There are many ways to make hydrogen, however the most earth shaking is the newest one where Enzymes and Algae can make hydrogen so cheaply it is hard to believe.
Hydrogenases under nutrient stress conditions It has been demonstrated that under conditions of oxygen shortage, Chlamydomonas reinhardtii cells switch to fermentative metabolism within minutes. C. reinhardtii cultures produce large amounts of H2 gas when experiencing sulfur deprivation, and although the conditions of nutrient stress cannot be examined independently of anoxic conditions, the authors describe metabolic events that lead to the enhanced production of hydrogen. When nutrients such as sulfur are severely limiting, the operation of the Photosystem II and thus production of oxygen slows. Respiration continues to consume oxygen and the photosystem I pathway does not slow greatly. Electrons released from the degradation of starch, proteins or lipids can be fed into the plastoquinone pool by NADPH reductase. Electrons are delivered to [Fe]-hydrogenases, leading to abundant hydrogen gas production. The authors state that the hydrogenase thus acts as an electron valve under these conditions to prevent oxidative damage to cell components.
Some of Nikola Telsa's patents were prior to 1900, the patent office has been around ALOT longer than you think.
http://techweb.ceat.okstate.edu/ias/firstpatent. ht m
Also as to your statement concerning ford and cars, a 15% change in form or function of a patented device is grounds for a new patent.
Intellectual Property gets more into the abstract thought ownership, and is the current source of alot of discontent.
Peace, Ex-MislTech
>As much as Microsoft is likely wrong in this situation.... it shows >more of the woes of software patents. It's too late for us in the >US, but for those of you in Europe.... write your... uhhh, Europie >Congressperson....
>If software patents were legal at the turn of the century, Ford >would be the only car company in the world.
A piece of evidence to this fact is a "special" city that has been setup in California called the city of industry.
It has special tax laws, and special inventory exclusion laws to provide corporations shipping entire cargo container ship loads of materials through that port.
Other places like the "city of industry" in california are being setup in other states as well.
So tax dollars corporations used to pay are now bypassed by some greased palms, and some sleazy government approved accounting.
Meanwhile in the fallout of the DOT BOMB days the common man is going to be stuck holding the bill and we get to pay for what the Corps "used to pay".
You will see more and more of this as time goes on.
Keep in mind in Norman Mattloff's speech to the house and senate, that he knows they were paid off to the tune of $22 million to up the H1-b visa limit after the economy was already seen going south.
The Senate in one of the most lopsided votes in history voted like 97 or 98 to 1 in favor of doubling the h1-b visa cap.
If you think that is bad, there are NO LIMITS on L1 visa workers, and ppl like Tancredo in colorado and a cpl of Reps out of Connecticut are about the only ppl raising hell over their voters losing their jobs, their homes, and their cars.
It is one thing to tell ppl they need to change their lifestyle and sell off all their over priced garbage, but to spring it on them with no notice and bankrupt them is another.
This bankruptcy burden has a ripple effect that will move thru the entire economy.
You think it is bad now, just wait a few years if they keep flooding in millions of legal and illegal workers.
In Texas construction workers are about 80% illegals and the government even knows it, and some of bushes staff even had some employed working for them.
Tancredo from colorado is trying to fix it, but to be honest apathy is king in america these days.
Nobody gives a damn anymore, because everyone feels no one gives a damn about them , maybe they are right.
Well I guess we would not make satellites either, it would be too vulnerable a target....hey wait a minute....
Whether something is vulnerable or not has little bearing on whether it will be pursued.
The ISS was vulnerable to micro meteors travelling at horrific speeds, yet it went up . Same with HST.
He3 is reason enough alone to send remote control mining to the moon.
I think we should delay sending man til the robots build it and test it thoroughly.
They do not need food, water, or air, just solar power and spare parts.
I say we start it now as a economic stimulus.
Supposedly there is over $100 trillion USD worth of He3 up there.
That is a good enough reason for me.
That would more than cover the cost of the robot portion of the project, and as cold as it is on the darkside we get free cryrogenics for superconductors.
The solar panels would work even better.
Satellites could largely be built and launched from the moon for much less by robots.
Spacecraft to travel to mars could be built and launched for the moon for much less.
