That post cites the MONEY the US has given to Israel... They may buy arms from the US with those funds, but, the US govt. is not directly selling or giving them any arms.
Riiiiighht. If I give you the money to buy something from me, then I haven't given you anything. That's actually the point you are trying to make? Did you think about it first, or just post without preview?
If Iraq hadn't invaded Kuwait, there likely wouldn't have been a US military presence in Saudi Arabia
How does the U.S. justify its involvement in the Iraq -vs- Kuwait situation versus it's support of Israel in the Israel -vs- Palestine situation? If they are going to be the world police they shouldn't be so obviously biased about it.
In any case, the current situation is exactly what people said would happen when they opposed the current Iraq war. It is also a great justification for Al Queda to exist. I find it strange how the "war on terror" is what gives them legitimacy, and their ability to draw in new recruits.
I think you've missed the point entirely. I don't care if they are purple and blue people fighting. My government has no business giving weapons to one side and not the other. It shouldn't give anything except food and medical supplies. It should not make rediculous statements about Israel's activities in Lebanon being "measured and justified", or about Israel being and "unconditional ally". We don't make friends with murderers.
Nobody said they were. Both sides behave like animals with no respect for life at all. Its disgusting behaviour and its disgusting that my government supports it.
I'm sure there are Jewish people in Israel who don't build settlements on palestinian lands, but they clearly support it. We know this not olnly from their own mouths but also from the fact that they sit by while it happens.
Sorry to muddy things up with the facts,... they largely exist because Saddam Hussein invaded Kuwait in the early 1990s
Say what?
al-Qaeda was established in either late 1989 or early 1990 to continue the jihad after the Soviet withdrawal from Afghanistan. He said during the war against the Soviets, bin Laden had been funding a group called Maktab al-Khadamat, which was led by Abdallah Azzam. This organization was based in Pakistan and provided training, money and other support for Muslims who would cross the border into Afghanistan to fight. According to al-Fadl, the Maktab al-Khadamat was disbanded following the Soviet withdrawal, but bin Laden wanted to establish a new group to continue the jihadist cause on other fronts. Al-Fadl testified that al-Qaeda's leader was initially Abu Ayoub al-Iraqi, who was later replaced by Abu Ubaidah al-Banshiri, but that both of these leaders nevertheless "reported to" bin-Laden. Al-Fadl claims the group initially went by two different names "al-Qaeda" and "Islamic Army", before eventually settling on the former. A meeting was apparently held in Khost, Afghanistan to establish the new group, which al-Fadl claims to have attended. Al-Fadl's recollection was that this occurred in either late 1989 or early 1990.
I've never heard anyone try to claim that Al Queda had anything to do with Iraq whatsoever until the U.S. invaded it after 9/11, and after invading Afghanistan.
Israel wouldn't be in Gaza if the Palestinians didn't start shooting ROCKETS into Israel first.
There was no Israel until terrorists created one. They kick people out of their homes, take their land and build settlements on them. What else can be done when the world actually supports them while they do it? The western world actually gives the weaponry to intimidate them with, and punish them when they resist.
The US wouldn't be in Afghanistan if the Taliban hadn't been the base of operations for Al Qaeda.
Al Queda wouldn't exist if the U.S. didn't use the middle east as a sandbox to pursue whatever agenda they decide is important. Be it the above mentioned support of Israel, or the pursuit of the previous boogy man, "the communists".
the US wouldn't be in Iraq if Saddam hadn't attempted to assasinate the president's father
Oh, so now thats the reason is it? At the time it was because they had WMDs. But that doesn't make any sense now does it, because we are the ones with the WMDs.
Everywhere you look, some whacked out group of Muslims are either A) Trying to kill people or B) Are actually celebrating the killing of some people.
You say that even now as white people in Israel slaughter innocent Palestinian people, and white people from the the U.S. and its allies slaughter innocent people in Afghanistan and Iraq. Are you trying to tell me that you haven't seen people celebrating the death and destruction in the middle east that is being done in retribution for what a few people did on 9/11? We make it sound very official, and people in suits pretend like they are making real tough decisions. At the end of the day, we killed more of them than they killed of us. We are the ones who are whacked out, and very few of us even realize it.
Just because you believe that everybody owning a handgun makes you safer, doesn't mean its true. Handguns have no place in our society unless you are out to rob a bank.
A government that fears guns in the hands of its people... should.
Right, because American gun ownership has obviously done wonders for stopping its government from harassing its citizens. Or maybe you'd just rather keep on thinking it has.
Well, if you're feeling really brave, why don't you try filling us in on the joys of drinking warm, flat beer? Or why sausage is called pudding? Ooh, or spotted dick - please explain that one. And haggis. Explain haggis! You can do it!
You have to base it on the exchange rate of when you received the fine
Well then it would be much more because at the time our dollar was worth more than yours. I don't think it really matters though, because they don't change the fines based on our dollar's worth that day. I just provided a point of reference as to what I would pay if I received that same ticket today.
