We, humans, know that god is fiction because he is OUR fiction. We invented him. We made him up. I would say that Dude-God Jehova Heebus Krishna is fiction. But not necessarily people's concept of a god. But specific gods pretty much don't exist, I think, unless the descriptions are accepted as being metaphorical.
Nobody said that God's existence was fact, just that the the idea that he doesn't exist ISN'T fact, something you don't address directly. If a god's non-existence is fact, you are using bad science. The existence or non-existence of god isn't a logical debate, and it's not scientific, so asking for a scientific explanation for it is like asking a doctor to look at your car.
The big bang doesn't exist much either, from what I can tell. Not to piss anybody off here, but my acceptance of the big bang is based entirely upon faith of mathematics, and from what I understand, a branch of mathematics that isn't incontrovertible. But I think Dude-God's funny, because he doesn't make any sense.
Has anyone commenting on this even bothered to look at the video of the product on the last page?
To suggest that this product is "better" than the iPhone is ridiculous.
If one were to RTFA, one would realize that this is not, in fact, the phone of which the article writer speaks. Rather, it's that P168 thingy that a friend of his had gotten his hands on.
While you're at it, check out the other phone they mention in TFA http://www.htctouch.com/ . It's somewhat different from the iPhone, and probably lb for lb not the same functionality (like you have to press a button to rotate the screen rather than flick the phone uncomfortably hard), but independently of the iPhone, their website demonstrates a very impressive product.
Yet you omit it here. I wasn't working on the server that was performing the SP2 installation. Fancy that. I'll be happy to email it to you when I am.
What about the MB? Are you sure your IDE / SATA controller isn't dying? You didn't rule out hardware here, you ruled out a few things. It could be a faulty power supply. I left out the system burn-in I ran, which however inconclusive, is pretty decent. I'm not sure about the IDE or SATA controllers, but I've been chasing down this bullcrap as I have things to chase down, then I have to wait a day (or two, if for some reason I can't stay up till 2am that day) to troubleshoot it. Replacing the motherboard and PSU is the next damn thing to do.
Well if you think an SBS server running a doctors office and many Win2k3 servers running a medium sized business isn't mission critical, then I guess you have a point. We've also recently begun pushing updates to our workstations via WSUS as well. Not one reported problem. I apologize. You didn't give that impression in your previous post.
1. Computers cost $300 nowadays, and Linux runs better than other current OSes on them. 2. Apple uses proprietary hardware. Your father had to CHOOSE. You can run Linux right beside Windows. You can run Windows INSIDE Linux. (which now you can do that on an Apple as well, but not back then)
These two facts alone mean that a kid can get his OWN computer for Christmas, or just ask his dad if he can steal 50GB of the 250GB hard drive on the Intel Core2Extreme wind-tunnel he bought because he wanted to make sure that it would live up to his word-processing expectations. And maybe he'll get around to making a home video.
But the point is, the terrain is different, the arguments are different. Joo wrong, dude. Or, joo right, but not right now.
I work with MS products everyday, and nothing has broken as a result of a SP or even update for quite a while now. Well, I'm sitting in a client's office after working from 3-11pm on another job finally getting (I hope) a spontaneous reboot issue on an SBS 2003 install resolved. I have Calyx Point Data Server installed, and it runs a file server. I've had automatic updates disabled FOREVER. I haven't run any windows updates in about 6 months (maybe a year?).
Fucking thing reboots 1 to 5 times a day, but only when people are logged on. No memory dumps, no error thrown until tonight, for a problem that started last Saturday, July 28th. I thought it was a problem with PDS, because there's quite freaking often a problem with PDS, frankly. Nope. I've uninstalled all applications and utilities that are no longer in use. I've disabled all services that I'm sure I can disable without adverse reactions. I've tracked down every stupid little warning having in the event log. I've swapped out the CPU, tested the RAM, switched the NIC to another PCI slot, unmirrored the data drive and disconnected one of the mirrors.
Tonight, I took the problem ID I finally got, and supposedly it's a (somewhat) known problem (that doesn't come up when you search the MS KB) with SP1 on 2k3. Which is odd, considering I've been running on it for at least 6 months without travesty, but hey. I'm just a cave man.
