I am the owner of any song, not the song's creator. My ancestors invented words "I", "love" and "you" - and all other words and musical tones.
By this logic I am the owner of any house created not the builder or architect. Since nature provided the trees for the wood and they are for the taking right? And all lines that can be drawn have been drawn by my ancestors. I own the blue prints and the physical house. Since all houses have been built from components and pieces that were at one time or another built by my ancestors. In fact I own you since your genetic material was created by my ancestors as much as yours. How does it feel to be both prior art and property?
You're argument is ludicrous and false on it's face!
But what in the world gives you the right to posses a work just because it exists if the creator/owner prefers that you not see it or own it? That's like saying that just because your sword exists I have the right to use it in any way I wish. By your logic I could come over to your house and remodel it at a whim and you could do nothing about it. I just pirated your living room for my own purposes. I could even make it cost prohibitive for you to put it back the way you want it.
Last I heard a punishment was supposed to hurt. But it should also fit the crime. Just because it bankrupts someone doesn't mean it was too big. Right now a $5000 fine could bankrupt me, so the actual size doesn't really matter that much. But yeah when you wiggle on the hook enough it makes the punishment that much harder to take I guess.
And the judge just told you what that is. Fair use is an affirmative defense against a copyright suit. But it's never given that what you are doing is fair use. There is no such thing as fair use in the actual copyright law,only in preceding case law. I'm with the guy that says "Pay the 2 bucks" (which is a very funny skit that reminds me so much of this case).
Just in case no one has heard the "Pay the 2 Bucks" skit it goes something like this:
A guy spits on the sidewalk and a cop sees it. He gets a ticket. He's taking to his lawyer and the lawyer says, don't pay it I can get you off. They go to court and it goes completely wrong, the poor guy is thrown in jail. He tells his lawyer next time he sees him to "Pay the 2 bucks". But his lawyer says I can get you out of this just wait. Two days later the guy hears them building a gallows outside his window and he tells his lawyer, boy that guy must have really screwed up huh? and the lawyer says, no that's for you, the guy says in a panic, "Pay the 2 bucks!" but his lawyers laughs it off and says never mind that I can get you out of this...At the pearly gates, the guy spits on the sidewalk and he gets a ticket from a passing angel cop, the guy behind him says, here I'm a lawyer I can get you out of that! but the Guy says OH no you don't that's how I got here. I'm paying the 2 bucks this time!
It was much funnier when it was done by Sid Caesar.
So little you think of archaeologists that you think they will stop at a license missing error...
We have still not decoded all of the stuff that WAS written down, and we have misinterpreted at least half of what we think we know.
It is doubtful that there won't somewhere be a physical copy of a digital work. Today they are almost never in existence as purely digital.
Not having access from a still working reader is a minor inconvenience at worst.
As if an idea has no force unless you can hold it in your hand and destroy it physically. As if painstakingly copying the content from one place to another imbued the book with some magical force that the digital one doesn't have. DRM is a straw man here. we will never again be at the mercy of the idiots that burned the library at Alexandria. We will never be able to burn every copy of an idea. Get over it Doctorow DRM is here and it will be broken as fast as it is developed. railing against it just makes you look silly. Quietly break it, keep your mouth shut and get on with life. Screaming in the dark instead of lighting a candle does none of us any good.
Local admin on the machine I use every day but restricted rights to the domain. Also the on the term servers we have restricted installation rights to allow deployment of our apps.
Pretty standard as far as I can tell the last 3 or 4 companies I've worked for worked this way.
Unless like Apple you were offered terms that amount to extortion and now get to take it to court,yeah Apple sort of had a choice. Nokia may do research but they also buy patent portfolios from small companies just to use as bludgeons.
Nokia has maintained its dominance by patent trolling. It's a way of doing business for them. No body with a big enough patent pile has challenged them yet.
Nokia has finally opened the hurt bag on itself. They are one of the biggest patent trolls out there and have been bullying all the other phone makers for years and no one had the patent portfolio to stand up to them before. They just might get their products banned for this one. Their usual strategy is to discredit the other manufacturer rather than out compete them and if that fails then the patent hammer gets them.
