We have been genetically modifying food since we first stopped just gathering it and began cultivating it. Get over it folks we are constantly modifying our environment and our food stuffs through genetic selection. Why rail at the fact that we have found a faster way to change what we eat? Oooh the unknown very scary. Grow up humans.
'The fear is that if you pursue computer science, you will be stuck in a basement, writing code. That is absolutely not the reality.'"
I don't know what reality this guy is talking about but I'm pretty much stuck in a basement writing code. I was trained as an architect,a welder and a diesel mechanic, so being all of those and being able to write code got me stuck in the basement.
It's a joke on the whole copyright thing. If I were going to really flame you I'd have pointed out the many grammar mistakes you made, but I kind of guessed you weren't a native english speaker by the pattern of the grammar mistakes. Spelling and grammar flames are guaranteed to generate more of the same in the flame so I don't regularly bother. But I thought I'd rip on the creativity thing instead. So my apologies if I offended where I did not intend.
Good the first rational argument here. Let's go I'll vote. Um, but wait we have to do this in a year or so and then 2 years later, and by then the initiative will be back in the corporations hands, and we'll all just....never mind. What were we talking about again?
I get this overwhelming feeling of vultures waiting to pounce on the unlucky copyrighted material that will expire and be grist for the endlessly unoriginal rehashing of other peoples work. The mish mash of once popular icons used in a muck of re-done banality simply because they were once popular.
Am I the only one wishing these people would actually think and create for themselves instead of wishing for the bits and pieces of popular culture to be available for free. Or even man up and pay the license fee if what they think is original and is possibly worth the sharing with the rest of us?
I am so fed up with the "OMG" it's still copyrighted, it's the end of the world woe is me I might have to shell out some bucks to be uncreative and use a piece of someone else's creative drivel.
this post copyright 2009 by Methius Incorporated
Wow, if you wait long enough they will re-instate the choice but charge $5 per month to maintain the choice. It's the Verizon way..Yeah we get a buck for that...
Ok I understand your viewpoint and you are not the one I need to point the finger at... Why must FOSS fundies be convinced of anything and why must there be a rationale for charging for work that I do?
In any case, would you say that you worship Ayn Rand or do you prefer to just say "Heil Hitler"?Neither, I prefer to be civilized and respect the law as it is written and/or intended to be enforced. Yeah less abysmal quality (doubtful), and much easier to sensor for anti-state sentiment. Easier to keep the sexual content down to the currently accepted state church approved levels. Much easier to get the message across about all those state approved causes. And the language can be far more tightly controlled. Just look at what the BBC produces.
I'll use myself as an example. I purchased a shiny new PC with blu-ray/hd-dvd... Hmmm interesting I think to myself....let me play this AVI I just recorded off my digital camera...imagine my surprise when it would not let me play that either. Now....mister DRM man....is that how its supposed to work? I am screwed because microsoft blames Nvidia and Denon, Denon wants nothing to do with me and insists that its a software problem from microsoft. So now I have to go buy software, which if it were up to you, would be completely illegal and not available just so I can watch a movie on my bigscreen.
Can't help it if you bought and didn't actually read and or pay attention to the interactions of the parts. Or you bought inferior products and they didn't work as advertised. No it's not supposed to work that way and I agree it's a major pain. I on the other hand bought an Apple TV I have never felt the need to buy Blue-ray after that and it all works perfectly on my 50 inch plasma with hmdi and hdcp. I rarely use a DVD player and the one I have plays AVI files directly off of a USB stick with no hassles what so ever. Incidentally I don't work for a company developing DRM. We deliver keys for the already DRMed content supplied by the studios just like Deluxe. I develop warehouse management software actually. the other side are a bunch of punks who want to steal shit
No there are a bunch of punks that want to steal shit but they are not the problem they at least are honest about it. It's the sense of entitlement that you seem to imbue the world with, that somehow since it was created you get to enjoy it no matter how little you contribute to the well being of the creator. And since it costs you nothing to share you can share with impunity. Since it costs you personally nothing to give it away (I mean you still get to keep it) I guess it has no value and therefore you can just give it away and share it with the world. That way the poor artist will starve and well you know another one will come along eventually anyway so what do I care about that one. You create nothing and value nothing created by any one else.
My point in all this is that, it's OK for small projects to charge for the solution
I'm so glad we have your permission...I'd rather have your cash. Even if the platform is OSS I'm going to charge for my solutions. You are free to vote with your cash but I don't need or want your permission for anything and the arrogance that your post shows is indicative of the attitude most OSS "bigots" I see around/.
People often ask me why they should pay for these apps when they can just pirate them for free. You mean other than the obvious moral problems with piracy and theft. The latest generation's ability to freeload "just because they can" gives me no end of heartburn.
As far as I can tell you are supposed to vette your own apps because there is no app store approval process to make sure that every app in the store is not a Trojan.
