.
If I wanted an iPad, I could always import one from the US, but I can't buy an album from the US iTunes store; they refuse to sell it to me, which is a restriction of trade under Australian law, and something the ACCC has ruled is illegal, at least when applied to physical music media like CDs.
Can't you just proxy your connections though the US?
Virtual servers are cheap or you can buy VPN service.
For those wondering how he got caught, he accessed the servers from his home also for the McDonalds just before he accessed them he purchased some food using this credit card.
Indeed. Employers can be total asses but what Jason Cornish did was illegal and was going to lead back to him. How did he think he was going to get away with that?
Or get really hippie about it, take all the weed out of your evidence rooms, pile it up wind from any rioters. Light it and put giant fans to blowing the smoke from it their way. Note: Stay out of the smoke.
You really think the police take confiscated weed to an evidence room?
Maybe they do for huge amounts but they don't give out receipts when they take small amounts, they just take it and it magically disappears.
This is costing a fortune causing tax raises and lowering spending on important things. It's only making money for big businesses not the suckers who foot the bill. It's causing disruption to people who actually try working for a living. All the Londoners who were promised tickets are now told they have to buy them for more than any normal person can afford. Even those who can afford to buy them have to go though some weird lotto random-allocation thing because big business gets its share first.
The whole thing is robbing the UK taxpayers to pay big business and pander to the egos of a few irresponsible politicians.
And yes, the security clampdown is going to be terrible.
The kind of things that get classed as 'violent crimes' are unlikely to be the same between the US and the UK. I don't know about the US but the UK has many classes of physical assault starting from common assault which is simply touching someone without their permission. I believe you have to be rich or a top politician to actually get the police to take common assault seriously though.
You do realize that means rioters would be armed too, right?
So instead of throwing rocks and burning cars, London could be the setting for a Wild West shootout. What an improvement!
There are already plenty of illegal guns in Tottenham, the place where the first riot happened. The rioters didn't bring them because they knew that anyone with a gun gets shot by the police nearly without warning or question. They wanted to protest and/or steal things not perform mass murder.
Well the police and citizens should be armed. Things wouldn't have gotten anywhere near as out of hand if both officers and law abiding citizens under duress were able and ready to permanently end a rioters looting spree.
It was a police shooting that triggered the riots. It's unclear if arming more people would have prevented that from happening or just resulted in more violent protests.
By all means freak out when there's a law being proposed - exercise your considerable civil liberties to their utmost - but at this point, with the information and contect, it's unwarranted.
You have far too much faith in a system that has become bent beyond reason. The UK has been on a steady decline to a police state since the criminal justice and public order act of 1994 removed the right to remain silent. Assuming you are in the US that's like removing the fifth amendment, which BTW was based on protections from the UK Magna Carta of 1215.
If enacted, those provisions would be used against dissenters just like the Terrorism Act is now.
If only they did just use these anti-terror powers against dissenters. So far they have used them against everyone and everything including the entire country of Iceland!
There is a partial list of the people and things declared terrorist at united-kingdom-plc.com
You know you are succeeding in fascism if China praises You. The Standard & Poors of Fascism.
You know you are succeeding in fascism when China tells you that you are going to far. Give it a few more years and the UK will be condemned as a fascist police state by China and there will be queues of UK nationals a thousand long outside the Chinese embassy all begging for visas.
And I do know what I am talking about, thank you. I will not return the insult.
If that were true you would have better things to do than rant on slashdot. I do have better things to do than reply to your mashup of half truths and proof by flood-of-words.
Ranting on slashdot doesn't pay my bills. I suspect it does pay yours.
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HP makes very good servers and high end PCs. So where am I meant to buy good servers from now? They spin this off the quality will nose-dive.
Acer make junk, Dell servers lack HP's quality and the hardware changes every 5 minutes, Lenovo don't make servers at all.
Seems I'm wrong about Lenovo, they do actually make servers. Their top end is very much lower spec than HPs current top end though.
The first "rivals" hotlink didn't even mention Apple. And the "downshift" link mentioned only the iPad. But I'm guessing, Apple might get a bigger piece of the pie too.
Apple have limited themselves to selling hardware that runs their software. When they start making servers and pc's that natively run linux and windows then they can have a bigger piece of the pie.
I guess that is where the market is headed now. And there will be no need for systems integrators.
Why? It's not their core business. There is a world of difference at being good at making chips and being good at making chips and whole systems.
That is really sad, I was eager to get a ProBook. Business grade hardware from HP was almost always really good, I'm sad to see it go.
HP make great high end workstations and great servers. Their laptops are not so good. The build quality on any probook I've seen are not up to lenovo's standards although I'll admit HP laptops look prettier.
HP makes very good servers and high end PCs. So where am I meant to buy good servers from now? They spin this off the quality will nose-dive.
Acer make junk, Dell servers lack HP's quality and the hardware changes every 5 minutes, Lenovo don't make servers at all.
The events started as a peaceful protest that was ignored then they escalated with the destruction of 2 police cars. The police shot someone dead and made it look like an execution. This was after they killed 2 other innocent people. Protests were entirely justified but looting wasn't.
