Hey! i got it.. if we all clicked on all the ads and links in spam email would we/. them? if so.. would it technically be a dos attack? hehe... another way to stop spam i guess..
ok.. so they chip my pc to id itself.. with this id they can track my web habbits... software installed ect ect... if i wished to become anonymous.. i'd have to find either some hardware or software bypass for it...
would this be a violation of the dcma? yep the dcma can be applied to everything.. even sex.. sue the semen that bypassed that condom!
well.. the webmaster asks me to look at pages in mozilla since i'm the only one with a linux box at work.. and he doesnt bother to fix a few flaws because ie does not show them.. (the flaw being something in a javascript and tables causing a 1/8th of an inch offset throwing graphics out... The standard is now set my m$.. if mozilla wants to take it they have to be able to display everything as good if not better than ie.. and do it faster, more stable, and better... untill then mozilla/netscrape users are going to have to put up with pages made for ie... I fully expect to see mozilla/netscape feautures in ie soon . (such as ability to kill popup windows and tabbed browsing..)
It's probably the best 10 seconds being repeated so it works out in the end....
Of course the best annoyance i read about was how some people kept uploading fake blank videos in the couple of hundred megs and posted them as current movies.. such as ep2.. lord of the rings.. spiderman ect... hehe i'll bet there were a bunch of really pissed off kids on 28.8 modems dling that...
ok so it handles 64 bit.. but to the averagce consumre (aka gamer) Biig woopdey do.. i mean it has to "back down" to 32 bit mode so i can play counterstrike and other games....
Games and software are writen: to the lowest common dinominator.. i'm not saying there wont be ports of some games to 64 bit but... come on..
let me remind you of a presidence set many many years ago...
Commodore 128.. oh yea rember this baby? well how many games did you have to reboot to c64 emu bc they would not work in 128 mode? about 80-90% of em... same thing will happen to the claw...
She may be great for server.. and heavy workload.. but i dont expect it to make sweepeing changes in the gaming industry... only way that would happen if intel also rose to the challenge and put out a comparable proccessor...
then most gamging companies would goahead and write for 64 bit....
This got me thinking.... yes it's dangerous.. but...
If i were to write a website that had uniqe content and it would be content everyone would want to see.. but could some way make it so no one ealse could post this content.. (i know impossible for the web but not tv.. but hear me out) and in the mean time in the click thru to enter my site i in the background installed spyware that poped ads on to your desktop when not even surfing the web...
use the claim that i have the right to adversie since you accessed my website's content.. aka you got to watch my tv show so you ahve to read the ads i pop on your screen...
same buisness model... different medium...
I hope.. one day... people will stop trying to push their thoughts/ideals/products on my home build computer... i dint build it to be advertised to i built it so i could have fun...
that's why i was thinking of something that would be projected by the digital projector and would only be picked up by the cam...
one interesting thing.. i managed to go to a primier setup by a radio station and the audience was warned that there were undercover fbi agents in the audience looking for people attempting to record or take pictures during the movie.
a joke was made to the effect of... " now would be a good time to snap a picture using the camera infront of your wife if ya wanted to get rid of her..."
still..
maybe just maybe..somehow place hidden images that when the movie is compiled from a cam to mpeg or to divx makes the file unplayable... doubt full that would work thou...
never thought of this... maybe if they used some sort of ir lights comming from the screen it would make the movie un cammable... and only a few cameras could be used to cam a movie...
i'm waiting till they hide a subliminal watermark in the digial version (maybe able to be done with 35mm.. that will only be seen when a movie is cammed..
ie human eye can't see it but when a camcorder records it and plays it back it covers the screen.. just imagine.. next time someone watches a camed movie it says busted right across the middle of the screen in big letters..
and http, irc, usnet, e-mail, hell the internet.. floppy drives.. cdr's, cdrw, vcrs, keyboards (retype the code of said item in another pc.) monitors (can't have you looking at the code now can we).. umm.. now bout hands (you use those to type on the keyboard or construct some new input device...), well you get my drift..
dont think so.. you are circumventing a security device... but you are not using said code that is protected.. I'ts more of an invasion of privacy really... If your Girlfriend wanted to send you nekkid pics of her she'd have to know someone ealse would see the pictures before you got them..
how bout your mail.. no not your e-mail.. but every package.. every envelope in the mail system can possibly carry child pornography
will you submit all of it to be scrutinized by someone just to help fight child pornography?
same with your electronic mail.
why not go further.. what about all items you buy...
to make somone responsible for you breaking the law is not very responsible legislature..
to pass a sweeping law without actually instituting methods to be required to follow is poorly written law..
with this new law could a larger more prominent isp claim that a smaller mom/pop isp allowed some users to get such material thus shutting them down and taking their customers?