So we should farm for your good and let you eat free? Grow up. I have just as much right to make my living as a farmer as any other profession. I really love the "I need it to live therefore it should be free" attitude, just wondrous. If I could figure out how to charge you for the air you breathe I'd be charging you for it. Get over it people, there is no such thing as a free lunch.
So what, if anything, should the community be doing about it?"
Shut up pay your money to the good developers that have decided to hitch their stars to your sacred platform and hope that eventually you get some free stuff later. This is, on it's face, a stupid question actually!
Actually it is the performance that we get paid for so allowing the performance and then suing to get the money is more costly to us than having the theater piss of a few customers that will simply pick a different theater next time.
The idea is to keep honest people honest. Just like the lock on your front/back door that is no match for a good kick. Face it, crooks are crooks and defending them by claiming that a lock is out dated is just wrong. Civilization is about respecting boundaries and you guys have just forgotten how to behave in polite company. You have shown that you are no longer able to live within a structure of civilized behavior and therefore deserve no more respect than any common criminal.
All it takes for us is 1 person to break it and share
Yup one crook and the whole lot of you benefit. What happened to civilization and the respect for property in any form. Keep down this road and chaos ensues. Way to be adults.
No, the theaters (thousands of them) have in the past indeed ripped off the distributors by playing the movie in more houses than they licensed. You really need to remember that if there is a counter measure for something then it has probably already occurred. You guys have no real clue about this business model and don't really know what you are talking about.
to each according to his needs from each according to his abilities right comrade? Yeah, I really want the government funding my movies. And you still aren't getting it about the DRM being discussed. The DRM that failed in this case is used to prevent the theaters from ripping us off for our playout fees not to keep the consumer from copying it.
A friend of mine buys a copy of the movie from a home video store and gives it to me as a gift. Given what you just said, I "have[n't] any business getting it at all!" because I didn't pay for the copy. You have legaly obtained a copy, not what I said or intended and you could have known that if you had read the post I was commenting on.
Your clip may or may not be fair use that's for a judge to decide.
The library also pays the required license to the movie industry for a rental agency. Also a legal way to obtain it. you're getting stupid here.
Good for you, and "whoooosh" you didn't get "it"
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We have been genetically modifying food since we first stopped just gathering it and began cultivating it. Get over it folks we are constantly modifying our environment and our food stuffs through genetic selection. Why rail at the fact that we have found a faster way to change what we eat? Oooh the unknown very scary. Grow up humans.
'The fear is that if you pursue computer science, you will be stuck in a basement, writing code. That is absolutely not the reality.'"
I don't know what reality this guy is talking about but I'm pretty much stuck in a basement writing code. I was trained as an architect,a welder and a diesel mechanic, so being all of those and being able to write code got me stuck in the basement.
Relax, It's a joke son, I say it's a joke.
It's a joke on the whole copyright thing. If I were going to really flame you I'd have pointed out the many grammar mistakes you made, but I kind of guessed you weren't a native english speaker by the pattern of the grammar mistakes. Spelling and grammar flames are guaranteed to generate more of the same in the flame so I don't regularly bother. But I thought I'd rip on the creativity thing instead. So my apologies if I offended where I did not intend.
Good the first rational argument here. Let's go I'll vote. Um, but wait we have to do this in a year or so and then 2 years later, and by then the initiative will be back in the corporations hands, and we'll all just....never mind. What were we talking about again?
I'm with you dude. Can't see how it stops creativity.
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very creative spelling, can I steal it?
I get this overwhelming feeling of vultures waiting to pounce on the unlucky copyrighted material that will expire and be grist for the endlessly unoriginal rehashing of other peoples work. The mish mash of once popular icons used in a muck of re-done banality simply because they were once popular.
Am I the only one wishing these people would actually think and create for themselves instead of wishing for the bits and pieces of popular culture to be available for free. Or even man up and pay the license fee if what they think is original and is possibly worth the sharing with the rest of us?
I am so fed up with the "OMG" it's still copyrighted, it's the end of the world woe is me I might have to shell out some bucks to be uncreative and use a piece of someone else's creative drivel. this post copyright 2009 by Methius Incorporated
Wow, if you wait long enough they will re-instate the choice but charge $5 per month to maintain the choice. It's the Verizon way..Yeah we get a buck for that...
Losing choice is a pretty good reason to chuck a carrier I don't care how good bing's privacy is or isn't.
Ok I understand your viewpoint and you are not the one I need to point the finger at... Why must FOSS fundies be convinced of anything and why must there be a rationale for charging for work that I do?
In any case, would you say that you worship Ayn Rand or do you prefer to just say "Heil Hitler"?Neither, I prefer to be civilized and respect the law as it is written and/or intended to be enforced. Yeah less abysmal quality (doubtful), and much easier to sensor for anti-state sentiment. Easier to keep the sexual content down to the currently accepted state church approved levels. Much easier to get the message across about all those state approved causes. And the language can be far more tightly controlled. Just look at what the BBC produces.
