This is exactly the type of thing I'm talking about. Because everybody has their own pet project and their own pet installer or make tool and their own version of the GPL or maybe LGPL so even if I'm only using a library I have to consult a lawyer to see if I can write a program that I want to sell do I only have to release source to the parts I didn't write or do I have to include the parts I wrote also? oops forgot I was just trying to install the library.
Here is where I am. I really loved the early days and sometimes I still think I can get in there and work with this stuff. But after my last attempt to port an open source project to my mac I just gave up. In my day I wrote a FORTH interpreter for the 6502 in the Commodore 64, I ported GCC to the Amiga, I ported GCC to the 29000 processor running on an accelerator board in a mac. I'm not a stranger to installing massive amounts of libraries to get something running, I'm just tired of it.
Openoffice is a notable exception. But if you take a version of Red Hat Enterprise Linux say 5 or 6 and fail on install to tell it you want to have an HTTP server installed then later want one installed, well me and the Navy sysadmin gave up after an hour (we had all the CD's) and switched to Windows XP running wampserver. It just worked and though it is based on Linux it actually installed everything you need to just get to work.
Just to give you background, I've been using Linux since kernel version 0.29 and I used minix before that. I know what I'm doing and I'm tired of working that hard to use my computer. At this point in time I can't recommend Linux to anyone that isn't in a graduate course for CS, a masochist hacker that doesn't mind arcane instructions to make, or a high end sysadmin who needs a virtualisation server architecture and eats breathes and dreams in HTML, PHP and HTTPD.conf files.
The only problem I have is that on Linux, when I hear about this fantastic package that supposedly runs on the distro du jour, I usually find that I have to download 5 or more different pieces of kit like libraries or audio driver special patches and low latency kernel patches then re-compile all of these with this switch set and hold my nose a certain way while tweaking this driver then recompile the kernel on Tuesday with my hair on fire then do it again Wednesday standing in a freezer. And when I finally get all that done I find that no one mentioned the package that already existed with half of it done for me but the other half is written in perl and then I have to update perl modules from some depository to the latest and greatest. Then the PHP modules required by the web interface aren't loaded by default and the PHP version is too advanced i have to install the old one but if I switch to this other distro all this other stuff is done then when I finally get all these ducks in a row my sound card isn't fully supported by any distro in existence so I switch to a USB sound card that is supposed to be universally supported except that the drivers are proprietary so they weren't actually included in my distro cause that gave somebody heartburn.
By the time I get it running I have to update the kernel again and that broke the drivers all over again.
So Sorry I'm saving up and buying the tools that have already been proven to work.
You are way too close to the trees to see even the small picture I'm afraid. Copyright isn't the problem. The application of copyright is the problem and lazy people that want everything for free and don't want to have to obey any laws no matter how fair. They would rather complain that somebody took away their free stuff than go out and change the laws. You guys have power but obviously don't know how to use it. Let me know when you wake up enough to want to change the picture at all and I'll begin to care about your issues.
You obviously don't know what fair use is. The broader implications are that if you only put text into the form that they own you only pay for what they own. This isn't a fair use issue it's a "I didn't follow the instructions and their dumb software charged me anyway" issue.
could lose 10 years of his freedom for providing the service of altering hardware.
Yeah he could lose 10 years of his life because he lost the gamble that he wouldn't be prosecuted for something he probably knew was illegal.
I don't understand the righteous indignation of law breakers caught breaking the law.
And before the anti-dmca idiots can say so, we live in a state that is governed by the rule of law.
Don't like the law? Then change it by any legal means available to you. But please quit bitching when someone gets arrested for breaking it.
Set up a fund for this guy's legal defense and try to take it to the supreme court but please enough with the crap.
Or perhaps it's important to be more cognizant of the fact that Jefferson's work is public domain and you may quote him at your leisure. If you let them claim the copyright who's more the fool. And if you quote before and after the Jefferson quote you still owe them money even for the part that is Jefferson's because they have created a derivative work that includes some public domain words but the whole is copyrightable and therefore I see no problem with their tool. I think this is a non story trumped up to get the blogger hits.
No I think you failed to grasp the stupidity of pasting text from something you "Know They Don't Own"(c) and then complaining to the world that they committed fraud by taking you're money. The directions clearly state that you should paste the text of their article that you wish to license. I wonder which word the genius didn't understand.
Send this genius to my website, I'll sell him a bridge I don't own. Who would be stupid enough to pay someone for word he knows they don't own. If I were AP I would have kept his money.
Apple is not original in this one, the car companies pioneered this. Followed closely by the insurance/Medical industry. Is it any wonder that lawyers get around.
Searching for blind replication at the best rate possible just feels empty.
Many a bachelor has discovered this some decide that it's ok and continue, others go looking for a trap and inevitably fall into it face first. Thus the system of marriage continues.
Well since I don't have the clout that the RIAA has and my lawyer costs me money, offering to take my $5000 instead of dragging me to court and having me spend perhaps far more than the $5000 to defend myself even if I am innocent of what they have accused. with two people with equal footing this would not be extortion, with this kind of David and Goliath mismatch it is pretty much is.
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Yeah kind of.
This is exactly the type of thing I'm talking about. Because everybody has their own pet project and their own pet installer or make tool and their own version of the GPL or maybe LGPL so even if I'm only using a library I have to consult a lawyer to see if I can write a program that I want to sell do I only have to release source to the parts I didn't write or do I have to include the parts I wrote also? oops forgot I was just trying to install the library.
