Think about it this way; Truck drivers are forced to undergo rigerous driving training (in the form of logged experience and lessons from qualified staff) before they're allowed to sit for their license and operate the tool they use to make a living. Builders are required to undergo at least two years of apprenticeship plus TAFE (think community college) courses before they can build any type of large structure. People who pilot any form of marine vessel are required to sit a test and get their license before they can command a vessel capable of going over a certain speed/weighing more than a certain tonnage. Hell, even short-order *COOKS* are required to undergoe some form of food preperation and service training before most places will give them a job.
And in all those cases, errors can kill or seriously injure someone. It's very hard to kill someone by using a computer, unless you beat them with it.
Creating jobs in countries where 25% of the population is starving to death is not ethical? I think you need to fine-tune your argument a little, man.
Screwing a partner because you can is not ethical - the same company that hired a bunch of Indians because of the low cost will dump them the moment they try to upgrade their lifestyle. When's the last time you heard about a software company from India that wasn't staff augmentation?
I charge about 50% less, simply because I don't have the overhead of my competitors. Most, if not all, of my clients dropped their previous service when they realized that they got better quality, cheaper, than others who were out to gouge.
This isn't about gouging so much as setting expectations - charge too low a price, and people will think something's amiss. It's like selling a new BMW for $15000.
Most stores don't even carry the older stuff like EDO anymore - it's special order and Much more expensive.
At this point, maybe you should upgrade? $500 gets you an ATX motherboard with 1G of ram and a 2.4Ghz P4. $300 can probably get you something less studly, but still quite nice. How much does 256M of EDO ram cost?
Very little research shows that standardization of all kinds promotes the general welfare
Yeah, well common sense says that, once a platform is mature enough that people actually have a concrete idea of what it is, that standard components lower cost and improve reliability. In other words, cellphones are small enough that we can think about hardware interop standards.
I was citing nation-wide search results on monster.com for 'java' or 'c++' which each turned up literally thousands of results.
Now filter out the fake jobs from the likes of Bob Half and company - you get literally hundreds of job listings over the past 6 months - for the entire country. Face it, you get a job by knowing someone who can get you hired.
Troy is a beautiful place to live. Plenty of ways to get into trouble, cheap living in 100 year old buildings, and endless troylets to entertain you.
Ah, Troy, where aggressive townies invade the computer labs and download porn (god forbid that you want to do work on that computer that your tuition paid for... and, just for fun, you might get mugged by that same townie later on so he can get money for pot.
Is it just me or are there a buncha buncha RPI guys on here of late (hi Karthik)?
WTF kind of car are you driving? My MR2 spyder costs me $390/mo and it's hardly an econobox. Hell, you can get a pretty damn nice used car for $7k and that's about $200/mo.
Who's going to go through all that schooling to become a doctor if they don't get paid very much? Who's going to pay for their education? Doesn't matter, as long as it's someone else, right?
The sad part is, student loans aren't even the most expensive part of it - who cares about $200k in loans when your malpractice insurance costs $80k - $200k p.a.?
You have no constitutionally protected rights in a mall, not even your first amendment rights.
Do tell. I do have first ammendment rights - here's a cite. I also have most of the rest of my rights - I may not be able to carry a firearm around in a mall, but I can't be illegally searched either. I would assume that your cite on the first ammendment limitations apply more to disruptive activities, which protests certainly are.
Okay, I'm not a lawyer. But I don't know of ANY copyright infringment case where end users were held liable.
well, Microsoft recently got in trouble with some code they licensed for SQL server. They failed to buy enough rights and left their users open to liability.
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I would REALLY like to see someone file a class-action suit against these clowns
Nah, better to have SCO defend themselves against 200 individual actions.
Think about it this way; Truck drivers are forced to undergo rigerous driving training (in the form of logged experience and lessons from qualified staff) before they're allowed to sit for their license and operate the tool they use to make a living. Builders are required to undergo at least two years of apprenticeship plus TAFE (think community college) courses before they can build any type of large structure. People who pilot any form of marine vessel are required to sit a test and get their license before they can command a vessel capable of going over a certain speed/weighing more than a certain tonnage. Hell, even short-order *COOKS* are required to undergoe some form of food preperation and service training before most places will give them a job.
And in all those cases, errors can kill or seriously injure someone. It's very hard to kill someone by using a computer, unless you beat them with it.
And what electronics are made in the US?
McKintosh amplifiers. Any other questions?