But really. If none of your shit breaks from an update or an upgrade, you're lucky, or doing nothing mission-critical. You may also not notice the problems if you update frequently, because you're moving on to hotfix(snap) to hotfix(*sproiiing!*). To hotfix. Also, if you have autoupdates enabled, you have no idea what's breaking what. AND, if you just use your computer for internet and porn, you are in no position to discuss what may or may not be broken.
In fact, to paraphrase Donald Rumsfeld, YOUR absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence. My evidence will kick your lack of evidence's ass across the room any day.
For me personally, the scariest thing isn't them developing an accurate profile, but an inaccurate one and it spreading to potential employers, etc, if they ever attach my name to it. You'll never work at Hooters again.
So what you're saying is that it would have been better if your friend had never done ANY drugs? Well, no. I don't think the coffee hurt him much. Or the aspirin. Or the cough medicine, even that one time it was taken in high dosage. In fact, the one time he did E probably didn't hurt him that much either. And the weed was actually not very bad either. The alcohol and cigarettes I suppose he could have done without, given the sense of helplessness they tend to engender. Um... I think the mushrooms were ok, too, since it never turned into a problem.
But probably, if he had actually been more committed to weed, he wouldn't have developed a crystal meth problem, given how the crystal meth makes you manic no matter what, and the weed makes you tired if you're tired, and feel pain if you've been beating yourself up. So I think if he had stuck with coffee, weed, and occasionally mushrooms, he would be fine right now.
So, really, the moral of the story is that land developers should be strung up by their testicles for destroying my home, and we should make weed legal. And there's this guy named David for whom I have little compassion. In fact, there are TWO guys named David for whom I have little compassion. Which I think is ironic, since my name is Nathan. And yes, I taught those motherfuckers a lesson apiece.:-)
In other word, the universe would be an infinite series of isolated island of life. Right. I agree that this is the most probable conclusion, unless they have super-geek mind rays.
Which is why it bothers me when people use the "if aliens are here, why haven't astronomers seen them?" The answer is obviously that goddammit, if aliens ARE here, they've got unfathomable mind-rays, and neuro-rainbow lasers, and shag carpet waves and things like that. So it's really hard to debate when the numbers are so tiny (or so large).
And all I'm saying about the 10k years thing is that really, do you think that if we survive another 10k years, we'll stop being afraid of other beings? I bet tigers will still eat us, for example. I don't know. I always love the alien argument, because nobody can ever be conclusively wrong.:-)
Cigarettes are a killer. Heroin is harmless. I don't understand your rating system! Just my personal estimation from what I see and hear. I know cigs are a killer, but at least it takes a very very long time, and you can be a part of society relatively easily. I find them disturbing. Maybe they should get bumped to 3 or 4, though. But then, I guess I'm talking cigs without all the chemicals added, too. Which is not what people smoke.
This is a false comparison I agree with your post, but I was responding to the parent. I'm just saying that the someone to sue argument doesn't hold up, because proprietary software built on Linux will be well supported or not, just as proprietary software built on Windows will be (or not). The suing of the OS company will never go over well, because they will ask about hardware, configuration, network layout, ISP, electrical ratings, etc.
The point of "free" software is not "free of cost" its "free market". Right, unless you're poor (like outside the US poor), which I agree that in our context does not apply. I just thought it worth mentioning.
The paradox is that if they have a few thousand or hundred of thousand year ahead of us, then they should have at least by probe or similarly conquered or explored this galaxy, or send a lot of radio signal. My girlfriend pointed out that we've been analyzing for hydrogen based signals, because it's the easiest to produce, and we've found nothing. And then it came out in the conversation that WE'RE not sending out signals because we don't want to be found because we're not advanced enough to protect ourselves from someone who could find us.
Ahem. So in 10k years, we'll be advanced enough to defend ourselves from these theoretical people who are 10k years ahead of us? Will their civilization stop advancing, and we'll catch up? How about maybe aliens aren't sending out signals either?
How about maybe, just maybe, the way we developed science is not very efficient afterall in the grand scheme of things?
I love it when people argue the existence or non-existence of super-advanced beings based on our assumptions about how right we are about everything.
To play devil's advocate, the terminals at a local Best Buy run Windows, as do the ATM at one of the local banks and I remember the screen on one of the gas station pumps was using IE to display images. Right, but I was arguing that Linux IS in fact gaining market share. The IBM Linux marketing push is relatively new (3-4 years?), and the Circuit City roll-out is happening right now. I bet that those terminals have been on a flavor of Windows for a damn while.