There can't possibly be a downside is more or less correct. Hard to keep that kind of secret when every Tom, Dick and Harry can do their own gene sequencing in the kitchen practically. You can't keep that kind of secret unless your whole crop is sterile, even the "hybrid" crops don't produce 100% sterile crops. we have come to a point in technology that we can actually start to manipulate our own genes and have been for a couple of decades now. When was the last time you heard of a "Boy in the Bubble" being born. Fact is they are born at a moderately low rate and can be completely cured by gene therapy. That technology is over 20 years old now.
I used to work for a genetics company in the IT department, I was doing the lab control software. I don't work there now. We created our own transgenic seed. They somehow found the gene that controlled seed size. It was quite amazing but I left before they could produce a commercial product and right then the whole transgenic fear craze hit and crashed a lot of projects. Pity, could have fed millions more per acre.
Yes, those dogs that we breed for scarcity are such a large part of the food supply we must stop the selective breeding of these animals for profit? you don't actually know what you are talking about.
Selective breeding is no different. Selecting for characteristics during a breeding program can bring out transgenic genes that have been brought over from other organisms by viruses. It happens all the time and we have genes in us that are inactive but could be activated by a random mutation and bred true at any time.
Well actually I can provide an example of some unintended results of genetic modification. The extinction of monarch butterflies in certain areas where a genetically modified corn that produced pollen that kills corn borer worms. The pollen was getting onto fields of milkweed that the monarch butterfly used as breeding ground and the pollen was poison to the borer worms and the larvae of the butterfly accidentally. However I worked for a company that was genetically modifying plants and it's really hard to get unexpected results from genes once you have identified what they do in the original organism. Side affects like the monarch problem however are harder to predict.
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How about those who donated to EveryDNS?
No they don't take them, they now DEMAND them.
Quite a lot. I went to EveryDNS after DynDNS began charging for everything I wanted to do.
I am the owner of any song, not the song's creator. My ancestors invented words "I", "love" and "you" - and all other words and musical tones.
By this logic I am the owner of any house created not the builder or architect. Since nature provided the trees for the wood and they are for the taking right? And all lines that can be drawn have been drawn by my ancestors. I own the blue prints and the physical house. Since all houses have been built from components and pieces that were at one time or another built by my ancestors. In fact I own you since your genetic material was created by my ancestors as much as yours. How does it feel to be both prior art and property?
You're argument is ludicrous and false on it's face!
But what in the world gives you the right to posses a work just because it exists if the creator/owner prefers that you not see it or own it? That's like saying that just because your sword exists I have the right to use it in any way I wish. By your logic I could come over to your house and remodel it at a whim and you could do nothing about it. I just pirated your living room for my own purposes. I could even make it cost prohibitive for you to put it back the way you want it.
There are several ways in which to buy the rights to a piece of a work. Do the research it's not rocket science.
Last I heard a punishment was supposed to hurt. But it should also fit the crime. Just because it bankrupts someone doesn't mean it was too big. Right now a $5000 fine could bankrupt me, so the actual size doesn't really matter that much. But yeah when you wiggle on the hook enough it makes the punishment that much harder to take I guess.
And the judge just told you what that is. Fair use is an affirmative defense against a copyright suit. But it's never given that what you are doing is fair use. There is no such thing as fair use in the actual copyright law ,only in preceding case law. I'm with the guy that says "Pay the 2 bucks" (which is a very funny skit that reminds me so much of this case).
Just in case no one has heard the "Pay the 2 Bucks" skit it goes something like this:
A guy spits on the sidewalk and a cop sees it. He gets a ticket. He's taking to his lawyer and the lawyer says, don't pay it I can get you off. They go to court and it goes completely wrong, the poor guy is thrown in jail. He tells his lawyer next time he sees him to "Pay the 2 bucks". But his lawyer says I can get you out of this just wait. Two days later the guy hears them building a gallows outside his window and he tells his lawyer, boy that guy must have really screwed up huh? and the lawyer says, no that's for you, the guy says in a panic, "Pay the 2 bucks!" but his lawyers laughs it off and says never mind that I can get you out of this...At the pearly gates, the guy spits on the sidewalk and he gets a ticket from a passing angel cop, the guy behind him says, here I'm a lawyer I can get you out of that! but the Guy says OH no you don't that's how I got here. I'm paying the 2 bucks this time!
