Well manning should have sought protection under those laws. Except that when the Army stamps classified on something the judge who enforces the law can't legally see that a crime was uncovered.
The govt writes the laws, so gives itself loopholes when it doesn't like those laws.
The flat LEGAL answer is that Manning committed a crime (or Civil Disobedience...from a war zone) when he sent those first documents. He clearly did that all on his own without this Lamo guy involved.
Lamo kept hearing the guy brag and decided to turn him in. It's the Internet, there's no way to know if somebody was bragging... Until he saw that it wasn't bragging.
At that point it's your DUTY to call in the suspicion. The DoD gets zillions of "suspicious" reports a year.. If there wasn't anything to FIND Manning wouldn't be in military prison.
The more I see this debte, the more I realize much of LOTR was Tolkien's personal "fan fiction". It was stuff he wrote down for fun.. Mostly to practice applying "archeology" skills for languages and myths. Languages and history is what he taught at university, tracing back origins of languages and myths to the events and people that it happened to. LOTR was some fun working "backwards" with the same principals to build his personal LARP.
I begging to agree with George R R Martin in that he's going to wrap up his "Song of Fire and Ice" (and cash in on whatever he's still got) then torch the rest of the notes so only the published books remain... No more going back and rewriting things long after he's dead.
I wonder why this is news... I guess it's a good time to invest in ENTERPRISE level storage!!
The Hobbit was shot in 5k resolution, and in "true 3D" with two cameras on every mount. And shot at 48fps (5k x 48 fps x 2 cameras) is MASSIVE film stock. Add multiple shoots for setup, testing lights, and then the actual acting. Not to mention all the digital elements that have to be stocked at high resolution as well.
Yup that's a LOT of data. But then so was Star Wars. I suppose with those really long copyrights it means THEY have to keep all that digital treasure safe.. Because they only sell the stripped out Home copies. The Hobbit was really shot for theaters 10years from now when 4k becomes commonplace. I used Star Wars because while Licas was counting his Billions, the actual MOVIE and resources on film spent 20 years rotting in a damp basement. Because every scrap of these movies has to be copyrighted for 95+ years they don't want any bits leaking out... But saving EVERYTHING it's really hard... Even if they make a billion dollars from it.
I still don't see what the "news" is. I mean Banks are so big they fill LTO 5 tapes with transaction data several times a DAY (not accounts, just the individual records of card swipes and such in real time) . I guess banks don't have to keep that 95 years though...
There's no misconduct here. Google owns Toutube and API level access (to skip ads, tracking, etc) is a chargeable feature to them.
Obviously Microsoft doesn't want to pay the fee, or include the other conditions Google requires... Apple had the same problem... But Apple has enough customers Google couldn't afford to lose them ALL.
Fundamentally, it's still GOOGLE'S sandbox and they don't have to share toys if they don't want to. They aren't locking users out of the web page... But the web page isn't the "nicest" way to access YoiTube on a phone.
That Google is going to take Microsoft "behind the woodshed" is a given. But that's entirely legal to "discourage" doing business with a customer that was abusive, power hungry and manipulative of courts and standards bodies. Microsoft is a convicted criminal.. You don't have to "be fair" with convicted criminals in the US legal system.
If your app has too many users, you have to PAY Google for API access. About the only thing "unlocked" are web browsers. That's why Roku doesn't ship a YouTube app for instance.
Apple's issue was that Apple WAS (and still is) PAYING royalties to Google and still being put in the "slow list" while Google let Android implement non-free APIs. So this comes down to is Microsoft PAYS for its phones to have access or not.
When did Microsoft ever "comply". They just kept paying fines and fighting fines till the people that needed the access gave up from boredom. There are STILL not proper converters for MS Office formats in programs like LibreOffice almost a decade after said fines were levied.
To be fair, Google never "opened" their API to Apple. Apple just stopped supporting Apple-made apps using Google's API. And forced GOOGLE to post the app themselves.