The point i'm trying to make is that this law thou meant to stop something bad.. not only will fail at it's aimed target but also cause problems for the isp/public internet service.
and if you read all my posts you would see i proposed the only method possible that i can think of to stop and catch such illegal data transfer.
"2 (A) GENERAL RULE.--AN INTERNET SERVICE PROVIDER SHALL REMOVE --
3 OR DISABLE ACCESS TO CHILD PORNOGRAPHY ITEMS RESIDING ON OR
4 ACCESSIBLE THROUGH ITS SERVICE IN A MANNER ACCESSIBLE TO PERSONS
5 LOCATED WITHIN THIS COMMONWEALTH WITHIN FIVE BUSINESS DAYS OF
6 WHEN THE INTERNET SERVICE PROVIDER IS NOTIFIED BY THE ATTORNEY
7 GENERAL PURSUANT TO SUBSECTION (G) THAT CHILD PORNOGRAPHY ITEMS
8 RESIDE ON OR ARE ACCESSIBLE THROUGH ITS SERVICE."
the isp will be required to actively monitor data flow... Wich means if users are encryptying their data WHATEVER it may be.. the isp will be required to be able to monitor that data.
not good... also note this places the responsibility on the isp not the webhosts or clients... (thou they should go after those afterall...)
reading up on this law.. hrmm.. now.. how to enforce:
2 (A) GENERAL RULE.--AN INTERNET SERVICE PROVIDER SHALL REMOVE --
3 OR DISABLE ACCESS TO CHILD PORNOGRAPHY ITEMS RESIDING ON OR
4 ACCESSIBLE THROUGH ITS SERVICE IN A MANNER ACCESSIBLE TO PERSONS
5 LOCATED WITHIN THIS COMMONWEALTH WITHIN FIVE BUSINESS DAYS OF
6 WHEN THE INTERNET SERVICE PROVIDER IS NOTIFIED BY THE ATTORNEY
7 GENERAL PURSUANT TO SUBSECTION (G) THAT CHILD PORNOGRAPHY ITEMS
8 RESIDE ON OR ARE ACCESSIBLE THROUGH ITS SERVICE.
Now to do this you must watch the data going from the client out.. and/or block know sites with a firewall or require all clients to go trhu a proxy you run (or gov runs)
9 (B) PROTECTION OF PRIVACY.--NOTHING IN THIS SECTION MAY BE
10 CONSTRUED AS IMPOSING A DUTY ON AN INTERNET SERVICE PROVIDER TO
11 ACTIVELY MONITOR ITS SERVICE OR AFFIRMATIVELY SEEK EVIDENCE OF
12 ILLEGAL ACTIVITY ON ITS SERVICE.
so how do we "remove or disable access to child pornograph..." without monitoring active data? ok firewall blocks known sites.. but to require the isp to actively block all child pornography will require the isp to watch all data going throug it's network and actively block it if it infringes on the law.
If the isp fails in blocking data the following happens..
13 (C) PENALTY.--NOTWITHSTANDING ANY OTHER PROVISION OF LAW TO
14 THE CONTRARY, ANY INTERNET SERVICE PROVIDER WHO VIOLATES
15 SUBSECTION (A) COMMITS:
16 (1) A MISDEMEANOR OF THE THIRD DEGREE FOR A FIRST
17 OFFENSE PUNISHABLE BY A FINE OF $5,000.
18 (2) A MISDEMEANOR OF THE SECOND DEGREE FOR A SECOND
19 OFFENSE PUNISHABLE BY A FINE OF $20,000.
20 (3) A FELONY OF THE THIRD DEGREE FOR A THIRD OR
21 SUBSEQUENT OFFENSE PUNISHABLE BY A FINE OF $30,000 AND
22 IMPRISONMENT FOR A MAXIMUM OF SEVEN YEARS.
note the line that reads " 14 THE CONTRARY, ANY INTERNET SERVICE PROVIDER WHO VIOLATES"
Not the web host that has the data.. not the user using the client.. But the ISP providing the service to the client...
