I have a cunning plan, lets all send Crapograms from Anonymous Coward, heres the URL:-
http://www.crapogram.com/
Prices from $12 (a little one) to $100 for the 10lb elephant droppings, hehe, come on everyone reply to this message and with the day you pick to send one ( all under AC of course:) and which one you're going to send.
BTW I have no affliation with Crapgrams, I just think its a great way to send the message;)
#1 probably has to go and this is the point you've made. Slashdot can mark the single such post as -2 and it will disappear. Or someone could reword it, and replace the offending post with the reworded version. That way its not copyright infringement, and you could even say it is a summary of the document if it is shorter than the original, just remember to credit the original document at the end and you should be safe on copyright.
You can take on one of us, or bring a development team to court, but you can't stop the movement en toto. I think The Mentor said it best:- You may stop this individual, but you can't stop us all... after all, we're all alike.
(perhaps in their place have a link to a morror of somebody else who hasnt yet been contacted by M$) What I would suggest it that anything that is removed is copied onto FreeNet, so that the content can be dynamically pulled back onto the site from FreeNet, that way posts stay intact, but the information is not hosted on/. that way M$ cannot sue you as you do not have the content to remove and as FreeNet is fully distributed they'll never be able to stamp it out.
I'm sure it will violate the Human Rights bill, so we can get rid of this government, its really becoming very fascist in its outlook what with this and the arrest of the student for allegedly getting email from a former MI5 officer, Hilter would be proud of the government propaganda and suppression of discent.
Use an offshore email account only, or maybe even to leave, they really know how to make us feel unwanted, the future of the country is starting to look very bleak in the hands of Herr Blair and his bunch.
What about Rewind (nice rewind logo), Reheated (popular amongst our Hot Grits fans I suppose;), Prechewed, PreSlashed, PostSlash, PostPosted, PassedSlash, Revisit, RevisitedSlash, AfterSlash, AfterPost, ContSlash, ContinuedSlash, Reanimated, Revilalised, Reconstituted, Do Over, V2.0, Version 2.0, RePost, ReSlash, ApresPost, ApresSlash, SlashSequel, SlashSQL, PostSequel, PostSQL (a tad too much like PostgressSQL but hey I'm on a roll, NOT), Revenge of The Slashdot Post - Part 0010, Slash0010 (more properly Slash00000010 but I only felt like a nibble), ReturnPost, ReturnSlash, SlashReturn, Boomerang, I could go on, but I hope my silly selection makes you feel a little better about your own, good luck with the new section;)
For him, this gamble is a better solution than compromising his right to run his company any way he wants Over here in the UK Directors of companies have to run them in accordance with the law, if they knowingly do anything that might harm the company they are not discharging their duties and can face the courts, Bill G deliberately broke the law in many instances and so would be liable here, doesn't the US have anything similar?
People are lazy, its easier to write inefficient undocumentated code, especially if it is a small project where speed isn't expected to be an issue. Thats a psychological issue, if you can turn it round in their heads, so that producing good code is a Good Thing, then they'll have much more fun and start bragging how their code passed the code review without a scratch, its certainly fun to watch.
And from the alpha-geeks perspective its the other way around, there are few companies that you really want to work for, most bosses have no clue as to how good you really are, I have walked out of places that wanted to give me IQ tests, after all I only have 8 years professional development under my belt!( I really mess them up when I give them the old Einstien quote about what can be counted and what counts:) Right now, I am happily having fun with coding things I like, for the shear pleasure of proving some ideas ( I have money so I don't actually need a job ), no one understands at all, my parents and freinds have flipped, they think I _must_ have a job to be a functioning member of society, oh the irony here, and heres a thought, why doesn't someone build a geek meter for companies, so we all know which ones we should gravitate towards? Perhaps the boys at/. would be good enough to have it as part of their site ( BTW I'm not going to send you a bill, I'd just like to see the idea happen and I'm sooo deep in other things I don't have the time:)
Anti Patterns: Refactoring Software, Archetectures and Projects in Crisis ISBN 0-471-19713-0
Excellent book, I would highly recommend getting your bosses a copy or get a copy if you are running a project, its concise, incisive and useful, personally I'd rate it up there with The Mythical Man Month and helps when you need to point out the company is making a classic mistake.
