The poor UI also limits Microsoft Office, but many people have had to learn Microsoft Office as a condition of getting a job. (Microsoft Office: Often weird, unexpected things happen.)
I talked with this man at OSCON 2015:
Robinson Tryon
QA Engineer & LIbreOffice Community Outreach Herald
The Document Foundation
qubit
(AT)
LibreOffice.org
I offered to help improve the LibreOffice GUI. He is enthusiastic about that.
My first recommendation: The icon for Italics should be a capital letter I, not, as it is now, a lower-case italic A. (An I with a top and bottom line.)
Recently, Slashdot has been more infected by people who had bad childhoods and want to express their anger. Their manner of expression is to act out their anger toward people who weren't involved in their childhoods.
"... it's not the disaster that people are making it out to be."
One of the issues is this: "people" are saying negative things. Apple has become a gay-supporting, headphone-selling, watch-making corporation that announces products before they are ready.
Apple CEO Tim Cook is apparently not someone who can handle being a CEO. A capable CEO would not run a company in a way that gets so much negative or distracting publicity.
Yes, it tells the time. The watch shows text messages on an iPhone so that it isn't necessary to take the phone out of a pocket. But, does that justify paying $500 or $1,000?
Would you want your company to suffer the destruction of reputation faced by Apple?
The Apple employee meant that the software was worse than alpha. He indicated that Apple shouldn't have released the Apple Watch before it was finished.
Steve Jobs was very abusive, but he had his good side. He would never have released something so obviously faulty. The Apple employee and I agreed about that.
Extremely good point. We need some way to compensate those who do the work.
All the companies associated with Android seem badly managed. They get themselves involved in conflicts of interest. They do things that are, basically, hostile to the customers.
Google developed Android. Good. Then Google began using Android for more and more control. Bad. In response, companies like Samsung are developing their own cell phone OS versions, and also trying to take too much control.
People are beginning to speak very negatively about Google because of the over-reaching corporate tactics.
A Google manager told me that the company doesn't know what to do with all the money it makes from advertising on Google search. So, the problem is not Google being poor.
Wow! CyanogenMod has become amazing since I last looked at it.
New hardware? Steve Jobs got people to believe that, if they don't have the newest version of DTT, Digital Turnip Twaddling, they are horribly disadvantaged.
Buy an Apple watch? For $1,000.00? An Apple employee showed me his watch and said the software was unfinished.
This is what Linux has become. Linus Torvalds does it himself! You give the worst possible interpretation to what people say, and then pretend they are "losers".
Microsoft: Windows Media Center came with Windows 7. It has many areas in which it seems unfinished, but it is easy to use, even for children.
Linux: What Media Center to you recommend? It must have TV schedules and allow recording of over-the-air TV.
Microsoft: Notepad++ is extremely valuable. There are lots of plugins. But it runs only on Windows.
I agree about Linux being fundamentally far better for the entire world. However, it seems that everything in Linux is poorly documented. Microsoft's documentation is very poor, but Linux documentation is considerably worse. That creates a HUGE barrier to using Linux.
Not many people want to spend a week trying to discover how some Linux program works. For example, XBMC, now Kodi, media center.
Actually, people are unhappy "idiots". When abusers succeed, that causes others to choose
to be abusive. When there are a huge number of people doing many kinds of abuses, people begin
feeling that they can't protect themselves, and try to ignore the abuses.
The U.S. government in general, U.S. banks, and the many secret agencies of the U.S. government
engage in many kinds of abuses. For example, a side-effect of NSA activities also has the
initials NSA: No Sales for America. Companies don't want to buy complicated products from the U.S. because
agencies of the U.S. government can go to any U.S. corporation and tell executives that they must accept the insertion of spy products, and keep that secret, or go to prison. Since any complicated U.S. product could have methods of control or spying or worse, it is better for foreign customers to avoid buying anything touched by U.S. companies.
Another loss in Windows 10: Windows Updates will be forced, in at least one version. Will there
be other lost features, now or later? Will Microsoft extend its control over Windows in other
hidden or complicated ways? The issue is not whether technically-knowledgeable users will be able to stop forced
updates; the issue is that most people won't know how to regain control over their systems. That
control is important because often Microsoft has given poorly designed updates that have caused
problems on user's systems. See this Slashdot story, for example, Windows 10's Automatic Updates For NVidia Drivers Causing Trouble.