That's like Apple Dropping support for MS Office formats in Pages& Numbers... And getting Microsoft to put an Office version on iPhones.
Actually, Google has an API registered developers are supposed to use. If you don't use the API, but screen scraping, the periodically mess with the pages to break you.
Google did the same thing to Apple... And Apple PAYS Google big bucks for API access. But Google kept withholding features from Apple's developer API toolbox so Android would look better. Apple's fix was to stop making apps themselves using Google's APIs at all. That way Google can make the App. Google can access the OS like a normal app developer (no more favors) and Apple gets out of paying a six figure sum every month! Google owns those services... Let Google develop the apps!
So the question is: can Microsoft drop its attempts at accessing Google's sites and raise enough suffering that Google writes an App for Windows 8 Mobile? Ha, ha, ha....
How is that file system? He has plenty of time for patching bugs now. Provided he write all the patches out on notebook paper... Cause computers are a bit hard to come by in the slammer.
Actually, it's something the Slashdot system does VERY well. Come up with similar criteria as "Informative", "interesting", "troll" for reviewing books. Then add the meta mods to flag the ratings that are way off.
I think the problem is the age-old "disagree" mod... I see a lot of product reviews that are commentary, not review. Where someone just wants to make noise but they didn't read the manual, didn't call support, or didn't even BUY the product in question.
As somebody used to Slashdot, you learn there is a curve of people "always happy" and people "always trolls". Personally, I go staight to the one-star reviews and laugh my way up the list.
The vast majority of one-star reviews on most sites fall into three categories: a) "I don't want to be happy." If it was a present they spent no money for, and the clerk gave them a gift card, they complain about the line for returns... b) "I didn't pay attention to what I was buying." I dropped $500 on black friday on something i dudnt need or want and now nobody will tell me what it does... c) "the perpetually injured." No receipt, out of warranty, getting their money back isn't "good enough" because they had to carry the product uphill in the snow. Actual, bona fide product problems are about 1:100.
ID imagine books are the same way, with the addition of "fanbois" trying to shout each other down via book reviews to keep the "other team" from buying it. Unfortunately, you DO need a "disagree" tag for book reviews because they can be full of academic, justifiable holes. Perticularly with non-fiction (whatever that is anymore) there are books deliberately biased and the public should know. The problem is getting the BEST arguments to the top, and not the loudest.
Try walking into a bar and deliberately insulting somebody's religion... See how long before the owner throws YOU out for running your mouth.
There are lots of cases where management will shut you up because the topic of discussion causes fights. In the case of that video, it was created to be insulting... No point to leave the discussion where it can be used to start fights by either side. It's basic civility not censoring at that point.
Exactly, finally somebody gets it. When something posted on YouTube starts causing riots, they should thak that off. It was "free speech" only in the sense that I can yell insults at you from across the street.. When people start fights over the speech it's time to shit them up. Mostly, they blocked the video from countries where they knew it would just cause trouble... Where it was INTENDED to cause trouble.
YouTube was trying to be responsible.. ID guess they got a polite call from the US State department, kind of like when police expect a bar to have bouncers.. So the problem doesn't BECOME a LAW problem.
Because Samsung sells fab services. These processes cost billions to set up so you gotta have a full 24x7x365 dockett lined up before you turn the thing on.
Apple has been one of their largest customers for a decade. Except the master of Samsung "parts" can't keep the masters of Samsung "gadgets" from publically marketing against their top customer's products (the ones with 50% of the costs of parts coming BACK to Samsung's wallet)
This is only news because the line WOULD have been maxed out making stuff for Apple... But the bosses pissed Apple off, so they gotta sell the new process to somebody else... A LOT of somebodies....
This is only news because Samsung is gonna have to sell this to somebody OTHER THAN APPLE... It was DESIGNED just for Apple... So Apple is directly relevant.
