I think he's saying the presence of the map application constitutes fluff.
Yes. I don't want maps on my phone. If I'm driving I already have satnav. I don't often walk around places I don't know but if I did I would not want to have some fancy phone out on display.
Some of us need to carry a phone that works and don't want or any anything more complex than an alarm clock and stopwatch. Anything else I already have a dedicated, and better, device for.
In the real world, Nokia might be the one to talk about, but even so, its share is far from "world domination"
And yet, the iPhone is the phone that everyone is talking about.
The iPhone is a pretty flashy toy that makes phone calls and lots of people love it for that. It really does look pretty. However for sensible, practical phones that just work without the unwanted fancy fluff Nokia is a clear winner.
It doesn't matter how pretty the interface is if it crashes every few days like my last windows phone.
Phones should do one thing well, they should make and receive calls. You can't do one thing well by taking a huge monster like windows and hacking it down to phone size. You need to start with a small embedded OS or at a push unix.
I had a phone with a Microsoft OS on it once. It kept crashing so I threw it out. Now I only buy Nokia because I want a phone for phone calls, the alarm clock, and very little else.
I don't want movies, music, games, or a camera on a phone. I have better devices for all of that stuff.
If they make it similar enough to Windows that people don't notice the difference, they won't complain.
People will notice the difference: any OS other than Windows won't run "that one must-have app" for which Wine has not yet been modified.
...and those people will go to the supplier and tell them to make a version they can use. The supplier will do that as soon as the cost of being windows only outweighs the costs of building software for a different OS.
Windows has already lost on just about all server applications. There are many alternatives most are better.
In my humble opinion, I predict the demise of Office and Windows OS in next 10 years (maybe there will be cloud versions). I believe Microsoft will move into more enterprise/back-end technology space rather than remaining in desktop/consumer space (just like IBM). But nothing can be predicted to a higher accuracy, as the internet backbone is yet to achieve higher bandwidths and reliability, which is somewhat mandatory before a full migration in to a cloud based software eco-system.
It sounds possible. Old companies that are used to Microsoft server stuff may stick to what they know but companies would be crazy to choose the Microsoft high cost and low reliability option for anything new.
I predict that Microsoft will be unable to adapt and will die a long death until they get brought out in much the same way sun did.
I let Windows inform me about updates, and I choose when to download them and install them. If nobody else has any problems after a week or so, then and only then will I download and install the updates. I learned a long time ago not to trust anything from Microsoft.
You don't trust anything from Microsoft but you trust Microsoft with all your data?
Microsoft Windows is not a new product. If you don't know that it can't be counted on to work like a normal computer, that doesn't just mean you're not technical. It means you have been living under a rock for 20 years.
Strange, under my rock, Windows XP/2003 work well, I rarely have to restart my computers and when I do it is usually because of a hardware problem, long power outage (long enough to discharge UPS batteries) or because I am installing some software that needs a reboot
You are lucky, simple as that.
You might as well be saying that smoking must be safe because you never got lung cancer.
I CAN'T GET MY FUCKING PHD DISSERTATION. I AM SO FUCKED.
You can still get your data off but it might not be easy. Your local PC shop should be able to do it.
People like me have been telling people like you not to trust windows for -DECADES-. You thought we were ignorant bigots and ignored us. Now you are suffering from the very problems we warned you about countless times. I don't mean to sound uncaring but you brought this on yourself.
Of which, according to NetCraft, there are about 49 MILLION. 25% or so of the Internet. It's fine to call them all crazy, but it sort of demeans the term, and makes it pretty much useless as an identifier, since millions of people think it's normal.
Have you considered that maybe 25% or so of the Internet is run by people who have no idea what they are doing? Or by people who know what they are doing but are forced into doing the wrong thing by management that don't?
If you buy a computer with windows on it you own the hardware. You never own the software. You license it on the condition that you agree to the EULA. Microsoft's EULA states that you give up all rights, they are not accountable for anything.
