It's also nice how you construct a straw man argument
and then base it off a faulty assertion (that forcasts for "it will do this at this time in this location" are equally accurate to "on average in this area it will be like this")
hint: the latter is a LOT more accurate PS: the 7 day forcast is a lot more accurate than a lot of smartass morons like realize, because they recall when it was wrong, but not when it was right PPS: the 3 day forcast is 90% accurate for temperature last time i saw statistics... 3 or 4 years ago PPPS: leave climatology to *Gasp* actual climatologists!
Accusing others of the errors you commit is a pretty pathetic attempt to hide your weak position.
I posted source citations.
You didn't.
I'm sorry that you're too fucking stupid to understand the sources.. but they are there. And if you cannot understand the difference between ~250PPM and ~370PPM then you're a blazing retard that shouldn't be discussing this issue at all.
there is a difference between refusing to listen to you because you do not cite sources (me) and claiming i didn't cite sources because of not understanding the sources cited (you)
why i'm wasting my time trying to converse with you when you obviously don't know jack shit about climatological science is beyond me.
and no just because i think we're making the planet hotter now doesn't mean i think we were involved in the formation of the Sahara, the two are unrelated. The Sahara is there because of prevailing winds combine with the positions of other nearby land masses, not global average temperature. The Sahara was actually larger than it is now during the last ice age.
Let the people who understand climate science do climate science.
i know their modern behavior, i was referring to the set of laws originally put down by most religions - almost all of them conform to the standard of standard of being things the founders of that religion wouldn't want to have done to them. Some times with tacking on things to promote their control over things they liked to control (like their wives).
from this you get the original set of laws of each religion, i have yet to see an exception. Now many sheeple of the world will gladly follow their religion over a cliff and smile while doing it - but that is because their indoctrination into a faith as overridden their survival instinct and enlightened self interest.
higher primates - not just humans - all have a basic sense of right vs wrong derived from "fair vs not fair" and how they would like others to act toward them.
Considering murder wrong and promoting a society that agrees is simply self interest at it's finest. Same thing with stealing or making it illegal to slander maliciously or any number of modern laws and religious doctrines.
they can all be traced back to the principle of "i don't want this done to me!"
only someone with zero understanding of earth sciences would think that the formation of the Sahara was related to modern climate change.
only someone with no understanding of science what so ever would think that changing the chemistry of the atmosphere (increasing total carbon load in the atmosphere by massive amounts) would not affect the climate of the planet
religion is not required to create laws or morality
failing to understand (or admit this) shows a narrow minded for of subconscious bigotry that far too many religious individuals engage in against those who do not think their evidenceless positions are valid.
People that cannot figure out how morals and laws exist in the absence of religion show signs of sociopathy.
try playing it - if you tried it at launch and quit because of bugs, performance issues, etc renew your account and play again - they've made huge performance improvements, released more content, tweaked classes, etc - they continue to do so. New player models are coming out end of this month, early next month that should look and perform better. The second raid zone comes out with them. The Trial Island comes out with them.
I've been playing Vanguard since Beta4 - it's come a long way since launch. People with hardware that couldn't play the game at launch are running with decent performance (read: balanced settings, 25+ fps in most situations).
Vanguard is better than this - even in it's state now (it's a lot more playable than at launch, but still not what it could be.. lots of art assets in that 17GB not being used - new player models for better looks and better performance on the way).
Was the OP paid to submit this? Because those screenshots don't look as good as vanguard.
i would say that you're more than a tad paranoid and need to get out of the 1800s wild west attitude - it's not functional in any society with a population density resembling a modern industrialized or post industrial nation.
under our system of government the declaration is nothing but a historical document my friend... remember that as it is important to note when combating theocrats
1) Everything has to be under FISA - and from my understanding it's typically been a cakewalk to get warrants in the past because the only time it was used was when the warrants were justifiable 2) An inspector general who's job it so to investigate all abuses of the programs from the moment bush created them on into the future
There is a serious benefit: it mandates ALL forms of surveilliance must go under FISA And another: it creates a inspector general post charged with investigating all current and past uses of the programs since Bush started them
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It's also nice how you construct a straw man argument
and then base it off a faulty assertion (that forcasts for "it will do this at this time in this location" are equally accurate to "on average in this area it will be like this")
hint: the latter is a LOT more accurate
PS: the 7 day forcast is a lot more accurate than a lot of smartass morons like realize, because they recall when it was wrong, but not when it was right
PPS: the 3 day forcast is 90% accurate for temperature last time i saw statistics... 3 or 4 years ago
PPPS: leave climatology to *Gasp* actual climatologists!
you're changing the subject
that's a logical fallacy
learn to discuss the merits of an argument or simply be man enough to admit you're wrong
Accusing others of the errors you commit is a pretty pathetic attempt to hide your weak position.
I posted source citations.
