It raises the cost of burning fossil fuels *FOR US*. It LOWERS the cost for Russians and others
I'm not really all that concerned what Russia does, it's not on my conscience. The time for debate on this is over though. Kyoto is signed and ratified. It's international law. We get all upset when the Americans renege on their treaties, let's not be hypocritical about this. We have committed to reducing emissions by 6% by 2012. That's what we should do.
"We can participate in "emissions credits"... it does nothing at all to curb emissions."
Bullshit. If you raise the cost of burning fossil fuels, they become less attractive compared to other means. I think it's disgusting that people have two or three cars per family, drive to work and up to the corner store, etc..
Double the price of gasoline, and charge industry for their emissions. Economics are the only thing that will change us. Guilt hasn't worked for the last 30 years, and it won't in the next.
Do you even know what the Conservative party is proposing?
Yes. They are proposing that we ignore the Kyoto accord even though we are signatories to it, and instead we would rely on technology that doesn't yet exist, and hasn't been proven effective at all.
No one is going to emit it and then recapture it which in my opinion is a retarded idea in itself.
Yes they are. Burning fossil fuel emits CO2 among other things. The same byproducts are being produced, but instead we'll "recapture" them stick them underground and hope they stay where we put them.
And the CO2 that they're planning to capture is that generated by the oil and/or electricity production process, not from free air.
Speaking of electricity generation... Where does Alberta get off burning coal to product electricity with B.C. and Manitoba very close neighbours who produce more hydro electricity than than they can possibly use? That would be a great start if they just bought our excess hydro instead of burning fossil fuels. But they won't do that because coal is probably cheaper for them (at least in the short term). This is why we need Kyoto, to bump the cost of doing business with fossil fuels, and make the more environmentally friendly means of production more attractive.
Within the United States, formations in Ohio, Oklahoma and Michigan, among other sites, appear to hold promise for long-term CO2 storage underground.
So the plan is actually to stick this stuff in barrels and bury it?
Here in Canada, we've been hearing a lot about how the Conservatives plan to focus on capturing and sequestering carbon instead of actually reducing emissions, and living up to our Kyoto obligations. I think it might be a tiny bit shortsighted to think we can continue pumping this crap into the atmosphere at ever increasing rates, then capture it and stick it underground along with the nuclear waste and other garbage that we bury.
All that aside, isn't this a copyright case, though? SCO is claiming code was lifted straight off.
SCO claims different things depending on which day of the week it is. Sometimes they claim direct copying, sometimes they claim that IBM wasn't allowed to put their own code in Linux. Sometimes they claim "methods and concepts" means that everything that looks like Unix is theirs. Sometimes they claim up is down, and black is white.
Participating in a war in Afghanistan is not, IMO defence as we were never an Afghan target until we involved ourselves.
Actually it is. NATO has a requirement that if one of our allies is attacked, and wants us to join the fight, we have no choice in the matter. If we didn't honour our obligations and join the US in Afghanistan it would be very bad for our national defense. Iraq has never attacked the US, so we had a choice in that one.
It's the weekly speeches about how Israel is so great and wonderful and just, combined with the increase in military spending that scare me. Steven Harper is a nut job with far too much power already.
Yes. It happens every time the conservatives get in to power. The last one brought us "Free Trade", this one isn't quite sure how it's going to fuck things up just yet.
Content in the context of what we are talking about (the web) is anything that draws people to a site. If you think that services like GMail, Google Search, Google Mail, Google Groups, Youtube, Blogger, Google Reader, Google Talk, Google Docs & Spreadsheets, etc aren't content then you are mistaken. Think of the synonym "Substance". Google has lots of it.
And it's your professional opinion as a full time programmer that the GMail and Google Earth applications are useless and not copyrighted. Maybe you should look for a career that you know something about, like full time Slashdot troll.
last i checked photographs of land is considered copyrightable, and therefore.. content.
So if being copyrightable is your litmus test, then how do you claim that the GMail and the Google Earth program aren't content? They were written by programmers and their code is copyrighted.
I don't know about that. GMail, and Google Earth/Google Maps are very useful content. Sure, they are just another way to push more advertising, but it is content.
Well, you got marked Flamebait when you simply asked a question and didn't use any inflammatory language, so it looks like the consensus is they're bad.
Did you miss his vicious attack on our tradition of groupthink? Clearly he must be stopped or Slashdot is doomed.
The ssh/x response is horrible. I'd like to be able to shape the traffic so my ssh/x connection gets absolute priority with p2p using whatever is left. I wonder how other people are doing this.
Have you tried tunelling VNC over SSH instead of raw X?
ssh -L 5901:localhost:5900 user@somehost.com
Then back on the ssh client box, do "vncviewer:1" to connect to the vnc server running on the ssh server through the tunnel. Works great for me. Or add a line like this to ~/.ssh/config
Slashdot Mirror
What did you download? One of these ?
