I've sent in some pretty detailed stuff like you are describing - steps to re-create, use case, etc. You can only waste time so much though trying to get through the barrage of:
-Works in MY rig/environment
-RTFM (I already did, this isn't in there)
-Fix it yourself we're working on bigger things, the point of giving you the code is YOU fix it
Hell, with most projects even trying to get them to fix typos and grammar issues in the tooltips or help-docs is frustrating.
PEBKAC explains most of these "IT Decision Makers" though. Rarely, if ever, is the "decision maker" technologically literate.
I did some contract IT for a construction company once. They had FOUR different "VPN Solutions". Two hardware ones on differing routers, two software ones that they'd decided to kludge together from "free to home user" alternatives like Hamachi.
The initial thing they were bitching about was that Hamachi had dropped the "free" option down to 5 computers max and several employees got frozen out. They wanted it "fixed", didn't want to hear that commercial use totally violated the "free account" terms of service and that Hamachi wasn't likely to change it without them paying money, and had lost all the documentation for either of their hardware solutions.
The "server" running an old NT4 domain? Oh yeah. Ancient as hell, looking to die any day, but the CEO didn't want to buy anything new or pay anyone to migrate it because "I spent good money on that and it was just fine when I got it and it still works."
I wasn't the first person to wind up just doing the duct tape repairs and I probably won't be the last. When I left, I wasn't even told they were firing me for a month (in which time they brought in a guy who was "tech savvy" to a site manager position, then threw a bunch of IT work at him and he quit, then they hired a second guy and did the same but he stayed, I guess). Three of their employees emailed me a couple month later asking me to come in to fix things for them because (a) "new tech guy" was never in the office and (b) they'd never been told I didn't do contract work for the company any more. I just emailed them back, told them I didn't do contract IT for the company more and that all my documentation had been returned to the CEO, sorry.
This is basically the same way virtually every "small business" winds up running, though. The people who make the pocketbook decisions (a) are technologically illiterate, (b) think that everything now is "free" or "cheap and easy with no maintenance" thanks to marketing drones and FOSS evangelists who go way the fuck too far overpromising, and (c) don't want to hear the words "preventative maintenance" or even "maintenance", ever.
You just explained most military things. Even worse when it comes to anything that could have an off-the-shelf version.
My grandpa used to explain it this way - in WW2, the ironic battle cry among the troops was "remember boys, your guns were made by the lowest bidder."
This. The government is required to have a warrant to track your whereabouts. This is well established through cases such as United States v. Jones 132 S.Ct. 945 (2012) where police tried to surreptitiously attach a GPS tracker to someone's car without a warrant, and Carpenter v. United States 16-402 S.Ct 585 (2017) which established that police require a warrant to obtain cellphone tower records.
When you claim it's better "because many eyes can look at it" the following questions are germane.
#1 - How many eyes ACTUALLY look at it, rather than just "have the opportunity"?
#2 - Of what quality are those eyes? Do they know the programming language in question? Are they up to date?
#3 - Is it just the code in question that matters? Or is it the code, plus a bunch of dependencies to other libraries, pre-compiled or otherwise? How long would it take to become not just a passing pair of eyes, but expert in the programming of the particular application?
#4 - Are those eyes likely to report what they find? Propose code solutions, or at least file bug reports?
#5 - Do the devs actually get around to acting on the proposed code or bug reports?
#6 - How fast do other people relying on this particular project stay up to date, either by downloading the code fixes and recompiling or downloading updated binaries?
It's not really any "safer" if it's open source but someone's pet project that gets an actual new version source/binary release every 6-12 months at most...
FIXING it winds up being even worse. If you're lucky to get someone who notices and reports the bug, there's a good chance the proposed fix breaks something else.
Like the old rhyme goes.
"99 little bugs in the code, 99 little bugs. Take one down, patch it around. 127 little bugs in the code..."
Gotta love how conservative Repukenut Klanners ignore Nixon & Atwater's "Southern Strategy" , lie about the past, and pretend they aren't the modern Klan Party now.
Go run off and burn a cross or something you pathetic white supremacist "anonymous coward".
Meanwhile - Fox Lies pumps out daily falsehoods and propaganda, the same with talk radio, not to even mention the various tinfoil hat youtube sites, "Infowars", conservative cross burners like Curt Schilling and Roseanne who went whole-hog into insane nonsense...
Nope. The ACA didn't take away 30 million people's healthcare.
You're thinking of the cross burners trying to REPEAL it. DARVO tactics again... unsurprising that white supremacist trolls use tactics of domestic abusers though.
The interesting thing is watching a white supremacist scream "waah you're the real racist" - that's DARVO, a tactic of narcissistic abusers. Commonplace with cross burning white supremacists (note their "white civil rights" malarkey recently) though.