Slashdot Mirror
Got some news for ya ....
t ml
http://www.21stcenturyradio.com/NP02-24-2000c.h
Peace,
Ex-MislTech
Maybe you are a verbally abusive flinger of expletives ...
t ml
http://www.21stcenturyradio.com/NP02-24-2000c.h
Peace,
Ex-MislTech
How to get cheap Hydrogen:
s /h ydrogen000222.html
http://abcnews.go.com/sections/science/DailyNew
Peace,
Ex-MislTech
The death of oil is near
s /h ydrogen000222.html
.
http://abcnews.go.com/sections/science/DailyNew
We will still use it for plastics, but we will not
need foreign oil
Peace,
Ex-MislTech
The death of oil may be sooner than expected :
s /h ydrogen000222.html
.
http://abcnews.go.com/sections/science/DailyNew
We will still use it for plastics, but we will not
need middle eastern oil
Peace,
Ex-MislTech
Good post man, chk this out, Hydrogen from Algae and Sunlight .
s /h ydrogen000222.html
http://abcnews.go.com/sections/science/DailyNew
Peace,
Ex-MislTech
Hydrogen from Algae and Sunlight
s /h ydrogen000222.html
http://abcnews.go.com/sections/science/DailyNew
Peace,
Ex-MislTech
The energy will have to come from something, and .
s /h ydrogen000222.html
it appears some bright ppl have solved that problem
http://abcnews.go.com/sections/science/DailyNew
Peace,
Ex-MislTech
How long is it going to last ???
.
:
s /h ydrogen000222.html
Well this will not end it, but it is going to
surely have an affect on it
Hydrogen from Algae
http://abcnews.go.com/sections/science/DailyNew
Peace,
Ex-MislTech
The soon to be cheaply made fuel of the future .
.
s /h ydrogen000222.html
From pond scum, LOL
http://abcnews.go.com/sections/science/DailyNew
Peace,
Ex-MislTech
http://abcnews.go.com/sections/science/DailyNews/h ydrogen000222.html
Peace,
Ex-MislTech
http://abcnews.go.com/sections/science/DailyNews/h ydrogen000222.html
Peace,
Ex-MislTech
A cheaper way to get hydrogen has been discovered :
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Hehehe,
Enzymes and Algae can make hydrogen so cheaply it is hard to believe
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=83454&cid=7
Peace,
Ex-MislTech
Hehehe,
.
3 01 320
There are many ways to make hydrogen, however the most
earth shaking is the newest one where Enzymes and Algae
can make hydrogen so cheaply it is hard to believe
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=83454&cid=7
Peace,
Ex-MislTech
Here is some good US info on Ethanol :
:
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http://www.ethanol-gec.org/03242000.htm
Here is some good info on how hydrogen can be made
by Algae and Enzymes
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=83454&cid=7
Peace,
Ex-MislTech
fuel cells can replace oil, here is how :
3 01 320
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=83454&cid=7
Peace,
Ex-MislTech
Its funny the article mentions enzymes in plant material .
.
t /R eview%20of%20the%20week/Prospect%20of%20Hydrogen_P roduction%20in%20Green_Algae.htm
to make cheaper bio ethanol
Enzymes allow the algae to make this cheap hydrogen
http://www.esb.utexas.edu/islam/_private/conten
Excerpt:
Hydrogenases under nutrient stress conditions
It has been demonstrated that under conditions of oxygen shortage, Chlamydomonas reinhardtii cells switch to fermentative metabolism within minutes. C. reinhardtii cultures produce large amounts of H2 gas when experiencing sulfur deprivation, and although the conditions of nutrient stress cannot be examined independently of anoxic conditions, the authors describe metabolic events that lead to the enhanced production of hydrogen. When nutrients such as sulfur are severely limiting, the operation of the Photosystem II and thus production of oxygen slows. Respiration continues to consume oxygen and the photosystem I pathway does not slow greatly. Electrons released from the degradation of starch, proteins or lipids can be fed into the plastoquinone pool by NADPH reductase. Electrons are delivered to [Fe]-hydrogenases, leading to abundant hydrogen gas production. The authors state that the hydrogenase thus acts as an electron valve under these conditions to prevent oxidative damage to cell components.
Peace,
Ex-MislTech
Some of Nikola Telsa's patents were prior to 1900, .
. ht m
.