Microsoft users have been and will always be slaves to the evil empire.
You mean India was seen as a model for how lumbering, stagnant markets could ride through a temporary downturn.
Only an idiot would consider an economy with almost 7% growth in a global downturn to be a lumbering, stagnant market.
If I'm wondering the streets wearing rags and staving with only 100 cents in lose change that I found by digging though bins and begging and some kind soul gives me 7 cents am I then well off?
Have you seen the poverty in India? There are endless armies of people with nothing who sleep on the streets, beg, and dig though mountains of garbage for anything of value. I have seen it myself.
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And that got modded insightful? Who gave the MS astroturfers mod points?
None of this is a matter of morality, it's a simple matter that more people reading, and understanding, code makes for better code with less bugs.
Anyone can spend a lot of time reading the linux code and get to understand it, very few people can see microsoft's code.
I think he's saying the presence of the map application constitutes fluff.
Yes. I don't want maps on my phone. If I'm driving I already have satnav. I don't often walk around places I don't know but if I did I would not want to have some fancy phone out on display.
Some of us need to carry a phone that works and don't want or any anything more complex than an alarm clock and stopwatch. Anything else I already have a dedicated, and better, device for.
*Another* piece? Care to name some recent ones? Like in this decade?
Vista. Something with the same name turned up but everything they promised didn't turn up with it.
Certified hardware - vapor
Better user experience - vapor
Most secure windows - vapor
It would make you more productive - vapor
And so on..
Until you can buy one at the store, it's another piece of vaporware from Microsoft.
Actually no. It will remain vaporware even when it's on sale. Microsoft marketing is that good.
And yet, the iPhone is the phone that everyone is talking about.
The iPhone is a pretty flashy toy that makes phone calls and lots of people love it for that. It really does look pretty. However for sensible, practical phones that just work without the unwanted fancy fluff Nokia is a clear winner.
It's much improved from what we've seen in the past but there's a lot of room still for mistakes and bad UI decisions.
...And stability problems like every other windows phone I've seen.
It doesn't matter how pretty the interface is if it crashes every few days like my last windows phone.
Phones should do one thing well, they should make and receive calls. You can't do one thing well by taking a huge monster like windows and hacking it down to phone size. You need to start with a small embedded OS or at a push unix.
This must be April fools day..
I had a phone with a Microsoft OS on it once. It kept crashing so I threw it out. Now I only buy Nokia because I want a phone for phone calls, the alarm clock, and very little else.
I don't want movies, music, games, or a camera on a phone. I have better devices for all of that stuff.
How can you make such pronouncements without asking my requirements?
Because I'm blindly assuming you want something that just works, is fairly secure, and fairly stable.
That's what most people want.
How am I wasting money by paying for products like Win7 and Office?
Because you could get something faster, more stable, more secure, more adaptable, and without the activation nonsense for less or no money.
And that gives you more spare cash for computer hardware, cars, holidays, eating out, or whatever else actually matters in your life.
If they make it similar enough to Windows that people don't notice the difference, they won't complain.
People will notice the difference: any OS other than Windows won't run "that one must-have app" for which Wine has not yet been modified.
...and those people will go to the supplier and tell them to make a version they can use. The supplier will do that as soon as the cost of being windows only outweighs the costs of building software for a different OS.
Windows has already lost on just about all server applications. There are many alternatives most are better.
In my humble opinion, I predict the demise of Office and Windows OS in next 10 years (maybe there will be cloud versions). I believe Microsoft will move into more enterprise/back-end technology space rather than remaining in desktop/consumer space (just like IBM). But nothing can be predicted to a higher accuracy, as the internet backbone is yet to achieve higher bandwidths and reliability, which is somewhat mandatory before a full migration in to a cloud based software eco-system.
It sounds possible. Old companies that are used to Microsoft server stuff may stick to what they know but companies would be crazy to choose the Microsoft high cost and low reliability option for anything new.