Apple would have loved to pay Aamsung for this tech... In fact basically Apple IS paying, right now, for it as EVERY iPod, iPad, and iPhone processor sold so far is from Samsung... Samsung's management can't grasp not to fuck over its own biggest customer so Apple is moving elsewhere.. Like has been said, to get another supplier that won't screw them over by directly MARKETING products against them.
Companies like Nvidia, Apple, google that want custom chips built but don't want to own chip-making factories. 14nm is catching up with Intel. IBM and AMD are maybe one step behind at least for production. But they are a big shep ahead of TMSC who is the BIG player in the space... Namely, who Apple is moving to.
Of course it's a douvle whammy for Apple as its Apple's upfront money that allows Samsung manufacturing to get ahead... While the consumer sales division knifes Apple in the back... So Apple's gotta give this opportunity up.
There is no law that says citizens of the USA can't sell Internet filtering software to oppressive countries. China has "most favored nation" status, so other than military goods, they actually have higher status than Canada or Mexico (because we use that status to bully their lawmakers around on IP issues).
It's not like US companies are selling systems to catalog people for the gas chamber or anything. Hell, the "illegal" chemical weapons Saddam used on rioting Kurds were SOLD to him by the US military suppliers. Saddam was tried for war crimes... His suppliers weren't.
Internet filtering OTHER COUNTRIES free speech is just fine. If it works well the govt will buy some for schools!
That's why they force all the major companies to locate servers in China. I'd venture there is minimal cross-talk between Chinese sites like Yahoo and their American counterparts.
Yahoo certainly isn't internally redirecting Chinese to Yahoo.com even if they ask... Where in Europe, local country sites might all have the same "front door" server.
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And eventually one of these people gets to point guns (or other power) at the others to shut up or lie. Then you have nasty conspiracies.
Well manning should have sought protection under those laws. Except that when the Army stamps classified on something the judge who enforces the law can't legally see that a crime was uncovered.
The govt writes the laws, so gives itself loopholes when it doesn't like those laws.
The flat LEGAL answer is that Manning committed a crime (or Civil Disobedience...from a war zone) when he sent those first documents. He clearly did that all on his own without this Lamo guy involved.
Lamo kept hearing the guy brag and decided to turn him in. It's the Internet, there's no way to know if somebody was bragging... Until he saw that it wasn't bragging.
At that point it's your DUTY to call in the suspicion. The DoD gets zillions of "suspicious" reports a year.. If there wasn't anything to FIND Manning wouldn't be in military prison.
Kid's probably too old to work at Foxconn now. Heck to be 23 and not FORCED into a job in China means he's pretty well to do.
They could check for recording devices too. Shh... Don't tell the TSA.
The more I see this debte, the more I realize much of LOTR was Tolkien's personal "fan fiction". It was stuff he wrote down for fun.. Mostly to practice applying "archeology" skills for languages and myths. Languages and history is what he taught at university, tracing back origins of languages and myths to the events and people that it happened to. LOTR was some fun working "backwards" with the same principals to build his personal LARP.
I begging to agree with George R R Martin in that he's going to wrap up his "Song of Fire and Ice" (and cash in on whatever he's still got) then torch the rest of the notes so only the published books remain... No more going back and rewriting things long after he's dead.
I wonder why this is news... I guess it's a good time to invest in ENTERPRISE level storage!!
The Hobbit was shot in 5k resolution, and in "true 3D" with two cameras on every mount. And shot at 48fps (5k x 48 fps x 2 cameras) is MASSIVE film stock. Add multiple shoots for setup, testing lights, and then the actual acting. Not to mention all the digital elements that have to be stocked at high resolution as well.
Yup that's a LOT of data. But then so was Star Wars. I suppose with those really long copyrights it means THEY have to keep all that digital treasure safe.. Because they only sell the stripped out Home copies. The Hobbit was really shot for theaters 10years from now when 4k becomes commonplace. I used Star Wars because while Licas was counting his Billions, the actual MOVIE and resources on film spent 20 years rotting in a damp basement. Because every scrap of these movies has to be copyrighted for 95+ years they don't want any bits leaking out... But saving EVERYTHING it's really hard... Even if they make a billion dollars from it.