It was a failed attempt at not confusing American readers. I'm starting to think this is an impossible thing to do.
havent figured out what kph are but are too lazy to look it up
It's the unit of measure for vehicular velocity that is used almost everywhere outside of the USA. Similar to mph (miles per hour), kph is Kilometres per hour.
how many times a week do you have to hit one of these things with a paintball before they're not cost-effective to maintain?
You don't think they will just raise the fines? You guys are apparently getting a hell of a deal already. I've never heard of a $40 fine from a camera. I've only ever had one of them for $227 ($185.68USD based on today's exchange rate) for doing 78 Kph in a 60 zone. They won't even send a ticket out for less than 11 or 12 Kph over the speed limit.
They are filthy rich camel jockeys who made their wealth by raping the rest of the world on oil... they don't care.
Funny how oil seems to be a common theme among places building climate controlled beaches. But they've had an air conditioned beach for quite some time now.
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Riiiiighht. If I give you the money to buy something from me, then I haven't given you anything. That's actually the point you are trying to make? Did you think about it first, or just post without preview?
Irrelevant? It was probably the reason that desert storm happened. It was a lie just like the WMDs were in desert storm 2 (the wrath of bush).
So obviously you think that we should have left Hitler alone and we wouldn't be in this mess.
Here is a good lesson in propaganda.
The crusades?
Just keep telling yourself that if it helps you sleep at night. And babies were removed from incubators right.
You and everyone who thinks like you disgusts me.
I hope some day you come to understand how to live in peace.
How does the U.S. justify its involvement in the Iraq -vs- Kuwait situation versus it's support of Israel in the Israel -vs- Palestine situation? If they are going to be the world police they shouldn't be so obviously biased about it.
In any case, the current situation is exactly what people said would happen when they opposed the current Iraq war. It is also a great justification for Al Queda to exist. I find it strange how the "war on terror" is what gives them legitimacy, and their ability to draw in new recruits.
Yes it is. The U.S. government calls it "humanitarian aid" in doublespeak.
I think you've missed the point entirely. I don't care if they are purple and blue people fighting. My government has no business giving weapons to one side and not the other. It shouldn't give anything except food and medical supplies. It should not make rediculous statements about Israel's activities in Lebanon being "measured and justified", or about Israel being and "unconditional ally". We don't make friends with murderers.
Nobody said they were. Both sides behave like animals with no respect for life at all. Its disgusting behaviour and its disgusting that my government supports it.
I'm sure there are Jewish people in Israel who don't build settlements on palestinian lands, but they clearly support it. We know this not olnly from their own mouths but also from the fact that they sit by while it happens.
Say what?
I've never heard anyone try to claim that Al Queda had anything to do with Iraq whatsoever until the U.S. invaded it after 9/11, and after invading Afghanistan.
There was no Israel until terrorists created one. They kick people out of their homes, take their land and build settlements on them. What else can be done when the world actually supports them while they do it? The western world actually gives the weaponry to intimidate them with, and punish them when they resist.
Al Queda wouldn't exist if the U.S. didn't use the middle east as a sandbox to pursue whatever agenda they decide is important. Be it the above mentioned support of Israel, or the pursuit of the previous boogy man, "the communists".
Oh, so now thats the reason is it? At the time it was because they had WMDs. But that doesn't make any sense now does it, because we are the ones with the WMDs.
Israelis only have a military because the U.S. bought them one.
You say that even now as white people in Israel slaughter innocent Palestinian people, and white people from the the U.S. and its allies slaughter innocent people in Afghanistan and Iraq. Are you trying to tell me that you haven't seen people celebrating the death and destruction in the middle east that is being done in retribution for what a few people did on 9/11? We make it sound very official, and people in suits pretend like they are making real tough decisions. At the end of the day, we killed more of them than they killed of us. We are the ones who are whacked out, and very few of us even realize it.
Just because you believe that everybody owning a handgun makes you safer, doesn't mean its true. Handguns have no place in our society unless you are out to rob a bank.
Right, because American gun ownership has obviously done wonders for stopping its government from harassing its citizens. Or maybe you'd just rather keep on thinking it has.
Why would I know anything about those things?
I see I've managed to confuse another one.
Ahh yes, USA's little wannabe buddy.
Well then it would be much more because at the time our dollar was worth more than yours. I don't think it really matters though, because they don't change the fines based on our dollar's worth that day. I just provided a point of reference as to what I would pay if I received that same ticket today.
It was a failed attempt at not confusing American readers. I'm starting to think this is an impossible thing to do.
It's the unit of measure for vehicular velocity that is used almost everywhere outside of the USA. Similar to mph (miles per hour), kph is Kilometres per hour.
You don't think they will just raise the fines? You guys are apparently getting a hell of a deal already. I've never heard of a $40 fine from a camera. I've only ever had one of them for $227 ($185.68USD based on today's exchange rate) for doing 78 Kph in a 60 zone. They won't even send a ticket out for less than 11 or 12 Kph over the speed limit.
That would place him firmly in category 4. People so stupid they shouldn't be allowed access to the internet.
Funny how oil seems to be a common theme among places building climate controlled beaches. But they've had an air conditioned beach for quite some time now.
I rely on reactionary moderation due to internet memes in order to bolster my ego you insensitive clod.