More about Microsoft releasing buggy software: The Slashdot story, Windows 10
Launches, says Windows 10 is "buggier than Windows 8.1, 8, 7, or Vista were on their
respective launch days" and "During my testing on a variety of hardware, I've run into a
lot of bugs and issues -- even with the version that will be released to consumers on launch
day".
(At present, the best way to update Windows 7 is to use Autopatcher, because Microsoft's anti-customer "updates"
are avoided.)
Online comments say that Microsoft will try to move Windows to a model that requires monthly
payments.
Firefox: Embraced, "Extended", soon to be Extinguished? Mozilla Foundation now gets most of its
money from Microsoft. Microsoft pays Yahoo. Yahoo pays Mozilla Foundation to make "Yahoo search" (actually Microsoft Bing search) the default search engine in
Firefox. Most people don't have the technical knowledge to know how they've been manipulated, or
how to restore the default search engine to Google search.
Thunderbird and SeaMonkey Composer GUIs: Damaged, apparently deliberately. Every time you do a
file save, the newer versions of both ask for a new file name, and don't suggest the last one
chosen. The damage was reported several months ago, but has not been fixed. Is that another
example of Embrace, Extend, Extinguish? People who feel forced away from Thunderbird may choose
Microsoft software to replace it. Is that what Microsoft is trying to accomplish?
One effect of abuse is that the abusers become VERY unhappy. For years, people called Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer "Monkey Boy". That reflected the results of Ballmer's constant involvement in Microsoft's abuse of its customers.
Mod parent up. Linux may destroy itself. There are too many distributions and not enough documentation. It amazes me the degree to which people don't like to cooperate.
[Mozilla Foundation] "inflicted Australis on the world and changed the default search engine to Yahoo".
Mozilla Foundation lost its $300,000,000 yearly income when Google stopped paying to have Google the default search engine. Now most, or almost all, of Mozilla Foundation's money comes from Microsoft, through Yahoo.
This is the new arrangement: Microsoft pays Yahoo. Yahoo pays Mozilla Foundation to make "Yahoo search" (actually Microsoft Bing search) the default search engine in Firefox. Most people don't have the technical knowledge to know how they've been manipulated, or how to restore the default search engine to Google search.
Mozilla Foundation has apparently allowed deliberate damage to the Thunderbird and SeaMonkey Composer GUIs. Every time you do a file save, the newer versions of both ask for a new file name, and don't suggest the last one chosen. The damage was reported several months ago, but has not been fixed.
Was that done because Microsoft wanted it? Is that another example of Embrace, Extend, Extinguish? People who feel forced away from Thunderbird may choose Microsoft software to replace it. Is that what Microsoft is trying to accomplish?
Slashdot discussions usually don't handle software abuse well. Often those with technology experience don't see that abusers are interested in abusing most people, while avoiding annoying those who would have the technical experience to complain by providing a technical way to avoid that particular abuse.
Slashdot discussions don't handle software abuse well. Often those with technology experience don't see that abusers are interested in abusing most people, while avoiding annoying those who would have the technical experience to complain.
Slashdot Mirror
Dastar Corp. v. Twentieth Century Fox Film Corp
Dastar Corp. V. Twentieth Century Fox Film Corp. Et Al. No. 02-428, Supreme Court of United States
"After reading this I'm not going to even entertain the thought of working there."
A few links to stories that say that's a good decision:
Dear Amazon interns, some advice from an old man who has been at Amazon way too long. Quote: "Amazon's work-life balance is awful."
Inside Amazon's Kafkaesque performance-improvement plan
Inside Amazon's Bizarre Corporate Culture
Glassdoor Reviews of Amazon
Amazon Is a Time Thief, by an Amazon Employee.
Working for Amazon Sounds Utterly Soul Crushing.
Life in an Amazon Warehouse: Fear and Efficiency at 35 Orders Per Second
Mod parent UP!
The poor UI limits LIbreOffice.
The poor UI also limits Microsoft Office, but many people have had to learn Microsoft Office as a condition of getting a job. (Microsoft Office: Often weird, unexpected things happen.)
I talked with this man at OSCON 2015:
Robinson Tryon
QA Engineer & LIbreOffice Community Outreach Herald
The Document Foundation
qubit
(AT)
LibreOffice.org
I offered to help improve the LibreOffice GUI. He is enthusiastic about that.
My first recommendation: The icon for Italics should be a capital letter I, not, as it is now, a lower-case italic A. (An I with a top and bottom line.)