Have you used proprietary software before such as Calyx Point? We asked them if they had a feature in their application before we migrated from a Linux fileserver to a Win2k3 fileserver/Point Data Server, and they said Yes they do. Turns out, that feature was a bug, because it got "fixed" at the next (mandatory, due to updating laws) upgrade.
One upgrade, I reported (scratch that, I had to explain it to the call center guy) 3 bugs in their software. I have waited for support for over an hour before I hung up. In fact, the last couple times I've called, I've had to hang up before a person answers. Last couple emails I've sent have gone unanswered.
You know who's fucked? Me. You think I can convince them to switch apps? Haha haha ha. ha.
"That's all fine and good, but when the software we're going to use breaks, we'll have someone to sue over it." MS's licenses specifically state that the operating system is not guaranteed to work for any purpose. You could at least write an angry letter to Linus Torvalds and he'll usenet how stupid you are.:-)
'Oh that's strange I looks fine on my computer" You know, I discovered after being in Linux for like 3 years that if you select all the text and change it to Times New Roman or to Arial, it generally will display the same. It seems for some reason OO replaces the fonts even if you have them installed.
I don't think its any stretch of the imagination to say linux is the most widely installed general purpose OS (I bet you run it on your router without even knowing)
LIAR!!! *sobs* YOU TAKE THAT BACK!!! (I in fact installed the current distro on my router, please)
The evidence speaks for itself: Linux can't even capture market share with its software by giving it away for free. Go to Circuit city, and look at all the new IBM terminals littered through the store. Linux. Go to Brazil, and all their fucking ATMs? Linux. "Linux" can't capture market share because "Linux" isn't a singular entity.
In any other business on Earth, if you can't capture your competitor's customers by making your products free, it means there is something seriously,seriously wrong with your product. Ask Judd if Arch Linux is a failure. It runs on all his servers, and plenty of other people's servers, too. Ubuntu is capturing market share. Just because you define market share as how often you think about different products doesn't make it so.
Call me names all you want, it won't make your wishful thinking a reality. Nor does anything you do make YOUR wishful thinking reality.
I'm reasonably computer savvy, but the partition utility left far too many unanswered questions:
Doesn't it have a selection that's labelled "Recommended" that says automatically resize Windows partition and migrate data? Why not try this recommended option?
And, as many point out, you use Windows because it's preinstalled. You would struggle more with the Windows (pre-vista, anyway) install than the Ubuntu install, because they just drop you in a text-based menu where you can delete and create partitions.
But Linux is on everyone's radar scope (it's unusual not to hear it's deployment discussed in IT meetings), and the small holes in the dams are beginning to outnumber Ballmer's fingers.
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OMG...I'd upgrade to Windows PecanPie ANY DAY.... /drools
pecan pieeee....
Yeah, unfortunately, it's full of bugs.
*snortle*
Car analogy, paragraph 2! I totally missed it.
WOOOOOOOOOOT!
We, humans, know that god is fiction because he is OUR fiction. We invented him. We made him up.
I would say that Dude-God Jehova Heebus Krishna is fiction. But not necessarily people's concept of a god. But specific gods pretty much don't exist, I think, unless the descriptions are accepted as being metaphorical.
Nobody said that God's existence was fact, just that the the idea that he doesn't exist ISN'T fact, something you don't address directly. If a god's non-existence is fact, you are using bad science. The existence or non-existence of god isn't a logical debate, and it's not scientific, so asking for a scientific explanation for it is like asking a doctor to look at your car.
The big bang doesn't exist much either, from what I can tell. Not to piss anybody off here, but my acceptance of the big bang is based entirely upon faith of mathematics, and from what I understand, a branch of mathematics that isn't incontrovertible. But I think Dude-God's funny, because he doesn't make any sense.
i don't mean that you'd be an idiot for being a mac person, but that x86 cpu particulars would slip your mind. :D
Apparently you're a mac person, so it's understandable.
If one were to RTFA, one would realize that this is not, in fact, the phone of which the article writer speaks. Rather, it's that P168 thingy that a friend of his had gotten his hands on.