I'll use myself as an example. I purchased a shiny new PC with blu-ray/hd-dvd ... Hmmm interesting I think to myself....let me play this AVI I just recorded off my digital camera...imagine my surprise when it would not let me play that either. Now....mister DRM man....is that how its supposed to work? I am screwed because microsoft blames Nvidia and Denon, Denon wants nothing to do with me and insists that its a software problem from microsoft. So now I have to go buy software, which if it were up to you, would be completely illegal and not available just so I can watch a movie on my bigscreen.
Can't help it if you bought and didn't actually read and or pay attention to the interactions of the parts. Or you bought inferior products and they didn't work as advertised. No it's not supposed to work that way and I agree it's a major pain. I on the other hand bought an Apple TV I have never felt the need to buy Blue-ray after that and it all works perfectly on my 50 inch plasma with hmdi and hdcp. I rarely use a DVD player and the one I have plays AVI files directly off of a USB stick with no hassles what so ever. Incidentally I don't work for a company developing DRM. We deliver keys for the already DRMed content supplied by the studios just like Deluxe. I develop warehouse management software actually.
the other side are a bunch of punks who want to steal shit
No there are a bunch of punks that want to steal shit but they are not the problem they at least are honest about it. It's the sense of entitlement that you seem to imbue the world with, that somehow since it was created you get to enjoy it no matter how little you contribute to the well being of the creator. And since it costs you nothing to share you can share with impunity. Since it costs you personally nothing to give it away (I mean you still get to keep it) I guess it has no value and therefore you can just give it away and share it with the world. That way the poor artist will starve and well you know another one will come along eventually anyway so what do I care about that one. You create nothing and value nothing created by any one else.
My point in all this is that, it's OK for small projects to charge for the solution /.
I'm so glad we have your permission...I'd rather have your cash. Even if the platform is OSS I'm going to charge for my solutions. You are free to vote with your cash but I don't need or want your permission for anything and the arrogance that your post shows is indicative of the attitude most OSS "bigots" I see around
People often ask me why they should pay for these apps when they can just pirate them for free.
You mean other than the obvious moral problems with piracy and theft.
The latest generation's ability to freeload "just because they can" gives me no end of heartburn.
As far as I can tell you are supposed to vette your own apps because there is no app store approval process to make sure that every app in the store is not a Trojan.
So we should farm for your good and let you eat free? Grow up. I have just as much right to make my living as a farmer as any other profession. I really love the "I need it to live therefore it should be free" attitude, just wondrous. If I could figure out how to charge you for the air you breathe I'd be charging you for it. Get over it people, there is no such thing as a free lunch.
So what, if anything, should the community be doing about it?"
Shut up pay your money to the good developers that have decided to hitch their stars to your sacred platform and hope that eventually you get some free stuff later. This is, on it's face, a stupid question actually!
Bit self centered are we. Sorry not intended for you personally...
Actually it is the performance that we get paid for so allowing the performance and then suing to get the money is more costly to us than having the theater piss of a few customers that will simply pick a different theater next time.
The idea is to keep honest people honest. Just like the lock on your front/back door that is no match for a good kick. Face it, crooks are crooks and defending them by claiming that a lock is out dated is just wrong. Civilization is about respecting boundaries and you guys have just forgotten how to behave in polite company. You have shown that you are no longer able to live within a structure of civilized behavior and therefore deserve no more respect than any common criminal.
Wow, big mouth with no face!
All it takes for us is 1 person to break it and share
Yup one crook and the whole lot of you benefit. What happened to civilization and the respect for property in any form. Keep down this road and chaos ensues. Way to be adults.
yeah, um not really applicable here but thanks for playing...
No, the theaters (thousands of them) have in the past indeed ripped off the distributors by playing the movie in more houses than they licensed. You really need to remember that if there is a counter measure for something then it has probably already occurred. You guys have no real clue about this business model and don't really know what you are talking about.
to each according to his needs from each according to his abilities right comrade? Yeah, I really want the government funding my movies. And you still aren't getting it about the DRM being discussed. The DRM that failed in this case is used to prevent the theaters from ripping us off for our playout fees not to keep the consumer from copying it.
A friend of mine buys a copy of the movie from a home video store and gives it to me as a gift. Given what you just said, I "have[n't] any business getting it at all!" because I didn't pay for the copy.
You have legaly obtained a copy, not what I said or intended and you could have known that if you had read the post I was commenting on.
Your clip may or may not be fair use that's for a judge to decide.
The library also pays the required license to the movie industry for a rental agency. Also a legal way to obtain it. you're getting stupid here.
Good for you, and "whoooosh" you didn't get "it"