.
the patent office has been around ALOT longer than
you think
http://techweb.ceat.okstate.edu/ias/firstpatent
Also as to your statement concerning ford and cars,
a 15% change in form or function of a patented device
is grounds for a new patent
Intellectual Property gets more into the abstract
thought ownership, and is the current source of alot
of discontent
Peace,
Ex-MislTech
>As much as Microsoft is likely wrong in this situation.... it shows >more of the woes of software patents. It's too late for us in the >US, but for those of you in Europe.... write your... uhhh, Europie >Congressperson....
>If software patents were legal at the turn of the century, Ford >would be the only car company in the world.
M$'s e-mail shuffle bubble was burst .
Peace,
Ex-MislTech
but your e-mail address is not listed .
.
.
.
.
.
.
h oo.com
I want to thank you for bringing together alot of ideas
I have been running around in my head for some time
I intend to follow your advice and I know it will help
a great deal
I have done alot of these at different times, and seen
minor spikes of success on my own
I never put it all together, and I did not stick to it
I eventually just got a job somewhere
Thanks for the wake up call
Peace,
Ex-MislTech
Ex_MislTechNOSPAM@NOSPAMya
A piece of evidence to this fact is a "special" city .
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
that has been setup in California called the city of industry
It has special tax laws, and special inventory exclusion laws
to provide corporations shipping entire cargo container
ship loads of materials through that port
Other places like the "city of industry" in california are
being setup in other states as well
So tax dollars corporations used to pay are now bypassed
by some greased palms, and some sleazy government approved
accounting
Meanwhile in the fallout of the DOT BOMB days the common
man is going to be stuck holding the bill and we get to
pay for what the Corps "used to pay"
You will see more and more of this as time goes on
Keep in mind in Norman Mattloff's speech to the house and
senate, that he knows they were paid off to the tune of
$22 million to up the H1-b visa limit after the economy
was already seen going south
The Senate in one of the most lopsided votes in history
voted like 97 or 98 to 1 in favor of doubling the h1-b
visa cap
If you think that is bad, there are NO LIMITS on L1 visa
workers, and ppl like Tancredo in colorado and a cpl of
Reps out of Connecticut are about the only ppl raising
hell over their voters losing their jobs, their homes,
and their cars
It is one thing to tell ppl they need to change their lifestyle
and sell off all their over priced garbage, but to spring
it on them with no notice and bankrupt them is another
This bankruptcy burden has a ripple effect that will move
thru the entire economy
You think it is bad now, just wait a few years if they keep
flooding in millions of legal and illegal workers
In Texas construction workers are about 80% illegals and the
government even knows it, and some of bushes staff even had
some employed working for them
Tancredo from colorado is trying to fix it, but to be honest
apathy is king in america these days
Nobody gives a damn anymore, because everyone feels no one
gives a damn about them , maybe they are right
Peace,
Ex-MislTech
>I wonder, how much bandwidth brain average human uses, and if we can >tax that too...
.
.
...
... The scum of the earth .
Hehehe, MIT is working on Nueral networks, so it proves it
is a network, and it is Local to you
So it is a Local Area Network
With all those brains busily firing neurons will make billions
in new tax revenue, your a genius !!!
LOL
They wish
Politicians
Peace,
Ex-MislTech
Cisco systems will lobby against this .
.
Hopefully their past bribes for things like the H1-b visa
will hold enough clout to keep this from coming about
Peace,
Ex-MislTech
Well I guess we would not make satellites either, it ....hey wait a minute ....
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
would be too vulnerable a target
Whether something is vulnerable or not has little bearing
on whether it will be pursued
The ISS was vulnerable to micro meteors travelling at
horrific speeds, yet it went up . Same with HST
He3 is reason enough alone to send remote control
mining to the moon
I think we should delay sending man til the robots
build it and test it thoroughly
They do not need food, water, or air, just solar power
and spare parts
I say we start it now as a economic stimulus
Supposedly there is over $100 trillion USD worth of He3 up there
That is a good enough reason for me
That would more than cover the cost of the robot portion
of the project, and as cold as it is on the darkside we
get free cryrogenics for superconductors
The solar panels would work even better
Satellites could largely be built and launched
from the moon for much less by robots
Spacecraft to travel to mars could be built and launched
for the moon for much less
In the long run it would end up saving money
Peace,
Ex-MislTech
Here is one of my previous articles as to why I think it .
7 74 437
.
.
is possible, just have robots build it , not humans
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=75577&cid=6
Also, build it underground, you need to mine it anyways
for raw matrials, and we built a tunnel under the
english channel
With much less gravity it is much more feasible
Peace,
Ex-MislTech