"I really don't get the hostility"
Recently, Slashdot has been more infected by people who had bad childhoods and want to express their anger. Their manner of expression is to act out their anger toward people who weren't involved in their childhoods.
Making trouble for other people makes them sicker. See, for example, this recent Slashdot story: Sending Angry Emails Just Makes You Angrier.
True, but building reputation would be good, also. For an example of the need: Google search: Cisco problems.
If that works well, it is an extremely good advertisement for Cisco.
It's a distraction that causes people to get involved in other things rather than thinking about Apple products.
"... it's not the disaster that people are making it out to be."
One of the issues is this: "people" are saying negative things. Apple has become a gay-supporting, headphone-selling, watch-making corporation that announces products before they are ready.
Apple's Tim Cook profiled as "most powerful gay man in Silicon Valley"
5 Reasons Apple Headphones Are The Actual Worst. We are all victims.
Exclusive: Corrupt Apple Store Employees Come Forward Across America (12/20/12)
Apple CEO Tim Cook is apparently not someone who can handle being a CEO. A capable CEO would not run a company in a way that gets so much negative or distracting publicity.
Does Tim Cook deserve to be paid so much? "Cook's pay package was valued at $378 million when he became Apple's CEO."
Yes, it tells the time. The watch shows text messages on an iPhone so that it isn't necessary to take the phone out of a pocket. But, does that justify paying $500 or $1,000?
Would you want your company to suffer the destruction of reputation faced by Apple?
Seven problems facing the Apple Watch
Apple Watch: Issues We Know Of And Possible Fixes.
Opinion: One month later, fixing 15 early Apple Watch problems seems straightforward
These 8 problems with the Apple Watch are 'infuriating'
9 of the biggest complaints about the Apple Watch so far
8 Infuriating Problems With The Apple Watch
"Unfinished software"
The Apple employee meant that the software was worse than alpha. He indicated that Apple shouldn't have released the Apple Watch before it was finished.
Steve Jobs was very abusive, but he had his good side. He would never have released something so obviously faulty. The Apple employee and I agreed about that.
Extremely good point. We need some way to compensate those who do the work.
All the companies associated with Android seem badly managed. They get themselves involved in conflicts of interest. They do things that are, basically, hostile to the customers.
Google developed Android. Good. Then Google began using Android for more and more control. Bad. In response, companies like Samsung are developing their own cell phone OS versions, and also trying to take too much control.
On this Slashdot page, Google is trying to track me 4 different ways:
Google Tag Services, http://www.googletagservices.c...
Google Analytics
Google AdWords
Google DoubleClick, http://www.google.com/doublecl...
People are beginning to speak very negatively about Google because of the over-reaching corporate tactics.
A Google manager told me that the company doesn't know what to do with all the money it makes from advertising on Google search. So, the problem is not Google being poor.
Mod Funny.
Wow! CyanogenMod has become amazing since I last looked at it.
New hardware? Steve Jobs got people to believe that, if they don't have the newest version of DTT, Digital Turnip Twaddling, they are horribly disadvantaged.
Buy an Apple watch? For $1,000.00? An Apple employee showed me his watch and said the software was unfinished.
"you losers"
This is what Linux has become. Linus Torvalds does it himself! You give the worst possible interpretation to what people say, and then pretend they are "losers".
Microsoft: Windows Media Center came with Windows 7. It has many areas in which it seems unfinished, but it is easy to use, even for children.
Linux: What Media Center to you recommend? It must have TV schedules and allow recording of over-the-air TV.
Microsoft: Notepad++ is extremely valuable. There are lots of plugins. But it runs only on Windows.
Linux: What editor is as good as Notepad++?
I agree about Linux being fundamentally far better for the entire world. However, it seems that everything in Linux is poorly documented. Microsoft's documentation is very poor, but Linux documentation is considerably worse. That creates a HUGE barrier to using Linux.
Not many people want to spend a week trying to discover how some Linux program works. For example, XBMC, now Kodi, media center.
You found one thing you don't like, and avoided thinking about everything else?
"People are happy idiots."
Actually, people are unhappy "idiots". When abusers succeed, that causes others to choose to be abusive. When there are a huge number of people doing many kinds of abuses, people begin feeling that they can't protect themselves, and try to ignore the abuses.
