oh come on. puh lease don't compare charity to the poor and the sick to a bunch of ego-driven hackers who want to reinvent the wheel just so that they don't have to pay for Photoshop or whatever. You also can't deny the fact that even Mr. Evil Bill Gates himself gives more money to real charities than all of the FSF members combined. Technology is something else-I think MS is stifling it. But they are helping people who are worse off than you and me. People who are too sick to get out of bed-let alone use the internet
what's immoral about CDE? Do they support the killing of children in Rwanda or something?
Can't they be labeled correctly?
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- People who broke into other computers were sometimes called hackers, but they did it using pure wits and skill. Hardly ever did they damage a system, they just wanted free computer time, or to be able to connect to another computer without paying for a LD call. Few 'hackers' broke into machines or networks, but those that did were almost always just having fun. True, I don't want anyone to have fun on my machine, but they were at most trespassers.. annoyances. - It's still illegal and an invasion of privacy. Let them burn-I don't care. Would you tolerate it if someone looked into your emails or browser cache to see what you were up to?
I always thought the difference between hackers and crackers is that a cracker does physical damage to the system while a hacker tries to gain illegal/inappropriate access to the system. Privacy is a big thing for me-I'd be pissed if someone erased my hard drive but I'd also be pretty upset if someone read my emails or followed my web surfing Now people who try to port linux to my commodore 64 are not hackers. They are nerds.:)
I'd like to see a study on the cost of carpal tunnel syndrome due to qwerty vs dvorak. To me, that's much more important than the benefits of a higher typing speed.
- Like it or lump it, Mozilla's biggest problem is that their competition actually has out right now something that may be superior to most of what they are still building. Like it or lump it, IE is pretty slick. - You'd have a point if you mentioned Opera instead of IE as mozilla's competition. Opera has the best CSS compliance so far and is pretty small to boot. Personally I don't see how IE5 or Opera can compete with mozilla once it ships. I'm willing to be patient
that's right-it has nothing to do with linux and actually hurts Redhat's reputation in the business world. Linux is the only non-MS OS that actually has a chance in the corporate world and these guys are blowing it
I don't think all software should be free-I think all software should be better and if the open software is better than your commercial stuff then too bad for you. But if the commercial stuff is better then most people will buy your stuff but the free alternative will survive. It won't dominate but it won't be "put out of business". That's an important advantage over superior non-free stuff but I don't think it's an unfair advantage. It's certainly better than people pirating the commercial stuff
why should they be pissed if they create a better product? Is Adobe pissed because gimp is free? No-because Photoshop is better than gimp. It's called competition.
ok so jwz left. That's terrible because he was one of the project's biggest supporters. But why does everyone think the whole world is falling apart when mozilla is doing so well? The gtk group is mostly non-mozilla and is quite successful (oh yeah jwz was very pro-motif). The java mozilla is still alive and kicking even though jwz predicted they would give up due to failure. Doczilla is a commercial SGML/Hytime browser based on mozilla code and they have just released a tutorial on working with mozilla code. Be Inc has hired a full time engineer to work on bezilla (their site has some interesting screenshots). There's even an amiga mozilla port underway...no actually there are two! And let's not forget all the bug reports submitted by people from all over. So don't tell ME that nobody is interested in working with the mozilla code when there are people working really deep into the code-not just cutesy changes but you can now have fun with XUL anyway...
that just shows how little you know about mozilla. IE5's CSS1 is sorely lacking compared to the m3 build. And it actually supports the w3c DOM unlike IE
it's about time. Linux with a GUI AND an easier install (thanks to Partition Magic bundle) AND real support from Caldera
I want to point out that Bleem is 100% assembly code
have you heard of doczilla? oh it's not from linux coders but it's not Netscape either and that's the point
yeah but when you shoot someone with a squirt gun, does blood and body parts fly out all over the place?
oh come on. puh lease don't compare charity to the poor and the sick to a bunch of ego-driven hackers who want to reinvent the wheel just so that they don't have to pay for Photoshop or whatever. You also can't deny the fact that even Mr. Evil Bill Gates himself gives more money to real charities than all of the FSF members combined. Technology is something else-I think MS is stifling it. But they are helping people who are worse off than you and me. People who are too sick to get out of bed-let alone use the internet
what's immoral about CDE? Do they support the killing of children in Rwanda or something?