You didn't.
I'm sorry that you're too fucking stupid to understand the sources.. but they are there. And if you cannot understand the difference between ~250PPM and ~370PPM then you're a blazing retard that shouldn't be discussing this issue at all.
there is a difference between refusing to listen to you because you do not cite sources (me)
and claiming i didn't cite sources because of not understanding the sources cited (you)
why i'm wasting my time trying to converse with you when you obviously don't know jack shit about climatological science is beyond me.
I stopped reading your post when you claimed the 1930s were the hottest decade on record again without providing a source citation
Around 35% increase since 1832 from 270ppm to 370ppm
http://www.lib.utah.edu/services/prog/gould/1998/Figure_6.gif
Emission rate of 7 billion tons/year
http://img.tfd.com/wiki/5/56/Global_Carbon_Emission_by_Type.png
if you doubt that humans are having significant impact then take a gander at this graph
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/1c/Carbon_Dioxide_400kyr.png
and no just because i think we're making the planet hotter now doesn't mean i think we were involved in the formation of the Sahara, the two are unrelated. The Sahara is there because of prevailing winds combine with the positions of other nearby land masses, not global average temperature. The Sahara was actually larger than it is now during the last ice age.
Let the people who understand climate science do climate science.
citations or STFU
i know their modern behavior, i was referring to the set of laws originally put down by most religions - almost all of them conform to the standard of standard of being things the founders of that religion wouldn't want to have done to them. Some times with tacking on things to promote their control over things they liked to control (like their wives).
from this you get the original set of laws of each religion, i have yet to see an exception. Now many sheeple of the world will gladly follow their religion over a cliff and smile while doing it - but that is because their indoctrination into a faith as overridden their survival instinct and enlightened self interest.
higher primates - not just humans - all have a basic sense of right vs wrong derived from "fair vs not fair" and how they would like others to act toward them.
Considering murder wrong and promoting a society that agrees is simply self interest at it's finest.
Same thing with stealing
or making it illegal to slander maliciously
or any number of modern laws and religious doctrines.
they can all be traced back to the principle of "i don't want this done to me!"
only someone with zero understanding of earth sciences would think that the formation of the Sahara was related to modern climate change.
only someone with no understanding of science what so ever would think that changing the chemistry of the atmosphere (increasing total carbon load in the atmosphere by massive amounts) would not affect the climate of the planet
religion is not required to create laws or morality
failing to understand (or admit this) shows a narrow minded for of subconscious bigotry that far too many religious individuals engage in against those who do not think their evidenceless positions are valid.
People that cannot figure out how morals and laws exist in the absence of religion show signs of sociopathy.
but.. how do you classify the people who fit in BOTH groups?
LAID 1+0?
try playing it - if you tried it at launch and quit because of bugs, performance issues, etc renew your account and play again - they've made huge performance improvements, released more content, tweaked classes, etc - they continue to do so. New player models are coming out end of this month, early next month that should look and perform better. The second raid zone comes out with them. The Trial Island comes out with them.
I've been playing Vanguard since Beta4 - it's come a long way since launch. People with hardware that couldn't play the game at launch are running with decent performance (read: balanced settings, 25+ fps in most situations).
have you played the game? at launch maybe
did you use your free trial month to play some more?
here are my screenshots from live - all since launch. The good ones start around page 3 when i got a new video card.
http://derekmeek.com/Pictures/phpgraphy/?dir=Game_Screenshots%2FVanguard%2Flive
Vanguard is better than this - even in it's state now (it's a lot more playable than at launch, but still not what it could be.. lots of art assets in that 17GB not being used - new player models for better looks and better performance on the way).
Was the OP paid to submit this? Because those screenshots don't look as good as vanguard.
i would say that you're more than a tad paranoid and need to get out of the 1800s wild west attitude - it's not functional in any society with a population density resembling a modern industrialized or post industrial nation.
under our system of government the declaration is nothing but a historical document my friend... remember that as it is important to note when combating theocrats
1) Everything has to be under FISA - and from my understanding it's typically been a cakewalk to get warrants in the past because the only time it was used was when the warrants were justifiable
2) An inspector general who's job it so to investigate all abuses of the programs from the moment bush created them on into the future
or if he simply let the courts take care of it.. but whatever that wasn't his reasoning - i saw him on TV today
http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=609723&cid=24139657
With mandates that all surveillance goes under FISA and for an inspector general to investigate possible abuses of any such systems.
lol happens when i'm posting four responses at once
There is a serious benefit: it mandates ALL forms of surveilliance must go under FISA
And another: it creates a inspector general post charged with investigating all current and past uses of the programs since Bush started them
Obama's response paraphrased from livetv: http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=609723&cid=24139657
Obama's response paraphrased from livetv: http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=609723&cid=24139657
http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=609723&cid=24139657
and nice signature!
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