While you're at it, check out the other phone they mention in TFA http://www.htctouch.com/ . It's somewhat different from the iPhone, and probably lb for lb not the same functionality (like you have to press a button to rotate the screen rather than flick the phone uncomfortably hard), but independently of the iPhone, their website demonstrates a very impressive product.
so nyeah.
Yet you omit it here.
I wasn't working on the server that was performing the SP2 installation. Fancy that. I'll be happy to email it to you when I am.
What about the MB? Are you sure your IDE / SATA controller isn't dying? You didn't rule out hardware here, you ruled out a few things. It could be a faulty power supply.
I left out the system burn-in I ran, which however inconclusive, is pretty decent. I'm not sure about the IDE or SATA controllers, but I've been chasing down this bullcrap as I have things to chase down, then I have to wait a day (or two, if for some reason I can't stay up till 2am that day) to troubleshoot it. Replacing the motherboard and PSU is the next damn thing to do.
Well if you think an SBS server running a doctors office and many Win2k3 servers running a medium sized business isn't mission critical, then I guess you have a point. We've also recently begun pushing updates to our workstations via WSUS as well. Not one reported problem.
I apologize. You didn't give that impression in your previous post.
1. Computers cost $300 nowadays, and Linux runs better than other current OSes on them.
2. Apple uses proprietary hardware. Your father had to CHOOSE. You can run Linux right beside Windows. You can run Windows INSIDE Linux. (which now you can do that on an Apple as well, but not back then)
These two facts alone mean that a kid can get his OWN computer for Christmas, or just ask his dad if he can steal 50GB of the 250GB hard drive on the Intel Core2Extreme wind-tunnel he bought because he wanted to make sure that it would live up to his word-processing expectations. And maybe he'll get around to making a home video.
But the point is, the terrain is different, the arguments are different. Joo wrong, dude. Or, joo right, but not right now.
Upon review, I've concluded that it's actually easier to post a snarky comment on slashdot, and let someone else figure the effing thing out FOR you.
For me personally, the scariest thing isn't them developing an accurate profile, but an inaccurate one and it spreading to potential employers, etc, if they ever attach my name to it.
You'll never work at Hooters again.
So what you're saying is that it would have been better if your friend had never done ANY drugs?
:-)
Well, no. I don't think the coffee hurt him much. Or the aspirin. Or the cough medicine, even that one time it was taken in high dosage. In fact, the one time he did E probably didn't hurt him that much either. And the weed was actually not very bad either. The alcohol and cigarettes I suppose he could have done without, given the sense of helplessness they tend to engender. Um... I think the mushrooms were ok, too, since it never turned into a problem.
But probably, if he had actually been more committed to weed, he wouldn't have developed a crystal meth problem, given how the crystal meth makes you manic no matter what, and the weed makes you tired if you're tired, and feel pain if you've been beating yourself up. So I think if he had stuck with coffee, weed, and occasionally mushrooms, he would be fine right now.
So, really, the moral of the story is that land developers should be strung up by their testicles for destroying my home, and we should make weed legal. And there's this guy named David for whom I have little compassion. In fact, there are TWO guys named David for whom I have little compassion. Which I think is ironic, since my name is Nathan. And yes, I taught those motherfuckers a lesson apiece.
In other word, the universe would be an infinite series of isolated island of life.
:-)
Right. I agree that this is the most probable conclusion, unless they have super-geek mind rays.
Which is why it bothers me when people use the "if aliens are here, why haven't astronomers seen them?" The answer is obviously that goddammit, if aliens ARE here, they've got unfathomable mind-rays, and neuro-rainbow lasers, and shag carpet waves and things like that. So it's really hard to debate when the numbers are so tiny (or so large).
And all I'm saying about the 10k years thing is that really, do you think that if we survive another 10k years, we'll stop being afraid of other beings? I bet tigers will still eat us, for example. I don't know. I always love the alien argument, because nobody can ever be conclusively wrong.
Cigarettes are a killer. Heroin is harmless. I don't understand your rating system!
Just my personal estimation from what I see and hear. I know cigs are a killer, but at least it takes a very very long time, and you can be a part of society relatively easily. I find them disturbing. Maybe they should get bumped to 3 or 4, though. But then, I guess I'm talking cigs without all the chemicals added, too. Which is not what people smoke.