I still don't see what the "news" is. I mean Banks are so big they fill LTO 5 tapes with transaction data several times a DAY (not accounts, just the individual records of card swipes and such in real time) . I guess banks don't have to keep that 95 years though...
There's no misconduct here. Google owns Toutube and API level access (to skip ads, tracking, etc) is a chargeable feature to them.
Obviously Microsoft doesn't want to pay the fee, or include the other conditions Google requires... Apple had the same problem... But Apple has enough customers Google couldn't afford to lose them ALL.
Fundamentally, it's still GOOGLE'S sandbox and they don't have to share toys if they don't want to. They aren't locking users out of the web page... But the web page isn't the "nicest" way to access YoiTube on a phone.
That Google is going to take Microsoft "behind the woodshed" is a given. But that's entirely legal to "discourage" doing business with a customer that was abusive, power hungry and manipulative of courts and standards bodies. Microsoft is a convicted criminal.. You don't have to "be fair" with convicted criminals in the US legal system.
So in 2018 the court will slap Google on the hand... Better start crying now. That's how long it took to get Microsoft's hand slapped...
If your app has too many users, you have to PAY Google for API access. About the only thing "unlocked" are web browsers. That's why Roku doesn't ship a YouTube app for instance.
Apple's issue was that Apple WAS (and still is) PAYING royalties to Google and still being put in the "slow list" while Google let Android implement non-free APIs. So this comes down to is Microsoft PAYS for its phones to have access or not.
When did Microsoft ever "comply". They just kept paying fines and fighting fines till the people that needed the access gave up from boredom. There are STILL not proper converters for MS Office formats in programs like LibreOffice almost a decade after said fines were levied.
To be fair, Google never "opened" their API to Apple. Apple just stopped supporting Apple-made apps using Google's API. And forced GOOGLE to post the app themselves.
That's like Apple Dropping support for MS Office formats in Pages& Numbers... And getting Microsoft to put an Office version on iPhones.
Actually, Google has an API registered developers are supposed to use. If you don't use the API, but screen scraping, the periodically mess with the pages to break you.
Google did the same thing to Apple... And Apple PAYS Google big bucks for API access. But Google kept withholding features from Apple's developer API toolbox so Android would look better. Apple's fix was to stop making apps themselves using Google's APIs at all. That way Google can make the App. Google can access the OS like a normal app developer (no more favors) and Apple gets out of paying a six figure sum every month! Google owns those services... Let Google develop the apps!
So the question is: can Microsoft drop its attempts at accessing Google's sites and raise enough suffering that Google writes an App for Windows 8 Mobile? Ha, ha, ha....
We need Leverage... But they need that show's run.
How is that file system? He has plenty of time for patching bugs now. Provided he write all the patches out on notebook paper... Cause computers are a bit hard to come by in the slammer.
Actually, it's something the Slashdot system does VERY well. Come up with similar criteria as "Informative", "interesting", "troll" for reviewing books. Then add the meta mods to flag the ratings that are way off.
I think the problem is the age-old "disagree" mod... I see a lot of product reviews that are commentary, not review. Where someone just wants to make noise but they didn't read the manual, didn't call support, or didn't even BUY the product in question.
As somebody used to Slashdot, you learn there is a curve of people "always happy" and people "always trolls". Personally, I go staight to the one-star reviews and laugh my way up the list.
The vast majority of one-star reviews on most sites fall into three categories: a) "I don't want to be happy." If it was a present they spent no money for, and the clerk gave them a gift card, they complain about the line for returns... b) "I didn't pay attention to what I was buying." I dropped $500 on black friday on something i dudnt need or want and now nobody will tell me what it does... c) "the perpetually injured." No receipt, out of warranty, getting their money back isn't "good enough" because they had to carry the product uphill in the snow. Actual, bona fide product problems are about 1:100.
