illegal to legal has been consistently handled on a case-by-case basis from what i've seen, also this only shields them from civil suits, not criminal ones (as pointed out by someone else later in the thread)
also see my link a few posts up to my post near the bottom of the thread - it contains a paraphrase of his official response to someone bringing the issue up with him.
grow up and realize that sometimes to get a gain we also have to suffer a loss, in this case it's a loss that may not matter and if it does can be rescinded later
Someone brought this up to Obama in his campaign stop in Fairfax, VA - his response talking about he helped expand the federal whistleblowers law.
he says the issue here is that we haev a surveilliance program that tracks people that could do us harm - it was supposed to run through FISA (i'm trying to keep up with him while typing this) - "there is little doubt the bush administration chose to ignore FISA in setting up with program" and went to the phone companies. Reason we originally wanted to deny them immunity was not just to punish them but to find out how the program was abused and we might not have any leverage to make sure going forward the program wasn't violating basic civil liberties. Hence he voted against the original version of the bill. He said the current bill is not perfect - it did two things he wanted to support: explicitly stated that ALL surveilliance programs MUST go through FISA to make sure they're getting warrants, it also institutes and inspector general to investigate any abuses already present. He recognizes some people feel that the phone companies were complicit and should be accountable and he understands this - but he feels that this surveilliance (when conducted legally w/ warrants) is important for our security and he had to balance punishing the telecoms and what he feels is needed now - he also made reference to the fact that he can change things when he gets into office.
So... we have an official response
sorry for the paraphrase i tried to keep up.. there is a direct quote embedded
Obama is a constitutional Scholar - the retroactive immunity is Ex Post Facto and therefore unconstitutional - by voting for this and knowing that section should be struck down he denies swiftboaters the ability to claim he's "soft on terror"
you act like we wouldn't make any progress if it wasn't for certain poeple existing.. if they hadn't have lived someone else would have. Human progress is a sum process not an individual process.
No.. they're just the type of Environmentalist that annoys me: the ones that speak before thinking.
I am certainly an Environmentalist myself, but I like to think before speaking. Nuclear energy is much cleaner, and storage is easy and safe, at least one modern type of reactor CANNOT "meltdown" (it's physically impossible for it to do so).
As for the the criticisms:
"they have to ruin lands to store" - the cavern(s) the US government wants to use are man made and already exist "what if it gets into the water supply" - the cavern(s) are seperated from the water supply by water-impermeable rock layers "ZOMG radiation" - *facepalm* you're exposed to radiation every day.. most of it is harmless alpha and beta radiation that a simple sheet of paper can absorb. You get more radiation exposure from being in the upper troposphere on an airplane than you get living 100 yards from a nuclear reactor for 20 years.
And what is even dumber - a modern Pebble Bed reactor CANNOT melt down - it's physically impossible. It's moderator becomes more efficient at higher temperatures.
the only time performance was a server problem was when they first released the raid zone they had a bug with buff handling that would grind the server to a halt and lag everyone out of that shard (the raid zone is the only "sharded" zone)
the rest of the performance problems have all been client side due to unoptimized or poorly optimized art and code - there have been large performance improvements since launch and the next large Game Update (GU5) has a very large batch of optimizations
Silius (lead dev) has long said that vanguard pays for itself and they have said they would like to do and expansion -
and it's not nearly dead - there are more than 94 people in the crafters channel alone at 4pm central and more than 200 (it won't let you see passed that) in regionsay on my server - this is at a non-peak time
They're working on one as they fix bugs and perform optimization - it will probably be out before xmas and i believe when Trial Island is available (and will have the tutorial, etc) it will be when they relaunch.. but i would have to dig in the forums to find quotes.
I type this while harvesting on my 50 ranger/45 carpenter in vanguard.
Game Update 5 is due soon and I have played around with it on the test server - it delivers a fairly large burst of optimizations and visual improvements. The games original problem is one man essentially: Brad McQuaid doesn't know how to manage his way out of a wet paper bag.
They have been working toward a relaunch since the moment Sony bought out Sigil and thus far have done a good job.
Anyone who liked the game but got driven away by bugs and performance issues should come around once Game Update 5 or Game Update 6 are pushed
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illegal to legal has been consistently handled on a case-by-case basis from what i've seen, also this only shields them from civil suits, not criminal ones (as pointed out by someone else later in the thread)
also see my link a few posts up to my post near the bottom of the thread - it contains a paraphrase of his official response to someone bringing the issue up with him.
Excuse me for not being a single issue voter, excuse me for not considering him instantly an idiot before hearing his explanation of his actions.
http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=609723&cid=24139657
grow up and realize that sometimes to get a gain we also have to suffer a loss, in this case it's a loss that may not matter and if it does can be rescinded later
Someone brought this up to Obama in his campaign stop in Fairfax, VA - his response talking about he helped expand the federal whistleblowers law.
he says the issue here is that we haev a surveilliance program that tracks people that could do us harm - it was supposed to run through FISA (i'm trying to keep up with him while typing this) - "there is little doubt the bush administration chose to ignore FISA in setting up with program" and went to the phone companies. Reason we originally wanted to deny them immunity was not just to punish them but to find out how the program was abused and we might not have any leverage to make sure going forward the program wasn't violating basic civil liberties. Hence he voted against the original version of the bill. He said the current bill is not perfect - it did two things he wanted to support: explicitly stated that ALL surveilliance programs MUST go through FISA to make sure they're getting warrants, it also institutes and inspector general to investigate any abuses already present. He recognizes some people feel that the phone companies were complicit and should be accountable and he understands this - but he feels that this surveilliance (when conducted legally w/ warrants) is important for our security and he had to balance punishing the telecoms and what he feels is needed now - he also made reference to the fact that he can change things when he gets into office.