I think an important point is being missed here, something may start out messily hacked together, but as soon as it starts to become important, more people start to evolve it, or someone comes along with a good design and the original code dies while the ideas continue in a new form, the only difference between OSS and closed source is that you get to see how someone else did it to begin with and so you get to see the mistakes and can more effectively create something better, this means OSS can evolve quickly, perhaps the community could run polls on OSS projects, whether its "hack" stage, "evolving" stage or "mature" stage, I'm sure people like SourceForge could add such a feature very easily.
I'm reminded of the Dilbert where the PHB says something similar and after praising his insight they completely ignore him and carry on doing it the same way as before.. just a thought.
The EU/EC is having a go at BT, its pretty poor when we have to rely on supra-national entities to save us poor Brits, heres the full story in the Guardian:-
The actual percentage of population that will be able to have the service will be lower as many of the lines here in the UK have been DACSed (multiplexed at the street level box) so many people do not have an exclusive line to the exchange and therefore will not be able to have ADSL, this is what happens with a monoploy cuts corners, plus there are not the technical staff available to do the customer installations, right now there are 3 installation technicians in London, where there should be 50 already trained by now, assuming 10 connections done per day per installer (~1 hour to get to the residence and install) that would mean we would have a roll out rate of some 6000 connections in London per year, to connect all Londoners at that rate would take over thousand years, BT don't have a clue, its all nice press releases and not much else.
The problem is that BT has a monopoly on the local loop and our Prime Minister, Mr. Tony Blair has signed an EU (European Union) deal to open it by the end of this year, however this is not being implemented as BT and the regulator OFTEL oppose it (OFTEL is an arm of the government, which it seems to be severely corrupt). What BT have done is to price the retail offering (BTOpenWorld) at a price that means they loose money to the wholesale arm that actually supplies the connection to the retail division and all other ISPs, so crippling other ISPs ability to provide the service at a lower cost and making them heaps of money via the wholesale division, and this is all sanctioned by our freindly government dept. OFTEL.
2 weeks, you are lucky, here on the BT ADSL trial / pre-roll-out service we have daily outages, BTs implementation is BAD, we'll have to wait until next year for local loop unbundling to give us decent service and prices, I might have left the UK by then as I'm so fed up with it.
OFTEL are at best useless, they are supposed to respond to complaints made against telecos within 10 days, I had to wait 150 for some drivel form letter, OFTEL==BT for all intents and purposes, now I understand why people resort to violence against the state, VX anyone???;)
Actually I imagine Dredd either kludging a PERL script together, or on a day off, OOing the system, drawing nice UML diagrams and coding in C++, then wasting the entire test team when they disagree with him at the code review, at least they got the date right..2000AD.
Plus of course, after paying to download an image, I don't see any reason you couldn't simply e-mail it to someone else Why not just copy it throughout GnutellaNet, that way its nicely distributed to all that want it with no one server being/.ed? Come to think of it, why not email the sysadmins about doing this sort of thing _before_ a/. article is posted, that way they have a choice loose the server if it gets hammered or allow the info to be propagated via a distributed system like Gnutella, just my tuppence worth.
We are an envious, unimaginative, reactive, bigotted, bitter society. I disagree completely, we are very imaginative, its the institutions and government that are not, and we are no more reactive and bigotted than anywhere else, in fact I would argue less than most, we don't have big neo-fascist movements like mainland Europe, or the USs KKK, and when an injustice happens we stand up and fight like fsck, like with the Poll Tax protests, we have a very distinguished history for standing up against oppression of any sort, for example we had more mercenaries fight in Bosnia than any other country, and they fought for the Bosnians who had no money, but were fighting for freedom, and then there was the Executive Outcomes thing where the government got it right and helped kick out an African dictator and restore a democratic government. We actually have a population that discusses things, I think it has a lot to do with pub culture where people sit and have a pint and discuss the latest happenings local, national and international, I even had an interesting chat with my landlord about the tech economy. There are sections of "Little Englanders", but they are in my expereince few and far between, anyway I hope that puts some perspective on your comments.
Ok, so how did a comment that is one word correction of the comment above it get a rating of 2? Next someone will tell me its informative.. arggghhhhh....
Slashdot Mirror
I have a cunning plan, lets all send Crapograms from Anonymous Coward, heres the URL :-
:) and which one you're going to send.