It was much funnier when it was done by Sid Caesar.
So little you think of archaeologists that you think they will stop at a license missing error...
We have still not decoded all of the stuff that WAS written down, and we have misinterpreted at least half of what we think we know.
It is doubtful that there won't somewhere be a physical copy of a digital work. Today they are almost never in existence as purely digital.
Not having access from a still working reader is a minor inconvenience at worst.
As if an idea has no force unless you can hold it in your hand and destroy it physically. As if painstakingly copying the content from one place to another imbued the book with some magical force that the digital one doesn't have. DRM is a straw man here. we will never again be at the mercy of the idiots that burned the library at Alexandria. We will never be able to burn every copy of an idea. Get over it Doctorow DRM is here and it will be broken as fast as it is developed. railing against it just makes you look silly. Quietly break it, keep your mouth shut and get on with life. Screaming in the dark instead of lighting a candle does none of us any good.
You are in my prayers brah. But I can't send booze as I don't have local admin rights to the liquor cabinet.
Local admin on the machine I use every day but restricted rights to the domain. Also the on the term servers we have restricted installation rights to allow deployment of our apps. Pretty standard as far as I can tell the last 3 or 4 companies I've worked for worked this way.
If you define happy to pay as "Had no choice cause the patent bludgeon held by Nokia is bigger than ours" then yes they were happy to pay.
Unless like Apple you were offered terms that amount to extortion and now get to take it to court ,yeah Apple sort of had a choice. Nokia may do research but they also buy patent portfolios from small companies just to use as bludgeons.
Nokia has maintained its dominance by patent trolling. It's a way of doing business for them. No body with a big enough patent pile has challenged them yet.
Nokia has finally opened the hurt bag on itself. They are one of the biggest patent trolls out there and have been bullying all the other phone makers for years and no one had the patent portfolio to stand up to them before. They just might get their products banned for this one. Their usual strategy is to discredit the other manufacturer rather than out compete them and if that fails then the patent hammer gets them.
Sorry it is exactly genetic modification. Get your definitions right.
There can't possibly be a downside is more or less correct. Hard to keep that kind of secret when every Tom, Dick and Harry can do their own gene sequencing in the kitchen practically. You can't keep that kind of secret unless your whole crop is sterile, even the "hybrid" crops don't produce 100% sterile crops. we have come to a point in technology that we can actually start to manipulate our own genes and have been for a couple of decades now. When was the last time you heard of a "Boy in the Bubble" being born. Fact is they are born at a moderately low rate and can be completely cured by gene therapy. That technology is over 20 years old now.
I used to work for a genetics company in the IT department, I was doing the lab control software. I don't work there now. We created our own transgenic seed. They somehow found the gene that controlled seed size. It was quite amazing but I left before they could produce a commercial product and right then the whole transgenic fear craze hit and crashed a lot of projects. Pity, could have fed millions more per acre.
Yes, those dogs that we breed for scarcity are such a large part of the food supply we must stop the selective breeding of these animals for profit? you don't actually know what you are talking about.
Any one you are not in would be a paradise by comparison.
Yeah I prefer the unconscious. Much easier to deal with...
Selective breeding is no different. Selecting for characteristics during a breeding program can bring out transgenic genes that have been brought over from other organisms by viruses. It happens all the time and we have genes in us that are inactive but could be activated by a random mutation and bred true at any time.
Well actually I can provide an example of some unintended results of genetic modification. The extinction of monarch butterflies in certain areas where a genetically modified corn that produced pollen that kills corn borer worms. The pollen was getting onto fields of milkweed that the monarch butterfly used as breeding ground and the pollen was poison to the borer worms and the larvae of the butterfly accidentally. However I worked for a company that was genetically modifying plants and it's really hard to get unexpected results from genes once you have identified what they do in the original organism. Side affects like the monarch problem however are harder to predict.
I want some of what this guy smokes...