1. is the backbone an isp? (i think so.. they provide net servcie to someone)
2. aol is an isp.. duh.. and all the mom/pop ones as well
The only true way for it to be monitored and proven is to have some sort of choke point where all net traffic in penn must go thru.. and there it is monitored...
to say just block the sites won't work.. you have to controll the flow of the data and scrutinize it.. then you can block it..
then again.. would it be illegal to encrypt your data you send out? or would you have to give up the encription to whom ever gets to monitor your data going in/out of penn?
but if the web proxy is not in penn.. then that person does not have to abide by that law? after all he's not there in penn.. what if the web proxy is in korea... well you get my drift... Hardly enforceable...
But having child pornography in your possesions is illegal just go after the pedofiles and get a search order for their computers.. nuff said.. but then how would you monitor data in penn..
I know State Run Web Proxies that ISPs and librarires ect.. MUST forward all traffic to.. Then the state can log ip and data xfered... hrmm.. brig brother knows what you are doing on the net...
bad idea.. and then only then could the state pin the people whom receive and send the data.. otherwise they are wasting their time...
aka if a stat says you can't see this... and isps have to follow.. then everyone ealse who has a net connection provided for others must follow as well...
now the question is what if somone in pensilvenia uses some sort of web proxy to view such pages.. hrmm makes the isp still liable? does that mean that the isp has to block all web proxies out there.. oh what a mess this will be..
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but i thought peta stood for People Eating Tasty Animals.. hrmm... now if i can get a p2/450 with a side of coleslaw and 2 buiscuits...
Hey! i got it.. if we all clicked on all the ads and links in spam email would we /. them? if so .. would it technically be a dos attack? hehe ... another way to stop spam i guess..
ok .. so they chip my pc to id itself.. with this id they can track my web habbits... software installed ect ect... if i wished to become anonymous.. i'd have to find either some hardware or software bypass for it...
would this be a violation of the dcma? yep the dcma can be applied to everything.. even sex.. sue the semen that bypassed that condom!
well .. the webmaster asks me to look at pages in mozilla since i'm the only one with a linux box at work .. and he doesnt bother to fix a few flaws because ie does not show them .. (the flaw being something in a javascript and tables causing a 1/8th of an inch offset throwing graphics out ... The standard is now set my m$ .. if mozilla wants to take it they have to be able to display everything as good if not better than ie .. and do it faster, more stable, and better... untill then mozilla/netscrape users are going to have to put up with pages made for ie ... I fully expect to see mozilla/netscape feautures in ie soon . (such as ability to kill popup windows and tabbed browsing..)
I'ts not a virus/spyware.. it's a feature that enhances your web experience.
It's probably the best 10 seconds being repeated so it works out in the end....
.. such as ep2 .. lord of the rings.. spiderman ect... hehe i'll bet there were a bunch of really pissed off kids on 28.8 modems dling that ...
Of course the best annoyance i read about was how some people kept uploading fake blank videos in the couple of hundred megs and posted them as current movies
ok so it handles 64 bit.. but to the averagce consumre (aka gamer) Biig woopdey do .. i mean it has to "back down" to 32 bit mode so i can play counterstrike and other games....
..
.. oh yea rember this baby? well how many games did you have to reboot to c64 emu bc they would not work in 128 mode? about 80-90% of em ... same thing will happen to the claw...
.. and heavy workload .. but i dont expect it to make sweepeing changes in the gaming industry... only way that would happen if intel also rose to the challenge and put out a comparable proccessor...
....
Games and software are writen: to the lowest common dinominator.. i'm not saying there wont be ports of some games to 64 bit but... come on
let me remind you of a presidence set many many years ago...
Commodore 128
She may be great for server
then most gamging companies would goahead and write for 64 bit
This got me thinking.... yes it's dangerous.. but...
.. one day ... people will stop trying to push their thoughts/ideals/products on my home build computer... i dint build it to be advertised to i built it so i could have fun...
If i were to write a website that had uniqe content and it would be content everyone would want to see.. but could some way make it so no one ealse could post this content.. (i know impossible for the web but not tv.. but hear me out) and in the mean time in the click thru to enter my site i in the background installed spyware that poped ads on to your desktop when not even surfing the web...
use the claim that i have the right to adversie since you accessed my website's content.. aka you got to watch my tv show so you ahve to read the ads i pop on your screen...
same buisness model... different medium...