ID imagine books are the same way, with the addition of "fanbois" trying to shout each other down via book reviews to keep the "other team" from buying it. Unfortunately, you DO need a "disagree" tag for book reviews because they can be full of academic, justifiable holes. Perticularly with non-fiction (whatever that is anymore) there are books deliberately biased and the public should know. The problem is getting the BEST arguments to the top, and not the loudest.
Try walking into a bar and deliberately insulting somebody's religion... See how long before the owner throws YOU out for running your mouth.
There are lots of cases where management will shut you up because the topic of discussion causes fights. In the case of that video, it was created to be insulting... No point to leave the discussion where it can be used to start fights by either side. It's basic civility not censoring at that point.
Exactly, finally somebody gets it. When something posted on YouTube starts causing riots, they should thak that off. It was "free speech" only in the sense that I can yell insults at you from across the street.. When people start fights over the speech it's time to shit them up. Mostly, they blocked the video from countries where they knew it would just cause trouble... Where it was INTENDED to cause trouble.
YouTube was trying to be responsible.. ID guess they got a polite call from the US State department, kind of like when police expect a bar to have bouncers.. So the problem doesn't BECOME a LAW problem.
Because Samsung sells fab services. These processes cost billions to set up so you gotta have a full 24x7x365 dockett lined up before you turn the thing on.
Apple has been one of their largest customers for a decade. Except the master of Samsung "parts" can't keep the masters of Samsung "gadgets" from publically marketing against their top customer's products (the ones with 50% of the costs of parts coming BACK to Samsung's wallet)
This is only news because the line WOULD have been maxed out making stuff for Apple... But the bosses pissed Apple off, so they gotta sell the new process to somebody else... A LOT of somebodies....
This is only news because Samsung is gonna have to sell this to somebody OTHER THAN APPLE... It was DESIGNED just for Apple... So Apple is directly relevant.
Apple would have loved to pay Aamsung for this tech... In fact basically Apple IS paying, right now, for it as EVERY iPod, iPad, and iPhone processor sold so far is from Samsung... Samsung's management can't grasp not to fuck over its own biggest customer so Apple is moving elsewhere.. Like has been said, to get another supplier that won't screw them over by directly MARKETING products against them.
Companies like Nvidia, Apple, google that want custom chips built but don't want to own chip-making factories. 14nm is catching up with Intel. IBM and AMD are maybe one step behind at least for production. But they are a big shep ahead of TMSC who is the BIG player in the space... Namely, who Apple is moving to.
Of course it's a douvle whammy for Apple as its Apple's upfront money that allows Samsung manufacturing to get ahead... While the consumer sales division knifes Apple in the back... So Apple's gotta give this opportunity up.
There is no law that says citizens of the USA can't sell Internet filtering software to oppressive countries. China has "most favored nation" status, so other than military goods, they actually have higher status than Canada or Mexico (because we use that status to bully their lawmakers around on IP issues).
It's not like US companies are selling systems to catalog people for the gas chamber or anything. Hell, the "illegal" chemical weapons Saddam used on rioting Kurds were SOLD to him by the US military suppliers. Saddam was tried for war crimes... His suppliers weren't.
Internet filtering OTHER COUNTRIES free speech is just fine. If it works well the govt will buy some for schools!
That's why they force all the major companies to locate servers in China. I'd venture there is minimal cross-talk between Chinese sites like Yahoo and their American counterparts.
Yahoo certainly isn't internally redirecting Chinese to Yahoo.com even if they ask... Where in Europe, local country sites might all have the same "front door" server.
There's no PROFITS in peace, so don't fund teaching.
Whoa there.. Your implying the Chinese are buying the tech from Western Capitalists? But they LOVE FREEDOM.
Of course if said companies don't work with China, China will just keep the software, lock their sales guys in jail, and still not pay anything.
We need to get "Voice of America" to help out with Chinese censors!!!