The Windows installer which includes Gtk+ is 11MB, and the one without is 5.5MB. Or it should be anyway. I don't see anything that is 27MB.
I'm not really all that concerned what Russia does, it's not on my conscience. The time for debate on this is over though. Kyoto is signed and ratified. It's international law. We get all upset when the Americans renege on their treaties, let's not be hypocritical about this. We have committed to reducing emissions by 6% by 2012. That's what we should do.
Bullshit. If you raise the cost of burning fossil fuels, they become less attractive compared to other means. I think it's disgusting that people have two or three cars per family, drive to work and up to the corner store, etc..
Double the price of gasoline, and charge industry for their emissions. Economics are the only thing that will change us. Guilt hasn't worked for the last 30 years, and it won't in the next.
Yes. They are proposing that we ignore the Kyoto accord even though we are signatories to it, and instead we would rely on technology that doesn't yet exist, and hasn't been proven effective at all.
Yes they are. Burning fossil fuel emits CO2 among other things. The same byproducts are being produced, but instead we'll "recapture" them stick them underground and hope they stay where we put them.
Speaking of electricity generation... Where does Alberta get off burning coal to product electricity with B.C. and Manitoba very close neighbours who produce more hydro electricity than than they can possibly use? That would be a great start if they just bought our excess hydro instead of burning fossil fuels. But they won't do that because coal is probably cheaper for them (at least in the short term). This is why we need Kyoto, to bump the cost of doing business with fossil fuels, and make the more environmentally friendly means of production more attractive.
So the plan is actually to stick this stuff in barrels and bury it?
Here in Canada, we've been hearing a lot about how the Conservatives plan to focus on capturing and sequestering carbon instead of actually reducing emissions, and living up to our Kyoto obligations. I think it might be a tiny bit shortsighted to think we can continue pumping this crap into the atmosphere at ever increasing rates, then capture it and stick it underground along with the nuclear waste and other garbage that we bury.
SCO claims different things depending on which day of the week it is. Sometimes they claim direct copying, sometimes they claim that IBM wasn't allowed to put their own code in Linux. Sometimes they claim "methods and concepts" means that everything that looks like Unix is theirs. Sometimes they claim up is down, and black is white.
Or maybe he's a zealous visionary. Why is that a bad thing?
Actually it is. NATO has a requirement that if one of our allies is attacked, and wants us to join the fight, we have no choice in the matter. If we didn't honour our obligations and join the US in Afghanistan it would be very bad for our national defense. Iraq has never attacked the US, so we had a choice in that one.
It's the weekly speeches about how Israel is so great and wonderful and just, combined with the increase in military spending that scare me. Steven Harper is a nut job with far too much power already.
Yes. It happens every time the conservatives get in to power. The last one brought us "Free Trade", this one isn't quite sure how it's going to fuck things up just yet.
Lets get back to Marijuana decriminalization. That was a fun one.
That was the Liberals, and they were obliged to by NATO.
Realistically? The best the NDP has ever done is 43 seats in 1988. What makes you think the NDP will get anywhere in 4 to 8 years?
I say we should cancel the NDP. It isn't a party if nobody shows up.
You say aggregation, I say service.
Content in the context of what we are talking about (the web) is anything that draws people to a site. If you think that services like GMail, Google Search, Google Mail, Google Groups, Youtube, Blogger, Google Reader, Google Talk, Google Docs & Spreadsheets, etc aren't content then you are mistaken. Think of the synonym "Substance". Google has lots of it.
And it's your professional opinion as a full time programmer that the GMail and Google Earth applications are useless and not copyrighted. Maybe you should look for a career that you know something about, like full time Slashdot troll.
We've already established that you aren't an authority on the subject. You'll have to do better than that.
So if being copyrightable is your litmus test, then how do you claim that the GMail and the Google Earth program aren't content? They were written by programmers and their code is copyrighted.
Google Maps is original content? You heard it here first. Neoform declares Google is God who created heaven and Earth.
So you are saying that GMail, and the UI that drives Google Earth are useless?
There is a lot of code that makes up those applications. Somebody wrote all that stuff.
Under what definition is it not? Your definition includes html, but not javascript, java, perl, python, etc?
Yes it does. It's an application, and a very useful one. That is "content".
I don't know about that. GMail, and Google Earth/Google Maps are very useful content. Sure, they are just another way to push more advertising, but it is content.
Did you miss his vicious attack on our tradition of groupthink? Clearly he must be stopped or Slashdot is doomed.
Have you tried tunelling VNC over SSH instead of raw X?
Then back on the ssh client box, do "vncviewer
And the tunnel will get set up each time you connect automatically.