Most importantly, you seem oblivious of the fact that non-absolute positions (which acknowledge grey areas, like mine) are inherently stronger than absolutist ones.
I mentioned niche anime titles being hard to get and you responded by mentioning that anime in general is available, as if it were something you buy by the ton. The porsche thing was just an analogy.
What might some of those titles be? And no ancient stuff, please- give me names from this decade.
Here's some of my R2 stuff. Some of it has since been released in the US.
Miyu integral set
Seraphim Call
EVA: Air and Heart
Blood
Kaze Makase: Tsukikage Ran
SeiKai no Monsho season 1-3
I don't watch cartoon network any more - after seeing them butcher Tenchi, I decided to stick to DVDs.
just wish I could see you on television, telling a reporter with a straight face: "Ghost In The Shell: SAC would never have been released in the USA unless fansubbers had released it on the internet first.
Sure, but I'd say it like this: 'Ghost in The Shell would have never been released, nor would Princess Mononoke, had it not been for the work of fansubbers making Anime in general accessible to Americans over then past 20 years'. You should be so stupid.
If you look at their handy graph, it looks like fairly linear growth both before and after CAN-SPAM, so blaming the law may be a little out of order.
I dunno about that - if spam growth is unaffected by CAN-SPAM, wouldn't that be a zero-correlation, and wouldn't blaming the law be called for, as its stated purpose is the reduction of spam?
Which shows that they're hurting sales, at least by a tiny amount. After all, some small percentage of the viewers of fansubs might instead buy the $70 Japanese-only DVDs and then hire a translator for their own local use.
Since we're apparently talking about an American company, then no, that isn't hurting sales. If the guys who produce that niche anime want to complain, then let them. Companies like ADV have no standing.
Hey, the 20th century called- they want their global-media attitudes back! The very suggestion that anime isn't widely available to viewers in the USA is ludicrous. Only a small fraction of fansub distribution goes to shows that aren't a absolute lock to get a legal USA release within 2 years.
By that logic, since any asshole can go buy a Porsche Boxster (or, God forbid, a Cayenne), then all Porsches must be available? Good luck with that non-federalized 959.
Some anime isn't widely available, and most of the rest isn't at blockbuster. Once you develop an interest in the stuff that isn't US distro, you get to run over to Japan and buy some DVDs at $40/ea + $20s/h, then you get to find a region switchable DVD player, which isn't easy to get, as US media companies are big on chopping the world into 6 pieces, so they've attempted to convince people that such things are illegal. Global media my ass - call me when Disney releases region 0 stuff and the UK stops complaining about 'grey' DVD imports.
Your scenarios is contrived and ridiculous. Without fansubbers, no anime would be released in the USA. In the case you have described, perhaps 300 of your 10,000 would have already seen it. there's also the question of how many of those 10,000 were turned on to anime by fansubbers - you may be complaining about your losses (150 sales) while ignoring your gains (half of your base heard about this anime thing from a friend or saw some subtitled stuff at a neighbor's house).
Now that I've addressed your points, address mine: how does an American company choose what to license? Leaving aside the 22 minute toy commercials, don't you think they'd check to see which series are popular with american audiences? They can also look at the japanese ratings, but the fansubbers are better from a marketing perspective: popular fansub stuff is likely to be successful. Getting rid of fansubbers may be like shooting yourself in the head.
That's actually an easy argument: The company WILL someday soon sell its DVDs in the USA, so distributing fansubs earlier will cut into their future sales.
Until the fansubbers were well established and started getting US distribution licenses (ADV films was started by fansubbers), the studio had no interest in US distribution. They didn't even know that it was a market.
But for many things that get fansubbed today, neither of those excuses works. Prehaps the strongest example is "Ghost In The Shell", an expensive scifi action series that's still being broadcast in Japan, and which already has DVD and televised releases in the USA. Even back in pre-production 3 years ago, this was a tremendously famous series, and it was obvious there would be a major world-wide market. Yet fansubbers went ahead, set their VCRs, and FTPed raws and subs around the world.
So, one example of fansubbers not acting solely in the interest of an animation studio suddenly proves your point (whatever that is)? They were acting according to the existing agreement - subtitle and distribute until the work is licensed. They aren't just trying to promote anime to the general public - they are trying to get at something that isn't widely available, which any collector can understand.
You mean, other than correctly pointing out that this is an example of ignoring the copyright of the author, grabbing the author's work unnotified, and sending it to the whole world. Yes, it's the whole world, because once it's on the net, it's always available on the net.
In the USA, copyright law has 4 rules that determine whether an infringement has taken place. The most important one is the question of monetary damages. Now, since fansubbers only work on works that are unlicensed in a particular country and ceasae distribution once a work is licensed, I can't see how you would argue for damages.
Marijuana was banned because of the paper industry (go read up on it).
I'd consider a garden variety toker to be fairly innocent.
Are Firearms banned?
Live in DC? They are banned some places and restricted in others. Criminals, being criminals, get them illegally anyway. Gun control has not been shown to reduce crime. Instead, it may increase it.