I predict that Microsoft will be unable to adapt and will die a long death until they get brought out in much the same way sun did.
you're using windows 7 and batch files? use powershell, more powerful than any of the unix based shells (that i've seen)
The only way that statement could be true is if you have never seen any unix shell.
Data corruption isn't reserved to windows, i've seem OSX eat it's fs too, hell, i've even witnessed data corruption on linux & big iron
True but missing the point. These problems are very likely on windows and very unlikely on linux or mainframes.
I let Windows inform me about updates, and I choose when to download them and install them. If nobody else has any problems after a week or so, then and only then will I download and install the updates. I learned a long time ago not to trust anything from Microsoft.
You don't trust anything from Microsoft but you trust Microsoft with all your data?
Microsoft Windows is not a new product. If you don't know that it can't be counted on to work like a normal computer, that doesn't just mean you're not technical. It means you have been living under a rock for 20 years.
Strange, under my rock, Windows XP/2003 work well, I rarely have to restart my computers and when I do it is usually because of a hardware problem, long power outage (long enough to discharge UPS batteries) or because I am installing some software that needs a reboot
You are lucky, simple as that.
You might as well be saying that smoking must be safe because you never got lung cancer.
Agreed.
As long as you haven't turned on file encryption (only an option with XP Pro), you can easily recover everything. Do this:
1) Go to a friend's computer. Download and burn a copy of your favorite linux distro (I use Ubuntu).
2) Live-boot from the CD.
3) Mount the hard drive.
4) Insert your favorite USB storage device (make sure it is large enough).
5) Copy ALL important files to the USB drive (probably safest to copy your entire user directory, if your USB drive is big enough.
6) When done, re-format your hard drive and re-install XP.
You were making sense up to point 6. Then you started babbling like a mad man.
You suffer something like this and you return like a dog to its own vomit. Isn't this enough of a wake up call for you?
What I don't get is why people don't bother backing up important things like that.
Because pain is the teacher. People don't care about backups until they need one, then they never stop caring.
Compared to the Nuke it and reinstall advice above it, it is a walk in the park.
Reinstalling a better OS like linux is the only sensible alternative. This or something worse is going to happen again, it's only a matter of time.
For the millionth time:
10 Do regular backups
20 Test they work
30 Never trust windows
40 goto 10
It amazes me how smart people never learn from the mistakes of others.
I CAN'T GET MY FUCKING PHD DISSERTATION. I AM SO FUCKED.
You can still get your data off but it might not be easy. Your local PC shop should be able to do it.
People like me have been telling people like you not to trust windows for -DECADES-. You thought we were ignorant bigots and ignored us. Now you are suffering from the very problems we warned you about countless times. I don't mean to sound uncaring but you brought this on yourself.
Of which, according to NetCraft, there are about 49 MILLION. 25% or so of the Internet. It's fine to call them all crazy, but it sort of demeans the term, and makes it pretty much useless as an identifier, since millions of people think it's normal.
Have you considered that maybe 25% or so of the Internet is run by people who have no idea what they are doing? Or by people who know what they are doing but are forced into doing the wrong thing by management that don't?
Who in their right mind would use Windows on a server any more?
Who in their right mind puts windows on a server anyway? Crazy people and masochists, that's who.
If you buy a computer with windows on it you own the hardware. You never own the software. You license it on the condition that you agree to the EULA. Microsoft's EULA states that you give up all rights, they are not accountable for anything.
Microsoft users have been and will always be slaves to the evil empire.
Only an idiot would consider an economy with almost 7% growth in a global downturn to be a lumbering, stagnant market.
If I'm wondering the streets wearing rags and staving with only 100 cents in lose change that I found by digging though bins and begging and some kind soul gives me 7 cents am I then well off?
Have you seen the poverty in India? There are endless armies of people with nothing who sleep on the streets, beg, and dig though mountains of garbage for anything of value. I have seen it myself.
It's not hard to add 7% to very nearly nothing.