Here is where I am. I really loved the early days and sometimes I still think I can get in there and work with this stuff. But after my last attempt to port an open source project to my mac I just gave up. In my day I wrote a FORTH interpreter for the 6502 in the Commodore 64, I ported GCC to the Amiga, I ported GCC to the 29000 processor running on an accelerator board in a mac. I'm not a stranger to installing massive amounts of libraries to get something running, I'm just tired of it.
Openoffice is a notable exception. But if you take a version of Red Hat Enterprise Linux say 5 or 6 and fail on install to tell it you want to have an HTTP server installed then later want one installed, well me and the Navy sysadmin gave up after an hour (we had all the CD's) and switched to Windows XP running wampserver. It just worked and though it is based on Linux it actually installed everything you need to just get to work.
Oh my spleen!
Just to give you background, I've been using Linux since kernel version 0.29 and I used minix before that. I know what I'm doing and I'm tired of working that hard to use my computer. At this point in time I can't recommend Linux to anyone that isn't in a graduate course for CS, a masochist hacker that doesn't mind arcane instructions to make, or a high end sysadmin who needs a virtualisation server architecture and eats breathes and dreams in HTML, PHP and HTTPD.conf files.
The only problem I have is that on Linux, when I hear about this fantastic package that supposedly runs on the distro du jour, I usually find that I have to download 5 or more different pieces of kit like libraries or audio driver special patches and low latency kernel patches then re-compile all of these with this switch set and hold my nose a certain way while tweaking this driver then recompile the kernel on Tuesday with my hair on fire then do it again Wednesday standing in a freezer. And when I finally get all that done I find that no one mentioned the package that already existed with half of it done for me but the other half is written in perl and then I have to update perl modules from some depository to the latest and greatest. Then the PHP modules required by the web interface aren't loaded by default and the PHP version is too advanced i have to install the old one but if I switch to this other distro all this other stuff is done then when I finally get all these ducks in a row my sound card isn't fully supported by any distro in existence so I switch to a USB sound card that is supposed to be universally supported except that the drivers are proprietary so they weren't actually included in my distro cause that gave somebody heartburn.
By the time I get it running I have to update the kernel again and that broke the drivers all over again.
So Sorry I'm saving up and buying the tools that have already been proven to work.
whooosh, left field much?
You are way too close to the trees to see even the small picture I'm afraid. Copyright isn't the problem. The application of copyright is the problem and lazy people that want everything for free and don't want to have to obey any laws no matter how fair. They would rather complain that somebody took away their free stuff than go out and change the laws. You guys have power but obviously don't know how to use it. Let me know when you wake up enough to want to change the picture at all and I'll begin to care about your issues.
You obviously don't know what fair use is. The broader implications are that if you only put text into the form that they own you only pay for what they own. This isn't a fair use issue it's a "I didn't follow the instructions and their dumb software charged me anyway" issue.
I mean what he did is worse then rape and murder to these soulless companies
this sentence has no syntactical meaning, I think you meant:
"I mean what he did is eorse THAN rape and murder to these soulless companies.
Please folks "then" is a sequence, "than" is a choice.
could lose 10 years of his freedom for providing the service of altering hardware.
Yeah he could lose 10 years of his life because he lost the gamble that he wouldn't be prosecuted for something he probably knew was illegal.
I don't understand the righteous indignation of law breakers caught breaking the law.
And before the anti-dmca idiots can say so, we live in a state that is governed by the rule of law.
Don't like the law? Then change it by any legal means available to you. But please quit bitching when someone gets arrested for breaking it.
Set up a fund for this guy's legal defense and try to take it to the supreme court but please enough with the crap.
Or perhaps it's important to be more cognizant of the fact that Jefferson's work is public domain and you may quote him at your leisure. If you let them claim the copyright who's more the fool. And if you quote before and after the Jefferson quote you still owe them money even for the part that is Jefferson's because they have created a derivative work that includes some public domain words but the whole is copyrightable and therefore I see no problem with their tool. I think this is a non story trumped up to get the blogger hits.
No I think you failed to grasp the stupidity of pasting text from something you "Know They Don't Own"(c) and then complaining to the world that they committed fraud by taking you're money. The directions clearly state that you should paste the text of their article that you wish to license. I wonder which word the genius didn't understand.
I see an idiot not following directions and getting what he deserved. I would have kept his money.
Here here, mod parent up. Stupid is as stupid does.
Why would you put words they don't own into their licensing software? Is it malice or stupidity on your part?
Why? Authors get paid by the word. What metric should they use?
Send this genius to my website, I'll sell him a bridge I don't own. Who would be stupid enough to pay someone for word he knows they don't own. If I were AP I would have kept his money.
Ok maybe not, but I'm just so tired of the iSuck name being misused.
Apple is not original in this one, the car companies pioneered this. Followed closely by the insurance/Medical industry. Is it any wonder that lawyers get around.
I I had a nickle for every post that said this I could buy the servers that run Slashdot.
They will make it illegal to wield a mirror any where near the white and red striped vehicles.
Searching for blind replication at the best rate possible just feels empty. Many a bachelor has discovered this some decide that it's ok and continue, others go looking for a trap and inevitably fall into it face first. Thus the system of marriage continues.
Well since I don't have the clout that the RIAA has and my lawyer costs me money, offering to take my $5000 instead of dragging me to court and having me spend perhaps far more than the $5000 to defend myself even if I am innocent of what they have accused. with two people with equal footing this would not be extortion, with this kind of David and Goliath mismatch it is pretty much is.