;)
http://www.crapogram.com/
Prices from $12 (a little one) to $100 for the 10lb elephant droppings, hehe, come on everyone reply to this message and with the day you pick to send one ( all under AC of course
BTW I have no affliation with Crapgrams, I just think its a great way to send the message
#1 probably has to go and this is the point you've made. Slashdot can mark the single such post as -2 and it will disappear.
Or someone could reword it, and replace the offending post with the reworded version. That way its not copyright infringement, and you could even say it is a summary of the document if it is shorter than the original, just remember to credit the original document at the end and you should be safe on copyright.
You can take on one of us, or bring a development team to court, but you can't stop the movement en toto. :-
I think The Mentor said it best
You may stop this individual, but you can't stop us all... after all, we're all alike.
(perhaps in their place have a link to a morror of somebody else who hasnt yet been contacted by M$) /. that way M$ cannot sue you as you do not have the content to remove and as FreeNet is fully distributed they'll never be able to stamp it out.
What I would suggest it that anything that is removed is copied onto FreeNet, so that the content can be dynamically pulled back onto the site from FreeNet, that way posts stay intact, but the information is not hosted on
I'm sure it will violate the Human Rights bill, so we can get rid of this government, its really becoming very fascist in its outlook what with this and the arrest of the student for allegedly getting email from a former MI5 officer, Hilter would be proud of the government propaganda and suppression of discent.
Yeah I can see it now, "Alright lads, we aren't getting a raise, down emails, its a walkout!"
Use an offshore email account only, or maybe even to leave, they really know how to make us feel unwanted, the future of the country is starting to look very bleak in the hands of Herr Blair and his bunch.
What about Rewind (nice rewind logo), Reheated (popular amongst our Hot Grits fans I suppose ;), Prechewed, PreSlashed, PostSlash, PostPosted, PassedSlash, Revisit, RevisitedSlash, AfterSlash, AfterPost, ContSlash, ContinuedSlash, Reanimated, Revilalised, Reconstituted, Do Over, V2.0, Version 2.0, RePost, ReSlash, ApresPost, ApresSlash, SlashSequel, SlashSQL, PostSequel, PostSQL (a tad too much like PostgressSQL but hey I'm on a roll, NOT), Revenge of The Slashdot Post - Part 0010, Slash0010 (more properly Slash00000010 but I only felt like a nibble), ReturnPost, ReturnSlash, SlashReturn, Boomerang, I could go on, but I hope my silly selection makes you feel a little better about your own, good luck with the new section ;)
For him, this gamble is a better solution than compromising his right to run his company any way he wants Over here in the UK Directors of companies have to run them in accordance with the law, if they knowingly do anything that might harm the company they are not discharging their duties and can face the courts, Bill G deliberately broke the law in many instances and so would be liable here, doesn't the US have anything similar?
People are lazy, its easier to write inefficient undocumentated code, especially if it is a small project where speed isn't expected to be an issue.
Thats a psychological issue, if you can turn it round in their heads, so that producing good code is a Good Thing, then they'll have much more fun and start bragging how their code passed the code review without a scratch, its certainly fun to watch.
And from the alpha-geeks perspective its the other way around, there are few companies that you really want to work for, most bosses have no clue as to how good you really are, I have walked out of places that wanted to give me IQ tests, after all I only have 8 years professional development under my belt!( I really mess them up when I give them the old Einstien quote about what can be counted and what counts :) Right now, I am happily having fun with coding things I like, for the shear pleasure of proving some ideas ( I have money so I don't actually need a job ), no one understands at all, my parents and freinds have flipped, they think I _must_ have a job to be a functioning member of society, oh the irony here, and heres a thought, why doesn't someone build a geek meter for companies, so we all know which ones we should gravitate towards? Perhaps the boys at /. would be good enough to have it as part of their site ( BTW I'm not going to send you a bill, I'd just like to see the idea happen and I'm sooo deep in other things I don't have the time :)
Anti Patterns: Refactoring Software, Archetectures and Projects in Crisis
ISBN 0-471-19713-0
Excellent book, I would highly recommend getting your bosses a copy or get a copy if you are running a project, its concise, incisive and useful, personally I'd rate it up there with The Mythical Man Month and helps when you need to point out the company is making a classic mistake.