Let me get this straight. An article about a monetary donation to a fact checking site and two opinion articles, and you're too media illiterate to check the bylines?
"and instead it dumped 30m more people into poverty with the loss of their insurance"
See also: Brandolini's Law. White supremacists like "Mashiki" love to make up bullshit like this that isn't true and make you waste time debunking their lying asses.
Because dealing with white supremacist bullshit artists like you requires dealing with Brandolini's Law, and all you're trying to do is bog people down as a troll tactic. But since I recognize it, I can simply point out you're a white supremacist troll and ignore you instead.
I love how you trot out a book by a white supremacist hack who beat the "benghazi whee" tinfoil hat nonsense to death and derailed her own career by making crap up repeatedly, as your "source".
But hey, that stuff must sell in the trailer park.
Yes, yes. We're all aware of the cult of wikipedia. Say anything truthful that isn't kiss-ass about it, remind people that it is "a kind of quantum encyclopedia, where genuine data both exists and doesn’t exist depending on the precise moment I rely upon your discordant fucking mob for my information" and the pro-wikipedia trolls will come in screaming.
We are 13 years after Tycho's observation and Wikipedia still has the same problems. As an entity it hasn't learned from its mistakes - if anything it doubled down on the "admin as god" cult, bestowing ever more power on a cliquish few who are less interested in getting it right than in deleting what they dislike and making sure nobody ever, ever questions the conduct of the admin clique Judge Dredds.
Given that "conservative view points" generally amount to either cross burning racism, attempts to incite violence (see Alex Jones favorites such as "Pizzagate" or his 4th of July stunt this year), or a mixture of the two...
If you are trying to compare Media Matters, which is primarily a fact-checking and informational review site, to a conspiracy peddler site like Infowars... well, you're part of the problem. False equivalence ploys by white supremacist conservatives are a common and well observed tactic.
You haven't been around humanity much if you think that people are currently learning when they screw up. Or what's your explanation for the number of inbred tinfoil-hatters who believe sites like Infowars?
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-Works in MY rig/environment
-RTFM (I already did, this isn't in there)
-Fix it yourself we're working on bigger things, the point of giving you the code is YOU fix it
Hell, with most projects even trying to get them to fix typos and grammar issues in the tooltips or help-docs is frustrating.
I did some contract IT for a construction company once. They had FOUR different "VPN Solutions". Two hardware ones on differing routers, two software ones that they'd decided to kludge together from "free to home user" alternatives like Hamachi.
The initial thing they were bitching about was that Hamachi had dropped the "free" option down to 5 computers max and several employees got frozen out. They wanted it "fixed", didn't want to hear that commercial use totally violated the "free account" terms of service and that Hamachi wasn't likely to change it without them paying money, and had lost all the documentation for either of their hardware solutions.
The "server" running an old NT4 domain? Oh yeah. Ancient as hell, looking to die any day, but the CEO didn't want to buy anything new or pay anyone to migrate it because "I spent good money on that and it was just fine when I got it and it still works."
I wasn't the first person to wind up just doing the duct tape repairs and I probably won't be the last. When I left, I wasn't even told they were firing me for a month (in which time they brought in a guy who was "tech savvy" to a site manager position, then threw a bunch of IT work at him and he quit, then they hired a second guy and did the same but he stayed, I guess). Three of their employees emailed me a couple month later asking me to come in to fix things for them because (a) "new tech guy" was never in the office and (b) they'd never been told I didn't do contract work for the company any more. I just emailed them back, told them I didn't do contract IT for the company more and that all my documentation had been returned to the CEO, sorry.
This is basically the same way virtually every "small business" winds up running, though. The people who make the pocketbook decisions (a) are technologically illiterate, (b) think that everything now is "free" or "cheap and easy with no maintenance" thanks to marketing drones and FOSS evangelists who go way the fuck too far overpromising, and (c) don't want to hear the words "preventative maintenance" or even "maintenance", ever.
You just explained most military things. Even worse when it comes to anything that could have an off-the-shelf version. My grandpa used to explain it this way - in WW2, the ironic battle cry among the troops was "remember boys, your guns were made by the lowest bidder."
This. The government is required to have a warrant to track your whereabouts. This is well established through cases such as United States v. Jones 132 S.Ct. 945 (2012) where police tried to surreptitiously attach a GPS tracker to someone's car without a warrant, and Carpenter v. United States 16-402 S.Ct 585 (2017) which established that police require a warrant to obtain cellphone tower records.
Who said "commercial" is the only variety there? Remember what happened to TrueCrypt, and that was "open source".
General response I've gotten from opensource/linuxheads: "oh you think our code is bad? Why don't you fix it yourself then leech." So maybe YMMV.