So... we have an official response
sorry for the paraphrase i tried to keep up.. there is a direct quote embedded
it changes the status of the act - either direction (from legality to illegality or from illegality to illegality)
you can't filibuster is there is cloture
and the original FISA allowed them to do that - with 72 hours to retroactively get a warrant if they couldn't get one fast enough.
he's a constitutional scholar - retroactive immunity is Ex Post Facto and unconstitutional under Article I Section 9 US Constitution.
so in effect that language in the bill is powerless and Obama knows it
Obama is a constitutional Scholar - the retroactive immunity is Ex Post Facto and therefore unconstitutional - by voting for this and knowing that section should be struck down he denies swiftboaters the ability to claim he's "soft on terror"
yup and along will come another genius with the right idea
the idea of "you cannot allow you to make that decision because you cannot possibly know ALL the long term ramifications" is retarded.
By that logic we can't let you: buy a cheese burger, walk across the street, breath (chaos theory > you), reproduce, etc.
and someone else will just take there place
you act like we wouldn't make any progress if it wasn't for certain poeple existing.. if they hadn't have lived someone else would have. Human progress is a sum process not an individual process.
No.. they're just the type of Environmentalist that annoys me: the ones that speak before thinking.
I am certainly an Environmentalist myself, but I like to think before speaking. Nuclear energy is much cleaner, and storage is easy and safe, at least one modern type of reactor CANNOT "meltdown" (it's physically impossible for it to do so).
As for the the criticisms:
"they have to ruin lands to store" - the cavern(s) the US government wants to use are man made and already exist
"what if it gets into the water supply" - the cavern(s) are seperated from the water supply by water-impermeable rock layers
"ZOMG radiation" - *facepalm* you're exposed to radiation every day.. most of it is harmless alpha and beta radiation that a simple sheet of paper can absorb. You get more radiation exposure from being in the upper troposphere on an airplane than you get living 100 yards from a nuclear reactor for 20 years.
But then.. i'm originally from Cedar Rapids, IA (Yes that one that just flooded) where I lived in the shadow of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duane_Arnold_Energy_Center for 18 years.
Even Better: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pebble_Bed_Reactor
The Carter decreed had to do with nuclear weapons - yes it's antiquated and should be rescinded.
And what is even dumber - a modern Pebble Bed reactor CANNOT melt down - it's physically impossible. It's moderator becomes more efficient at higher temperatures.
because CSS2 and DOM2, ajax, etc are ancient
:P) and testing on IE and firefox..
yup
it has nothing to do with research (googling
nothing at all
i've coded to standards for eons and my pages have never been broken for IE users
vanguard is developing a free trial and a product relaunch to coincide with it's availability (before years end)
the only time performance was a server problem was when they first released the raid zone they had a bug with buff handling that would grind the server to a halt and lag everyone out of that shard (the raid zone is the only "sharded" zone)
the rest of the performance problems have all been client side due to unoptimized or poorly optimized art and code - there have been large performance improvements since launch and the next large Game Update (GU5) has a very large batch of optimizations
Silius (lead dev) has long said that vanguard pays for itself and they have said they would like to do and expansion -
and it's not nearly dead - there are more than 94 people in the crafters channel alone at 4pm central and more than 200 (it won't let you see passed that) in regionsay on my server - this is at a non-peak time
They're working on one as they fix bugs and perform optimization - it will probably be out before xmas and i believe when Trial Island is available (and will have the tutorial, etc) it will be when they relaunch.. but i would have to dig in the forums to find quotes.
I type this while harvesting on my 50 ranger/45 carpenter in vanguard.
Game Update 5 is due soon and I have played around with it on the test server - it delivers a fairly large burst of optimizations and visual improvements. The games original problem is one man essentially: Brad McQuaid doesn't know how to manage his way out of a wet paper bag.
They have been working toward a relaunch since the moment Sony bought out Sigil and thus far have done a good job.
Anyone who liked the game but got driven away by bugs and performance issues should come around once Game Update 5 or Game Update 6 are pushed
that's not how it works.. copying the game into memory doesn't mean it it "is an expressive creation that includes ...."
now if i was to make a game set in the same world, etc THAT would be a derivative work
Nope, it's not a derivative... i don't think that word means what you think it does
And you're just as bad as them - you're their equal and opposite. Either extreme is the realm of batshiat crazies.
each individual state in the US has a constitution
not saying that his statement wasn't lazy.. but at least don't stupid
How do you think those of us still here feel?
thank $DIETY he isn't a computer science professor.