Blair will plod along in the same way that Bush got re-elected. The alternatives are so appalling - I mean, Kerry, honestly - how can you lose against one of the most hated presidents of all time?
Funny, it almost sounds like Kerry was running against Blair.
Children do not have rights until they are adults and the supreme court has ruled over and over again in favor of the schools in any lawsuit over civil rights sadly.
So the police could arrest your son and hold him for a year without charging him? Do you even realize how ridiculous your position is?
Actually, in real life, governments routinely apply laws to the entire population (banning firearms, banning marijuana) due to the irresponsibility of the few.
And, just like in real life, it only really hurts the innocent.
Your normal handwriting tells your personality; Your signature tells how you want people to think you are. (so a person whose signature is like their handwriting is more likely to be comfortable with themselves)
Do tell. My handwriting is awful and my signature reflects that. Are you saying that, if I worked to improve my handwriting, I would come off as dishonest? I suppose my tendency to write small would indicate a low sense of self worth, too.
Would these be the same Western intelligence agencies who for years overestimated the capabilities of the Soviet Union and were completely blindsided by 9/11?
Probably not - the CIA warned Bush months ahead of time that there was a real risk of terrorists using passenger planes as missiles and Clinton warned him of the risk bin Laden posed as part of the handoff. As for the USSR, better safe than sorry, right?
Because we have about 10 layers of screen scraper type things, which is not fun.
It's not fun, but at least it works (in the scenario I responded to). I don't know your situation, but the other one looked like a political move more than anything.
My card says that it goes over Cirrus and Star. Whether ATM transactions over that network go through Visa, I do not know. I don't see why they would, though.
Or are you saying you have no protection against fraud at the grocery store? Because that would be a ridiculous statement.
You do, but I would expect that it would be through your bank, not visa.
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Most importantly, you seem oblivious of the fact that non-absolute positions (which acknowledge grey areas, like mine) are inherently stronger than absolutist ones.
I mentioned niche anime titles being hard to get and you responded by mentioning that anime in general is available, as if it were something you buy by the ton. The porsche thing was just an analogy.
What might some of those titles be? And no ancient stuff, please- give me names from this decade.
Here's some of my R2 stuff. Some of it has since been released in the US.
- Miyu integral set
- Seraphim Call
- EVA: Air and Heart
- Blood
- Kaze Makase: Tsukikage Ran
- SeiKai no Monsho season 1-3
I don't watch cartoon network any more - after seeing them butcher Tenchi, I decided to stick to DVDs.just wish I could see you on television, telling a reporter with a straight face: "Ghost In The Shell: SAC would never have been released in the USA unless fansubbers had released it on the internet first.
Sure, but I'd say it like this: 'Ghost in The Shell would have never been released, nor would Princess Mononoke, had it not been for the work of fansubbers making Anime in general accessible to Americans over then past 20 years'. You should be so stupid.
If you look at their handy graph, it looks like fairly linear growth both before and after CAN-SPAM, so blaming the law may be a little out of order.
I dunno about that - if spam growth is unaffected by CAN-SPAM, wouldn't that be a zero-correlation, and wouldn't blaming the law be called for, as its stated purpose is the reduction of spam?
Which shows that they're hurting sales, at least by a tiny amount. After all, some small percentage of the viewers of fansubs might instead buy the $70 Japanese-only DVDs and then hire a translator for their own local use.
Since we're apparently talking about an American company, then no, that isn't hurting sales. If the guys who produce that niche anime want to complain, then let them. Companies like ADV have no standing.
Hey, the 20th century called- they want their global-media attitudes back! The very suggestion that anime isn't widely available to viewers in the USA is ludicrous. Only a small fraction of fansub distribution goes to shows that aren't a absolute lock to get a legal USA release within 2 years.
By that logic, since any asshole can go buy a Porsche Boxster (or, God forbid, a Cayenne), then all Porsches must be available? Good luck with that non-federalized 959.
Some anime isn't widely available, and most of the rest isn't at blockbuster. Once you develop an interest in the stuff that isn't US distro, you get to run over to Japan and buy some DVDs at $40/ea + $20s/h, then you get to find a region switchable DVD player, which isn't easy to get, as US media companies are big on chopping the world into 6 pieces, so they've attempted to convince people that such things are illegal. Global media my ass - call me when Disney releases region 0 stuff and the UK stops complaining about 'grey' DVD imports.
Your scenarios is contrived and ridiculous. Without fansubbers, no anime would be released in the USA. In the case you have described, perhaps 300 of your 10,000 would have already seen it. there's also the question of how many of those 10,000 were turned on to anime by fansubbers - you may be complaining about your losses (150 sales) while ignoring your gains (half of your base heard about this anime thing from a friend or saw some subtitled stuff at a neighbor's house).
Now that I've addressed your points, address mine: how does an American company choose what to license? Leaving aside the 22 minute toy commercials, don't you think they'd check to see which series are popular with american audiences? They can also look at the japanese ratings, but the fansubbers are better from a marketing perspective: popular fansub stuff is likely to be successful. Getting rid of fansubbers may be like shooting yourself in the head.
Violence or threat of violence to further political agendas: terrorism
Sorry, that one's been changed. It's now defined as disagreeing with the current administration's policies.