- People who broke into other computers were sometimes called hackers, but they did it using pure wits and skill. Hardly ever did they damage a system, they just wanted free computer time, or to be able to connect to another computer without paying for a LD call. Few 'hackers' broke into machines or networks, but those that did were almost always just having fun. True, I don't want anyone to have fun on my machine, but they were at most trespassers.. annoyances. - It's still illegal and an invasion of privacy. Let them burn-I don't care. Would you tolerate it if someone looked into your emails or browser cache to see what you were up to?
I always thought the difference between hackers and crackers is that a cracker does physical damage to the system while a hacker tries to gain illegal/inappropriate access to the system. Privacy is a big thing for me-I'd be pissed if someone erased my hard drive but I'd also be pretty upset if someone read my emails or followed my web surfing Now people who try to port linux to my commodore 64 are not hackers. They are nerds. :)
remember those Apple commercials with the bunny suit guy burning up? How ironic
I'd like to see a study on the cost of carpal tunnel syndrome due to qwerty vs dvorak. To me, that's much more important than the benefits of a higher typing speed.
- Like it or lump it, Mozilla's biggest problem is that their competition actually has out right now something that may be superior to most of what they are still building. Like it or lump it, IE is pretty slick. - You'd have a point if you mentioned Opera instead of IE as mozilla's competition. Opera has the best CSS compliance so far and is pretty small to boot. Personally I don't see how IE5 or Opera can compete with mozilla once it ships. I'm willing to be patient
I'm sure there are more VB coders than all of those combined :) polls shmolls
but George Lucas will make it all up
I think it's more about the slashdot First! kiddies
that's right-it has nothing to do with linux and actually hurts Redhat's reputation in the business world. Linux is the only non-MS OS that actually has a chance in the corporate world and these guys are blowing it
I don't think all software should be free-I think all software should be better and if the open software is better than your commercial stuff then too bad for you. But if the commercial stuff is better then most people will buy your stuff but the free alternative will survive. It won't dominate but it won't be "put out of business". That's an important advantage over superior non-free stuff but I don't think it's an unfair advantage. It's certainly better than people pirating the commercial stuff
that's nonsense. people will just stick with windows if linux can't run their apps
why should they be pissed if they create a better product? Is Adobe pissed because gimp is free? No-because Photoshop is better than gimp. It's called competition.
what if you have an entire company full of computers? get a job! heh-an extra pc for everyone is stupid and bulky
hmm why not just work on wine which already allows you to run and port windows apps. It's free, it's out now and you can even play some games on it
ok so jwz left. That's terrible because he was one of the project's biggest supporters. But why does everyone think the whole world is falling apart when mozilla is doing so well? The gtk group is mostly non-mozilla and is quite successful (oh yeah jwz was very pro-motif). The java mozilla is still alive and kicking even though jwz predicted they would give up due to failure. Doczilla is a commercial SGML/Hytime browser based on mozilla code and they have just released a tutorial on working with mozilla code. Be Inc has hired a full time engineer to work on bezilla (their site has some interesting screenshots). There's even an amiga mozilla port underway...no actually there are two! And let's not forget all the bug reports submitted by people from all over. So don't tell ME that nobody is interested in working with the mozilla code when there are people working really deep into the code-not just cutesy changes but you can now have fun with XUL anyway...
that just shows how little you know about mozilla. IE5's CSS1 is sorely lacking compared to the m3 build. And it actually supports the w3c DOM unlike IE
hey I'm not dead. I started my site almost when the mozilla code was first released and I'm still kicking at http://members.xoom.com/mozilla5
well duh since mozilla is open then you won't have AOL in your browser in the first place
usually website crackers change the content to make their point instead of taking it down. Therefore I think it probably was just a hardware problem.