I hope
just my 2 cnets worth about the subject
that's why i was thinking of something that would be projected by the digital projector and would only be picked up by the cam...
... " now would be a good time to snap a picture using the camera infront of your wife if ya wanted to get rid of her..."
one interesting thing.. i managed to go to a primier setup by a radio station and the audience was warned that there were undercover fbi agents in the audience looking for people attempting to record or take pictures during the movie.
a joke was made to the effect of
still..
maybe just maybe..somehow place hidden images that when the movie is compiled from a cam to mpeg or to divx makes the file unplayable... doubt full that would work thou...
never thought of this... maybe if they used some sort of ir lights comming from the screen it would make the movie un cammable... and only a few cameras could be used to cam a movie...
the cam wars has just begun...
i'm waiting till they hide a subliminal watermark in the digial version (maybe able to be done with 35mm .. that will only be seen when a movie is cammed..
.. next time someone watches a camed movie it says busted right across the middle of the screen in big letters..
ie human eye can't see it but when a camcorder records it and plays it back it covers the screen.. just imagine
the question is can they pull that off??
and http, irc, usnet, e-mail, hell the internet.. floppy drives.. cdr's, cdrw, vcrs, keyboards (retype the code of said item in another pc.) monitors (can't have you looking at the code now can we).. umm .. now bout hands (you use those to type on the keyboard or construct some new input device...), well you get my drift..
Is it open source? if it can be recreated or used can the mpaa or riaa take it copywright it and sue everyone for breaching the dcma?
..
heh
dont think so .. you are circumventing a security device... but you are not using said code that is protected.. I'ts more of an invasion of privacy really... If your Girlfriend wanted to send you nekkid pics of her she'd have to know someone ealse would see the pictures before you got them ..
true.. what i meant to say is that the isp will need to be able to see the encrypted data to see if it is data that the law requires them to block..
if so that means the data you dont want other people to see will be seen by a few..
ok so you are for this law...
.. but every package.. every envelope in the mail system can possibly carry child pornography
.. what about all items you buy...
.. not only will fail at it's aimed target but also cause problems for the isp/public internet service.
just 1 question...
how bout your mail.. no not your e-mail
will you submit all of it to be scrutinized by someone just to help fight child pornography?
same with your electronic mail.
why not go further
to make somone responsible for you breaking the law is not very responsible legislature..
to pass a sweeping law without actually instituting methods to be required to follow is poorly written law..
with this new law could a larger more prominent isp claim that a smaller mom/pop isp allowed some users to get such material thus shutting them down and taking their customers?
The point i'm trying to make is that this law thou meant to stop something bad
and if you read all my posts you would see i proposed the only method possible that i can think of to stop and catch such illegal data transfer.
note the line that reads " 14 THE CONTRARY, ANY INTERNET SERVICE PROVIDER WHO VIOLATES"
.. not the user using the client .. But the ISP providing the service to the client...
Not the web host that has the data
if you read in the law passed...
.. the isp will be required to be able to monitor that data.
"2 (A) GENERAL RULE.--AN INTERNET SERVICE PROVIDER SHALL REMOVE --
3 OR DISABLE ACCESS TO CHILD PORNOGRAPHY ITEMS RESIDING ON OR
4 ACCESSIBLE THROUGH ITS SERVICE IN A MANNER ACCESSIBLE TO PERSONS
5 LOCATED WITHIN THIS COMMONWEALTH WITHIN FIVE BUSINESS DAYS OF
6 WHEN THE INTERNET SERVICE PROVIDER IS NOTIFIED BY THE ATTORNEY
7 GENERAL PURSUANT TO SUBSECTION (G) THAT CHILD PORNOGRAPHY ITEMS
8 RESIDE ON OR ARE ACCESSIBLE THROUGH ITS SERVICE."
the isp will be required to actively monitor data flow... Wich means if users are encryptying their data WHATEVER it may be
not good... also note this places the responsibility on the isp not the webhosts or clients... (thou they should go after those afterall...)
reading up on this law.. hrmm.. now.. how to enforce :
.. and/or block know sites with a firewall or require all clients to go trhu a proxy you run (or gov runs)
.. but to require the isp to actively block all child pornography will require the isp to watch all data going throug it's network and actively block it if it infringes on the law.