That's actually an easy argument: The company WILL someday soon sell its DVDs in the USA, so distributing fansubs earlier will cut into their future sales.
Until the fansubbers were well established and started getting US distribution licenses (ADV films was started by fansubbers), the studio had no interest in US distribution. They didn't even know that it was a market.
But for many things that get fansubbed today, neither of those excuses works. Prehaps the strongest example is "Ghost In The Shell", an expensive scifi action series that's still being broadcast in Japan, and which already has DVD and televised releases in the USA. Even back in pre-production 3 years ago, this was a tremendously famous series, and it was obvious there would be a major world-wide market. Yet fansubbers went ahead, set their VCRs, and FTPed raws and subs around the world.
So, one example of fansubbers not acting solely in the interest of an animation studio suddenly proves your point (whatever that is)? They were acting according to the existing agreement - subtitle and distribute until the work is licensed. They aren't just trying to promote anime to the general public - they are trying to get at something that isn't widely available, which any collector can understand.
You mean, other than correctly pointing out that this is an example of ignoring the copyright of the author, grabbing the author's work unnotified, and sending it to the whole world. Yes, it's the whole world, because once it's on the net, it's always available on the net.
In the USA, copyright law has 4 rules that determine whether an infringement has taken place. The most important one is the question of monetary damages. Now, since fansubbers only work on works that are unlicensed in a particular country and ceasae distribution once a work is licensed, I can't see how you would argue for damages.
Except, you know, without the quality control and in lower quality.
That's easy - don't bother with Hecto subs.
It does not mean you constitutional rights at school or work. Freedom of speech means you can get fired at work for example.
You can't be expelled for what you say, as a counter example. One obvious exception would be threats of violence.
But can the government lock your son or daughter without trail? Absolutely. If he/she is defined as a terrorist than due processes no longer applies.
That's crap. The bill of rights apply to everybody on US soil, terrorists included.
Marijuana was banned because of the paper industry (go read up on it).
I'd consider a garden variety toker to be fairly innocent.
Are Firearms banned?
Live in DC? They are banned some places and restricted in others. Criminals, being criminals, get them illegally anyway. Gun control has not been shown to reduce crime. Instead, it may increase it.
Blair will plod along in the same way that Bush got re-elected. The alternatives are so appalling - I mean, Kerry, honestly - how can you lose against one of the most hated presidents of all time?
Funny, it almost sounds like Kerry was running against Blair.
Children do not have rights until they are adults and the supreme court has ruled over and over again in favor of the schools in any lawsuit over civil rights sadly.
So the police could arrest your son and hold him for a year without charging him? Do you even realize how ridiculous your position is?
We did publish it ourselves and hand it out.
Looks like you learned the right lesson then.
I'm not sure how it works in the US
School newspapers are not subject to editorial control.
Actually, in real life, governments routinely apply laws to the entire population (banning firearms, banning marijuana) due to the irresponsibility of the few.
And, just like in real life, it only really hurts the innocent.
How can we teach kids about 1st amendment freedoms when principals have 100% editorial control over school papers?
Write the feature anyway. It's not like the principal has editorial control. As a last resort, publish it yourself and distribute it in school.
Communisim was a real threat in the cold war period. "We will bury you." was not a joke.
Sure it was. It referred to the USSR's supposed industrial might - Kruchev was threatening to bury us in Soviet manufactured goods.
Your normal handwriting tells your personality; Your signature tells how you want people to think you are. (so a person whose signature is like their handwriting is more likely to be comfortable with themselves)
Do tell. My handwriting is awful and my signature reflects that. Are you saying that, if I worked to improve my handwriting, I would come off as dishonest? I suppose my tendency to write small would indicate a low sense of self worth, too.
You have a gun but only two bullets, who do you shoot?
Bill, twice. Bono's already dead and Tony'll be savaged by the electorate anyway.
Would these be the same Western intelligence agencies who for years overestimated the capabilities of the Soviet Union and were completely blindsided by 9/11?
Probably not - the CIA warned Bush months ahead of time that there was a real risk of terrorists using passenger planes as missiles and Clinton warned him of the risk bin Laden posed as part of the handoff. As for the USSR, better safe than sorry, right?
The bigger questions is do anyone really need a G5 Powerbook? I guess for the few people that edit movies and Huge graphics files do
I thought they needed lots of ram. Don't they do just fine with the G4?
Because we have about 10 layers of screen scraper type things, which is not fun.
It's not fun, but at least it works (in the scenario I responded to). I don't know your situation, but the other one looked like a political move more than anything.
And all of this was for the sake of dumping terminal screens in favor of nice purty client/server interfaces.
Why not just write a screen scraper that uses the mainframe and presents a shiny new interface? Bet it'd be cheaper and easier to support.
Umm, whose network DOES it go over?
My card says that it goes over Cirrus and Star. Whether ATM transactions over that network go through Visa, I do not know. I don't see why they would, though.
Or are you saying you have no protection against fraud at the grocery store? Because that would be a ridiculous statement.
You do, but I would expect that it would be through your bank, not visa.