The thing is peacueful protests are ignored, the government don't even acknowledge them. So what's left for the people who are really angry about police and government abuses? Some form of civil disabedience is the only option and when that happens looters and bad types turn on.
It's hardly the same thing. India has multiple issues that don't exist in the US or Australia.
Just so it's clear I'm talking about corruption, bribes, poor infrastructure, theft, and the additional costs of selling something that only appeals to a tiny percentage of the population.
Wrong. I can buy in the US and get it shipped here and still save anywhere from 10-30%.
go back and try again.
1. Buy ipads from newegg.com
2. Get them shipped to Auz.
3. Sell them
4. Profit!
If you can make a profit doing that you should be doing it.
+1 insightful. Dammit, where are my mod points?
Refuse sale and seize all their products under government jurisdiction until they answer. I'm sure that would get their attention.
That might work under a fascist state or even a communist one but last I heard Australia was still capitalist and AFAIK Apple hasn't actually broke any laws doing this.
Certainly not TFA. My beef is with the iTunes store - to buy an album here costs AU$17.00 (US$17.63), a huge hike over the $10 price the US enjoys.
If I wanted an iPad, I could always import one from the US, but I can't buy an album from the US iTunes store; they refuse to sell it to me, which is a restriction of trade under Australian law, and something the ACCC has ruled is illegal, at least when applied to physical music media like CDs.
Can't you just proxy your connections though the US?
Virtual servers are cheap or you can buy VPN service.
For those wondering how he got caught, he accessed the servers from his home also for the McDonalds just before he accessed them he purchased some food using this credit card.
That seems amazing stupid.
Well that was totally worth it.
Indeed. Employers can be total asses but what Jason Cornish did was illegal and was going to lead back to him. How did he think he was going to get away with that?
Or get really hippie about it, take all the weed out of your evidence rooms, pile it up wind from any rioters. Light it and put giant fans to blowing the smoke from it their way. Note: Stay out of the smoke.
You really think the police take confiscated weed to an evidence room?
Maybe they do for huge amounts but they don't give out receipts when they take small amounts, they just take it and it magically disappears.
The Olympics.. Pah!
This is costing a fortune causing tax raises and lowering spending on important things. It's only making money for big businesses not the suckers who foot the bill. It's causing disruption to people who actually try working for a living. All the Londoners who were promised tickets are now told they have to buy them for more than any normal person can afford. Even those who can afford to buy them have to go though some weird lotto random-allocation thing because big business gets its share first.
The whole thing is robbing the UK taxpayers to pay big business and pander to the egos of a few irresponsible politicians.
And yes, the security clampdown is going to be terrible.
The Daily Mail are known for being a bit reactionary. I don't know for sure if that is the case in this instance.
The kind of things that get classed as 'violent crimes' are unlikely to be the same between the US and the UK. I don't know about the US but the UK has many classes of physical assault starting from common assault which is simply touching someone without their permission. I believe you have to be rich or a top politician to actually get the police to take common assault seriously though.
The UK national speed limit of 70MPH is temporary, it was introduced in 1964 I think.
As is income tax. There is nothing so permanent as a temporary measure.
You do realize that means rioters would be armed too, right?
So instead of throwing rocks and burning cars, London could be the setting for a Wild West shootout. What an improvement!
There are already plenty of illegal guns in Tottenham, the place where the first riot happened. The rioters didn't bring them because they knew that anyone with a gun gets shot by the police nearly without warning or question. They wanted to protest and/or steal things not perform mass murder.
Well the police and citizens should be armed. Things wouldn't have gotten anywhere near as out of hand if both officers and law abiding citizens under duress were able and ready to permanently end a rioters looting spree.
It was a police shooting that triggered the riots. It's unclear if arming more people would have prevented that from happening or just resulted in more violent protests.
By all means freak out when there's a law being proposed - exercise your considerable civil liberties to their utmost - but at this point, with the information and contect, it's unwarranted.
You have far too much faith in a system that has become bent beyond reason. The UK has been on a steady decline to a police state since the criminal justice and public order act of 1994 removed the right to remain silent. Assuming you are in the US that's like removing the fifth amendment, which BTW was based on protections from the UK Magna Carta of 1215.
If enacted, those provisions would be used against dissenters just like the Terrorism Act is now.
If only they did just use these anti-terror powers against dissenters. So far they have used them against everyone and everything including the entire country of Iceland!
There is a partial list of the people and things declared terrorist at united-kingdom-plc.com
You know you are succeeding in fascism if China praises You. The Standard & Poors of Fascism.
You know you are succeeding in fascism when China tells you that you are going to far. Give it a few more years and the UK will be condemned as a fascist police state by China and there will be queues of UK nationals a thousand long outside the Chinese embassy all begging for visas.
And I do know what I am talking about, thank you. I will not return the insult.
If that were true you would have better things to do than rant on slashdot. I do have better things to do than reply to your mashup of half truths and proof by flood-of-words.
Ranting on slashdot doesn't pay my bills. I suspect it does pay yours.