.. not the user using the client .. But the ISP providing the service to the client...
2 (A) GENERAL RULE.--AN INTERNET SERVICE PROVIDER SHALL REMOVE --
3 OR DISABLE ACCESS TO CHILD PORNOGRAPHY ITEMS RESIDING ON OR
4 ACCESSIBLE THROUGH ITS SERVICE IN A MANNER ACCESSIBLE TO PERSONS
5 LOCATED WITHIN THIS COMMONWEALTH WITHIN FIVE BUSINESS DAYS OF
6 WHEN THE INTERNET SERVICE PROVIDER IS NOTIFIED BY THE ATTORNEY
7 GENERAL PURSUANT TO SUBSECTION (G) THAT CHILD PORNOGRAPHY ITEMS
8 RESIDE ON OR ARE ACCESSIBLE THROUGH ITS SERVICE.
Now to do this you must watch the data going from the client out
9 (B) PROTECTION OF PRIVACY.--NOTHING IN THIS SECTION MAY BE
10 CONSTRUED AS IMPOSING A DUTY ON AN INTERNET SERVICE PROVIDER TO
11 ACTIVELY MONITOR ITS SERVICE OR AFFIRMATIVELY SEEK EVIDENCE OF
12 ILLEGAL ACTIVITY ON ITS SERVICE.
so how do we "remove or disable access to child pornograph..." without monitoring active data? ok firewall blocks known sites
If the isp fails in blocking data the following happens..
13 (C) PENALTY.--NOTWITHSTANDING ANY OTHER PROVISION OF LAW TO
14 THE CONTRARY, ANY INTERNET SERVICE PROVIDER WHO VIOLATES
15 SUBSECTION (A) COMMITS:
16 (1) A MISDEMEANOR OF THE THIRD DEGREE FOR A FIRST
17 OFFENSE PUNISHABLE BY A FINE OF $5,000.
18 (2) A MISDEMEANOR OF THE SECOND DEGREE FOR A SECOND
19 OFFENSE PUNISHABLE BY A FINE OF $20,000.
20 (3) A FELONY OF THE THIRD DEGREE FOR A THIRD OR
21 SUBSEQUENT OFFENSE PUNISHABLE BY A FINE OF $30,000 AND
22 IMPRISONMENT FOR A MAXIMUM OF SEVEN YEARS.
note the line that reads " 14 THE CONTRARY, ANY INTERNET SERVICE PROVIDER WHO VIOLATES"
Not the web host that has the data
Then you get into the debate of who is an isp ..
.. they provide net servcie to someone)
.. duh .. and all the mom/pop ones as well
.. and there it is monitored...
.. then you can block it..
1. is the backbone an isp? (i think so
2. aol is an isp
The only true way for it to be monitored and proven is to have some sort of choke point where all net traffic in penn must go thru
to say just block the sites won't work.. you have to controll the flow of the data and scrutinize it
then again.. would it be illegal to encrypt your data you send out? or would you have to give up the encription to whom ever gets to monitor your data going in/out of penn?
but if the web proxy is not in penn .. then that person does not have to abide by that law? after all he's not there in penn.. what if the web proxy is in korea ... well you get my drift... Hardly enforceable...
.. but then how would you monitor data in penn ..
.. MUST forward all traffic to.. Then the state can log ip and data xfered ... hrmm .. brig brother knows what you are doing on the net...
But having child pornography in your possesions is illegal just go after the pedofiles and get a search order for their computers.. nuff said
I know State Run Web Proxies that ISPs and librarires ect
bad idea.. and then only then could the state pin the people whom receive and send the data.. otherwise they are wasting their time...
aka if a stat says you can't see this... and isps have to follow .. then everyone ealse who has a net connection provided for others must follow as well...
.. oh what a mess this will be..
now the question is what if somone in pensilvenia uses some sort of web proxy to view such pages.. hrmm makes the isp still liable? does that mean that the isp has to block all web proxies out there
no .. he's gonna be an : Ub3r H4X0r D00d with a pain in his ass. :)
i'd watch a 3 hour lick barney's pussy special mixing xmas thanks giving and new years together if it showed milla jovavich nekkid in it :)
and i rejoiced the day the came up with the ability to resume a transfer..