Creating jobs in countries where 25% of the population is starving to death is not ethical? I think you need to fine-tune your argument a little, man.
Screwing a partner because you can is not ethical - the same company that hired a bunch of Indians because of the low cost will dump them the moment they try to upgrade their lifestyle. When's the last time you heard about a software company from India that wasn't staff augmentation?
ummm... I wouldn't hire you at this point.
So, you're saying that you only hire people who like to work weekends on no notice. Really, who cares if you'de hire him or not?
I charge about 50% less, simply because I don't have the overhead of my competitors. Most, if not all, of my clients dropped their previous service when they realized that they got better quality, cheaper, than others who were out to gouge.
This isn't about gouging so much as setting expectations - charge too low a price, and people will think something's amiss. It's like selling a new BMW for $15000.
Most stores don't even carry the older stuff like EDO anymore - it's special order and Much more expensive.
At this point, maybe you should upgrade? $500 gets you an ATX motherboard with 1G of ram and a 2.4Ghz P4. $300 can probably get you something less studly, but still quite nice. How much does 256M of EDO ram cost?
Very little research shows that standardization of all kinds promotes the general welfare
Yeah, well common sense says that, once a platform is mature enough that people actually have a concrete idea of what it is, that standard components lower cost and improve reliability. In other words, cellphones are small enough that we can think about hardware interop standards.
I was citing nation-wide search results on monster.com for 'java' or 'c++' which each turned up literally thousands of results.
Now filter out the fake jobs from the likes of Bob Half and company - you get literally hundreds of job listings over the past 6 months - for the entire country. Face it, you get a job by knowing someone who can get you hired.
I just wonder if they really needed to go there or if they just wanted an excuse to go to the driest place on earth?
Then why didn't they just go to Utah?
Infinite free energy, along with infinite free labor, = socialism/communism, just like the P2P networks.
You say that like it's a bad thing. You are, of course, still free to be a dirt farmer, you just won't have to.
Explain the remaining $19 a month.
Well, you spent $1 on the CPU, so you spent $2 on cooling. The other $17 is probably traceable to your A/C - that's 3kW.
Yeah, God save us from engineers with experience in non-technical jobs.
Nah, God save us from car salesmen writing application software.
Troy is a beautiful place to live. Plenty of ways to get into trouble, cheap living in 100 year old buildings, and endless troylets to entertain you.
Ah, Troy, where aggressive townies invade the computer labs and download porn (god forbid that you want to do work on that computer that your tuition paid for... and, just for fun, you might get mugged by that same townie later on so he can get money for pot.
Is it just me or are there a buncha buncha RPI guys on here of late (hi Karthik)?
A car payment for a subcompact might be $500.
WTF kind of car are you driving? My MR2 spyder costs me $390/mo and it's hardly an econobox. Hell, you can get a pretty damn nice used car for $7k and that's about $200/mo.
Who's going to go through all that schooling to become a doctor if they don't get paid very much? Who's going to pay for their education? Doesn't matter, as long as it's someone else, right?
The sad part is, student loans aren't even the most expensive part of it - who cares about $200k in loans when your malpractice insurance costs $80k - $200k p.a.?
We've found a Microsoft employee, may we burn him?
Only if he's made of wood.
You have no constitutionally protected rights in a mall, not even your first amendment rights.
Do tell. I do have first ammendment rights - here's a cite. I also have most of the rest of my rights - I may not be able to carry a firearm around in a mall, but I can't be illegally searched either. I would assume that your cite on the first ammendment limitations apply more to disruptive activities, which protests certainly are.
Good thing malls are privately owned.
Malls are still public places.
Things like IPSEC and such do not work through nat without non-standard encapuslation and such.
IIRC, IPSEC was deliberately designed to not work with NAT because the designers had a grudge against NAT.
Okay, I'm not a lawyer. But I don't know of ANY copyright infringment case where end users were held liable.
well, Microsoft recently got in trouble with some code they licensed for SQL server. They failed to buy enough rights and left their users open to liability.
You left one out:
999 Open a rift to a random dimension
Iceland, the new Albania.
Yeah, but does Albania have Bjork? Answer me that!
Hate to break this to you, but "Hollywood" is one of the biggest businesses in the world.
It's a $50bn industry - that's peanuts. The computer industry is at least $500bn.
do they have corprate run prisons in the US now? or is that still all sci-fi stuff?
No, it's scientology. Seriously, they run some of the prisons in california.