When you claim it's better "because many eyes can look at it" the following questions are germane.
#1 - How many eyes ACTUALLY look at it, rather than just "have the opportunity"?
#2 - Of what quality are those eyes? Do they know the programming language in question? Are they up to date?
#3 - Is it just the code in question that matters? Or is it the code, plus a bunch of dependencies to other libraries, pre-compiled or otherwise? How long would it take to become not just a passing pair of eyes, but expert in the programming of the particular application?
#4 - Are those eyes likely to report what they find? Propose code solutions, or at least file bug reports?
#5 - Do the devs actually get around to acting on the proposed code or bug reports?
#6 - How fast do other people relying on this particular project stay up to date, either by downloading the code fixes and recompiling or downloading updated binaries?
It's not really any "safer" if it's open source but someone's pet project that gets an actual new version source/binary release every 6-12 months at most...
FIXING it winds up being even worse. If you're lucky to get someone who notices and reports the bug, there's a good chance the proposed fix breaks something else.
Like the old rhyme goes.
"99 little bugs in the code,
99 little bugs.
Take one down, patch it around.
127 little bugs in the code..."
Awww, the little cross burner has a throwaway anonymous account.
Gotta love how conservative Repukenut Klanners ignore Nixon & Atwater's "Southern Strategy" , lie about the past, and pretend they aren't the modern Klan Party now.
Go run off and burn a cross or something you pathetic white supremacist "anonymous coward".
Robert Byrd was not a "KKK Leader" and in fact renounced the KKK.
CONSERVATIVES started the civil war to keep slavery.
CONSERVATIVES filibustered the civil rights act.
Now which party screams "conservatism" all day long these days?
Oh yeah. The Repukelant Klan Party.
https://yourlogicalfallacyis.c...
Meanwhile - Fox Lies pumps out daily falsehoods and propaganda, the same with talk radio, not to even mention the various tinfoil hat youtube sites, "Infowars", conservative cross burners like Curt Schilling and Roseanne who went whole-hog into insane nonsense...
It's amazing you can repeat so many untruths like that and expect people to just believe it.
When someone posts stuff by white supremacists as their source... a spade's a spade.
Nope. The ACA didn't take away 30 million people's healthcare.
You're thinking of the cross burners trying to REPEAL it. DARVO tactics again... unsurprising that white supremacist trolls use tactics of domestic abusers though.
https://www.cbpp.org/blog/who-...
The interesting thing is watching a white supremacist scream "waah you're the real racist" - that's DARVO, a tactic of narcissistic abusers. Commonplace with cross burning white supremacists (note their "white civil rights" malarkey recently) though.
Let me get this straight. An article about a monetary donation to a fact checking site and two opinion articles, and you're too media illiterate to check the bylines?
I'd laugh if it weren't so sad.
"and instead it dumped 30m more people into poverty with the loss of their insurance"
See also: Brandolini's Law. White supremacists like "Mashiki" love to make up bullshit like this that isn't true and make you waste time debunking their lying asses.
Because dealing with white supremacist bullshit artists like you requires dealing with Brandolini's Law, and all you're trying to do is bog people down as a troll tactic. But since I recognize it, I can simply point out you're a white supremacist troll and ignore you instead.
" the propaganda wing of the Democrat party"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?...
I love how you trot out a book by a white supremacist hack who beat the "benghazi whee" tinfoil hat nonsense to death and derailed her own career by making crap up repeatedly, as your "source".
But hey, that stuff must sell in the trailer park.
Yes, yes. We're all aware of the cult of wikipedia. Say anything truthful that isn't kiss-ass about it, remind people that it is "a kind of quantum encyclopedia, where genuine data both exists and doesn’t exist depending on the precise moment I rely upon your discordant fucking mob for my information" and the pro-wikipedia trolls will come in screaming.
https://www.penny-arcade.com/n...
We are 13 years after Tycho's observation and Wikipedia still has the same problems. As an entity it hasn't learned from its mistakes - if anything it doubled down on the "admin as god" cult, bestowing ever more power on a cliquish few who are less interested in getting it right than in deleting what they dislike and making sure nobody ever, ever questions the conduct of the admin clique Judge Dredds.
Given that "conservative view points" generally amount to either cross burning racism, attempts to incite violence (see Alex Jones favorites such as "Pizzagate" or his 4th of July stunt this year), or a mixture of the two...
If you are trying to compare Media Matters, which is primarily a fact-checking and informational review site, to a conspiracy peddler site like Infowars... well, you're part of the problem. False equivalence ploys by white supremacist conservatives are a common and well observed tactic.
You haven't been around humanity much if you think that people are currently learning when they screw up. Or what's your explanation for the number of inbred tinfoil-hatters who believe sites like Infowars?