This is a false comparison
I agree with your post, but I was responding to the parent. I'm just saying that the someone to sue argument doesn't hold up, because proprietary software built on Linux will be well supported or not, just as proprietary software built on Windows will be (or not). The suing of the OS company will never go over well, because they will ask about hardware, configuration, network layout, ISP, electrical ratings, etc.
The point of "free" software is not "free of cost" its "free market".
Right, unless you're poor (like outside the US poor), which I agree that in our context does not apply. I just thought it worth mentioning.
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The paradox is that if they have a few thousand or hundred of thousand year ahead of us, then they should have at least by probe or similarly conquered or explored this galaxy, or send a lot of radio signal.
My girlfriend pointed out that we've been analyzing for hydrogen based signals, because it's the easiest to produce, and we've found nothing. And then it came out in the conversation that WE'RE not sending out signals because we don't want to be found because we're not advanced enough to protect ourselves from someone who could find us.
Ahem. So in 10k years, we'll be advanced enough to defend ourselves from these theoretical people who are 10k years ahead of us? Will their civilization stop advancing, and we'll catch up? How about maybe aliens aren't sending out signals either?
How about maybe, just maybe, the way we developed science is not very efficient afterall in the grand scheme of things?
I love it when people argue the existence or non-existence of super-advanced beings based on our assumptions about how right we are about everything.
To play devil's advocate, the terminals at a local Best Buy run Windows, as do the ATM at one of the local banks and I remember the screen on one of the gas station pumps was using IE to display images.
Right, but I was arguing that Linux IS in fact gaining market share. The IBM Linux marketing push is relatively new (3-4 years?), and the Circuit City roll-out is happening right now. I bet that those terminals have been on a flavor of Windows for a damn while.
Have you used proprietary software before such as Calyx Point? We asked them if they had a feature in their application before we migrated from a Linux fileserver to a Win2k3 fileserver/Point Data Server, and they said Yes they do. Turns out, that feature was a bug, because it got "fixed" at the next (mandatory, due to updating laws) upgrade.
One upgrade, I reported (scratch that, I had to explain it to the call center guy) 3 bugs in their software. I have waited for support for over an hour before I hung up. In fact, the last couple times I've called, I've had to hang up before a person answers. Last couple emails I've sent have gone unanswered.
You know who's fucked? Me. You think I can convince them to switch apps? Haha haha ha. ha.
"That's all fine and good, but when the software we're going to use breaks, we'll have someone to sue over it." :-)
MS's licenses specifically state that the operating system is not guaranteed to work for any purpose. You could at least write an angry letter to Linus Torvalds and he'll usenet how stupid you are.
I like Linux, btw.
'Oh that's strange I looks fine on my computer"
You know, I discovered after being in Linux for like 3 years that if you select all the text and change it to Times New Roman or to Arial, it generally will display the same. It seems for some reason OO replaces the fonts even if you have them installed.
I don't think its any stretch of the imagination to say linux is the most widely installed general purpose OS (I bet you run it on your router without even knowing)
LIAR!!! *sobs* YOU TAKE THAT BACK!!!
(I in fact installed the current distro on my router, please)
The evidence speaks for itself: Linux can't even capture market share with its software by giving it away for free.
Go to Circuit city, and look at all the new IBM terminals littered through the store. Linux. Go to Brazil, and all their fucking ATMs? Linux. "Linux" can't capture market share because "Linux" isn't a singular entity.
In any other business on Earth, if you can't capture your competitor's customers by making your products free, it means there is something seriously,seriously wrong with your product.
Ask Judd if Arch Linux is a failure. It runs on all his servers, and plenty of other people's servers, too. Ubuntu is capturing market share. Just because you define market share as how often you think about different products doesn't make it so.
Call me names all you want, it won't make your wishful thinking a reality.
Nor does anything you do make YOUR wishful thinking reality.
I'm reasonably computer savvy, but the partition utility left far too many unanswered questions:
Doesn't it have a selection that's labelled "Recommended" that says automatically resize Windows partition and migrate data? Why not try this recommended option?
And, as many point out, you use Windows because it's preinstalled. You would struggle more with the Windows (pre-vista, anyway) install than the Ubuntu install, because they just drop you in a text-based menu where you can delete and create partitions.
But Linux is on everyone's radar scope (it's unusual not to hear it's deployment discussed in IT meetings), and the small holes in the dams are beginning to outnumber Ballmer's fingers.
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