The U.S. government in general, U.S. banks, and the many secret agencies of the U.S. government engage in many kinds of abuses. For example, a side-effect of NSA activities also has the initials NSA: No Sales for America. Companies don't want to buy complicated products from the U.S. because agencies of the U.S. government can go to any U.S. corporation and tell executives that they must accept the insertion of spy products, and keep that secret, or go to prison. Since any complicated U.S. product could have methods of control or spying or worse, it is better for foreign customers to avoid buying anything touched by U.S. companies.
One effect of "upgrading" to Windows 10: Windows Media Center will be deleted.
Another loss in Windows 10: Windows Updates will be forced, in at least one version. Will there be other lost features, now or later? Will Microsoft extend its control over Windows in other hidden or complicated ways? The issue is not whether technically-knowledgeable users will be able to stop forced updates; the issue is that most people won't know how to regain control over their systems. That control is important because often Microsoft has given poorly designed updates that have caused problems on user's systems. See this Slashdot story, for example, Windows 10's Automatic Updates For NVidia Drivers Causing Trouble.
More about Microsoft releasing buggy software: The Slashdot story, Windows 10 Launches, says Windows 10 is "buggier than Windows 8.1, 8, 7, or Vista were on their respective launch days" and "During my testing on a variety of hardware, I've run into a lot of bugs and issues -- even with the version that will be released to consumers on launch day".
(At present, the best way to update Windows 7 is to use Autopatcher, because Microsoft's anti-customer "updates" are avoided.)
Online comments say that Microsoft will try to move Windows to a model that requires monthly payments.
Firefox: Embraced, "Extended", soon to be Extinguished? Mozilla Foundation now gets most of its money from Microsoft. Microsoft pays Yahoo. Yahoo pays Mozilla Foundation to make "Yahoo search" (actually Microsoft Bing search) the default search engine in Firefox. Most people don't have the technical knowledge to know how they've been manipulated, or how to restore the default search engine to Google search.
Thunderbird and SeaMonkey Composer GUIs: Damaged, apparently deliberately. Every time you do a file save, the newer versions of both ask for a new file name, and don't suggest the last one chosen. The damage was reported several months ago, but has not been fixed. Is that another example of Embrace, Extend, Extinguish? People who feel forced away from Thunderbird may choose Microsoft software to replace it. Is that what Microsoft is trying to accomplish?
One effect of abuse is that the abusers become VERY unhappy. For years, people called Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer "Monkey Boy". That reflected the results of Ballmer's constant involvement in Microsoft's abuse of its customers.
Microsoft is amazingly badly managed. The
Impressive comment.
I have lots of examples, but I didn't have time to find and put them into a comment.
Slashdot has often featured articles from Israeli companies that seem to me to be fraudulent. For example, The Car That Makes Its Own Fuel. That Slashdot story links to this article: The Car That Makes Its Own Fuel.
Mod parent up. Linux may destroy itself. There are too many distributions and not enough documentation. It amazes me the degree to which people don't like to cooperate.
[Mozilla Foundation] "inflicted Australis on the world and changed the default search engine to Yahoo".
Mozilla Foundation lost its $300,000,000 yearly income when Google stopped paying to have Google the default search engine. Now most, or almost all, of Mozilla Foundation's money comes from Microsoft, through Yahoo.
This is the new arrangement: Microsoft pays Yahoo. Yahoo pays Mozilla Foundation to make "Yahoo search" (actually Microsoft Bing search) the default search engine in Firefox. Most people don't have the technical knowledge to know how they've been manipulated, or how to restore the default search engine to Google search.
Mozilla Foundation has apparently allowed deliberate damage to the Thunderbird and SeaMonkey Composer GUIs. Every time you do a file save, the newer versions of both ask for a new file name, and don't suggest the last one chosen. The damage was reported several months ago, but has not been fixed.
Was that done because Microsoft wanted it? Is that another example of Embrace, Extend, Extinguish? People who feel forced away from Thunderbird may choose Microsoft software to replace it. Is that what Microsoft is trying to accomplish?
Slashdot discussions usually don't handle software abuse well. Often those with technology experience don't see that abusers are interested in abusing most people, while avoiding annoying those who would have the technical experience to complain by providing a technical way to avoid that particular abuse.
Slashdot discussions don't handle software abuse well. Often those with technology experience don't see that abusers are interested in abusing most people, while avoiding annoying those who would have the technical experience to complain.
1998: Intel exec: MS wanted to 'extend, embrace and extinguish' competition.
Leaked memos from Microsoft:
"The Halloween documents comprise a series of confidential Microsoft memoranda against open-source software".