I think an important point is being missed here, something may start out messily hacked together, but as soon as it starts to become important, more people start to evolve it, or someone comes along with a good design and the original code dies while the ideas continue in a new form, the only difference between OSS and closed source is that you get to see how someone else did it to begin with and so you get to see the mistakes and can more effectively create something better, this means OSS can evolve quickly, perhaps the community could run polls on OSS projects, whether its "hack" stage, "evolving" stage or "mature" stage, I'm sure people like SourceForge could add such a feature very easily.
I'm reminded of the Dilbert where the PHB says something similar and after praising his insight they completely ignore him and carry on doing it the same way as before.. just a thought.
Looks like industry analysts are agreeing with me see the ZDNet story below :-
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http://www.zdnet.co.uk/news/2000/16/ns-15062.ht
The EU/EC is having a go at BT, its pretty poor when we have to rely on supra-national entities to save us poor Brits, heres the full story in the Guardian :-
c le/0,4273,4012233,00.html
http://www.guardianunlimited.co.uk/Archive/Arti
The actual percentage of population that will be able to have the service will be lower as many of the lines here in the UK have been DACSed (multiplexed at the street level box) so many people do not have an exclusive line to the exchange and therefore will not be able to have ADSL, this is what happens with a monoploy cuts corners, plus there are not the technical staff available to do the customer installations, right now there are 3 installation technicians in London, where there should be 50 already trained by now, assuming 10 connections done per day per installer (~1 hour to get to the residence and install) that would mean we would have a roll out rate of some 6000 connections in London per year, to connect all Londoners at that rate would take over thousand years, BT don't have a clue, its all nice press releases and not much else.
The problem is that BT has a monopoly on the local loop and our Prime Minister, Mr. Tony Blair has signed an EU (European Union) deal to open it by the end of this year, however this is not being implemented as BT and the regulator OFTEL oppose it (OFTEL is an arm of the government, which it seems to be severely corrupt). What BT have done is to price the retail offering (BTOpenWorld) at a price that means they loose money to the wholesale arm that actually supplies the connection to the retail division and all other ISPs, so crippling other ISPs ability to provide the service at a lower cost and making them heaps of money via the wholesale division, and this is all sanctioned by our freindly government dept. OFTEL.
2 weeks, you are lucky, here on the BT ADSL trial / pre-roll-out service we have daily outages, BTs implementation is BAD, we'll have to wait until next year for local loop unbundling to give us decent service and prices, I might have left the UK by then as I'm so fed up with it.
OFTEL are at best useless, they are supposed to respond to complaints made against telecos within 10 days, I had to wait 150 for some drivel form letter, OFTEL==BT for all intents and purposes, now I understand why people resort to violence against the state, VX anyone??? ;)
Actually I imagine Dredd either kludging a PERL script together, or on a day off, OOing the system, drawing nice UML diagrams and coding in C++, then wasting the entire test team when they disagree with him at the code review, at least they got the date right ..2000AD.
Plus of course, after paying to download an image, I don't see any reason you couldn't simply e-mail it to someone else /.ed? Come to think of it, why not email the sysadmins about doing this sort of thing _before_ a /. article is posted, that way they have a choice loose the server if it gets hammered or allow the info to be propagated via a distributed system like Gnutella, just my tuppence worth.
Why not just copy it throughout GnutellaNet, that way its nicely distributed to all that want it with no one server being
We are an envious, unimaginative, reactive, bigotted, bitter society.
I disagree completely, we are very imaginative, its the institutions and government that are not, and we are no more reactive and bigotted than anywhere else, in fact I would argue less than most, we don't have big neo-fascist movements like mainland Europe, or the USs KKK, and when an injustice happens we stand up and fight like fsck, like with the Poll Tax protests, we have a very distinguished history for standing up against oppression of any sort, for example we had more mercenaries fight in Bosnia than any other country, and they fought for the Bosnians who had no money, but were fighting for freedom, and then there was the Executive Outcomes thing where the government got it right and helped kick out an African dictator and restore a democratic government. We actually have a population that discusses things, I think it has a lot to do with pub culture where people sit and have a pint and discuss the latest happenings local, national and international, I even had an interesting chat with my landlord about the tech economy. There are sections of "Little Englanders", but they are in my expereince few and far between, anyway I hope that puts some perspective on your comments.
The question is, can we claim political asylum as we are being persecuted for our views??
Ok, so how did a comment that is one word correction of the comment above it get a rating of 2? Next someone will tell me its informative.. arggghhhhh....